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Group criticizes Koch brothers; urges Brownback to change course

October 12, 2012


— A group opposed to policies pushed by the Koch brothers made a stop Friday at the Statehouse to deliver a letter to Gov. Sam Brownback, urging him to denounce the "Greed Agenda." A spokeswoman for Koch industries said the group, called the Patriot Majority USA, was being dishonest and that the Koch brothers supported economic freedom.

A group called Patriot Majority USA pulled up in its anti-Koch bus at the Statehouse on Friday.

A group called Patriot Majority USA pulled up in its anti-Koch bus at the Statehouse on Friday.

Sid Voorakkara with Patriot Majority USA delivers letter to Gov. Sam Brownback's office. The group urged Brownback to change his policies.

Sid Voorakkara with Patriot Majority USA delivers letter to Gov. Sam Brownback's office. The group urged Brownback to change his policies.

"It's not too late to change course — to work for a vision that benefits Kansans instead of draining it in favor of a few," the Patriot Majority USA said in its letter. Brownback was in Wichita and his office declined to comment.

The letter denounced Brownback's tax cuts and several other policies embraced by Brownback that have been pushed by groups affiliated with billionaires Charles and David Koch, who run Wichita-based Koch Industries. These groups include Americans for Prosperity and the American Legislative Exchange Council.

The tax cuts will benefit the wealthiest Kansans while draining needed revenues for schools and social services, group members said.

Brownback has defended the tax cuts, saying they will grow the economy, and he has vowed to protect funding for core state services.

Brownback signed into law tax cuts that exempt the owners of 191,000 partnerships, sole proprietorships and other businesses from income taxes, and drop the top individual income tax rate from 6.45 percent to 4.9 percent.

Patriot Majority USA members said they were fighting on the national level and in many states proposals that would do away with the minimum wage, turn Medicare into a voucher program, and weaken unions.

The group, traveling in two buses covered with anti-Koch messages, are on a 23-state tour.

Melissa Cohlmia, a spokeswoman for Koch Industries, said the Patriot Majority was a front group for unions and Democratic leaders.

"Other than the paid operatives on the Patriot Majority bus, there were about 15 people in attendance, which demonstrates that the general public can see through the lies and dishonest attacks being lodged by this group," Cohlmia said.

She said the Kochs support economic freedom "which history has proven time and again is the best way to advance societal progress — especially amongst the poor."


SageonPage 5 years, 6 months ago

Always interesting to see the Left try and hijack icons and words of Conservative America to appear to be what they are not- moderate. This is a leftist organization connected to underground progressive groups. Our Governor was right to ignore these wolves in sheep's clothing. This group of Socialists use the word Patriot and graphic of a soldier of the George Washington era. They pretend to be Veterans and Mt. Rushmore on the website and some semblance of the American flag. Goons going about in chicanery collecting money and attacking real Americans who are honestly trying to right the ship. Don't be fooled by this group and they are someone Scotty would love to promote.

mikekt 5 years, 6 months ago

Their Koch daddy paid for their starts in life with money that was earned from Uncle Joseph Stalin in Russia, in the 30s ,.....Stalin.....not exactly my idea of a capitalist.......nor was he much of an American ally in WW2, until Hitler turned on him.......nor was Joe Stalin a humanitarian as he was was reaching out with hit squads all over the world, if you didn't agree with him in the 30s while daddy was hard at work for him . How could he not know ? The Kochs have short memories when there is money to be made off of flag waiving and calling others socialist names while they play out their agendas in Topeka.

Liberty275 5 years, 6 months ago

"Their Koch daddy paid for their starts in life with money that was earned from Uncle Joseph Stalin in Russia, in the 30s ,.....Stalin.....not exactly my idea of a capitalist"

So if you sell something to a Marxist, it isn't capitalism?

somedude20 5 years, 6 months ago

We must NEVER let the rich become like these people. No worries for people like us since we are accustomed to being serfs, but these people, the ones Brownback is kind enough to help out, well, they don't know what it is like to be nickeled and dimed and living paycheck to paycheck and not being able to afford even the most basic healthcare so we should shield them from that is the human thing to do. I for one would like to thank Samuel Dale Brownback for tackling this problem

scaramouchepart2 5 years, 6 months ago

You said it better than I did. Thanks! But really, how can so many think that they will win by supporting the Koch brothers. How can so many be used happily?

