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Court hearing granted in “birther” challenge to Obama’s place on the Kansas ballot

September 21, 2012, 11:17 a.m. Updated September 21, 2012, 1:38 p.m.

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— A California attorney has filed a lawsuit in Kansas challenging President Barack Obama's listing on the state's Nov. 6 election ballot.

Attorney Orly Taitz has promoted the discredited notion that Obama is not a U.S. citizen in other states. Her lawsuit in Shawnee County District Court also says she's representing a registered Kansas voter named Roger Walters but doesn't say where he lives.

Taitz filed her lawsuit Thursday, and a hearing is scheduled for Oct. 3.

The defendants in the lawsuit are the State Objections Board and Secretary of State Kris Kobach, its chairman.

Earlier this week, the board closed a review of whether Obama should be listed on the ballot after the president's birth-state of Hawaii authenticated information in an online copy of his birth certificate.

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georgeofwesternkansas 1 year, 6 months ago

The democrat party is behind this.

At this point in time it obvious that Obama is the only one who will benefit from this type of action.

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shotgun 1 year, 6 months ago

Trying to keep "The President of the United States of America", a Democrat, off the ballot in Kansas, is like picking out a better deck chair on The Titanic. Yet another "shining" moment for Kansas. You would think that these knuckleheads would use their energy to focus on a solution to our problems, rather than block a candidate form being on the ballot in a place where he has no chance of winning. Talk about simple thinking!

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Clevercowgirl 1 year, 6 months ago

I am so tired of watching political analysts on t.v. likening any jackankle politico move to something that that would occur in Kansas.

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jonas_opines 1 year, 6 months ago

Anyway, I suspect this is popping up again now because a lot of Republicans are realizing that, much like the Dems in 2004, they were handed a race that a child should have been able to win, but the Republicans, it seems, now have a good chance of losing.

And in the event that they do, I rather expect the party of personal responsibility is going to continue to blame the media, leftist conspiracies, gullible Americans, the 47% etc, rather than, ya'know, taking responsibility for the loss that they will truly have earned, all on their own.

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jonas_opines 1 year, 6 months ago

I remember looking this information up back when this story first started going, and found that. Then I found the original circulating email claiming illegitimacy based on those rulings, as debunked (poorly) by snopes. The original email flat lied about what is written.

They changed:

"The parents are married at the time of birth and the U.S. citizen parent had been physically present in the U.S. or its territories for a period of at least five years at some time in his or her life prior to the birth, of which at least two years were after his or her 14th birthday."

to, "residing in the US at least 10 years, at least five of which were after his or her 16th birthday", because then his mother wasn't approved, as she left at like 17 and gave birth to him at 18. Details are a little fuzzy now, but I remember finding all the necessary dates, and he would qualify, regardless of where he was born.

It's rather sad how disinformation catches on so easily when it plays to what people want to believe. It's not limited to birther idiots either. Any of you ever seen the supposed Reagan quote: "They (the Taliban) are the equivalent of America's Founding Fathers"? Yeah, he didn't say the Taliban (hence the parenthetical addition), because he wasn't talking about the Taliban, or indeed anyone in Afghanistan at all. He was referencing the Nicaraguan rebels, and while that might be a story of its own, its certainly not as gripping of one as the lie tried to make it seem in our current world situation.

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kuguardgrl13 1 year, 6 months ago

In case you want to read up on our citizenship laws: http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=32dffe9dd4aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=32dffe9dd4aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

Regardless of whether Obama's father was a naturalized citizen or a resident alien, assuming his mother was indeed born in Kansas, that automatically makes Obama a citizen. Done deal.

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emmy2500025 1 year, 6 months ago

John McCain was born in Panama, and i do not mean in the canal zone. Nobody complained about that. Then again he is white. Asking for President's Obama's 'papers' to me, is like asking a free black man for his papers back in the 1800's. It is so sad to me that people that are my friends are so easily swayed that they view YouTube videos as 'Serious Research' and the latest fear mongering email as 'Gospel Fact'. There isn't enough room to post here about a news story here in my own city where one channel reported the rumors, and another reported the actual story, and another reported on the station that reported the rumors.

If putting Obama in the White House was a conspiracy, couldn't the conspirators have come up with a better name than Barrack Hussein? Please leave your CONFIRMATION BIAS and AD HOMINEMS at the door and try, just try to avoid being confused by the facts. If you don't understand Confirmation Bias and Ad Hominems, please take a class in Logic and Critical Thinking, or at least read up on them before ignorantly replying to this post.

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oneeye_wilbur 1 year, 6 months ago

What about the grandma's brother.? That would be Obama's great uncle. Are there any cousins of his mother that know where he was born ?

