In the light of the massacre at Newtown, Conn., and the murder of two firemen in Webster, N.Y., national attention has again turned to how we can reduce gun violence in America. The responses have been predictable.
Once again, advocates for increased gun controls have raised their voices and argued that bans on semi-automatic weapons and large ammunition clips are the only way to reduce the number of tragic killings in this country. Those who oppose gun controls, particularly the NRA, have argued, as they have in the past, that we need more guns, not fewer, and that the best way to reduce school shootings is to have armed guards in every school and even consider arming teachers.
Both sides seem to agree on one thing: Those who carry out these horrific attacks on innocent school children and first responders are obviously mentally ill. Both sides agree that we must, as a nation, do more to identify, treat and, if necessary, isolate those individuals who wish to carry out such horrors.
While virtually everyone agrees that the identification and treatment of individuals whose mental illness may drive them to violence such as occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School is essential, politics and budgetary constraints have made this goal extremely difficult to achieve. Since the Reagan administration threw its support behind the process of “deinstitutionalization” of the mentally ill, there has been a shift from keeping individuals institutionalized to having them cared for by community mental health agencies. Unfortunately, the very agencies that now bear the burden of treating the mentally ill have been decimated by budgetary cuts. Many individuals now slip through the safety nets these agencies should provide because they no longer have the funds they need.
Early identification of troubled individuals also has become far more difficult. Fifty years ago, such individuals often would have been identified by their schools and sent for treatment. Today, teachers and school administrators are less likely to do this both from fear of lawsuits and because their own budgets have been slashed so severely that the trained personnel needed to evaluate these students are no longer on staff. Family members and friends also are less likely to identify these troubled individuals both from fear of scandal and legal liability.
While there can be no doubt that our schools and social services agencies need more funding if they are to identify and treat potentially dangerous individuals, I doubt that this will be enough, given our current legal system and the current policy of deinstitutionalization. How then can we identify and help these men and women who may pose significant danger to the public? My answer is simple: Reinstitute the draft and require that all young people, both men and women, serve two years.
I realize that this proposal will upset many people. The draft has been a controversial institution since it began during the Civil War. But, to my mind, there would be multiple benefits gained from its reinstitution. A universal draft would help us to reinforce in our young people all of the values that we as a nation prize: honor, valor, patriotism and a sense of each individual’s obligation to serve the nation and the public good.
More to the point of this article, the draft would provide a screening opportunity by which troubled young men and women could be identified and, if necessary, sent for treatment. For those who were fit to serve, it would also teach draftees about weapons and, hopefully, educate them about how to use guns properly and to understand the dangers of random gun violence. In an era when schools and families can no longer adequately socialize our youth to be good citizens, the military could serve that purpose. Indeed, the military is expert in training young people and teaching them discipline and self-control.
While reinstituting the draft will not be a complete solution to our current problems with gun violence, it would, in my opinion, be a major step on the road to a solution.
Comments
Gandalf 2 years, 1 month ago
Leaving aside the fact that I now think you are nuts mike. If the governments are now underfunding the current programs, where in the world do you think they would get the money to hire every teenager in america for two years?
Abdu Omar 2 years, 1 month ago
Are you kidding Gandalf? The Department of Defense has the largest budget of any department and they spend more foolishly. This would be a way to redirect that poorly spend money on something worthwhile.
Lawrence Morgan 2 years, 1 month ago
Mike, I'm a veteran. You have raised many good points. How many people who make comments here have experienced 2, 4 or more years with the Army?
When I came back from the Army, all my friends had gone to graduate school or already had good jobs. It was very difficult for me.
I do not think, however, that mental illness is necessarily the chief cause of using a gun. A lot of what takes place today is simply the lack of opportunity to make friends with others and see their points of view. Although I didn't like the Army, this is one thing that really helped me. Instead of seeing myself as "KU" and "someone special," I benefited from these different points of view, and exchanges of opinions - and this made a great deal of difference for me later in life. (See my blogs, for example.)
I found the Army far broader in terms of the people I met, who were from all over the country and from many different backgrounds, than the people I had previously met at KU. It was as though the world was expanding, greatly; and that did not take place during my time at KU. I went to Germany, eventually all over Western and Eastern Europe, Turkey and Morocco, and everywhere, I met new people that changed my perspective forever.
I learned tolerance and really pursuing topics in detail, and I met my first friends from so many different countries- from Tunisia, to Serbia and Morocco. I learned that I could tolerate and learn from differences. There was no need to use a gun.
