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14-year-old Lecompton girl sues Brownback administration over CO2 emissions

October 19, 2012

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— A 14-year-old northeast Kansas girl has sued Gov. Sam Brownback's administration in hopes of forcing it to impose limits on carbon dioxide emissions.

Samantha Farb of Lecompton filed the lawsuit Thursday through her parents in Shawnee County District Court. It's part of campaign launched last year by environmentalists to file such lawsuits in all 50 states.

The effort is led by a nonprofit Oregon group called Our Children's Trust.

The Kansas girl's lawsuit argues there's a public trust for the state in protecting the atmosphere and fighting global warming from manmade greenhouse gases such as CO2.

Named as defendants are Brownback, the state Department of Health and Environment and the agency's secretary. A KDHE spokeswoman said the agency has not seen the lawsuit.

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oldbaldguy 1 year, 5 months ago

after having seconds on chili the other night, i should have sued myself. oregon might as well be sweden.

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roadwarrior 1 year, 5 months ago

They issued a permit on current law. samatha is working to have the law expanded giving the supreme court teeth to deny it. Very cool samantha. Best of luck.

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Clark Coan 1 year, 5 months ago

The organization is staffed by four young women in Eugene, Oregon. Wonder where they are getting their money. Maybe they have an anti-Koch donor. Since the Kansas Supreme Court issued a decision supporting the issuance of a license for Holcomb coal-fired plant, I suspect they will rule against this lawsuit.

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Water 1 year, 5 months ago

Since my sarcasm wasn't clear, I hope Samantha's efforts result in policies and actions designed to reduce Carbon Dioxide emissions. I much prefer to take action where I can, to reduce my carbon footprint rather than being involved in political activism. Coincidentally, did you know wetlands are adept at absorbing oodles of carbon dioxide from the air? I know, I know, the plan is to develop another wetland area....good idea.

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1 year, 5 months ago

"Looks to me like just pure cynicism. No thanks."

It's actually rather liberating. Once one comes emotionally to grips with the fact that no matter who is in office, they are not able to solve your problems, one can put political worries behind. Living in a nation and an age that is consumed by politics and the pursuit of power, it's a load off one's mind and very good for the digestion.

Consider what the average True Believer has to go through when problems don't get solved. If one starts with presumption that politicians have the power to solve problems, then the fact that they don't get solved involves one of two possibilities: Either the person not solving them is a bad person who does bad things with bad intentions, or the person is being hindered by those kinds of people. We hear this all the time. "Evil Obama is wrecking the country." "Obama would have fixed the country but for those evil Republicans." Most of our modern political rancor comes from the fact that True Believers have to believe their opponents evil, because who but an evil person would purposely get in the way of solving problems? It's not a matter of policy prescriptions; modern politics is a ubiquitous morality play, a replacement religion, a life-and-death struggle against wicked enemies who must be destroyed.

However, as soon as one accepts the fact that Obama cannot fix the country and can't fix the economy, that he can't make all the children above average nor make foreigners love us, then one is free to go about fixing the things that one can personally fix. I'm not at all kidding when I say, for example, that people who support public radio ought to simply step up and support it. I support it with my own money. But political people who think that everyone ought to support it have to fight with political people who disagree. And in the meantime, 90% percent of the people who listen don't support it - they apparently think being on the correct side of the battle politically is enough. It's a very poor way to go about business.

Once one accepts that the nation-state has probably fulfilled its potential and is in terminal decline, one can accept that Obama is a decent guy and that Bush is a decent guy and that even Bernanke is a decent guy (well, maybe) - they are, in fact, good guys who do bad things with good intentions - without having the deal with the cognitive dissonance of a Merrill or a SageonPage. I'd rather be honest about the limits of all politicians and their power than be forced by binary political morality to defend Mitt or Obama or Bush or Clinton just because my political opponents are attacking them.

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Les Blevins 1 year, 5 months ago

I would just like to second Merrill's position; Thank you Samantha, and thank you Mom and Dad for bringing forth genuine concern for our children to our community.

We polluters do not own the environment or planet earth

We are borrowing from our children and degrading their future by our selfishness.

If you agree with this position please find and 'like' my 14 year old son's PLANET DOCTORS page on Facebook.

