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Romney expected to win Kansas - but by how much?

October 25, 2012


— Mitt Romney is expected to roll up an easy victory in Republican-leaning Kansas, while Democrats contemplate how much worse President Barack Obama's showing will be than it was four years ago.

NO CONTEST: Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney is expected to easily carry GOP-leaning Kansas in the Nov. 6 election, capturing its six electoral votes.

CHANGING FORTUNES: When Barack Obama won the presidency in 2008, he received almost 42 percent of the vote in Kansas, the best showing for a Democratic candidate in 20 years, but fellow Democrats now expect him to receive a lower percentage.

THE FOIL: Conservative Kansas Republicans have increased their power in state government by playing off Obama and the 2010 federal health care law he championed, making the president a key figure in campaigns in 2010 and this year.

The state has been largely ignored in the presidential race ahead of the Nov. 6 election, with both major parties assuming from the outset that its six electoral votes will go to Romney, the GOP nominee and a former Massachusetts governor. Obama energized many fellow Democrats four years ago and captured nearly 42 percent of the vote, the best result for a Democratic candidate in 20 years.

Since Obama's election, conservative Kansas Republicans have made big strides by playing off the president and the federal health care overhaul that he championed. The rise of the tea party movement has also helped push the state's politics hard to the right.

Obama also appears to have lost the support of some Kansans who embraced his message of change four years ago but remain frustrated with the economy. Such voters include Jim and Joann Mayfield, 58-year-old Topeka residents who recently stopped by the Pizza Parlor for $1 taco and tostadas in the working-class Oakland neighborhood, where yards are dotted with signs for Democratic candidates, but none for Obama are visible.

Jim Mayfield lost his job as a cabinet maker in March 2011, while Joann is retiring from her job as a Hallmark Cards Inc. press operator ahead of the company's shutdown of its Topeka manufacturing plant. She's backing Romney; he's undecided but leaning toward the GOP nominee. Both voted for Obama in 2008 and said the president "came into a mess."

"I was hoping that he would be our miracle man," Joann Mayfield said of Obama. "I don't think he's an economy person. We need jobs for everybody."

The last Democrat to carry Kansas was Lyndon Johnson in 1964, and since then, the party's presidential nominees have averaged about 37 percent of the vote. The late George McGovern was the last Democrat to capture less than 30 percent of the vote in Kansas, in 1972.

Obama traveled to Osawatomie, about 50 miles southwest of Kansas City, in December 2011 to give a major speech on economic policy. This week, Gov. Sam Brownback visited five cities in northeast Ohio to campaign for Romney. But officials in the state GOP and Democratic Party acknowledge that the campaign has been most active for months in shuttling supporters of either candidate to the battleground states of Colorado and Iowa.

Former Gov. John Carlin, a Democrat who held the office from 1979 to 1987, said the low visibility of the campaign will hurt Obama, just as it hurt Democratic incumbent Jimmy Carter in 1980.

Carter received nearly 45 percent of the vote in 1976, the best showing of any Democrat after Johnson, but saw his percentage fall to 33 percent four years later. Carlin noted that just as Obama did in 2008, Carter emerged from a competitive nominating contest in 1976.

"He came to Kansas and worked Kansas," said Carlin, now a visiting professor of political science at Kansas State University. "Democrats felt like they were part of the race."

But Obama also has become a central figure in Kansas campaigns for conservative Republicans. In 2010, the year the federal health care law passed, Brownback led the GOP's first sweep of all statewide and congressional races on the ballot since Johnson's year, 1964, and Republicans expanded their legislative majorities.

This year, Brownback's allies ousted moderate GOP state senators in August primary races, partly by suggesting the incumbents were too soft in their opposition to the federal health care law and its mandate that most individuals buy health insurance, starting in 2014. Conservatives are targeting incumbent Democratic legislators by tying them to Obama.

