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Panel rules Obama is eligible to be on Kansas ballot

September 17, 2012

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— Kansas officials on Monday ended a “birther” challenge to putting President Barack Obama on the state’s November general election ballot.

Orly Taitz of California talks to media Monday, alleging President Barack Obama's birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii is a forgery. Behind her are supporters of Obama. The State Objections Board on Monday dropped a challenge to putting Obama's name on the November general election ballot.

Orly Taitz of California talks to media Monday, alleging President Barack Obama's birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii is a forgery. Behind her are supporters of Obama. The State Objections Board on Monday dropped a challenge to putting Obama's name on the November general election ballot.

On Thursday, the State Objections Board caused a national furor when it delayed a decision on a challenge brought by Manhattan resident Joe Montgomery, who said Obama was ineligible to be on the ballot because he wasn’t a U.S. citizen.

The all-Republican board — composed of Secretary of State Kris Kobach, Attorney General Derek Schmidt and Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer — said it needed more time on the matter to get documents certifying Obama’s birth certificate from Hawaii.

By late Friday, however, Montgomery withdrew his objection because, he said, he was the victim of abuse and intimidation.

On Monday, the board appeared ready to dismiss the matter and adjourn, but Orly Taitz, a national figure in challenging Obama’s citizenship, appeared at the meeting, demanded to speak to the board and challenged the president’s place on the ballot.

She said that Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and that Montgomery withdrew his objection under duress. “This is a matter of national security,” she said.

But Kobach said Taitz’s challenge was not filed within the deadline to present a ballot challenge.

“I’m sorry, if you had filed your objection during that period you would have been perfectly able to bring,” the issues, he said.

Attorney General Schmidt and Lt. Gov. Colyer, were no-shows at the Monday meeting and sent representatives. Colyer, who is a plastic surgeon, was “with patients,” according to Gov. Sam Brownback’s office. Schmidt was out sick, his office said.

Colyer’s chief of staff, Mark Dugan, filling in for Colyer, quickly moved to adjourn the meeting, and Chief Deputy Attorney General John Campbell, filling in for Schmidt, called for a vote on the matter.

The motion passed unanimously, but not before Kobach allowed Taitz to speak briefly at the meeting.

Later, outside the meeting room, an Obama supporter shouted at Taitz as she spoke to the media and a security officer cleared the hallway, ordering people outside.

Kobach, an informal adviser to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, said he didn’t believe Kansas suffered negative publicity over the ballot challenge. He said if an objection is properly filed, the board is obligated to consider it.

The allegation that Obama was born in a foreign country and ineligible to be president has been discredited. The White House released the president’s 1961 long form birth certificate last year and Hawaii officials have repeatedly confirmed his citizenship. Obama’s mother was a Kansas native.

Asked why the birth certificate challenge wasn’t dismissed on Thursday, Kobach said the state needed a verification of the document.

“Like any quasi-judicial body, you have to do more than just act on somebody’s say-so or on hearsay,” he said. The secretary of state’s office received verification from Hawaii officials about the validity of Obama’s birth certificate, officials said.

About a dozen Obama supporters showed up at the meeting and expressed displeasure, saying the board gave the challenge credence by not dismissing it last week.

T.J. Gaughan of Topeka held a sign that said “Let People Vote,” and he criticized Kobach for pushing the new law in Kansas that requires voters to show photo ID to vote.

He called it a voter suppression law. Gaughan added, “It’s a shame our state has been dragged before the nation with this birther stuff.”

Comments

ksjayhawk74 2 years, 3 months ago

Now the Republican Objections board is going to start reviewing information to determine is gravity is real or in fact just a Liberal media conspiracy.

ebyrdstarr 2 years, 3 months ago

They should. After all, gravity is just a theory...

Sean Livingstone 2 years, 3 months ago

Naah.... like trickle-down magnetic pull..... from the center of the earth.. :P

Patricia Davis 2 years, 3 months ago

These Koch-ups have done so well for Kansas. Reading comments at different news venues across the internet, Kansas has been written off as a place worse than South Carolina or Mississippi.The glorious free state history of Kansas has been thrown under the bus by these hacks.

Mike1949 2 years, 3 months ago

Does Kansas really rate as high as SC or Mississippi? I think they are stretching it!

fiddleback 2 years, 3 months ago

Hey, at least, we're not the rank hypocrites that Southerners are when it comes to collecting government assistance. Based on this map, the book title should have been, "What's the Matter with Kentucky?"