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verity 1 year, 5 months ago

Oh, these young people today---they should all have to walk a 100 miles to school with only barbed wire for shoes, like I did. That'd learn'em.

One young woman trying to get involved in the world she inhabits sure has brought out a lot of viciousness. A 14-year-old can have thoughts of their own---I suspect any parent would agree with that.

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lunacydetector 1 year, 5 months ago

this girl's parents should buy her a carbon cookie credit

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MasOuAn3 1 year, 5 months ago

I type words on my pc computer ..... it uses 10-12 kWh a day ... YAY!!!!!!! I'm Helping

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Water 1 year, 5 months ago

I say we strive to impregnate every human female on earth to catapult the earth's population as fast as possible. Then, like bacteria in a petri dish, we will be forced to eat ourselves. Perhaps this will create vast numbers of serious mutations leading to vast numbers of new species and all will be right with the world. Ahhhh! Lots of sex! Continued complacency! Increased genetic diversity. Everyone wins!

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jonas_opines 1 year, 5 months ago

Gadhelyn asked: "I just want to know what's the issue with upgrading facilities to reduce CO2 emissions? Is it the lack of belief in the science? Is it the price tag? I'd think the price tag issue would be put at the wayside for right now. I would think making and installing the upgrades to reduce emissions would create jobs, put more money into the economy, especially if the upgrades were kept to materials made in America. Don't even have the gov't pay for it, have the companies do it. They pay for materials, they pay for new jobs."

This is the sector I currently work in, and I talk to these sorts of decision makers, and yes, it is absolutely the price tag. Depending on what compliance needs a facility might have (and it's NOT just CO2 emissions that they are legally mandated to worry about) the purchase and integration of control equipment can range from the $15,000 range to several million dollars. While a large corporation can eat this kind of expense, for smaller facilities (which are much more numerous in totality but get 0 press because they don't include names like Koch), they don't have the option to, as you put it, put this cost to the wayside.

Controlling the emission of pollutants, in some fashion, to create a livable and non-toxic environment is important, in my opinion, but at the same time, it should be understood that these regulations (potentially most regulations, period), create a playing field that makes it much more difficult for smaller organizations to compete against the monstercorps.

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autie 1 year, 5 months ago

So the kid believes in something good, and rightous..and the right wing morons have to come out and complain...becauses somebody belives in something. Hat tip to the kid....Hat tip to the parents. the rest of you haters should be ashamed of your narrow minded, uninformed stupid thinking. Right on Samantha...keep on rockin in the free world..

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blindrabbit 1 year, 5 months ago

Forgot to add a comment about Oklahoma Senator James Mountain Inhofe in my prior about him, he the champion of refuting anything to due with Climate Change/Global Warming based on his well founded interpretation of the biblical passages and denial of science. Inhofe never met an oil spill that he did not like, kinda like the Beverly Hillbillys and Jeb Clampet (Texas tea), it's all dollars to him. Drove through Oklahoma last week and the State looks like it has been visited by the poxes of drought and elevated temperature over the last several years, things look dried-up , blown-away and vegetation dying, but Sooners and Cowboys doin' fine. Inhofe's time will eventually come when he is at the River Styx (oily) and Charon will float by with a gas mask and a Tyvek suit asking if his interfering of environmental regulations was in his best interest.

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oneeye_wilbur 1 year, 5 months ago

Why didn't the Associated Press give the names of the parents or did the J/W deliberately leave out the names??

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oneeye_wilbur 1 year, 5 months ago

Will she sue her parents for emissons from their vehicles? Oh , let me guess, they ride bicycles and use push lawn mowers.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 5 months ago

She should sue the USEPA as well. They had a mandate to declare CO2 and regulate it's levels but backed off due to political pressure and the weak economy.

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Constitutional_Malfeasance 1 year, 5 months ago

This latest stunt by environmental extremists does not even deserve comment.

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ShePrecedes 1 year, 6 months ago

While I am NOT a fan of Brownback, quite the opposite, I am not convinced that CO2 is a bad thing. They adjusted the near-century-old data on the hottest place on the earth. It stqands to reason that the initial research on CO2 needs to be heavily scrutinized, and subsequently adjusted if the data is incorrect. But can it still be found? I doubt it. Before you go spouting your partisan bullhockey, I do not read from anti-anthropogenic climate change sites. I merely watch the research recently released affecting this issue zooming by us at light speed paces, including the recent discovery of a lava planet (can you say hot, hot, hot?) just outside our solar system, while it is my understanding that the entire solar system is getting hotter.