Today, people at KU for the most part don't learn these things, and we are much the worse for it.
And it's multiplied by the fact that there is almost no room or accommodation at KU for people of all ages, so that the range of possible friends is very small.
grammaddy 2 years, 1 month ago
Pffft. Timothy McVeigh and his sidekick were military and so was the shooter at Fort Hood. I would think the military might be more responsible for creating some of this mess than uncovering it..
Liberty275 2 years, 1 month ago
While the professor is correct that a draft will give the government a chance to take a peek at a person's mental health and military service generally builds character, conscription is too similar to slavery to be reinstated.
A draft is the last thing you do to defend American soil from foreign invaders. It isn't something we should ever consider to cure domestic issues.
That solution is a thousand times worse than the problem.
"Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges.” (The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.) — Tacitus, Annals"
Thank you for posting that.
juma 2 years, 1 month ago
Please tell me this fool does not have tenure! The recent few years have seen how many mass killings by military personnel? Ft Hood, the sniper in the DC area, the men in uniform going on shooting spree. This article has to be a joke.
deec 2 years, 1 month ago
Don't all comments by a disappeareded poster usually get pulled when a user is banned? The referenced poster's comments are still available on
Why do people beyond draft age always seem to think involuntary servitude in the military is a good idea for other people's children? Did the writer encourage any children he has to do their stint?
Ron Holzwarth 2 years, 1 month ago
They're still here too: http://www2.ljworld.com/users/Liberty_One/comments/
"Did the writer encourage any children he has to do their stint?"
She's asleep.
FlintlockRifle 2 years, 1 month ago
Mike has his opinions just like most of us who respond to the writtings here in the LJW. I do agaree with him on the draft part. most ,not all people are better people after they learn patience , selt esteem and respect for there fellow country man. Likw wise I didn't like the letter I received in the mail from Uncle wanting my services, but that was probably the best three years of my like, well maybe not the best but memorable three years
50YearResident 2 years, 1 month ago
When I was in the military if they found someone with mental problems or with other problems that made them unfit for military service they simply discharged them. This included, low IQ, overweight, mental issues and physical issues. There was no attempt to correct the deficiency, they got rid of the non-conformer. What makes Mike think they will now fix the problems that they find, instead of just eliminating them by discharging the weak and unfit? It will not work.
voevoda 2 years, 1 month ago
Actually, 50YearResident, you are right about this. If the military is to serve the purpose Prof. Hoeflich proposes, it would need to change a lot. Instead of focusing on the defense of our country, the military would need to focus on education and training of millions of people in their late teens, regardless of their aptitude or willingness to cooperate. The costs would be extremely high--imagine what the defense budget would look like by adding millions of employees to the payroll, buying equipment for them, building housing for them, hiring officers to train them and psychologists to screen them.
Although I don't think that Prof. Hoeflich's proposal is viable, I do thank him for presenting it. Those posters here who have called him names are wrong to do so. They certainly haven't presented any better ideas.
Crazy_Larry 2 years, 1 month ago
What Is the Draft and How Does It Work? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=875907#.UORadqwqh8E
The draft is a lottery system whereby all eligible draftees are assigned a number and numbers are randomly selected. This system would not have everyone enlisted in the military. I think the author is wanting a system of conscription (compulsory service) for every able bodied person in the country such as in Greece, Austria, Finland, Egypt, Germany (until last year), Israel, Switzerland, etc. No one will slip through the cracks that way.
50YearResident 2 years, 1 month ago
Mandatory Health Care, AKA, Obama Care...........
voevoda 2 years, 1 month ago
ObamaCare is not mandatory, 50YearResident. You remain free to refuse health care, or to choose alternative treatment.
tomatogrower 2 years, 1 month ago
I used to be against the draft, but now I see how it has turned out. There are a lot of "me, me, me" people out there who are all for war, but don't ask them to pay for it. They are all for putting armed guards in schools, but don't ask them to pay for it. I think it would be a great idea. And no deferments. If you are unable to handle the physical part of the military there are plenty of other things that need to be done. Get rid of the Haliburton. Those kids that aren't good for the physical side could cook, clean, do clerical work. Those who don't shoot well, even though all should be taught how to shoot and gun safety, should work cleaning parks, helping burn off or clear out areas in forests, so they don't burn, providing safety in schools, helping with natural disasters, running after school programs for kids, etc. And especially no deferments or special privileges to the kids of the rich and influential. That's what went wrong before.