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/12/us/entitlement-map.html

But then that would be a trick question, because it's harder to say what isn't the matter with Kentucky...

fiddleback 2 years, 3 months ago

Yep, we're all pals now!

Oh, I'd like to buy the world a Koch...

Kathy Getto 2 years, 3 months ago

"....and keep it company. That's the real(GOP)thing..." LOL

Bob Forer 2 years, 3 months ago

Kobach: I'd like to buy the Kochs the world......

bunnyhawk 2 years, 3 months ago

Shouldn't that be,"Oh, I'd like a Koch to buy the world"? I mean why stop with Kansas? the USA?

fiddleback 2 years, 3 months ago

By the way, SageyPagey, how do you feel about your boy Kris accepting that certificate as authentic?

[Kobach bites edge of certificate, swirls flavor in mouth] “Yep, this here’s bona fide…”

yourworstnightmare 2 years, 3 months ago

How embarrassing for Colyer, Schmidt, and Kobach. They are a mockery of their offices by engaging this birther nonsense. At least Kobach had the nerve to show up, whereas Colyer and Schmidt slunk away with tails between legs.

I would not want to be associated with Orly Taitz and the birthers either. Which is why they should not have entertained this nonsense in the first place.

fiddleback 2 years, 3 months ago

Coming soon to an adult theater near you: Oily Taintz vs. the Kenyan’s Long-Form…

Abdu Omar 2 years, 3 months ago

I wonder if the Orly Taitz has connections to Bibi in Israel. I mean, Obama has been tough on Bibi by not declaring a red line in the negotiations with Iran. Now this Jewish woman wants Obama off the ballot in many states contending he isn't an American Citizen. She isn't either if you look at her background. But does she and Netanyahu have a plan or am I a conspiracy hunter?

ksjayhawk74 2 years, 3 months ago

Orly is Russian. According to Mitt Romney, Russia is "our number one geopolitical foe", which makes this all make sense.

jhawkinsf 2 years, 3 months ago

Actually, Orly is also a black belt in TaeKwonDo, which is Korean. Clearly this is an attempt by North Korea to make America look bad on the world scene. Either that or UFOs abducted, oh, never mind.

Lisa Rasor 2 years, 3 months ago

Not true! Yes, it's been a while, but Democrats have won Kansas before and it could happen again if people--especially farmers--ever come to their senses and stop voting against their own best interests.

bad_dog 2 years, 3 months ago

Let us all know when Mittens reveals any of the details of either "plan".

yourworstnightmare 2 years, 3 months ago

"But Orly Taitz, a national figure in the birther movement, appeared at the meeting, demanded to speak to the board and challenged Obama's place on the ballot."

Thank you Colyer, Schmidt, and Kobach for bringing this person to Kansas. Maybe she should run for office in the state. She would probably win given who else Kansas has elected.

These three men Colyer, Schmidt, and Kobach are an embarrassment to the offices they hold.

ksjayhawk74 2 years, 3 months ago

Ironically, she can't run for President because she's definitely not a natural born citizen.

KEITHMILES05 2 years, 3 months ago

LMAO at you. It's been ruled by the courts of law Obama is a citizen. Bad grapes you ate? You are silly! I applaud people for standing up against this radical thought and getting in their faces. It is time to take a stand against those who are wanting to tear this country apart with their personal vendetta against this President. It is shameful this is being played out in the great state of Kansas. After all, we fought tooth and nail to draw the line against slavery. Now, we must put up with the ridiculous notion a sitting president isn't really legally able to occupy the office. Talk about stupid and a waste of time.

Steve Bunch 2 years, 3 months ago

Utter nonsense. Try to make sense when you write.

beatrice 2 years, 3 months ago

Yes, the point has been made. Possibly with forceps, but I have no doubt you attempt to hide it with a hat.

mom_of_three 2 years, 3 months ago

"They thumb their nose at the constitution.,,," Really, Really????you say that while the Republicans are against civil rights for a portion of the population and are trying to install those personhood amendments.

SnakeFist 2 years, 3 months ago

You forgot to call everyone you disagree with a communist. How do you expect to have any credibility if you don't play that card at every opportunity?

Corey Williams 2 years, 3 months ago

and socialist, muslim, america hater...did I forget anything?

