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Kansas Legislature

Fighting continues over anti-union bill

February 1, 2013

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— Democrats on Friday offered to fix a Republican-stated problem with the Kansas National Education Association, but a key Republican dismissed the proposal.

The dispute is over a bill that would weaken the KNEA’s effort to participate in politics.

House Bill 2023 would prohibit the ability of teachers and public union members to have automatic payroll deduction that would go to a political action committee.

The bill was approved in the House on Thursday with only Republican support and now goes to the Senate for consideration.

Several Republicans stated they opposed the KNEA payroll deduction because tax dollars were used to pay for the administration of the transaction.

“I believe that the government should not be allowed to support or facilitate in any form or manner political activities of any public entity,” said Rep. Shanti Gandhi, R-Topeka.

Senate Democratic Leader Anthony Hensley of Topeka said to address that issue, he would introduce an amendment to the bill when it is considered by the Senate that would require the KNEA to pay the local school boards for the transactions. His proposal would then do away with the rest of the bill. He said the transaction costs are minimal, about 6 cents per deduction.

“I think it is important that that argument be addressed,” Hensley said. “Whether that is enough to call off the dogs, I don’t know.”

But Rep. Marvin Kleeb, R-Overland Park, who carried the bill in the House, said the bill “really wasn’t about governmental costs.” He said it was about protecting individuals from pressure to make the political donations.

Opponents of the bill said no one was being coerced to pay into a PAC.

Hensley said the bill is part of a “national playbook” among states with Republican governors to silence union members in the political sphere.

“It’s pretty shameful,” he said.

Comments

wastewatcher 1 year, 2 months ago

Why does this paper and this writer keep giving so much ink to the ULTRA LIBERAL HENSLEY and his LAPDOG DAVIS when they are not relevant in the Legislature. Kansans have rejected their EXTREME LIBERAL VIEWS time and time again. Nobody really cares what they think except their VERY LIBERAL FRIENDS and there aren't very many of them.

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sciencegeek 1 year, 2 months ago

This bill is pro-teacher likes pigs are pro-bacon. The cabal running the state is against public education. what they want is private schools, which of course they and their rich cronies can afford. As to the rest---serfs don't need an education. the less they know the better.

But note: this also applies to police and firemen. Anyone who works for the government is "eating at the public trough", remember. Except them, of course. And those who work for any public entity must give up their rights, because they're paid with tax money. They need to accept their status as second-class citizens and get it over with.

God help us--the Real God, not the one Brownback uses as a political prop.

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FiremanChris 1 year, 2 months ago

"And thus I clothe my naked villany With odd old ends stol'n out of holy writ, And seem a saint, when most I play the devil." - King Richard III

I guess I'll be writing bigger checks to my IAFF local, with the sole intent that anything above dues goes straight into advocacy against these Koch-puppets. Our collective memory is so short when even middle managers and white collar workers forget what it's like to not have weekends or health insurance.

For a party that so readily touts governmental non-intervention and personal rights and responsibilities, this is absurd. If I don't like the political stances of my union or how my dues are being spent, I can freely choose to leave.

This "small government" sure spends a surprising amount of time in people's uterus', bedrooms, and personal checkbooks.

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autie 1 year, 2 months ago

The list of groups that is beinging alienated by the current regime would seem to be growing. Browsack better hope his looney tune ideas pan out before November of '14.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 2 months ago

Think long term impact.

It isn't only union wages that go down. It's most wages. If all unions get busted and those millions upon millions are receiving less that translates into most all other workers making less money because workers across America will quit spending money.

When workers quit spending money what happens for the long term?

People go out of business thus more job losses.

Carpenters,plumbers and electricians go out of business because workers cannot afford more houses.

Property values sink because there is no money and foreclosures continue to rise.

New auto sales will slump AGAIN.

MORE retirement plans will go up in smoke because Wall Street will take a dive because spending which drives investors is no where to be found.

Millions more will not be able to pay for medical insurance.

Sales taxes will increase because all other tax sources have gone up in smoke.

Infrastructure will go longer without maintenance and/or replacement.

This is but a short list.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 2 months ago

Privatization is money laundering

Privatization funnels YOUR TAX DOLLARS and MINE into the corporate bank accounts. THIS IS A CORPORATE ENTITLEMENT. Billions and trillions of tax dollars caught the eye of corporate America = easy and guaranteed profits guided by fascist politicians.

Now the corporation becomes evermore dependent on government in addition to skimming tax dollars off the top which get laundered into :

CEO pay packages

Golden Parachutes

Shareholders

GOP special interest campaign cookie jars

Yes our tax dollars are now getting spent recklessly instead of efficiently.

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ATR920 1 year, 2 months ago

I have a question, I have noticed that many school districts are members in their local chamber of commerce, is that legal? Can a school district be apart of such a politically active group? A group that hates their own employees?

