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Editorial: Clear victor

Mitt Romney’s superior performance in the presidential debate should put voters on notice.

October 7, 2012

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According to various television monitoring reports, between 50 million and 60 million Americans watched Wednesday’s presidential debate, and it’s likely the majority of those viewers were surprised by what they saw and heard.

Supporters of President Obama probably were surprised and disappointed that their champion did so poorly, while GOP backers of challenger Mitt Romney were pleased and surprised that he did so well.

This was the first time most of the viewers had the opportunity to see and hear the true former Massachusetts governor, not the filtered version of Romney provided by a biased media and the distorted picture of Romney as depicted in almost $300 million of negative Obama-supporting advertising.

Obama was placed in the difficult and almost impossible position of having to defend or explain his embarrassingly poor record of unemployment numbers, the national debt and the tumbling economic figures facing the majority of Americans. He did a poor, nervous job of trying to sell his administration or leadership of the country without his Teleprompters, speech writers and a forgiving and favorable media.

Romney, by most every poll and review, came off as the winner. The fact is, based on Obama’s record over the past three and a half years, Romney was presented with a very favorable climate going into the debate. He should have won, and he did!

The question now is, what difference will the debate make on voters?

Will significant numbers of Obama supporters pause and say to themselves, “This is a different Romney than I had pictured. Maybe I ought to give more thought to who I am going to vote for.”

Will those who have not made up their minds, independents, say, “I guess I misjudged Romney. He did a far better job than I anticipated. I’m eager to watch the next debate to see if he continues to be so impressive.”

The Romney performance is sure to bolster and invigorate the spirits of those in the GOP who had been concerned their candidate appeared to be weak, uninspiring and ineffective in the weeks before the debate. There will be new energy in the Romney campaign.

Staunch, always loyal Democrats, probably are mad their man did not do a better job and are hoping his trainers, prompters and those schooling him for the next debate will have him better prepared.

The trouble is, Obama has to run on his record. When he sought the office four years ago, he was free to make any and all promises of what he would accomplish if voters would give him four years in the White House. He promised “change” and said he would make fundamental changes in this country if given the opportunity.

He followed through on this pledge! He did make changes — changes for the worse. The country is worse off today, rather than better off.

Obama has enjoyed an easy ride during his three-plus years in the White House. He has not been challenged or debated. The majority of Americans have had an attitude of “let’s give him a chance.” The so-called mainstream media have covered for him and failed to give the complete, unvarnished story to the public.

Obama is sure to come out firing in the next debate, but, again, he has to run on his record and it is not good. Can Romney duplicate his strong, positive efforts in the second debate?

Regardless, will the debates really make that much difference as voters go to the polls? Are the debates too late to make any difference in the minds of those currently voting in states that allow early voting?

Voters have two choices: Vote for Obama for government playing a bigger role in the lives of most every American — more controls, higher unemployment, more food stamps, a larger national debt, higher taxes and higher medical costs. Or vote for Romney, who believes in less government, protecting individual liberty, lowering the national debt, reducing unemployment and improving the lives of and opportunities for those classified as the “middle class.” He also believes state government, and those living in the states, can do a better job of addressing their particular needs than those in Washington. He opposes “Obamacare” and thinks it is wrong for a small group of government-appointed individuals to have the authority to determine what kinds of care will be available to millions of Americans.

Again, there are two entities that should be embarrassed by how they were exposed at the first debate: Obama and the mainstream media for the cover-ups they have perpetrated on the American public.

Comments

begin60 2 years, 2 months ago

It's easy to win using the typical Republican tactic of bald-faced, power-abusing lies! Obama came off as far more honest if less glib and deceptive.

poolside 2 years, 2 months ago

Where is the name associated with this article? I do not care if the writer is a Romney supporter, but hiding behind "JW Editorials" gives license to freer reign with words than putting one's name to it, and also promotes the supposition that all JW employees are Romney supporters. I may use a moniker here but my name can be researched by JW. But we readers cannot do the same for the author of this editorial.