Liberty275 5 years, 6 months ago

Koch industries means Kansas jobs.

How many jobs did the patriot bus bring to Kansas?

Mike1949 5 years, 6 months ago

I hope your being sarcastic, some people I never know. People like SageonPage are easy to figure out, though I wish he would remember to take his medication and see his shrink more often.

scaramouchepart2 5 years, 6 months ago

Underground? Really! Why is a group that try's to protect the US constituent and the life of all Americans always leftist, or far left and underground progressives. What the blazes is the Tea Party, Americans for Prosperity, and so on. These guys are fronts for underground people to fund their greed. Tea Party is to fund legislation for the Koch brothers greed for one. The Koch brothers would rather spend $400 million in funding republican candidates. Imagine how many Americans could have decent paying jobs and benefits for that money. Why are they spending that much - to stop paying decent wages and benefits. The Koch brothers could afford to pay their fair share in taxes. What have they been doing with the tax money and decent wages they should be paying is Cutting corporate taxes, Citizen United giving corporations the right to fund campaigns. While the new slave laborer has to pay their tax share and cannot afford to give campaigns. Underground, the Koch brothers are using people who think they are cutting government for their own means are only giving money so the Koch brothers can get what the Koch brothers want. You guys are just being used.

dwendel 5 years, 6 months ago

"I do not want to live like a Kenyan, riding a bike, going without electricity or fuel so as to play along with the communists who want to redistribute wealth. I'm not lazy, I'm intelligent and get paid for those qualities. There are far too many people who are lazy and dumb who want 'free stuff' rather than earn it on their own."

And yet you live in a town any Kenyan would be ashamed of (seriously, I spent 1.5 secomds driving through it once), your sugar momma pays your bills, and your "job" is watching Fox and Friends and being a loud, angry, factually-challenged "blogger" on a small midwestern newspaper's insignificant (no offense LJW) web site. Keep up the good work. Men like you made America great!

headdoctor 5 years, 6 months ago

We get it Sage. European Socialism bad. Corporate Socialism good.

optimist 5 years, 6 months ago

The Koch brothers don't have policies. They aren't politicians, they are private citizens. They belong to groups that lobby the Governor and legislature. There are tons of groups of this nature out there where money is pooled together. They are PAC's or advocacy organizations, all of which lobby. Some examples are Sierra club, NRA, Hangun Control Inc, AFL-CIO, MoveOn, Organizing for America, The Daily Kos, Citizens United, Freedom's Watch and Freedom Works to name a few from both sides of the spectrum. All of these groups are funded by the wealthy and the working/middle class. We don't pick out individuals from these organizations to demagogue yet their really aren't any different from that perspective. Oppose the positions or what they advocate but to attack the individuals for putting their resources behind a cause is radical in its own right. Those that resort to this type of hateful and divisive characterization usually do so because theylack of ability to articulate their point of view or are averse to share their details of their own beliefs for fear of rejection. Its school yard stuff really.

scaramouchepart2 5 years, 6 months ago

Actually there have been many in our history that have personal agenda's that have used the willing. Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Mussolini, Sadam Hussien. Don't spew your framed verbage without knowing your history. How much business do the Koch brothers do with communist China and Norht Korea? Check Koch Industries, Inc. offices in China. 34 products China Koch Industries. American jobs go to China. Romney does. Check huffington post today.