"It's reasonable to predict that Romney will pass the 60 percent mark," said Secretary of State Kris Kobach, a conservative Republican and former law professor who's served as an informal adviser to the Romney campaign on immigration issues. "In 2008, we didn't have an exact picture of what Obamacare would look like."

Retiring Kansas House Speaker Mike O'Neal, a conservative Hutchinson Republican who's also CEO of the Kansas Chamber of Commerce, said Romney's clear victory in the first presidential debate earlier this month energized Kansas supporters. O'Neal acknowledged some Republicans feared apathy in the face of Romney's sure victory in the Sunflower State.

"We didn't want people to stay at home saying, 'Romney doesn't need my vote,'" O'Neal said.

Voter registration figures show a shift in Kansas away from the Democratic Party since Obama took office. The number of Republicans has grown since 2008, as has the number of voters with no affiliation. The number of Democrats has declined by about 45,000, dropping the party to about 25 percent of the state's 1.74 million registered voters, a smaller percentage than unaffiliated voters.

Kansas House Minority Leader Paul Davis, a Lawrence Democrat, said he's expecting Obama to receive roughly 35 percent of the vote in Kansas this year.

"Republicans in Kansas have been kicking him around for four years," Davis said.


hyperinflate 5 years, 7 months ago

And the purpose for this article is?

BTW, there's a picture of a dude in a KU cap fist-bumping Obama on the CNN website as I write this.

beatrice 5 years, 7 months ago

If calling Obama an "affirmative action" President isn't what the moderator calls "racially tinged," then I don't know what is.

Orwell 5 years, 7 months ago

Yes. Obama's comment was an analysis of a single individual's character, using a commonly-heard epithet applied to someone who changes positions with the wind. Not even in the same dimension with an obvious dog-whistle racial slur. Deny it all you want; no one but other bigots believe the denial.

Pastor_Bedtime 5 years, 7 months ago

Your racist comment needs pulled. "Affirmative action" president? Islama? Your true colors show strongly, and every time you post racist crap like that you sow seeds that'll shake the Teabagger stronghold on Kansas for years to come. Time for patriots from both parties make a stand against you and your bigotry. Many are planning to register Republican, vote moderate in the primaries and choose from the lesser of evils in the main elections to come.

Pastor_Bedtime 5 years, 7 months ago

Well lord knows if a woman's not attractive to you, she's of no value then to society. In otherwords, a typical Republican response, as women are here merely for the pleasure of their male overlords. As for myself ~ there's no need to strut and flex my masculinity for the likes of you and your Teabagging cohorts.

gccs14r 5 years, 7 months ago

It would be nice if Electoral College votes were allocated proportionately to the popular vote within states. Then the "guaranteed" states would be less so and we'd not be ignored as much as we are now.

straightforward 5 years, 7 months ago

Or just get rid of the electoral college altogether. Then each of our votes would carry equal weight.

gccs14r 5 years, 7 months ago

If you think the flyover states don't matter now, go to direct election by popular vote and you'll see how much we really don't matter. 75% of the population lives within 300 miles of a coast. That's where all presidential campaigning would take place, and that's who would choose the President. Everyone else could pound sand. I'd rather fix the Electoral College than abandon it.

Armen Kurdian 5 years, 7 months ago

The electoral college must be preserved and in its current form. it preserves the sanctity of the states, as we are a union of states, not of individuals. States have interests, and by going direct popular vote, you eliminate their importance. To take things to an exaggeration, let's say Candidate A won 49 states by 1 vote. But Candidate B won the 50th state by 50 votes. 49 states would have their voices run over by one state, and it doesn't matter if that state is California or Wyoming. The electoral college stops that from happening.

parrothead8 5 years, 7 months ago

Higher taxes? What are you talking about? The Congressional Budget Office and the Tax Policy Center both say you're wrong. Average household tax rates across the country are at their lowest in at least 30 years.

I know you're not swayed in the face of research and facts, though, so carry on with your practice of repeating things enough times that you start to believe them.