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Gregory Newman 1 year, 6 months ago

ask her why does she hang out in the red light district close to UC berkeley since she knows so much

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KEITHMILES05 1 year, 6 months ago

She is a total nutcase who needs to be put out to the pasture. This is absolute abuse of time, money, and the court. It's been establish MANY times alreadyby the courts Obama is what he is...........a citizen of this country. So sad we have "intelligent" yahoos wanting to be taken serious. Laughable!

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classclown 1 year, 6 months ago

ksjayhawk74

The judge ruled that Obama's place on the ballot could not be removed by challenge because Obama, as president, automatically appears on the ballot and without his consent. Thus, Obama cannot be held immediately responsible for proving his eligibility."

September 21, 2012 at 1:40 p.m

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That ruling is faulty as past presidents have chosen not to run for another term even though they were eligible and their names were not automatically on the ballot against their will. Johnson in 1968 and Truman in 1952 being the latest.

I believe a higher court would strike down his ruling.

Not that I think this case has any merit, just that the judge made his ruling for the wrong (and ignorant) reason.

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James Nelson 1 year, 6 months ago

Why doesn't this hate mongeress simply take her hate back to whereever she came from?

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tolawdjk 1 year, 6 months ago

Haven't read the full board, but my guess is that it is being pushed in KS for a couple reasons. One, if it succeeds here, it can be used in other locations. It can also be used after the election should Obama win. Should that not be successful, it can still be used to throw a monkey wrench into his Administration for the next four.

Second, and I don't think this would have much impact in KS, but maybe elsewhere, if Obama is not on the ballot, then many voters may not show and while it will have no ultimate impact on the Presidential election, it could effect the downvote ballots.

If Kobach wants to keep the integrity of the election, he will kick this out.

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Kookamooka 1 year, 6 months ago

LOL! The objections board and Kris Kobach are going to look like liberals when they are forced by law to concede that Pres. Obama is legally allowed to be on the ballot in KS. Go on Tea Party Birther Kooks! You are just pushing our conservative politicians further to the LEFT!

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Jeff Cuttell 1 year, 6 months ago

Their hope is keep enough democrats away from the polls due to not being able to vote for their candidate for POTUS that it gets Republican candidates elected or reelected to other offices.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 6 months ago

This is all about appealing to the wacko Republican base. The RyanRomney campaign is floundering right now, and Republicans know that to win, they have to mobilize that base to the max.

Kansas, with a solid phalanx of top state-level Republicans of the wacko strain, primarily Brownback, Kobach, Colyer, is a friendly place to throw this futile bit of BS against the wall, and it'll play well all across the wackosphere nationwide.

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bigtoe 1 year, 6 months ago

There aren't enough lights on the scoreboard to ring up how badly Sheik Obama is going to get trounced in November. He is a complete and total disaster and the most incompetent and unqualified person to ever hold the office. He makes Jimmy Carter look like Steven Hawking.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 6 months ago

Where's Sage, must have suffered too much by the logical beatdown today.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 6 months ago

notwhatyouthink: Pres. Obama did not release his birth certificate right away for a very good political reason. He knew birthers, T-baggers, Koch-a-kolas, The Donald would waste their time, money and reputation by dragging this on. Would you expect anything less if the shoe was on the other foot with pudgy Karl Rove in charge.

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friendlyjhawk 1 year, 6 months ago

Just another way that Kansans look like idiots. That California nutjob lawyer smelled money in nutjob Kansas and kept looking for someone here to support her cause. Bazinga, she found a couple of them. One just couldn't take the "pressure" so now she won't disclose the location of the other. Almost enough to make this native Kansan hurl.

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Stacy Napier 1 year, 6 months ago

Maybe he shouldn't have taken a year to release his birth certificate. You have to admit that he went about it all wrong. Why didn't he just put it out there when first asked during his election? Then it took him a whole year to release it. A year is plenty of time to tie up loose ends when you are the president.

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tir 1 year, 6 months ago

(Eye roll)

Just another day in BrownWHACKistan....

It would be funny if it wasn't so utterly pathetic. If these imbeciles truly want to waste their own time and money pursuing a frivolous lawsuit, it's their right and privilege to do so, but I resent the fact that they are wasting the Kansas court's time, not to mention making this state even more of a laughingstock than it already is. I hope that this suit is swiftly dismissed, and that they end up having to pay all court costs.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 6 months ago

Matthew2600: You are right, whereas Roger Waters created "The Wall", ,Roger Walters will be hitting the wall with the rest of the Kansas birther nut cases come November 5th, won't even need to wait to the 6th for Romney concession..

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question4u 1 year, 6 months ago

This fiasco should be very helpful in recruiting businesses to Kansas. You can almost taste that prosperity that Brownback is promising.

Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times has suggested that Kansas is "stuck in the 19th century" and "should document that it's in the 21st century" before being allowed to participate in elections.

Former Nixon White House counsel John Dean is a little more succinct. "What's the matter with Kansas?" he asks. "They're NUTS."

You can't buy publicity like that. Brownback's ecotourist venture will no doubt be booming in a few days, and those businesses will be lining up to move to Kansas. All it took was dispelling the stereotype of Kansas as backwards and ignorant. Thanks Joe Montgomery, Kris Kobach, Jeff Colyer, and Derrick Schmidt for showing the world that Kansans are levelheaded after all.

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tange 1 year, 6 months ago

Order the Pitocin. Time to get this thang birthed.

/ postpartum notwithstanding

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ThingTwo 1 year, 6 months ago

Always judge a book by it's words!

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grammaddy 1 year, 6 months ago

If this "birther" bs ad any real truth to it, don't you think Bill and Hillary would have been all over it during the primaries in'08? This only makes Kansas look even more backwards. The fact that Sageon Page is all excited about it tells me all I need to know. Hey Sageon Page, how about you come up with some proof that Obama is a fraud. I see why the wifey keeps you in the house.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

"Orly Taitz should be given a bill for legal expenses incurred by the State of Kansas for bringing this settled argument back into the courts. The judge should dismiss it as frivolous and see to it the State is Reimbursed for any and all expenses pertaining to these allegations that have been disproved many times . Enough of this BS!"

I second this motion!!!

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del888 1 year, 6 months ago

This is one way for Romney to win - just take Obama off the ballot. What a complete waste of money.

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Steve Jacob 1 year, 6 months ago

Kris Kobach and the Board opened the door for this to happen. Remember this in 2014 elections, if any Republican can get beat in Kansas, it's him.

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jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

The truly ironic thing about this is that Obama has virtually no chance of winning in KS, and given a winner take all apportionment of electoral votes, whether or not he's on the ballot is completely irrelevant here.

Or, are Romney supporters afraid Obama may win in KS?

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irvan moore 1 year, 6 months ago

i saw that lady lawyer on tv, she appeared to be a whack job

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matthew2600 1 year, 6 months ago

Roger Walters is no Roger Waters

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somedude20 1 year, 6 months ago

Yep, they have done it again. Not part, not half but full blown retard (Sage included)

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Mary Darst 1 year, 6 months ago

Just some more of Kansas looking dumb again.....

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rockchalker52 1 year, 6 months ago

The Republicans are desperate. They are getting their hat handed to them in the polls. They recently concluded the lamest political convention in modern history & they've nominated the most short-sighted presidential candidate I can recall.

Remember Romney's shining example of foreign policy expertise? He goes to the Olympics & tacitly insults the host nation's efforts. Now, a video surfaces in which he virtually writes off half the populace as entitlement minded leeches & then claims he supports 100% of Americans.

It's no wonder his supporters continue to hang on to this birther nonsense. They feel the need to do something, anything, that will deflect attention from the incompetency of their own candidate.

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atiopatioo 1 year, 6 months ago

Why would Mrs. Clinton start the birther movement if she didn't have evidence? Did her evidence disappear with Obama's grandmother when he visited her and she suddenly passed away from suffocation?

Mrs. Clinton is a smart lady. It is too bad Obama's grandmother suddenly died.

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pace 1 year, 6 months ago

As congress continues to be a damage to this country. Senator blowhard and limp fights bills for vets. They stand behind our troops, way behind like true cowards.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 6 months ago

Yoeman: Being a Navy guy myself, the one that still get's under my skin is the 1967 attack by Israel on the USS Liberty. Thirty five killed, LBJ and Israel claimed a "mistake", while really a purposeful action. LBJ said I don't care about men, or ship, I just don't want to embarass an ally (Israel). But, Senator John McCain (a prisoner of war at the time) and son of Chief of Naval Operations later agreed to the "mistake myth", in order to save papa's image. This is the same guy who now spouts his honorable military service, gave voice to swift-boaters (opposed to fellow Navy man Kerry) and sounds off on any of Obama's foreign policy issues. John is has has been loser, just like Sununu from New Hampshire.

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donttreadonme 1 year, 6 months ago

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Fred Whitehead Jr. 1 year, 6 months ago

I wonder how much money Donald Trump is dumping on thes fire he has caused? It just never fails to amaze my just how many idiots and jerks can come out of the woodwork when some irrelevant issue such as this "birther" thing come up. "

The government demolished the Twin Towers with secetly placed ex-plosives." "

The moon landing was done in Arizona (good republican refuge) with trick photography, "

and ah yes,....there is "the grassy knoll in Dallas." (you gotta be over 50 to remember that one!!