Paul R Getto 5 years, 6 months ago

You are right about those "job-killing" Koch boys, but it's not fair to compare them to tyrants. Just "biddness" as they say.

headdoctor 5 years, 6 months ago

"I say, good business is where you find it". (Dick Jones) RoboCop

Liberty275 5 years, 6 months ago

Actually there have been many in our history that have personal agenda's that have used the willing. Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Mussolini, Sadam Hussien, Obama.

geekin_topekan 5 years, 6 months ago

Woohoo! Under deregulated kansas I should be able to spray my epoxy-based enamels in my backyard instead of renting that expensive paint booth saving me more money to spend in our local economy. Hope the neighbors don't complain, damned environmentalists anyway!

Plus, I can build an outhouse and save water resources. WooT!

Liberty275 5 years, 6 months ago

How well can you control the drying time of epoxy based resins? Can you use retardants to time 2 or 3 coats to cure together without the coats bleeding into one another? I want about 3/32s base, then about that much clear.

Whats a good primer for wood and epoxy?

What's a good brand of resin that dries clear unless you add pigment?

Also, why would you waste money on paint just so dirt and dust can ruin the finish? There is reason enough to use a booth without even considering the environment.

scaramouchepart2 5 years, 6 months ago

No you obviously do mot know how to spend your money. If you think the Koch brothers care about you and your income, unless your related, forget it. Not even related. There is a brother or two the Kansas boys hate. A fair playing ground is one where the people who have worked for years and finally retire have not lost their retirement funds to greed and are not considered lazy by a presidential candidate. A fair playing ground is a country that has found ways to help take care of those who cannot. A fair playing ground is a country that all who live and work their are paid a decent wage for a docent job and are treated equally. A fair playing ground is a place where people have a chance for an education that lead to fair wages. A fair playing ground does not support developers who take from taxes on the basis of jobs and then only offer jobs that do not support an ability to live in a decent home with some spending cash. A fair playing ground does not ruin a world for immediate greed. You demand your a person who works. Big deal. So have so many you Condemn. You want your children to have a decent life dispite any birth defects and you pay your fair share to help them and others who have children in similar situations. People who work hard and are injured and disabled have earned some support, since the business doesn't pay their far share. As long as companies can afford $ 400 million to fund elections they can afford to treat people as people and not slave labor and provide a decent wage with benefits. Those benefits help keep the employee able to work. Americans are not throw aways. Only useful for work and once no longer productive get rid of them. No matter what you think you too demand from the government either in the future when you retire or become unhealthy after you retired. You think your guys don't abuse the system. The biggest abusers of late have been big business that took bailouts and then abused the money by giving big bonuses. Really a fair playing field. That belongs to all those people you despise. That was my taxes. By the way I am a republican. But I am not a fascist. I I was told if communist envaded the US I was on their hit list. So do tell me I am a communist. There is a middle grown. Where decency is fair and caring makes a better world. You do not support a fair playing ground. You support abuse by the few.

scaramouchepart2 5 years, 6 months ago

Koch industry may pay a few, but they have sent many jobs overseas to AVOID paying decent wages. They pushed Unite Citizen v Federal ... Have you checked all the jobs they provide or only the top few. Only listed were heads or certified. Mostly around 30 to 60 a year. Not great for the average pay in the field. The average iwas 96, but we all know it only takes a handful of highly few to drive the average up. Energy and Utlities start at 14. Many make around 30. I guess they should not start a family. According to the media and David Robinson's own mouth Citizen United they can now intimidate their employees on who to vote for. In the same pamphlet explain wage cuts. The employees in Many states are complaining about both. Relationships between office and employees has "deteriorated sharply" . In 2012 the average dropped to 37 thousand. Now tell me again how happy employees are?