Yes, there have recently been some nutcases who were in the military, like Tim McVeigh, who have done some horrible things, but in an all voluntary military you often end up with a "club". That means there are pockets of people who think alike, including anti-Americans, who hang out together. In a draft, and not just military, you will end up with a lot of different view points, and people like McVeigh will either be identified as dangerous or not pass a series of psych evaluations.
It's also time for those who supported getting rid of institutionalizing people to step up to the plate and explain why they now don't want to support the community care of these people. It was the libertarians who wanted to shut down these institutions. They claimed that the rights of the mentally ill were being violated, that they should be free to live on the streets if they wanted too. But conservatives and libertarians also don't want to pay for the community care either. I guess we are all paying now, with many dead children, and a possibility of having armed guards wherever we go. Libertarian, or police state?
bd 2 years, 1 month ago
Lets see?? welfare, military & lawrence new homeless shelter, what do they have in common?? Free money, food or shelter, or all three! Ain't life grand!
tomatogrower 2 years, 1 month ago
bd is a typical faux patriot tea party jerk.
Uncle_Jerry 2 years, 1 month ago
The problem with a "renewed" draft is that our Government and Military have a habit of getting our military men and women killed for no good reason. We haven't won a war since WWII and I don't have faith that the current or future administrations will offer up the lives of our sons and daughters w/o a proper declaration of war.
Currently we have witnessed Obama commit the US to military action in the event that Iran possesses a nuclear weapon. How can one go about making the "red line" commitment without asking congress first?
Ron Holzwarth 2 years, 1 month ago
"How can one go about making the "red line" commitment without asking congress first?"
It's easy. Ignore the Constitution, it's done all the time these days.
Uncle_Jerry 2 years, 1 month ago
From the article http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawakening-liberty/2012/aug/14/why-does-ron-paul-insist-declaration-war/
"The U.S. Constitution delegates the declaration of war power to the Congress, but they have not exercised this power since WWII.
The declaration of war power is not the power to start a war. It is the power to declare that a state of war already exists. This can only be true if the nation in question has committed overt acts of war against the United States.
The framers of the Constitution intended that the president would never initiate planned military action until this process took place. Yes, the president could deploy the military if the British or Spanish were discovered marching through Maryland, a very real possibility at the time.
Otherwise, however, acts of war had to be committed against the United States before the president directed a military response. Only then could a state of war exist."
This doesn't sit well with the preemptive war folk but the congress nor the president are authorized to start a preemptive war.
Uncle_Jerry 2 years, 1 month ago
Gandalf,
You're correct.
Maybe I should rephrase. The constitution, as it was intended by the authors, should not authorize the President to go to war without a declaration. The war powers act and joint resolution is a violation of that requirement despite congressional consent.
Just my opinion, but you are correct as you have proven above.
Abdu Omar 2 years, 1 month ago
He doesn't need Congressional approval, he has it automatically. Iran is not a threat to the USA it is a threat, they think, to Israel. So we will go to war for Israel, giving them our blood for their country. The israelis have congress around their finger, so said Bibi, so what does the president need with congress? For the Israelis he can do anything, even go to war in Iraq, that, too, was not a threat to the USA.
Uncle_Jerry 2 years, 1 month ago
"The U.S. Constitution delegates the declaration of war power to the Congress, but they have not exercised this power since WWII."
From the article I linked above. It's a great article and shows precedent in how we have gone to war properly in the past.
Wounded...you're right about Israel. Now they're screwed because they don't have Mubarak to protect them. I wonder if the US will continue to give Egypt billions...maybe we could use that money for Hurricane Sandy relief.
Crazy_Larry 2 years, 1 month ago
I like the professor's idea. If everyone had skin in the game they might think twice before lying the country into an endless war. Joining the military turned my life around 540-degrees. I learned a few skills, saw some of the world, and got money for college too. After 5-and-a-half years active duty, I was ready to go on to college and learn something. No more making money by brawn... Licensed professional now... Disabled veteran (I love my government health care)... Spank you very much, Uncle Sam!
Crazy_Larry 2 years, 1 month ago
And a minority of people benefit by taking the country to war. . .Mandatory service for the children of the military-industrial-congressional complex too. The oligarchs and politicians should be sending their children to die as well.
AlexFenton2 2 years, 1 month ago
Sadly, even a short amount of time spent researching the recent suicide rates for those in the military, including those who have served overseas and those who have not, will show that a draft would probably be a poor form of mental health screening, unless something changes significantly. We already fail to provide the necessary help for those who make important sacrifices on our behalf. Making that sacrifice mandatory would not be the panacea you imagine.
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