Fools and freaks are a part of our civilization and we will be encumbered with them endlessly as long as we have the freedon to speak. And there are those who will speak foolishly and wigh malice to all. Like the Phelpses, they should just be ignored if it was not taken so seriously by a demented splinter of the population.

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jehovah_bob 1 year, 6 months ago

All for a state that has only voted Democrat once since 1940.

Their point is moot, MOOT I say!

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Bob_Keeshan 1 year, 6 months ago

None of this happens if Derek Schmidt and Jeff Colyer stand up and dismiss the challenge at the first hearing.

The press is eager to blame Kobach, but the blame lies squarely with Schmidt and Colyer.

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eean 1 year, 6 months ago

So Kansas is voting on a Monday this year? Bold move.

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msezdsit 1 year, 6 months ago

"Attorney Orly Taitz has promoted the discredited notion that Obama is not a U.S. citizen in other states."

Yes. even you can have your very own birthir franchise. Maybe Taitz could tell how much she has made in promoting her stupidity and then, maybe she wouldn't look so stupid. Hope she isn't tapping into herr birthir kobach's birthir franchise.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 6 months ago

Sage has gotten on another hormone rage! Slow down, take a deep breath (but not if you are suffering from hay fever, as I am), pour a tall cool one, kick back and turn on MSNBC, that will help relax you!

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Thomas Bryce 1 year, 6 months ago

Orly Taitz should be given a bill for legal expenses incurred by the State of Kansas for bringing this settled argument back into the courts. The judge should dismiss it as frivolous and see to it the State is Reimbursed for any and all expenses pertaining to these allegations that have been disproved many times . Enough of this BS!

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SageonPage 1 year, 6 months ago

Taitz claims the president has engaged in identity fraud in the use of forged identification papers, including a Connecticut Social Security number not issued to him, and is using a last name that isn’t legally his. Barry Soetoro is up to no good, how in the world did the dems pull this one off? I bet it never happens again.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 6 months ago

Oh good, more positive publicity for Kansas, at at the same time Sammy is pushing for Ecotourism! I'm sure the coasters are overwhelming the phone lines to inquire about reservations before they are all taken. Some of the possibilities: Keystone Pipeline Route, Homeplace of Brownie in Parker, Site of homebase of helicopter alien shooter, Most likely spot in the State to be either hit by a tornado or struck by lightning, Site of Steve Abrams and Connie Morris anti-evolution Board of Evolution Meeting, Location of Smilin Sam rejecting Art's Funding, Holcomb Kansas for "In Cold Blood" and new but outdated coal burner, KU football game, farm pond where Galilee swimmer practiced, and as a side trip for Notre Dame football fans, the killing site of Knute Rockne! Oh so many options!

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SageonPage 1 year, 6 months ago

What is Barry Seotoro aka Barack Obama hiding? The facade is starting to crumble Barry Soetoro and let's talk about your fraudulent SS# from Connecticut, a State you have no common ties to. Why is Barry Soetoro wanting to suppress the video of his hearing in New Jersey?

http://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/full-video-of-the-nj-obama-ballot-access-challenge-public-hearing/

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observant 1 year, 6 months ago

There's Walters in Wichita, Lebo, Olatha, and KC. Bet it's the Wichita nut.

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GUMnNUTS 1 year, 6 months ago

A nice article about this in yesterdays Topeka Capital Journal. I love the video. http://cjonline.com/news/2012-09-20/taitz-files-kan-suit-block-obama-candidacy

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1 year, 6 months ago

Is she licensed to practice law in Kansas? If she's not, then she's breaking the law.

Where's her Kansas law license.

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ksjayhawk74 1 year, 6 months ago

You know who definitely could not run for President? Orly Taitz. She is Russian, as in, she was born in Russia to Russian parents.

It's hilarious that some would support a Russian in undermining the President of the United States, under the guise of Patriotism...

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lama 1 year, 6 months ago

Perhaps Derek Schmidt can hire a high-priced out-of-state law firm to write a brief in the case. Another great use of tax money.

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somedude20 1 year, 6 months ago

I bet a number of these birther cats use these fantasies to gratify themselves sexually but at the end of the day, they are only "manipulating" themselves

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lawrencian 1 year, 6 months ago

Why the hell are they entertaining this lawsuit from a person who doesn't even live in Kansas?

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Paul Geisler 1 year, 6 months ago

What a waste of time! Somebody better book her a flight back to Cali!

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somedude20 1 year, 6 months ago

What about Willard's birth certificate as his pops was born in Mexico? Oh, he is white and therefore is exempt.

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SageonPage 1 year, 6 months ago

She has every right to do so and I applaud her efforts to uncover fraudulent candidates and to ensure we are guarding our Constitution. Go Orly!

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