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Location of downtown bus transfer point set to change

November 27, 2012

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By early next year, the area near Ninth and Vermont streets will be the new center of the city’s public transit system.

Lawrence city commissioners on Tuesday unanimously agreed to temporarily designate an area of Vermont Street between Eighth and Ninth streets as the new transfer hub for the city’s bus system, the T.

The move is in response to construction work that is expected to begin on a new multistory hotel at the northeast corner of Ninth and New Hampshire streets, which is near the current transfer point.

The move is not expected to happen until after the beginning of the year, although an exact date hasn’t been determined.

“We want to make sure we have plenty of time to inform the public and get signs out so that we’re not disrupting anybody’s trip,” said Robert Nugent, the city’s public transit administrator.

The new location will be on the east side of Vermont Street, between the two entrances to the city parking lot that occupies much of the 800 block of Vermont. The transfer point will cause about 16 parking spaces on Vermont to be closed. The city, though, believes it will gain parking spaces on parts of New Hampshire and Ninth streets where the buses currently load and unload.

“There will be a trade-off with parking,” Nugent said.

The move won’t be the last for the city’s bus system. Nugent told commissioners the city is currently interviewing consultants to help it find a permanent home for a bus station. The consultant’s report likely will be ready by the middle of 2013.

As he has previously stated, Nugent said it is likely the consultant will recommend a location outside of downtown because of growing space constraints in the downtown area.

In other news, commissioners:

• Directed staff members to draft an ordinance requiring sidewalk dining umbrellas to be at least 80 inches above the sidewalks. Staff members said low hanging umbrellas in downtown had become a pedestrian safety concern.

• Unanimously approved the annexation of 90 acres just north of the northeast corner of Sixth Street and the South Lawrence Trafficway. The site is proposed to house a Kansas University sports complex and city recreation center. Commissioners, however, didn’t take any action to zone the property. That action likely won’t be taken until the city reaches agreement on the sports complex with the Kansas University Endowment Association.

Comments

poolside 2 years ago

Whatever happened to the train depot on New York street as a hub? That was a great idea.

I agree with the blind spot mentioned by Wilbur. Maybe take out a few more parking spaces and create a safer right hand lane in order to merge a little better. Maybe.

Kendall Simmons 2 years ago

The depot actually wasn't a great idea for a hub simply because it's too far away from everything, and isn't even a centralized "too far away" :-)

I also certainly hope the city does not put a roundabout in at 9th and NH, It's a stupid idea.

classclown 2 years ago

poolside

Whatever happened to the train depot on New York street as a hub? That was a great idea.

November 28, 2012 at 3:46 a.m

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I don't remember all the details but as it turned out, it really wasn't a great idea. In fact, it wasn't even a good one.

Cant_have_it_both_ways 2 years ago

NEWSFLASH: As the city continues to try to justify its' favorite money pit, the taxpayers continue to be impregnated by the progressives.

SloMo 2 years ago

Still don't understand why there has to be a hub. At the very least, couldn't there be some routes that don't go downtown? Seems like the powers that be are really locked into one and only one way of thinking.

DennisReynolds 2 years ago

I think there are a lot of routes that don't need to run at all.

gccs14r 2 years ago

A central hub works if the city is set up in a hub-and-spoke manner, like cities in Europe and older cities on the east coast. Midwestern grid cities do not lend themselves to hub-based routes. We should run straight up-and-back routes on major streets and selected secondary streets, perhaps with a transfer point at park 'n ride for the students.

kuguardgrl13 2 years ago

Lawrence has several small hubs/transfer points: Downtown, Campus, and South Iowa where several routes converge. See the route map here: http://www.lawrenceks.org/assets/transit/maps/2012-route-map.pdf

bearded_gnome 2 years ago

Poolside wrote: ^^Whatever happened to the train depot on New York street as a hub? That was a great idea.

---as a location geographically in the city, yes. but for trafic there, no. for space for the buses, no. for space for people/transfers, no.
neighbors didn't like it, too.

gccs14r 2 years ago

Never mind the urban planning department at KU, which would probably jump at the chance to help out.

A professor at UGA was contracted by Athens to create a planning document for its downtown area. The dude did it for $30k and donated the fee. Why hire outside help?

50YearResident 2 years ago

City says: The move won’t be the last for the city’s bus system. Nugent told commissioners the city is currently interviewing consultants to help it find a permanent home for a bus station. The consultant’s report likely will be ready by the middle of 2013.

My question: How much are these consultants going to charge for 6 to 8 months work? These Giant buses travel all day long with 1 to 3 passengers. Fuel alone must be $500 per week, per bus multiplied by ? amount of buses. That is 52 weeks in a year = $26,000 per bus for the year. What a waste of tax payers money.

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