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Kobach discusses early voter fraud in state at ‘Bleeding Kansas’ lecture series

February 10, 2013

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Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach spoke about early cases of voter fraud in Kansas at Sunday's installment of the Bleeding Kansas Lecture Series in Lecompton.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach spoke about early cases of voter fraud in Kansas at Sunday's installment of the Bleeding Kansas Lecture Series in Lecompton.

The state's highest election official treated a packed room Sunday at Constitution Hall in Lecompton to some Kansas election history.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach presented "Kansas' First Territorial Elections & the Lecompton Constitution" as part of the 2013 Bleeding Kansas lecture series.

Kobach focused on some of the flagrant instances of voter fraud as Kansas was forming its identity and constitution in the 1850s.

He referenced the March 30, 1855, territorial election, which Kobach called the "most infamous" example of voter fraud in history.

Invading Missourians stormed the state, taking the Lawrence polling station by force. And in a state with only 2,900 eligible voters, the final voting tally surpassed 6,300.

"Now that is voter fraud," Kobach said.

Such instances of voter fraud continued throughout the next few years in the state, hijacking Kansas’ attempt to legitimize the electoral process, Kobach said.

The fight over the Lecompton Constitution — which was eventually rejected — also played a prominent role at the time. Created in 1857, the constitution protected slave-owner rights and intensified the abolitionist fight in Kansas.

"It was the national issue of the day," Kobach said. "It's a fascinating period of history."

The Bleeding Kansas lecture series continues the next two Sundays at Constitution Hall. The lectures begin at 2 p.m.:

• Feb. 17: "The Big Divide: A Complete Guide to Historic and Civil War Sites in the Missouri-Kansas Border Region," by Diane Eickhoff and Aaron Barnhart.
• Feb. 24: "Bleeding Kansas: The Real Start of the Civil War," by Robert C. Jones.

Comments

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 5 months ago

And it was easily detected, just as it would be now, if it were happening to any significant degree. But pretending that it does happen is all the pretext for voter suppression that Kobach needs.

dozer 2 years, 5 months ago

Someone should tell Kobach the statute of limitations has run on the voter fraud of March 30, 1855.

By the way, wasn't his big platform for getting elected the "rampant" voter fraud in Kansas? Has he prosecuted a single case to date? That would be an interesting follow up LJ World.

UneasyRider 2 years, 5 months ago

How many cases of fraud have been alleged as well as reported and how many has he prosecuted? By the way, that fraud occurred 157 years ago, how many cases have happened and how many prosecuted since?

mom_of_three 2 years, 5 months ago

The voter fraud of march, 1855, was for the entire state, not just for lawrence. The instances of threats and violence and stuffing the ballot box with votes from non-citizens was rampant everywhere in the territory. Men were threatened with their lives. While it was voter fraud, it encompassed so much more, because of the slavery issue.

Richard Crank 2 years, 5 months ago

This made me laugh. Kobach himself, though, is no laughing matter ... even if he is a joke.

Trumbull 2 years, 5 months ago

The only fraud going on right now comes in the form of supression.

Mike Edson 2 years, 5 months ago

I just can't imagine that Kansas has any voter fraud at all.

jhawkinsf 2 years, 5 months ago

If the fraud of 1855 really happened, yet did not result in any prosecutions and/or convictions, wouldn't it be an illogical argument to suggest that just because there are currently no prosecutions and/or convictions means there is no fraud?

Not that I think there is much fraud, somewhere above zero but less than a little.

verity 2 years, 5 months ago

Considering the situation then and the situation now, the answer to your question is no.

Do you really think Kobach wouldn't prosecute if he had even a whisper of something?

jhawkinsf 2 years, 5 months ago

Consider the situation now, then. If Kobach did find a case suitable for prosecution, try to imagine just how politically charged it would be to bring that case to trial. Then imagine if just one juror dislikes Kobach because of his politics and chose to send him a message by voting not guilty. Kobach's political career would be on the ropes. It actually serves his political purposes more to continue just as he is doing, playing on the fears that voter fraud is widespread, even though he probably realizes it is pretty small.

In my opinion, only true zealots who have long left their common sense aside believe that voter fraud is either widespread or completely non-existent.

verity 2 years, 5 months ago

Of course neither of us know the answer to this, but for the sake of argument---which I know you love to do :-)---I maintain that from looking at Kobach's history of being involved in lawsuits, win or lose he still thinks he wins because of the strife, publicity and the thrill it gives his supporters.

I'm going to step out even further and say that I think he's a sociopath.

I've no doubt that there is some voter fraud and of course it could never be proved that there isn't, but I don't think he found any.

jhawkinsf 2 years, 5 months ago

Ah, I do love to argue. But I can't find much to argue with you on this one.

verity 2 years, 5 months ago

I will mark this day on my calendar!

Biscayne 2 years, 5 months ago

Keep up the good work Kris, your doing a GREAT job!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 5 months ago

Yes, he is, as long as you consider his job to be the suppression of broad democratic participation by all eligible members of society.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 5 months ago

How much of the public trough has Kobach and his witchhunt squandered per fraudulent vote discovered of late? Was this money well spent? I know, it's cheap at any price to some to disenfranchise many in the name of preventing a minute degree of fraud.

jayhawklawrence 2 years, 5 months ago

Kobach = Voter fraud.

Kobach's mission is to rig elections.

blindrabbit 2 years, 5 months ago

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Phoghorn 2 years, 5 months ago

Can we actually start discussing the article now...?

akuna 2 years, 5 months ago

Is it just me or is that man standing behind Kobach looking at him skeptically? Even a cardboard cutout can see Kobach is talking out of his corrugations.

verity 2 years, 5 months ago

This new incarnation of the LJW seems to have changed the comment indentations, making them confusing.

lunacydetector 2 years, 5 months ago

vacant lot, vacant house, but the election rolls still show someone living there...now, guess which party this so-called 'resident' belongs? you guessed it, the democratic party. glad there is a required photo i.d.

overthemoon 2 years, 5 months ago

Packed house...how many people fit into that building? About 25?

jesse499 2 years, 5 months ago

The fraud now is in DC and you elected him!!!

Richard Heckler 2 years, 5 months ago

Koabch needs to resign from office and seek therapy at his own expense.

Richard Heckler 2 years, 5 months ago

Paperless electronic voting on touch screen machines does not provide confidence to ensure votes are counted the way voters intend. Here is the true candidate for voting fraud.

Because there is no voter verified paper record, it is not possible to audit the electronic vote for accuracy, nor is it possible to conduct an independent recount. This is a grotesquely designed, over-complicated, expensive system loaded with the potential for mistakes and undetected fraud.

We should NEVER trust the future of our nation to such technology that poses substantial potential opportunity for voting fraud.

Computers are inherently subject to programming error, equipment malfunction, and malicious tampering. If we are to ensure fair and honest elections, and retain voter confidence in our democratic process, we need to ensure that there are no such questions.

Therefore, it is crucial that any computerized voting system provide a voter-verifiable paper audit trail and that random audits of electronic votes be conducted EACH election day.

Paperless electronic voting machines make it impossible to safeguard the integrity of our vote thereby threatening the very foundation of our democracy. Certainly no new ID can protect voters from electronic voter fraud or any type of voter fraud.

Not only that corporate owners which provide voting machines are known large contributors to the right wing agenda party. The fraud is this party posing as republicans.

verity 2 years, 5 months ago

Exactly. Can anyone deny that this is where our biggest problem lies?

I remember the excuse being used that it was too hard or impossible to make a machine that put out a paper copy. Uh-huh.

I'd be interested to see anybody try to refute what merrill said.

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