My personal feeling on the debate was Romney showed us the tactic of fillerbustering. He did speak for himself, not his campaign or the media. He absolutely did this when he disrepected the moderator and broke the rules of debate. He absolutely did this when he called the US a Christian nation. He absolutley spoke for himself when he told how he would destroy Medicare- for anyone under 60- as compared to his campaign's complete destruction.

Everyone in the media speaks to his plan/no plan. He spoke his plan. He is enacting his plan even now. Keep the defense budget high. Make our foriegn neighbors angry. Romney's plan to employ our population?-WAR. Plain and simple-war is good business. And Romney is a businessman. But it is a very unpopular campaign promise so he deliberately doesn't state his plan.

It is okay with me if you disagree. That is the beauty of the United States.

Phillbert 2 years, 2 months ago

"Will significant numbers of Obama supporters pause and say to themselves, “This is a different Romney than I had pictured...""

The same could be asked of conservative Romney supporters, considering Mitt spent the entire debate running away from the positions he's taken over the last 2 years as he claimed to be a "severe conservative."

Real Mitt: I love tax cuts so much I'm proposing $5 trillion in them. I hate Romneycare & government regulations

Debate Mitt: I'm not proposing much of a tax cut at all. I also love Romneycare & regulations.

Dolph* hates Obama so much that he's willing to have anyone get elected instead. Which is what makes Romney his perfect candidate - on any day he can be anyone.

  • poolside - This piece is so long and rambling that it is a definite Dolph Original.

Phillbert 2 years, 2 months ago

So you're saying that Romney never proposed a huge tax cut, never opposed his own health care plan and never railed against government regulations. You know there are recordings of him saying all of these things, right? Or are those just "whoppers" too?

Phillbert 2 years, 2 months ago

Ha - your source is a Romney ad. Classic.

Romney says he will cut taxes by 20 percent across the board. That equals $5 trillion. He has not named a single deduction or loophole he would close, though you could close all of them on the rich and it still wouldn't come close to offsetting the cost. (And offsetting the entire cost would both result in huge tax increases on the middle class and generally negate the point of tax cuts anyway, so his plan makes even less sense.)

But go on back to your fantasy world where math is whatever Mitt Romney says it is.

Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

Barry has been called out. No teleprompter, no hand picked crowd of takers to cheer him on, most importantly no record yo run on. When you get to see the true Barry it's not a pretty picture.

Cait McKnelly 2 years, 2 months ago

Nor is it a pretty picture to see the "true Romney" when he can't bus in people for his interviews, like he did for his appearance on Univision; or have campaign contributors that force their employees to show up at Mitt rallies on pain of losing their jobs.
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/08/coal_miners_lost_pay_when_mitt.html
Or how about this little doozy? The so called "Obama defector" ad actor who was, in reality, a Romney campaign staffer.
Keep 'em coming, Armstrong.

repaste 2 years, 2 months ago

"the mainstream media for the cover-ups they have perpetrated on the American public." This is the mainstream media, this and Bain Capital's 1800 radio stations. The myth of mainstream liberal media is old and tired.

Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

"The myth of mainstream liberal media is old and tired." But still very true

bad_dog 2 years, 2 months ago

Obama is an entity? I guess that helps explain the Citizen's United decision...

Getaroom 2 years, 2 months ago

Obama detractor Dolf continues the BS in the fine old tradition of a committed Republican Party member and he too places "Willard The Toad" high on a pillar, as did The Krauthammer. Come on Dolf, sell the LJW to Faux Nuz and be done with it.

Will the real Willard Romney please step forward and take a bow for the fine performance he/she/it put on. Oh, that was the "real" Willard, in that case Lie more and more, it was obviously very popular with the sheeples. Loved the red power tie by the way and lookin' good and soundn' good is what it's all about for those who can only see glitzy makeup and superficiality. Tune-in tomorrow as Willard "Snookie Romney" spins another tale on "The Jersey White House".

Seth Peterson 2 years, 2 months ago

*Ignorance and misinformation! Moving on.

fiddleback 2 years, 2 months ago

The claim is based on a study done by the Tax Policy Center which examined Romney’s proposals for a 20 percent reduction in all federal income tax rates, eliminating the Alternative Minimum Tax, eliminating the estate tax and other tax reductions.

