Archive for Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Town Talk: On the lookout for buried soldiers at Ninth and N.H.; does a one-block bike lane do any good?; fees for new electric golf carts on the rise at Eagle Bend

October 24, 2012


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News and notes from around town:

• It is nearing Halloween after all, so maybe a discussion about grave sites would be appropriate.

Just like how opponents of the South Lawrence Trafficway have concerns that the road may disrupt unmarked — and also unconfirmed — graves of Indian children, opponents of a multi-story hotel at Ninth and New Hampshire also have grave site concerns.

Indian burial sites aren’t the issue at the southeast corner of Ninth and New Hampshire. Instead, the concern with some is that soldiers or other victims of Quantrill’s raid could be buried on the site.

The issue isn’t a new one. The idea that grave sites are in the area was brought up by some opponents of the project and was raised with city commissioners. I also did some research on the subject early on in the process, but it was difficult to determine what was local lore vs. something with some historical basis behind it.

I felt like the best source for the article should be the state archeologist. I talked with a representative of that office and was told they were aware of the concerns but hadn’t yet found any evidence related to burials at the site.

That is still the case today, but unbeknownst to me, state archeologist Robert Hoard did send a letter to city officials in March stating he would like to discuss the “possibility of conducting test excavations to prove or refute the alleged presence of unmarked burials on this lot.”

Those tests never happened. My understanding is the city simply forwarded the letter to the development group, I guess with the thought that it would be up to the property owner to consent to the testing.

I don’t know if that is necessarily the case or not. City officials place conditions of approval on projects all the time. It would seem, but I’m not certain, that the city’s Historic Resources Commission or the City Commission could have added a condition that the testing occur before a site plan for the property be approved.

I could understand why city officials may think that would be inappropriate if the concerns were based only on “neighborhood stories” of graves. But when the state archeologist asked for the testing, I could see how that may have taken the issue to a different level.

The letter from the state archeologist said his research did find a 1903 Kansas University master’s thesis by Lizzie Goodnight that stated “a number of people killed during Quantrill’s raid were buried in the foundation trench of a church that was under construction at the time.”

The archeologist’s research also found a deed that shows St. Luke AME church had purchased a lot at Ninth and New Hampshire just 10 days before Quantrill’s raid in August 1863.

Bill Fleming, an attorney for the hotel’s development group, confirmed testing did not occur on the site, but he said the group is well aware of the laws it must follow if evidence of a grave is found during the construction process.

“I would be very surprised if we run into anything like that,” Fleming said. “But if we do, all the appropriate procedures spelled out in state law will be followed.”

Those procedures basically say construction in the vicinity of the burials must cease until the state’s Unmarked Burial Sites Preservation Board can make a decision about whether to remove the burials or leave them in place.

I think some folks are under the assumption that burials at that site would mean the corner would have to forever be a grassy lot. (Actually, it is gravel right now.) That may be the way it works on TV shows, but I don’t think it happens that way very often in the real world. (Now, if a member of the Brady Bunch family finds an ancient Hawaiian idol there, watch out. Come on, everybody knows that episode.)

But no doubt, discovery of graves at the site would be a significant twist — and probably delay — for a project that already has created a lot of debate.

By the way, I tried to get in touch with state archeologist Robert Hoard this morning to find out more about the testing issue, but he is out for much of the week.

• If Lawrence attorney Todd Thompson would have had an ancient Hawaiian idol that wards off city commissioners who want to take away the public parking from in front of his Ninth Street office building, he would have waved it at last night’s City Commission meeting.

As we previously mentioned, commissioners are considering adding a center turn lane and bike lanes to the stretch of Ninth Street between Kentucky and Tennessee. But to do so, they will have to remove the four parallel parking spaces that are in front of Thompson’s law office building.

Last night’s city commission went so late that I didn’t have a chance to report on what happened with that issue. Basically commissioners want to study it some more.

The most interesting part of what comes next will be what type of message commissioners send about bike lanes and traffic flow.

Thompson argued that a bike lane on the southern side of Ninth Street makes little sense for this portion of the street. That’s because the one block portion just to the west of this section already has recently been redone. It had a bike lane added to the north side of the street but did not have one added to the south side.

The one-block portion just east of this section isn’t likely to have a bike lane on the south side anytime soon because when Intrust Bank built its new bank at Ninth and Vermont streets several years ago, it changed the layout of the corner so that a pedestrian bulb extends out into the street where a bike lane would be located. That relatively new project would have to be removed to accommodate a bike lane.

In other words, this will be a one-block bike lane. Thompson argued that makes no sense, especially given that parking must be removed to create it.

City Commissioner Mike Dever also questioned the value of a one-block bike lane.

“I’m trying to figure out what we gain by having a bike lane for one block on the south side of the street” Dever said. “I’m all for putting in bike lanes, but they need to be in spots where they make a real difference.”

But commissioners did hear from one bicyclist who said every foot of bike lane in the city is an improvement. Lawrence bicyclist Mike Myers said having a place to get out of traffic, even if it is just for a block, is a big deal to a bicyclist.

We’ll see what happens. I still think Thompson is going to need a magic idol or something to save those parking spots. The city says even if the south side bike lane is removed, the road still won’t be wide enough to accommodate both a center turn lane and a north side bike lane. Engineers said that is why they proposed the south side bike lane because the design had a strip that wasn’t wide enough to accommodate parking but was wide enough to accommodate a bike lane.

Commissioners all seemed to agree the center turn lane is needed to help improve traffic safety.