Shelley Bock 2 years, 3 months ago

Seventy years ago this month, my father was contracting malaria on a little island called Guadalcanal as a Marine who enlisted prior to 7 December 41. He never voted for a Republican and considered them on the verge of being contrary to the American ideals he fought to defend. Though, he would laugh at Bob Dole's jokes because he was sane.

Democrats and Liberals are also called Patriots, Marines, Vets and Americans. Enough of the name calling by the new Republicans extreme.

bevy 2 years, 3 months ago

Thanks to your dad for his courage and sacrifice - and to you for keeping the memory of it alive!

Fossick 2 years, 3 months ago

So all that weeping and gnashing of teeth about how the Rt Wing Libertarian Neocon Fundamentalist Tea Party for Economic Terrorism would throw Obama off the ballot was for naught? I can smell the disappointment...

beatrice 2 years, 3 months ago

Gee, how magnamious of this board to declare a citizen and current President of the United States of America is actually eligible for the ballot.

What next, going to announce he can also drink from the same water fountain as everyone else?

grammaddy 2 years, 3 months ago

That too. He recently announced he would stay Black for at least the next 4 years.Oh the audacity....

bad_dog 2 years, 3 months ago

Just couldn't resist adding that his "black father left the family early on" to ensure inclusion of your stereotypical inference. Or is that just a "half inference"?

It's a good thing no white fathers ever leave their families "early on".

mom_of_three 2 years, 3 months ago

oh please. if you take that stance, that obama is responsible for the deaths in libya, then you need to hold bush responsible (and clinton possibly) for the deaths on 9/11. but keep grasping at straws.

grammaddy 2 years, 3 months ago

Much as Bush/Cheney ignored the warnings about Al Quida attacking with planes.....numerous times. Toast, that would be know-nothing Robme and Lyin' Ryan.

bad_dog 2 years, 3 months ago

Can you say Presidential Daily Briefings?

deec 2 years, 3 months ago

Where did you read that Obama ignored warnings from Libya that when right-wing extremists posted a video on youtube in Arabic that mocked Mohammad al-Queda operatives would use the ensuing riots to attack the U.S. consulate?

i mean it's not like he got a memo a month in advance that was titled "Bin Ladin determined to strike in U.S." or anything.

Also Gallup has Obama ahead by three.

dwendel 2 years, 3 months ago

LMAO at you SageyPagey. That hose has been dead for many years, and you've still been beating on it non-stop, every day, as loudly and rediculously as possible ever since. Suddenly you declare it dead? You, BirtherONE? King of All Birthers? The Birthermeister? This is your bread and butter. This is the subject of your life's work, with hundreds and hundreds of posts invested. Why are desperately trying to change the topic. Birther. Birther. BIrther. Come on, you're not giving up? Are you, birther? There's still time to prove Obama's from Kenya, birther.. Surely Kris Kobach must have been kidnapped and replaced by an imposter Kobach, birther. Demand an investigation, birther. You know Obama was born in Kenya and is secretly plotting to be dictator for life, birther. How can you let this happen, birther?

By the way, SageyPagey... You are still a birther. Quit trying to change the subject. Stand up and be proud. Birther.

Corey Williams 2 years, 3 months ago

SageonPage 2 hours, 34 minutes ago

Obama submitted a fraudulent birth certificate last April online.

SageonPage 1 hour, 14 minutes ago

This is a dead horse

bad_dog 2 years, 3 months ago

Carry the birther torch, Sage! It wasn't too late for ole Joe. He got a hearing, why not you? There's still plenty of ridicule left.

fiddleback 2 years, 3 months ago

Maybe it finally dawned on him that not only has he doubtfully ever convinced anyone of anything, he creates such a rancid self-parody that anything he espouses becomes even more ridiculous by association. And as theoretically difficult as it would be to make birther-ism even dumber and more loathsome, I think Sagey managed that feat.

In a way, it's sad to find someone so thoroughly anti-persuasive that he functions merely as a troll, yet lacks the self-awareness to realize it and still earnestly posts what he considers to be cogent arguments. On the other hand, he's a perfect internet cautionary tale, and probably makes everyone less right-wing in his wake. If I were a conspiracy theorist like him, I'd allege that he was one of the most expert arch-liberal trolls to have ever existed. But then we're in Kansas, so it's 99x more likely that he's simply the pathetic creature previously described.

tomatogrower 2 years, 3 months ago

SP, That would be shrieks of laughter, no wails. Just us catching our breaths from the laughter.

fiddleback 2 years, 3 months ago

Yeah, right, I'm the drama queen... Unfortunately for your strawman, you'll notice I hardly mentioned let alone "defended against" birther-ism, which has had its shot and failed to gain traction. There's nothing credible to fight against. I spent the time writing because I find you more interesting as a profile of rabid partisanship and the Dunning Krueger effect.