The center estimated that altogether, the lost revenues would total $480 billion by 2015. The Obama campaign adds up the cost over a decade and winds up with $4.8 trillion, which it then rounds up to $5 trillion.

Since Romney hasn't specified what loopholes and credits he would eliminate, it's impossible to know how much to offset the 5 trillion figure. But the idea that it wouldn't add to the deficit, esp. with 2 trillion more in defense spending, is ludicrous.

Flap Doodle 2 years, 2 months ago

Perhaps the current resident of 1600 Penn Ave should have spent less time on the links and more time paying attention to briefings since January 2009.

Centerville 2 years, 2 months ago

My favorite excuse: Romney cheated! He wrote all those numbers on his handkerchief! And the proof: Even our beloved and most brilliant Obama can't memorize that many numbers!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

The US Presidential Debates' Illusion of Political Choice

by Glen Greenwald

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/04/third-party-us-presidential-debate-deceit

Excerpts--

"Wednesday night's debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney underscored a core truth about America's presidential election season: the vast majority of the most consequential policy questions are completely excluded from the process."

"Most of what matters in American political life is nowhere to be found in its national election debates. Penal policies vividly illustrate this point. America imprisons more of its citizens than any other nation on earth by far, including countries with far greater populations. As the New York Times reported in April 2008: "The United States has less than 5% of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners."

"The New Yorker's Adam Gopnik called this mass incarceration "perhaps the fundamental fact [of American society], as slavery was the fundamental fact of 1850"."

"This same dynamic repeats itself in other crucial realms. President Obama's dramatically escalated drone attacks in numerous countries have generated massive anger in the Muslim world, continuously kill civilians, and are of dubious legality at best. His claimed right to target even American citizens for extrajudicial assassinations, without a whiff of transparency or oversight, is as radical a power as any seized by George Bush and Dick Cheney."

"A long list of highly debatable and profoundly significant policies will be similarly excluded due to bipartisan agreement. The list includes a rapidly growing domestic surveillance state that now monitors and records even the most innocuous activities of all Americans; job-killing free trade agreements; climate change policies; and the Obama justice department's refusal to prosecute the Wall Street criminals who precipitated the 2008 financial crisis."

"On still other vital issues, such as America's steadfastly loyal support for Israel and its belligerence towards Iran, the two candidates will do little other than compete over who is most aggressively embracing the same absolutist position. And this is all independent of the fact that even on the issues that are the subject of debate attention, such as healthcare policy and entitlement "reform", all but the most centrist positions are off limits."

"One way to solve this problem would be to allow credible third-party candidates into the presidential debates and to give them more media coverage. Doing so would highlight just how similar Democrats and Republicans have become, and what little choice American voters actually have on many of the most consequential policies. That is exactly why the two major parties work so feverishly to ensure the exclusion of those candidates: it is precisely the deceitful perception of real choice that they are most eager to maintain."

Lynn Grant 2 years, 2 months ago

Mittens may have won this debate, but he did through well spoken deceit. We will see what the next 2 show. Ultimately, the country loses if he wins the election.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 2 months ago

Or, the Americans you call "socialist" could in fact be capitalists and former Republicans who don't agree with the party's trend toward catering to goose-stepping, homophobic moralistic nanny-staters who want to control our private lives.

And if compromise isn't an option in todays' Republican party, you will see it diminish and wither until it's solely the mouthpiece of the Teabaggers. So we're staying put ~ not moving to Venezuela. Not going anywhere.

Deal with it. Or you can be the one to go.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 2 months ago

You've been warned about that. Maybe you'll get the boot for good this time. And WND is hardly a reputable source. Painting the "gay" card. Won't help. You're sounding increasingly desperate by the day. Maybe when you're "Born Again" you can get it right.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 2 months ago

Straight, openly gay, or closeted, he has my vote. There is nothing wrong with homosexuality ~ and if he was gay he'd be unafraid to tell us ~ but a lie is still a lie. And just like folks avoid a drunk, racist uncle at a family reunion, many folks within the Republican party will use their own good judgement about such issues before hopping on the drunk uncle's bandwagon of hatred.
Grasping at straws, more and more desperate by the moment. What's next, claiming he kicks puppies?