Gareth Skarka 5 years, 7 months ago

Thankfully, the red states are a backward minority that don't dictate the direction of the country.

4 more years, chucklehead. Get used to it.

blindrabbit 5 years, 7 months ago

rockchalker52: Isn't it interesting since your time 1952 and mine in 1962 and 1969 how much intelligence has declined to reach Rockchalk's 1977's postings. Too much grade softening at KU and the aftereffects of VietNam, EarthDay, BraBurning, BirthControl, FlowerPower, TurnInTurnOnDropOut and the Nixon/Agnew fiasco.

Pastor_Bedtime 5 years, 7 months ago

You heard it here folks. Romney gets the official endorsement of racists and bigots, who think due political process and our last national election were merely "affirmative action."

Too bad that in Mittens they picked a cardboard guy who spins whichever way the wind blows for a vote and who cannot represent anyone with sufficient leadership and dignity.

Pastor_Bedtime 5 years, 7 months ago

The fact that over years Obama's position on gay marriage has evolved is a reasoned and good thing, and far overdue. I'm sure you'd differ, just like your candidate, who is threatened by the whole notion.

As for your other points ~ I would find that your assessment of many are biased and reduced to little sound bites, much as you've been digesting far too much Clear Channel.

But none of these points detract from the fact that Romney sways in the breeze back in forth on many issues just over the last three months and would return to serve his TeaPub bosses within minutes of taking office.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 7 months ago

The reason they picked a "cardboard guy who spins whichever way the wind blows" is because the people like the Koch's don't WANT someone to govern. They want someone to sign whatever legislation they can get passed that's shoved in front of him. Of COURSE, they want a cardboard cut out. They won't even bother to hide the puppet strings. All he has to be capable of is holding a pen.

costello 5 years, 7 months ago

"Voter registration figures show a shift in Kansas away from the Democratic Party since Obama took office. The number of Republicans has grown since 2008, as has the number of voters with no affiliation."

Quite a few Democrats changed their affiliation in order to vote for moderates in the Republican primary.

Patricia Davis 5 years, 7 months ago

Yes I agree about the guerilla tactics to vote for moderates. However, I think racism is the sorry dark truth of the matter.

Gareth Skarka 5 years, 7 months ago

Well, that and the fact that a lot of Democrats have left ignorant backwaters like Kansas, so that they can go live in actual First-World locations that exist in the 21st century.

Liberty275 5 years, 7 months ago

The crux pf the biscuit is the apostrophe.


ThePilgrim 5 years, 7 months ago

I voted my conscience - libertarian. If my vote "doesn't count" since Romney will easily win Kansas, then at least I won't have to vote for either candidate because he's not "the other guy". Which is what this election is all about.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 5 years, 7 months ago

The president will win. Even though tea bag soaked Kansas voters only understand that we need to dump the black dude in the Ehite House, most people nanionally recognize the peril to Social Security, Medicare, Women's rights, and other issues, Kansans have elected Brownback who made a greadstand affair of a "prayer meeting" with equally disconnecgted Govderner Hair of Texas. They have elected Kris Kobach, who's vendetta on all citizens that might not vote for the facist party should be disenfranchised. They elected two of the most useless senators in state history.

Bottom line, Kansas voters are now, have been for years, and will be for the forseeable future, rural, addled, bucholic and just plain devoted to their prejudices and bigotry.

Orwell 5 years, 7 months ago

A pack of lies straight from the "journalists" at Fox News.