Liberty275 5 years, 6 months ago

I have an idea. Koch Industries employees make more than the unemployed. At least I guess. I don't know how much unemployment is.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 6 months ago

Are any of the usual suspects on this award-winning website members of this group?

dabbindan 5 years, 6 months ago

who do legislators and government officials listen to and respond to more readily? joe sixpack who works at the local machine shop, or wealthy industrialists like the koch brothers. how far has the playing field already been tilted to who's advantage? joe's advantage or the koch brothers? oh, and not in the light of day, but behind the scenes where the deal makers can't be held accountable.

democrats of course can be influenced by the cash and promise of economic benefits, but philosophically they support joe the machinist. conservative republicans give themselves over wholeheartedly to those who already have the advantage.

look at what brownback has done, and will likely try to do: he has decreased the tax burden on the wealthy and small business owners. increased the tax burden on low income earners as well as likely try to extend the sales tax which disproportionately hurts the poor. the single professional pays no tax on his earnings from his business, but the office clerk working for him pays on all their earnings. what do low income people need to lift themselves out of poverty? INCOME. what has brownback reduced for them? INCOME. remember when he said not to worry, they have social services? i thought social services created dependancy, at least that's what the conservative play book maintains.

this tragedy will continue to play itself out. perhaps the pendulum will swing back.

dinglesmith 5 years, 6 months ago

Here's my pledge. I will never vote for anyone - Republican or Democrat - who has never paid a mortgage or rent, or who has never held a job they can be fired from. If you don't know what it means to pay your own way, you have no business running this country.

Liberty275 5 years, 6 months ago

I pay a mortgage and my boss fired me last night after I asked him to. He said it was only for the night though, so I had to show up again today.

Write in "L275". I pay a mortgage and I got fired last night.

Best campaign slogan ever!

5 years, 6 months ago

I never vote for anyone whose parent has held elective office. Weird, I know, but that's just me.

scaramouchepart2 5 years, 6 months ago

Dabbindan. You are correct. Even Obama hired one of the ex CEOs from Goldman Sachs to head our treasury. Goldman Sachs has been one of the most corrupt businessesbsince 1929 and before.

Paul R Getto 5 years, 6 months ago

Some see problems with billionaires like George Soros and those Koch fellows influencing politics? I say Let the unicorns, the antelope and the billionaires play. Billioniares have different opinions too. We can all duke it out at the polls

ictsiege 5 years, 6 months ago

Don't feed the GOP/Libertarian trolls, folks. They're too busy dealing with the cognitive dissonance of the Koch Brothers being just like George Soros but their favorite FOX News talking heads never talk about the Kochs or how they are far more involved in the electoral/policy-making process than Soros (at least here in Kansas, where the trolls live). So it's kind of boring to watch the back and forth between people that know better and people whose brains are chronically overloaded with facts that tell them they are pawns in a rich man's game.

Otherwise: is it too much to ask for the big money 501c3's driving buses through our state to connect with the groups that exist here, on the ground, and are already fighting the big money, big business influence on our state? Feel free to call us when you want to do more than a photo opp for future fundraising, Patriot Majority.

Jack_Lafayette 5 years, 6 months ago

It is always interesting to me that people like SageonPage talk about America and freedom and rights, but the language they employ to disagree with people is always so abusive, negative and condemning. It just seems that if you really believed in America, rights and our freedom that you might be able to disagree in a way that was both more insightful and kind. In any event, if you are a supporter of the Koch brothers or anyone who is a member of their club, you must be the CEO of a major corporation or you have simply not read enough about them. The Koch brothers have no interest in rights or freedom. The Koch brothers are interested in two things: power and money. They do not care about how any of us are able to earn a living or put food on our table. They are not the least bit interested in maintaining a free America. They subscribe to what President Bush once accidentally uttered in reach of a microphone: "this would all be so much easier if it was a dictatorship".

Liberty275 5 years, 6 months ago

"The Koch brothers are interested in two things: power and money.."

Power and money. Got it. Does anyone else want power and money?

"They do not care about how any of us are able to earn a living or put food on our table"

It is none of their business if I'm able to earn a living or put food on my table.

"They are not the least bit interested in maintaining a free America."

Unless they are in the military, it isn't their job to maintain a free America.

You can hate them for all I care, but I have yet to see them do anything illegal. If you know of any illegal activities, I strongly suggest you contact the appropriate authorities.

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