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commuter 1 year, 2 months ago

Does any know if Koch Industries allows a payroll deduction to their PAC? If the Unions are allowed to do it, why should ALL other PACs be allowed. Isn't it fair????

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tomatogrower 1 year, 2 months ago

This could backfire on them. I just talked to a teacher I used to work with when I was a para. She said she has been paying $20/year to KNEA's PAC, which is the basic rate, but now she is going to start giving $20/month. It would be a riot if all KNEA members started donating even more. Then they could fight against the two constitutional amendments which will absolve the legislature of any responsibility for funding schools. I'm not a member of KNEA, but I think I'll send them some money. Anybody with me?

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ATR920 1 year, 2 months ago

I too have never been pressured to join KNEA or any pressure to sign up for payroll deduction. But like many teachers on here I have been pressured numerous times by the United Way and even the YMCA!

If this is really a bill looking out for teachers being bullied then they better go attack those thugs at the United Way and YMCA?!

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JayhawkFan1985 1 year, 2 months ago

KNEA. Should just start offering EFT to their members. That's how I pay a lot of bills. Having said that, the wacky GOP in this state needs to go. They will destroy our beloved state.

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Katara 1 year, 2 months ago

"Several Republicans stated they opposed the KNEA payroll deduction because tax dollars were used to pay for the administration of the transaction."

I'm sure the several Republicans who are opposing have the exact figures of how much of our tax dollars being used to pay for the administration of the transaction, right?

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1 year, 2 months ago

They want the teachers to have to write a check because they are sure this will downsize enrollment. They believe that making a teacher write a check to the union instead of getting an automatic deduction will deter them from joining or remaining a member. That is the bare bones. That is why they are doing this to public school teachers. They are trying to break us down so we cannot have a voice.
I would also like to add, as a public school teacher, that I have never been harassed or persuaded or pressured into joining my union. I have, however, been pressured on many levels and more than once to have an automatic deduction from my check for United Way. I am for United Way and KNEA, but putting pressure on us has never come from KNEA.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 2 months ago

Charter Schools Are No Better than Public Schools, and Don't Expect Them to Change

by Jim Horn

"While the report recognized a robust national demand for more charter schools from parents and local communities, it found that 17 percent of charter schools reported academic gains that were significantly better than traditional public schools, while 37 percent of charter schools showed gains that were worse than their traditional public school counterparts, with 46 percent of charter schools demonstrating no significant difference."

For the rest of the article.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/01/31-9

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Nubrick 1 year, 2 months ago

Study: School Choice Threatens School Employee Unions’ Financial and Political Clout http://www.mackinac.org/1945

School Choice: Making the Grade

http://townhall.com/columnists/edfeulner/2013/02/01/school-choice-making-the-grade-n1502545

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Bob Forer 1 year, 2 months ago

These republican politicians are outright scoundrels. First, they claim that the reason for the law was because taxpayers shouldn't fund the administrative costs. Then, when an amendment is offered providing payment of the costs by the union, they change their story, and claim the purpose behind the bill is to prevent undue pressure and harassment, although they offered nary a single teacher to give testimony that they had been harassed.

Intellectual dishonesty and democracy are not compatible. We're losing our democracy in Kansas, folks.

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Keith Richards 1 year, 2 months ago

What is the fear of having employees write a check to the union instead of having an automatic deduction?

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kseagle 1 year, 2 months ago

All unions should be completely outlawed! There are laws on the books to deal with everything the unions were originally striving to achieve. Therefore, unions have out lived their purpose and should be abolished and removed from our society. They serve no useful purpose.

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kanzen2424 1 year, 2 months ago

Rep. Marvin Kleeb, R-Overland Park, "said it was about protecting individuals from pressure to make the political donations". I find this totally shocking. I've been a public school teacher for 25 years and have never been pressured or even asked to make any political donations whatsoever. Nor have I ever been pressured to join the union. In spite of the fact that all teachers gain great benefit from union efforts, some join, some don't. Rep. Kleeb has completely made this issue up.

This is not about protecting teachers. It's about disabling us as a political force. That way, Republicans can outlaw unions, cut our pay and benefits, cut state funding for education in spite of what the courts say, thereby completely gutting the high quality of eduction in Kansas in order to provide tax cuts for the rich. Some might call this short sighted.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 2 months ago

Brownback and ALEC have no use for republicans or democrats..... only their agenda.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 2 months ago

"But Rep. Marvin Kleeb, R-Overland Park, who carried the bill in the House, said the bill "really wasn't about governmental costs." He said it was about protecting individuals from pressure to make the political donations"

This man Marvin is making up stories what some would call lying.

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KansasLiberal 1 year, 2 months ago

Even though they control the state and have for over a century, it's too bad that the republicans have to resort to dirty tactics like this. It's because of greediness like this that the republican party is dying at the national level.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 2 months ago

Here's an amendment that the Republicans should like. Hook every teacher and public employee in the state up to a taser, and every time they say something that ALEC wouldn't approve of, give 'em a full dose.

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