Archive for Friday, September 7, 2012

Home schooling discussion ends before it starts

September 7, 2012


— TOPEKA — State officials on Friday backed off any examination of the requirements for home schooling.

“I don’t see us pursuing that next year,” said state Rep. Steve Huebert, R-Valley Center, who is chairman of the House-Senate Legislative Educational Planning Committee.

Huebert noted that several members of the State Board of Education last month said they had heard of children being kept home to baby-sit younger siblings while their parents claimed the children were being home-schooled.

But Huebert said current state law is adequate to investigate such allegations without having to consider changing any laws dealing with home schooling.

During the August meeting of the Education Board, Chairman David Dennis, R-Wichita, said he would like to discuss whether the board should propose legislation to increase state reporting requirements for home-schoolers. The board agreed to discuss the issue further this month.

But officials said Friday that discussion won’t occur. Education Board Member Sue Storm, D-Kansas City, who attended the Legislative Educational Planning Committee meeting, said board members were “hammered” by home-schooling proponents.

Kansas doesn’t specifically authorize home schooling, but it does recognize what are called “nonaccredited private schools.” Nonaccredited schools are not required to employ teachers who are certified by the state, but their courses must be taught by competent instructors, and classes must be held for about the same number of days as public schools.

The only requirement to have a nonaccredited private school is to register the name and address of the school and custodian of school records with the State Board of Education.

State Sen. Jean Schodorf, R-Wichita, said no one wants to limit home schooling but that maybe there could be a more open dialogue between state education officials and home-schoolers.

“I want all kids in Kansas to get a quality education,” she said.


Mollie New Leaf 5 years, 8 months ago

If people are keeping their kids home to babysit then they're obviously not homeschooling, but because they claim to home school you want to go after the people who actually do home school? That doesn't make sense. Take it by a case-by-case basis - Don't punish actual home schooling families for something a non-home schooler does.

dabbindan 5 years, 8 months ago

so you shouldn't go after honest voters because 5 in a million may vote when they shouldn't? i like that.

Gary Denning 5 years, 8 months ago

Sounds like the folks on this committee don't have the guts to even look into this issue. Sad.

Paul R Getto 5 years, 8 months ago

True that. The "gifted mothers" mainly from JOCO and the home schoolers make legislators weak in the knees

kansanbygrace 5 years, 8 months ago

A way to require some accountability. I think that's all that's needed.

booyalab 5 years, 8 months ago

"I want all kids in Kansas to get a quality education,"

Then why don't you give the homeschoolers some more money? That works with the unions, right?

hyperinflate 5 years, 8 months ago

This is, without pause, the stupidest comment I have read all week. And that's a rather high bar given the tea baggy mouth breathers on this forum.

booyalab 5 years, 8 months ago

I think some people are born without sarcasm detectors. Their form of humor is an exceedingly clever play on words like "tea baggy".

gbulldog 5 years, 8 months ago

Something smells in the Education when graduates, let alone dropouts, perform in a public workplace. Have many times have you had people who could not count change or even dedermine is the cash register is right? Then look at how adept they are at writting. Also why remedial college courses and why all the tutors and help for the athletes. Please look at was was required of a person to receive an 8th grade certificate in the late 1800's. My grandmother was better educated in a one-room rural Kansas school. Even though she did not go to highschool, was went to college untill economic circumstances forced her to quit. Also why do I see numerous home schoold persons performing well in college? And let's not even begin to talk about reduction in the number of males starting college!!!

ChiHawk27 5 years, 8 months ago

This may be one of the most ironic comments posted yet! Criticizing and commenting on education, when you yourself are proving to be rather inept at writing (and cannot even spell "writing" correctly...there's only one t). Perhaps you would have been better off in the one-room rural Kansas school with your grandmother. I hope you are able to count change and deTermine iF the cash register is right.

Betty Bartholomew 5 years, 8 months ago

That's what proofreading before hitting the post button is for. Also, the edit button after posting.

Paul R Getto 5 years, 8 months ago

"But Huebert said current state law is adequate to investigate such allegations without having to consider changing any laws dealing with home schooling." ==== Good point. Turn in home schoolers as truant each fall and the administration is covered. If they are really teaching 4-6 hours a day, good for them. If they are not, SRS will catch up with them. Besides, there is no money to "investigate." I have noticed some days at the store that some home school parents have very long planning periods.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 5 years, 8 months ago

In my humble and useless opnion, this "home schooling" thing has long been a favorite dodge of public law by goofy parents who want to keep their childern away from the blacks, muslims, catholics, humanists, latinos, and other elements of society that they have a ax to grind with. I would imagine that most of these "home scholled" kids will grow up to mirror the bigoted, prejudiced and outrageous opinions of their debauched parents.

hyperinflate 5 years, 8 months ago

Keep in mind, we do need ditch diggers. They gotta come from somewhere.

Paul R Getto 5 years, 8 months ago

That was once the case, but good home schooling is much better now and the motivations are more diverse. Few who homeschool keep them for 13 years.

Paul R Getto 5 years, 8 months ago

They might but it is none of our business if they do. Students usually end up like their parents. Students who never miss day of school still spend less than 10% of their first 18 years in school.

dabbindan 5 years, 8 months ago

anything can be abused by that certain percentage of the population that insists on being idiots. to have no mechanism to hold the by definition, unsupervisable home schoolers accountable, the state is letting down it's children. a certain (sizable?) percentage of home schoolers are a bit paranoid about government/culture/others/outsiders and will squawk pretty loud. most (probably) home schoolers are good honest people who give their children a great (better?) education, but will have to deal with the scrutiny brought on by the idiots. it's certainly imperative for the state to intervene if there as many idiot home schoolers as there alleged to be illegal voters. and there a whole bunch of those aren't there?

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