Also, you seem to be unaware that your terribleness at advocating basically equates to the Sidam Touch (opposite of Midas), i.e. everything you touch turns to crap. Or put another way, you run touchdowns in the wrong direction. It's all very funny to observe. The only thing better than a village idiot is a contemptible one who makes the laughter guilt-free.

beatrice 2 years, 3 months ago

What is this about Romney and a dead horse???

Well, there goes a perfectly good tax break.

bad_dog 2 years, 3 months ago

I needs me some of that kind of tax "therapy". I can only afford a stick horse and a paperback copy of "Seabiscuit".

beatrice 2 years, 3 months ago

No, I'm making fun of people put in the position of defending $70,000+ tax breaks on fancy performance horses.

tomatogrower 2 years, 3 months ago

She rides? I thought she hired people to ride her horse. Someone needs to send her back to school though. She still thinks Czechoslovakia exists.

seanj 2 years, 3 months ago

Amazing what we spend our time on in this information age. We have a sitting President, elected in 2008, that elected officials will question to gain political points. What's worse? An electorate that is this gullible, ill-informed, and down right out of touch with the issues critical to the next four years and beyond. Whether we are blue or red, the least we can do is get educated on the critical issues and vote in a manner that is representatives to our needs and beliefs. Amazed at how a political advertisement, a conspiracy theory, or the like will impact the way one votes.

Ricky_Vaughn 2 years, 3 months ago

Embarrassed to be a Kansan after reading this.

blindrabbit 2 years, 3 months ago

Just heard that Sage got a tip from his Italian friends! The cruise ship Costa Concordia struck the rock shoal while trying to avoid a Ethiopian submarine torpedo. Apparently deceased emperor Haile Selassie had left a 40 year old fatwa because of Italian abuses of Ethiopia and Eritrea during WW2. As we all know (according to the birthers) that African born Barak Obama felt the need to comply with the edict, and agreed to the attack. Actually, the misdirected torpedo was recovered on the beach in Italy and painted on the outside was "Revenge is tough" signed BHA, along with a picture of the perpertrator.

webmocker 2 years, 3 months ago

In a sudden and bizarre turnaround, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach has requested from the State of Hawaii the remains of the placenta from President Obama's birth. Kobach said, "We cannot be certain that Obama's mother is who they say she is without DNA evidence from the moment of birth."

Fossick 2 years, 3 months ago

So he's now head of the Afterbirther movement?

bad_dog 2 years, 3 months ago

with some fava beans and a nice Chianti...

beatrice 2 years, 3 months ago

Millions? Amateurs. How many billions do we continue to give to oil companies year after year? And that isn't even theft! We just give it to them!

Your tax dollars hard at work ... know what I'm saying?

tomatogrower 2 years, 3 months ago

Here, let me help you, rc. This Texas doctor stole more than a quarter of a billion. Of course he probably was an "upstanding" Texas citizen in all the right country clubs. My daughter is a social worker. She said they have had clients move up here from Texas who were getting food stamps there, but never had to go to an office or meet a social worker. It was all done on the phone. That's the system the Brownie wanted for us. If you conservatives are so against fraud, why do you make it so easy? You don't read about these huge fraud cases in Democratic states, like Massachusetts.

http://elitedaily.com/elite/2012/doctor-accused-medicare/

beatrice 2 years, 3 months ago

... thus demonstrating the panel's extreme partisan biases.

danmoore 2 years, 3 months ago

"When Kansas breaks into the New York headlines, it usually means one of two things," quipped a rueful farmer during the 1930s Dust Bowl period. "Either we have suffered an act of God or else we have made fools of ourselves."

I'm choosing the latter.

Shaun Battles 2 years, 3 months ago

Well that settles it. Hopefully KS can become a model for the rest of the country.

Ha!

Kathy Getto 2 years, 3 months ago

Right.....next you will claim he has a love child.

beatrice 2 years, 3 months ago

I see the true Christian love for fellow human beings is on full display as we near the election.

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