Flap Doodle 2 years, 2 months ago

This is the same Guardian that had English folks writing letters to people in Clark County, Ohio telling them how to vote in 2004? How'd that turn out, bozo?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

So, does that mean you agree or disagree with the content of the article?

Keith 2 years, 2 months ago

You of course don't need to pretend.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

Presidential Debate Aftermath: Mitt Romney Wins All-Important BS Contest

by Matt Taibbi

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/presidential-debate-aftermath-mitt-romney-wins-all-important-bs-contest-20121005

Excerpts--

"I didn't watch the debate – I just couldn't. I read it in transcript form afterwards. I know it is widely believed that Mitt Romney won, but I don't agree. I think both candidates lost. I think they both sucked. Romney told a series of outright lies – the bit about the pre-existing conditions was incredible – while Barack Obama seemed unaccountably disinterested in the intellectual challenge of the exercise, repeatedly leaving the gross absurdities hurled his way by Romney unchallenged.

Romney's performance was better than Obama's, but only if you throw out criteria like "wasn't 100% full of (crap) from the opening bell" and "made an actual attempt to explain who he is and what his plans are." Unfortunately, that is good enough for our news media, which drools over the gamesmanship aspects of these debates, because it loves candidates who sink their teeth into the horse-race nonsense that they think validates their professional lives."

"Romney did come across as the more confident and aggressive candidate, and Obama did come across as "wonky" and "lacking punch." Just visually and dramatically, Romney met the spectacle on its terms better than Obama did, much the way John F. Kennedy did in his celebrated debate with Richard Nixon. In that legendary meeting, radio viewers thought Nixon won, but TV viewers, blown away by Kennedy's smile and tan, thought was a landslide for the Democrat.

Journalists who cite that Nixon-Kennedy debate always forget that the lesson of that night is that the new broadcast media technology made superficiality and nonsense more important – that thanks to the press, it was now possible to get someone elected to the most powerful office on earth because he had a superior tan."

"So the answer to the question, "What will you do to rein in the biggest budget deficit in history?" comes down to, "I'll cut PBS, which is about one millionth of the federal budget, and some other stuff."

"Reporters should have instantly pelted Romney with bags of dog(poo) for insulting the American people with this ridiculous non-answer, but he was instead praised for the canny "strategy" hidden in the response. Despite the fact that Romney is running as a budget hawk and yet has refused to name any actual programs (except Obamacare and PBS) he will cut, reporters gave him credit in the debate for being willing to be the bearer of bad budgetary news, because he essentially advance-fired Jim Lehrer on TV. Many also complimented the "humor" of the line about Big Bird.

Typically, Obama is the recipient of the breathless media plaudits for meaningless imageering and iconography, but Romney scooped it all up this time. Ugh. At least there are only two more!"

Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

Boz,

Barry can't run on his record, Mitt called him on it and Barry choked. Mitt had a 3 point response to Barry at every instance. Mitt was better prepared, better informed and a better candidate. Bottom line you can't keep propping up this failure of a president, he has no excuses left for his poor performance.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

Did you even read the article you're posting this to? If so, you clearly didn't understand it-- probably because you're incapable of anything but uncritical toadyism for whatever the Republicans puke out.

Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

Is it hard to be on the losing end of arguements all the time Boz ?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

It's hard to even have an argument with people like you who believe that plugging your ears and screaming "la la la la" is a valid, defensible position.

Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

Open your eyes and look at the record it speaks for itself. You can't see that why ?

Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

Gee somehow your barb would mean more if you had at least some credebility

Mike Ford 2 years, 2 months ago

let's see.....romney allegedly wins one debate while having a tom arnold hyper moment playing with hardly any facts except the ones the right wing has made up for a couple of years now. romney outed himself as a massachusetts moderate....and told the right wingers to shove it.....regulation.....that's something the tea partiers want......really??? health care provisions the tea partiers want.....they don't want anything except their own fiefdom where they can shoot guns and be as prejudiced as they want to be? romney has a major problem with southerners.....I know.....I grew up there and saw them as the narrow view easily misled people they are.....the gop surely knows this....they've misled them since reagan......will romney do well with the religious leaders who spoke along side rick perry calling the Morman faith a cult in Texas? we had Morman hunting buddies in Lake Charles Lousiana who named one of their seven kids after my brother back in the day. Southerners for the most part are bigotted. I've seen this firsthand. How does one win with a southern strategy that was created for racist demographics under George Wallace and co opted by Richard Nixon in 1968 with a Morman? I'm glad it's not the Democrat's problem. Of course, the gop is tripping over it's contradictions left and right and the clueless don't seem to care....

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 2 months ago

A more fitting endorsement for Mittens has not been written. "At least he's not the other guy." In other words, just like Johnny Bravo, the suit happened to fit. Too bad a qualified Republican candidate wasn't offered. 18% likelihood of Romney winning. 100% likelihood that Republicans will squeal like stuck pigs about voter fraud. Next.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 2 months ago

Nope. We'll leave that to the Republicans in Florida. Crooks! 18%. Soak in it.

Richard Heckler 2 years, 2 months ago

Voters You are hereby on notice!

The repub party declared the day Obama was elected their primary function would be to make Obama a one term president. Consequently their millions of NO votes became the disastrous campaign against women,The USA and jobs for Americans. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/09/did-republicans-deliberately-crash-us-economy

BRING ON EMPLOYMENT = THE GREATEST REPUBLICAN FEAR ON EARTH!!!

Repubs fear a dramatically improved quality of life for all WOULD keep them out of control for decades….. we would hope.

Keep in mind a prospering america can overcome repub fear mongering... it must.

What is the repub party afraid? Why do they ALWAYS say no?

What do Repubs fear?

--- Fear a dramatically improved quality of life for all americans

--- Fear Jobs Jobs Jobs for americans

--- Fear New USA industry thus new wealth for america

--- Fear new cleaner energy sources because it would create so many new jobs and reduce rates across the board

--- Fear Medicare Single Payer Insurance = huge tax dollar savings to government,public schools,small business and all of us in general. Single Payer Medicare is the answer. -http://www.healthcare-now.org/ / -http://www.pnhp.org

--- Fear Clean Collar Industries which produce jobs that cannot be outsourced

--- Fear educated Americans because WE ask questions

Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

The three stooges are sounding desperate ( again ) this morning. Do you guys find it harder and harder to support Barry and his proven failed policies ?

Flap Doodle 2 years, 2 months ago

Biden's off the campaign trail for six days. Probably doing the debate prep his boss blew off. We'll see how much it helps him next Thursday. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-takes-6-days-campaign-trail_653879.html

Richard Heckler 2 years, 2 months ago

Neither WOMEN nor Republicans nor Democrats nor the Upper Middle Class/Middle class can afford the Republican/RINO Party!

Do women need more republican big government in there lives? It is on the way! http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/05/3849961/joel-brinkley-gop-would-impose.html

Public Education is a strong player in new Economic Growth yet republicans starve the system of funding which starves our teachers of resources. Which starves the desired level of education = stealing from our children’s future.

Trying to kill an educational institution such as Sesame Street and PBS is reckless and Irresponsible. Republicans are out of touch going on 32 years.

Is the market value of your home worth less than your mortgage? How much market value have home owners lost since 2007? Trillions of $$$$.

Repub entitlements have literally destroyed jobs,economies and retirement plans. And made owning a home a risky investment - now that is remarkable.

DC republicans have been successful at wrecking our economy big time twice in the past thirty years. Because of the pattern I am convinced it is their economic policy established under the direction of Reagan/Bush.

Bush/Cheney accomplished a remarkable achievement by destroying the world economy which of course makes it difficult for the USA to bounce back quickly. The question becomes how in the world did they sucker financial institutions worldwide into buying bundles upon bundles upon bundles of bad USA home loans worth trillions of dollars in bad debt?

What an incredible and criminally insane economic policy? I don't believe the entire world can afford the economically reckless republican party that was born in 1980.