Getaroom 5 years, 7 months ago

Pete and Repeat where sitting on a log, Pete fell off, who was left? FAUX NUZ! Repeat a pack of lies, get a pack of lies. Hmmmm, good imitation of Willard actually.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 5 years, 7 months ago

My "spell check" is fogged up by my need to get my eyeglass prescription checked. The type on my screen is very small and my 68 year old eyesight is beginning to let me down in "spellclhecking" my posts. My most humble regrets to you all.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 5 years, 7 months ago

My spell check is fogged up by my need to get my eyeglass prescription checked. My 68 year old eyesight is having difficulty with the very small text on this forum, so I am deeplly sorry to have offended your snesibilities with my typos.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 7 months ago

And thus did the sound of moaning and micturition ascend from the disappointed progressives. And it was highly amusing.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 7 months ago

Dear Kansas,
How does it feel to know that your puny little 6 electoral votes mean squat?
Kansas? The rest of the country could not care any less if the Koch's own you.
You're the laughing stock of the entire WORLD; the one that people in other countries hold up as the prime example of ignorance and country bumpkinism.
You are the Mediterranean and Baltic Avenue on the rest of the country's Monopoly board.
And the state's citizens are bound and determined to keep it that way. How sad.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 7 months ago

I'm 60 years old, was born and raised in Kansas and spent all but ten years of it in the state. I spent my entire primary and secondary education in one school district and my entire post secondary education in Kansas colleges and universities. My family has deep roots in the state, dating back to the 1800's. My grandmother lost her first husband to the lead mines in SE Kansas and my great grandfather was the sheriff of Galena. My parents are buried in Galena next to my father's parents, who are buried next to THEIR parents. I would pit my right to be called a "Kansan" against you and anybody else that lives there.
There was a time in my life I was PROUD to be from that state. Not anymore. And you had better believe I'm bitter at what the state has become to make the conscious choice to reject that heritage. Trust me, it wasn't done lightly.

Liberty275 5 years, 7 months ago

"How does it feel to know that your puny little 6 electoral votes mean squat?"

It feels like a fair number of votes considering this state is a cornfield attached to the Kansas City Metro Area.

But it sounds like you have invested way too much of yourself in a political party and there is a chance that party will lose. It's like you are shrieking.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 7 months ago

"It feels like a fair number of votes considering this state is a cornfield attached to the Kansas City Metro Area."
Oh this is just too funny, considering that electoral votes have nothing to do with the "KC Metro area". Wichita is the largest city in the state. Colorado, which is three fourths uninhabitable mountains, has 9 electoral votes.
In 1936 Kansas had 9 electoral votes. The 6 it has now is an indication of the population flight from and "brain drain" on the state. It's also an indication that the people that have been left behind aren't exactly the "best quality".
This isn't "shrieking", it's the hard cold truth. And the general consensus is, in terms of what it has now, is that the state has the government it deserves and no one else cares. Well, doesn't care until the state comes along and does something else goofy to give the rest of the country a black eye on the world stage.
Even Dolph Simons is not the William Allen White of his dreams. He's a big fish in a tiny little mud hole in the back yard of the rest of the nation. And it's fast drying up.

Liberty275 5 years, 7 months ago

So we should have 9 puny votes?

"The 6 it has now is an indication of the population flight"

You can't blame people for wanting to get out of this land of boredom and then more boredom.

"This isn't "shrieking""

It sounded like shrieking to me.

Liberty275 5 years, 7 months ago

The left sounds especially hateful in this thread.

beatrice 5 years, 7 months ago

Well thank goodness it is exclusive to this thread.

The right looks expecially disappearededed on this thread, if that is any indication of the hatred being spewed.

Liberty275 5 years, 7 months ago

It's the pelvic thrust that really drives them insane.

tomatogrower 5 years, 7 months ago

"Secretary of State Kris Kobach, a conservative Republican and former law professor who's served as an informal adviser to the Romney campaign on immigration issues. "In 2008, we didn't have an exact picture of what Obamacare would look like.""

Obama didn't know what the health care reform would look like in 2008. He and other advisors worked to put it together following the Massachusetts plan, and working with the insurance companies and those Republicans whose number 1 goal wasn't to make him a 1 term president, instead of helping our country.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 7 months ago

--- In 1980 the republican party began being transformed into the Rt Wing Libertarian Neocon Fundamentalist Tea Party for Economic Terrorism. Which required removing republicans from the republican party yet still posing as republicans.