Yet another reason to be sitting IN the aisle and on the fence.

However I do love the anthropogenic-climate change remedies, just to cut into the greed of big business, which I hate with a marked passion.

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Armstrong 1 year, 6 months ago

The eco-taliban is recruiting younger and younger I see

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Centerville 1 year, 6 months ago

Nothing like dragging your child through this so you can get some publicity. This is so sad in so many ways.

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Liberty275 1 year, 6 months ago

It's nice to see young people active in politics.

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UltimateGrownup 1 year, 6 months ago

Filing suit against the Brownback Administration for not following some hip liberal trend? Might as well sue Brownback for not putting a "coexistence" bumper sticker on his car or not getting a nose ring. The Brits say global warming ended 16 years ago: http://www.dailymail.com/Opinion/DonSurber/201210160177. The funny thing about global warming is that the movement's shamans avoid study of the only thing that really does affect global temperatures -- the sun. It's like a study of Babe Ruth that omits the baseball thing.

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Michael Rowland 1 year, 6 months ago

I just want to know what's the issue with upgrading facilities to reduce CO2 emissions? Is it the lack of belief in the science? Is it the price tag? I'd think the price tag issue would be put at the wayside for right now. I would think making and installing the upgrades to reduce emissions would create jobs, put more money into the economy, especially if the upgrades were kept to materials made in America. Don't even have the gov't pay for it, have the companies do it. They pay for materials, they pay for new jobs.

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Michael Rowland 1 year, 6 months ago

Here's an idea, since everyone seems so up at arms about what the data says about the impact of humans on climate change (EVERYONE must have PhDs in climatology and their own labs and such), why not say "We don't know if we're causing any of it, we can't agree on it, but how about we err on the side of safety and go ahead and control our emissions, work on clean energy, etc. That way if we're not the cause, nothing happens, but if we are, then we're helping the environment."

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Currahee 1 year, 6 months ago

How about we all hold our breaths 10 minutes a day because we're all contributing to greenhouse gas emissions.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

Thank you Samantha for doing the right thing. You are a pacesetter go for it. Thank you Mom and Dad for bringing your brilliant children to our community.

We polluters do not own the environment or planet earth

We are borrowing from our children...

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UfoPilot 1 year, 6 months ago

They should turn the electricity off to her house .

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blindrabbit 1 year, 6 months ago

Interesting to see all dittoheaded deniers drifting out of the carboniferous muck. This group has as their champion, the right-wing, religiously whacked-out U.S. Senator from our neighbor to the South (Oklahoma) in the person of James Mountain Inhofe.Dripping in oil and gas revenues and owned by the likes of the Koch-a-Kolas. This young lady has the foresight to try to protect her generation from the excesses of the greedy carbon gassifiers, and what does she get but a bunch of T-Baggers ranting and denying what is common knowledge.

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somedude20 1 year, 6 months ago

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Clickker 1 year, 6 months ago

Good Grief. Whoever her parents are, they should be flogged for using thier daughter this way.

Good luck with this Samantha, when you go apply for a job and they ask "have you ever been party to any lawsuit...." etc.

Of course, if you go to work for the Oregon Group that is behind this, you should have no problem.

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atiopatioo 1 year, 6 months ago

Why are these parents treating their child inhumanly? This is a terrible way to treat young impressionable minds. Child abuse is not right even if it is their parents.

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kernal 1 year, 6 months ago

She should also sue China and India.

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75x55 1 year, 6 months ago

Cause?

Lame publicity stunt. And lame parents for using their child for cheap political theatrics.

And lame Larryvillians hooting and hollering from the sidelines to promote this nonsense.

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CWGOKU 1 year, 6 months ago

Why is Oregon concerned about the air in Kansas? Prevailing westerlies and all...

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1 year, 6 months ago

Outstanding!

Way to go!

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xyz 1 year, 6 months ago

Go, Samantha!!

JWorld staff--Do a story and interview Samantha, please!

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