Richard Heckler 2 years, 2 months ago

Let's talk about republican entitlements that literally destroyed jobs,economies,retirement plans. And made owning a home a risky investment as we speak - now that is remarkable.

--- This ENTITLEMENT - Bailing out The Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist aka home loan scandal sent the economy out the window costing taxpayers many many $$ trillions (Cost taxpayers $1.4 trillion), Plus millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm

--- This ENTITLEMENT Bailing out the Bush/Cheney Home Loan Wall Street Bank Fraud cost consumers $ trillions, millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. Exactly like the Reagan/Bush home loan scam. Déjà vu can we say. Yep seems to be a pattern. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

--- This ENTITLEMENT - Bush/Cheney implied many financial institutions were at risk instead of only 3? One of the biggest lies perpetrated to American citizens. Where did this money go? Why were some banks forced to take bail out money? http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10/good_billions_after_bad_one_year

The fewer republicans the more our properties will become worth and the more likely USA jobs will be reinvigorated.

Richard Heckler 2 years, 2 months ago

--- We broadcast from just outside a Freeport, Illinois, factory owned by Bain Capital, the private equity firm co-founded by Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney. Workers at Sensata Technologies have set up an encampment called "Bainport" across the street from the facility to protest the company’s plan to close the plant and move it to China, taking 170 jobs with it.

--- The workers have been trying to get Romney to save their jobs. Some of the workers have been employed here for 33 years. They will lose their jobs effective November 5,2012 the day before election day.

Obviously Mitt Romney has no plans for USA jobs.

--- We’re joined by two Sensata workers — Mark Schreck and Tom Gaulrapp — and Freeport Mayor George Gaulrapp, who has supported the encampment and fended off calls for it to be shut down.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/20/bainport_live_from_illinois_plant_where

Richard Heckler 2 years, 2 months ago

--- Mother Jones Reporter David Corn on Revealing the Secret Romney Video That’s Upended the 2012 Campaign.

--- Mother Jones reporter David Corn joins us to discuss how he released the now notorious video of Mitt Romney telling a crowd of wealthy donors in Florida that he does not worry about the 47 percent of Americans who are "dependent" on government and see themselves as "victims." Romney’s comments have divided Republicans, with some saying he should stand by his statements and others suggesting he should renounce them.

--- http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/20/mother_jones_reporter_david_corn_on

--- FORBES has since advised Mitt Romney that he is uninformed aka wrong.

Flap Doodle 2 years, 2 months ago

"SageonPage 1 hour, 1 minute ago

merrill, no one reads your pap save yourself the time and just sit quietly and listen to the elders of your community."

Fred Whitehead Jr. 2 years, 2 months ago

Well, thank you Mr Limbaugh for coming hauling your fat drug-soaked butt out of your New York Penthouse to come to Kansas and shore up this bucolic local newsrag who sagging sales and tea-bag soaked management has caused us to have to hike to the curb to retrieve our over priced copies of the print edition from the wet grass and bushes. Your ghost writing efforts are very predictable but as usual, way off to the right edge of the flat earth.,

To my notion, Romney looked like a frenetic, lying bobblehead doll with his eyes fluttering, head dancing to the tune of his multitude of onerous lies. I thought the President did very well on this debate. Now now that the improvement in the job situation has been released and the expected torrent of denials from the facist right has emerged , the effectiveness of his administration is beginning to take notice by the public that is not drugged out on tea.

Cait McKnelly 2 years, 2 months ago

This editorial is as full of hot air and lies as Romney. The unemployment rate is the lowest it's been since Obama took office in 2009.
This is more of a Romney campaign piece than an "editorial" (which means it has Dolph Simons stamped all over it) and it hides behind an anonymous "jw editorial" with no byline.
To quote Newt Gingrich after his debate with Romney: "You cannot debate somebody who is dishonest. You just can't. I can't debate somebody who won't tell the truth."

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

Yea, this debate was truly an Etcha-Sketch moment for Mitt.

Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

Don't worry by the time Biden/Ryan is over with Barry will look like the 3rd most qualified to be President.

paulveer 2 years, 2 months ago

It's interesting how much the local trolls like the ever literate Dolph today. I think they admire how well he expresses their deeply held beliefs.

Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

Or. Dolph highlights how out of touch the local blue loonies are with reality. There fixed it for ya.

paulveer 2 years, 2 months ago

I say "troll" and Armstrong pops up. Okaaaay...

wastewatcher 2 years, 2 months ago

A great editorial that tells it like it is. Romney deserves a chance to see if he can clean up this mess, whoever created it. Interesting to note that Obama never once mentioned HOPE AND CHANGE because it is A FAILURE just like OBAMA IS A FAILURE.

Katara 2 years, 2 months ago

Constitutional_Malfeasance 5 hours, 53 minutes ago...
"One for sure thing: Romney's performance has the Obamalytes I full panic mode, as demonstrated by many on this website and many in the tank in the press Corp like Chris Matthews. See Nancy Wassermann-Schlutz Is hysterical Too to defend Obama."

Yes, yes you are.

Mike Ford 2 years, 2 months ago

eight years of destruction ignored by simpleton voters who cling to their admitted racism calling people barry soetero or whatever lies they've concocted since January 1, 2009. You'll vote for lie peddling moderates who prostitute themselves to the church, guns, and racism as dictated by the litereral interpretation of the bible crowd in spite of the fact they view Mormans like they view minorities. History for dummies.... twelve years of gop dummies between 1920 and 1932 led to sixteen years of FDR mopping up your mess. What was even funnier was when much of the country didn't buy the refuse you're selling when Alf Landon got mopped across the floor by FDR. You're bashing President Obama because you juveniles voted for Bush....ignored his destruction and assail President Obama for the mess your simpleton created. Better yet you send the crazies to obstruct any solution and act like President Obama did all this.... believe your pile of stink and lies.....really......

Cait McKnelly 2 years, 2 months ago

Please adjust the antennae on your tinfoil hat, Sage.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

"B. Hussein Obama is Barry Soetoro, he began using the name B.O. in Chicago."

Hmm, say we take your word for it that Barry used to use a previous name-- one that he might even have a legitimate claim to.

That pales in comparison to the dozens of names you've used on this forum over the years.

And I'll bet that you'll be needing yet another one, probably sooner rather than later.

Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

Or 4 more years of failed policy ala Barry. I'll take my chances with Mitt

tbaker 2 years, 2 months ago

You crack me up Tusch....LMAO. Keep'm coming. This blog needs your comic relief.

Flap Doodle 2 years, 2 months ago

And since the MSM has mostly swept last month's terrorist attack in Libya under the rug: "...CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson has sat down with Lt. Col. Andy Wood to discuss the security situation in Libya prior to them leaving in August and he told her that the State Dept. was telling them to stop asking for more security: ATTKISSON: Do you feel like there was a disconnect between what you saw on the ground and what the State Dept. folks thought was going on in Libya? WOOD: There was certainly no disconnect in our transfer of information to them. They were getting the information on the situation on the ground. We sent it up through State Dept. cables and I sent it up to the military side on the D.O.D. side. So, there was awareness of what the situation in Libya was about. ATTKISSON: How did you get the word that your team would not be allowed to stay? WOOD: We knew that was coming through the cables and the draft cables that were going back and forth. The requests were being modified to say ‘don’t even request for D.O.D. support’. ATTKISSON: So State Dept. was telling the folks on the ground in Libya ‘don’t continue to ask for this help’? WOOD: Correct..." http://www.therightscoop.com/cbs-news-top-us-security-chief-in-libya-says-state-dept-told-them-to-stop-asking-for-more-security/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRightScoop+%28The+Right+Scoop%29

Mike Ford 2 years, 2 months ago

you and your fellow troll's denial give me comic relief.....

