Archive for Sunday, September 2, 2012

NCAA: Self, KU athletics can’t market new facility

September 2, 2012


If the city’s proposed $24 million recreation center in northwest Lawrence becomes a huge draw for regional and national youth sporting tournaments, it won’t be because Bill Self or Kansas University officials put their marketing power behind it.

Officials at KU confirmed that NCAA rules will not allow the athletics department to become involved in promoting the proposed center.

“We can’t be involved with that at all,” Jim Marchiony, an associate athletic director for KU, said of promoting the city facility.

That is different from what city officials once thought.

“I know when we were first thinking about this project, I thought Bill Self could make a call and land us ‘X’ number of tournaments,” said City Commissioner Hugh Carter. “We know now that is not how it works, but we’ll still have a lot of synergy with KU basketball.”

Carter said the recent announcement that the original rules of basketball will be housed in Lawrence will be a major drawing card for regional and national tournaments.

Mayor Bob Schumm said he still thinks KU will be a major asset to the success of the city’s fieldhouse, even if the university can’t be directly involved in marketing the facility.

As proposed, the 50-acre recreation complex at the northwest corner of Sixth Street and the South Lawrence Trafficway will include the city-operated recreation center and a university-operated track and field stadium and soccer field.

“They’ll be mutually exclusive, but I think the fact we will have the notoriety of having our facility adjacent to KU’s facility will help elevate our stature with people who are thinking about bringing tournaments here,” Schumm said.

NCAA officials have become extremely interested in how universities interact with youth basketball tournaments. In 2011, the NCAA passed regulations that prohibit AAU and other similar youth basketball tournaments from being hosted at university facilities.

NCAA leaders had expressed concern that the on-campus tournaments gave some universities a recruiting advantage.

But the new regulations also state youth basketball tournaments can’t be held on off-campus facilities that are regularly used for practice or competition by any of the university’s sports programs.

KU will be using the track and field stadium and soccer field for its KU teams. That had created a question of whether the NCAA would declare the entire 50-acre sports complex — including the youth fieldhouse — off limits to youth basketball tournaments.

Marchiony, though, said KU officials have reviewed the regulations and are highly confident they will present no issues for the fieldhouse. He said the NCAA would not view the fieldhouse as an off-campus facility of KU because the university has no plans to use the fieldhouse.

An official with the NCAA on Friday said he wasn’t in a position to comment on the specifics of the Lawrence situation because several of the NCAA’s experts on the rules weren’t available.


Jonathan Becker 5 years, 9 months ago

The NCAA discovered and stopped all of the child sex abuse at Penn State. No wait, wait. It caused Bobby Petrino's Hawg to lose control. No, they did not know he was paying his mistress to ride. It stopped the murder at Baylor Basketball, no wait, that's not it. It just discovered the lying afterwards. It stopped the point shaving scandal at Arizona State basketball. No, that was the FBI. It discovered while the Fab Five played at Michigan that they were money laundering that began in high school. No, that was the FBI, years later.

Well, they certainly increased the graduation rate at UConn basketball, no, that's not it. SMU death penalty. There's an example of the NCAA on top of things, no wait, the continued payment of players, even after the first round of sanctions, was uncovered by the local NBC TV and radio reporter.

I am sure there is a good reason for the NCAA. I just can't find it.

Jeff Kilgore 5 years, 9 months ago

Well said. It's weak and passes down arbitrary decisions, but it is true that they can't be everywhere all the time.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 9 months ago

And Jayhawk basketball cannot sell this new field house concept now or next year.

Developers thought Jayhawk Basketball would bring millions of shoppers to Lawrence which of course has proven to be a gigantic illusion.

Contrary to a another article on this matter in the paper today it seems Mayor Bob Schumm and Commissioner Carter have signed off on the reckless use of tax dollars. It's their choice of words not mine.

Jayhawk basketball is good for basketball season ..... that's it. No matter how developers and politicians spin it.

There is no gift involved taxpayers are being asked to shell out 30 million $$$$ at the very least.

Build the KU track on KU campus behind Allen Fieldhouse. Coach Self can donate a million $$$$ to the track and have his name all over it. And why not?

John Hamm 5 years, 9 months ago

Can the citizens of this fair city organize a petition drive to force this to a ballot?

jhawkinsf 5 years, 9 months ago

Of course they can. The question is, do you care enough to do it yourself? And if you do, will the voters come out in sufficient numbers so as to be representative of the population as a whole? I don't know the answer to the first question and I suspect the answer to the second is no. So whether or not it is put to a vote or the decisions are made by our elected officials wouldn't really change anything. Rather than a petition, it seems to me that if you became actively involved in the election of local politicians with whom you share policy positions, you would have a greater impact than having a single issue brought to the voters. Or you could run for office yourself. But either way, the choice is always yours.

Patricia Davis 5 years, 9 months ago

And if that fails, there is always boycotting every business represented by these jerks in office.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

There is one purpose of the NCAA-- to protect the brand of college athletics, and thereby ensure the massive profits that come with it (very little of which goes to the players.)

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