• Maybe golf carts are the answer. If they are, the answer is soon going to cost you $1 more at the city’s Eagle Bend Golf Course.

As we previously reported, the city recently made the switch from gasoline powered golf carts to electric powered carts. The city expects to save some money on fuel for the carts, but they’re really not quite sure how much yet, especially as gasoline prices have dropped a bit.

What they do know is that the lease contract for the golf carts is about $13,000 more per year than the gasoline carts were. The city’s old lease rate was based on prices from eight years ago, and no matter what Ben Bernanke says, there has been inflation. (The Fed always ignores golf cart inflation. It’s a Wall Street conspiracy.)

So, city commissioners last night approved a $1 increase in golf cart rates. They’re now $6 for nine holes and $11 for 18 holes on the weekday, and $12 for nine and $17 for 18 holes on the weekend.

That’s OK as long as the price includes the Energizer Bunny following us around with spare batteries for the cart. That will be a necessity when my buddy and I go golfing. He gets his money’s worth on a golf course.


just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 5 months ago

Anyone who spends money for anything, anywhere in this country is paying for the streets and the highways. When you buy your avocados and kumquats at Dillon's, a huge percentage of the price paid goes towards the costs of shipping them, which include taxes for streets and highways. When you go to the doctor, or hire a lawyer, a certain percentage of the fees you pay them go towards not only buying whatever vehicles they drive and the roads they drive on, but for every delivery and service vehicle and the roads they drive on that enable them to do their jobs.

The costs of roads and highways are so thoroughly integrated into the economic fabric that the notion that people who don't own cars don't pay for the streets and highways is complete BS. In fact, the exact opposite is closer to the truth-- people who don't own cars actually subsidize those who do.


PhilChiles 1 year, 5 months ago

I would like to go on record right now as being in favor of any and all golf-related rate increases, tax hikes, etc., no matter the size or duration. Until they bring back plaid pants.


Richard Heckler 1 year, 5 months ago

gasoline powered vehicles require a ton of tax dollar subsidies = very large tax dollar budget item. $200-$300 million for the SLT alone just for construction.

cyclists do pay road taxes each time they buy gas. however buying gas does not dictate what type of vehicle to put on the road.

the fewer cars the fewer road repairs and a whole lot less resurfacing. bicycles do not injure roadways.

for every mile of 4 lane roadway a community can build an estimated 250 miles of bike/pedestrian lanes/trails which would make lawrence quite an attractive community.
500-750 miles of pedestrian/cycling "trails" would make Lawrence one of the safest communities in the USA. Do it for the children and senior citizen cyclists.

with safer cycling todd thompson and mike dever would probably bike to work and play. mike dever is no stranger to bicycles. if my memory serves me well i believe he cycled in the chicago area suburbs.


Liberal 1 year, 5 months ago

The Bike tax or toll to pay for improvements that ONLY benefit people on bikes is a great idea. I do plan on doing my part and putting one foot of a bike lane in front of my office y'all come over and see it! I appreciate how much you appreciate my contribution to the biking community!

With all of the money that bikers save by not having car payments insurance, repairs, property taxes and fuel, I think about about $750.00 per month per bike owned seems about right for the tax..


Benjamin Roberts 1 year, 5 months ago

"(Now, if a member of the Brady Bunch family finds an ancient Hawaiian idol there, watch out. Come on, everybody knows that episode.)" The original "jumping the shark".


autie 1 year, 5 months ago

Now to speak to the grave issue. This...will not be popular. But I say burial and graves are an ingnorant waste of space and the spirtual aspect is for the living, not the dead. They are dead so they won't care one bit. I would fully support composting my dead a** or maybe leave my body to science for whatever. But all that sacred ground spiritual stuff is a bunch of BS....It is dirt, they are dead, and there ain't no sky god waving his hand in approval or disapproval...At no point has any dead person complained about anything that ever happened after they died.


cheeseburger 1 year, 5 months ago

Let the obstructionists who are attempting to slow development by concocting these concerns pay for any and all related inspections and legal matters. If we learned anything at all from Eye, Caron, and Tuschie on the obstruction of the SLT, it's that the people bent on stopping progress by concocting bogus claims ought to be on the hook for the costs associated with their BS.


consumer1 1 year, 5 months ago

You are correct, a whole bunch of PO'ed drivers.


Hooligan_016 1 year, 5 months ago

Doing a block at a time is pretty much how Portland got their bicycle network together. It doesn't seem like much right now, but in 10 years, those little bits add up to something substantial.


muddfoot55 1 year, 5 months ago

If the traffic is bad enough you need a "break" from it, why not get off the bike and walk it down the sidewalk. Good grief...and the last thing they need to do downtown is lose parking spaces. As for a right turn lane, people just need to be a little more patient, please.


Keith Richards 1 year, 5 months ago

Forget a 1 block bike lane and make each lane of traffic a little wider.


NavyVet 1 year, 5 months ago

I suppose a one-block bike lane is nice as Meyers points out - but, only if you must ride on that street. AndI don't see why it's necessary to ride thre. Plenty of parallel and cross streets to take - and stay out of traffic.


justforfun 1 year, 5 months ago

Yet a vast majority of bikers will still run stop signs and traffic lights, or bike all the way to the front of the line at stop light and stop signs. Bike lanes are great, however following the rest of the traffic laws might benefit you better.

"Lawrence bicyclist Mike Myers said having a place to get out of traffic, even if it is just for a block, is a big deal to a bicyclist. "


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