Mike Ford 2 years, 2 months ago

I know plenty sageonpage (probably another Linwood alias). Barack Obama was born in Hawaii to a Nigerian father and a mother of White/Cherokee (Dunham family) from south central Kansas (Augusta and El Dorado). His mother had him in Hawaii and then went to Indonesia and back to the mainland US. Barack Obama attended Harvard and Occidental College and was a law professor at Harvard. Instead of being a me first dimwit american he went to give back to communities. It's telling when dimwits like most of the gop make fun of a community organizer because many of them are fakes with no people skills like romney, guliani, and sarah palin (remember that has been....why wasn't she at your gop convention?....you sound like you could have many intelligent conversations with sarah palin sage.....) I love how simpletons have to make up stuff when confronted by facts and they cling ever so desparately to the birther nonsense. Oh yeah.....all of the stuff above was off the top of my head.... you guys can't state facts with your fox cheat sheet in front of you.... nice.,,,,,

Flap Doodle 2 years, 2 months ago

"...a law professor at Harvard..." He was a student at Harvard, he wasn't on the faculty. The top of your head must be a strange place. Thanks for the LOLZ. Try again sometime.

grammaddy 2 years, 2 months ago

"Gish Galloping" doesnotmake you the winnerin anyone's debate. Google it.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

Very good call, grammaddy.

For those who don't care to google it (but not for snap, who I know rarely reads anything here that's more than five words long,) here's the definition--

The Urban Dictionary defines the Gish Gallop thusly:

Named for the debate tactic created by creationist shill Duane Gish, a Gish Gallop involves spewing so much BS in such a short span that your opponent can’t address let alone counter all of it. To make matters worse a Gish Gallop will often have one or more 'talking points' that has a tiny core of truth to it, making the person rebutting it spend even more time debunking it in order to explain that, yes, it's not totally false but the Galloper is distorting/misusing/misstating the actual situation. A true Gish Gallop generally has two traits. 1) The factual and logical content of the Gish Gallop is pure BS and anybody knowledgeable and informed on the subject would recognize it as such almost instantly. That is, the Gish Gallop is designed to appeal to and deceive precisely those sorts of people who are most in need of honest factual education.

2) The points are all ones that the Galloper either knows, or damn well should know, are totally BS. With the slimier users of the Gish Gallop, like Gish himself, it's a near certainty that the points are chosen not just because the Galloper knows that they're BS, but because the Galloper is deliberately trying to shovel as much BS into as small a space as possible in order to overwhelm his opponent with sheer volume and bamboozle any audience members with a facade of scholarly acumen and factual knowledge.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/04/1139926/-Romney-Won-Using-a-Debate-Technique-Called-the-Gish-Gallop

Flap Doodle 2 years, 2 months ago

Oh, noes! " WASHINGTON DC - Engaged a relentless battle against time and fatigue, a select group of message scientists assembled by the White House's Center for Narrative Control say they will take "all steps necessary" to contain a recent outbreak of scrutonium, a deadly poll-eating supervirus that attacks the immuno-hope system, leaving victims vulnerable to material facts.
"Failure is simply not an option," said an exhausted Mission Chief David Axelrod. "If left unchecked, this virus may actually force us to move back to Chicago." The recent re-infection of scrutonium into the body politic has been a harrowing turn of fortune for Axlerod and his scientific team. In November 2008, they had declared scrutonium "all but extinct," although they kept small amounts of the strain for use in laboratory experiments with Republican tax returns. It was thought to be in containment as recently as five weeks ago, with scientists citing poll results showing resistance to doses of unemployment previously considered fatal. All that changed on September 12 after an unexpected outbreak in Benghazi, Libya. Although it caught Axlerod and his team by surprise, they were temporarily able to keep it under control with a regimen of YouTube blame therapy and gaffe-meme injections. But the new Benghazi strain proved stubbornly resistant, and has continued to slowly spread. Amid their battle to contain the Benghazi strain, a second - and even more deadly - outbreak appeared in Denver on October 3. Nicknamed "the Doomsday Strain", the Denver scrutonium virus has thusfar been impervious to any attempt at containment. "We're dealing with the ultimate buzzkiller here," said Senior Narrative Engineer Stephanie Cutter. "This one directly attacks voters' ability to hallucinate happy thoughts, or even ignore the obvious - no matter how many squirrels we innoculate them with."..." http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2012/10/white-house-scientists-struggle-to-contain-outbreak-of-scrutonium.html

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

That's a pretty long cut and paste. You been hanging around with Merrill?

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