--- As a result registered republicans such as myself have been forced from the party as well.

--- Funding for the Economic Terrorism Party has been provided for the last 32 years by Wal-Mart / Exxon Mobil / Corrections Corporation of America / AT&T / Pfizer Pharmaceuticals / Time Warner Cable / Comcast / Verizon / Phillip Morris International / Koch Industries. In addition to being assisted through a host of right-wing think tanks and foundations.

--- Introducing The Architects









--- Fraudulent republicans cost the USA our economy, jobs,homes and retirement plans.

JackMcKee 5 years, 7 months ago

I'd be shocked if Obama received more than 5% of the vote outside of Douglas and Wyandotte Counties. This is a state that elected Brownback and Kobach, two morons that couldn't get elected to a school board in most states.

bd 5 years, 7 months ago

can you say-LANDSLIDE!

Tea anyone????

Pastor_Bedtime 5 years, 7 months ago

No matter the outcome at the national level, I'd encourage free-thinkers both within our state and nationwide to get out and vote ~ it's such a simple thing to do, but at the same time incredibly threatening to many whose goal is to disqualify or intimidate those whose demographics don't match up with Republicans' concept of good citizens. Even if the state may vote to elect Romney, voting is empowering and liberating, much like reducing the amount of Sage in your diet.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 7 months ago

The finger-pointing on the sinister side of the aisle has already begun. "...Some Democrats are apparently not waiting for Barack Obama to lose the presidential election before starting the inevitable recriminations about whose fault it was. Whether writing strictly on his own hook or as a result of conversations with campaign officials, New York Times political writer Matt Bai has fired the first shot in what may turn out to be a very nasty battle over who deserves the lion’s share of the blame for what may turn out to be a November disaster for the Democrats. That the Times would publish a piece on October 24 that takes as its starting point the very real possibility that the president will lose, and that blame for that loss needs to be allocated, is astonishing enough. But that their nominee for scapegoat is the man who is almost certainly the most popular living Democrat is the sort of thing that is not only shocking, but might be regarded as a foretaste of the coming battle to control the party in 2016. Bai’s choice for the person who steered the president wrong this year is none other than former President Bill Clinton, who has widely been credited for having helped produce a post-convention boost for the Democrats..."

Flap Doodle 5 years, 7 months ago

Why, yes it is. And this will be the only time I'll post this text.

beatrice 5 years, 7 months ago

How about your photoshoped image that trivializes the killing of Americans to make your political point? How many times now have you posted that repugnant image?

beatrice 5 years, 7 months ago

You begrudge people with disabilities? Would that include injured vets? Wow.

beatrice 5 years, 7 months ago

So in other words, you can't defend your attack against those with disabilities.

Guess the conservative view is that people should always just fend for themselves, even injured vets. Brilliant.

And please, I've NEVER stalked you. While I might contradict your false statements, I simply don't care enough about what you have to say to bother stalking you.

Charlie Bannister 5 years, 7 months ago

Ah yes, the land of aaahhhs. I love this little red state and I will live here until I draw my last. Conservativism, common sense, largely God fearing, and constantly laughing at liberals and their failed policies. They are truly comic relief. Hey O'Bummer, don't let the door hit you in the posterior on the way back to Chicago, or Hawaii, or Kenya, or wherever you are going when you lose!!

Richard Heckler 5 years, 7 months ago

--- Mitt Romney recently told a community that its' Jeep industry was about to move operations to China.

--- Implying he would save it coming from a man who has made millions upon millions of dollars putting USA industry into big debt then moving those jobs to China. For about 30 years this has been the Romney/Bain industry. The Leveraged Buyout Industry.

--- Thus far the Mitt Romney liar is still lying. Chrysler Corp has been issuing statements countering this Romney lie.

--- Where did Delco-Remy go which is a division of GM? Thanks to Romney Delco-Remy went to China at a loss of 25,000 USA jobs.


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