Archive for Monday, November 26, 2012

Town will take cross off its seal

November 26, 2012


— The central Kansas town of Buhler is redesigning its seal after a group called the Freedom from Religion Foundation complained that it contained a religious cross.

The Hutchinson News reported that the city also will replace a large sign in the city’s park that also contained a religious cross.

Mayor Daniel Friesen said city officials sought legal opinions from several different sources before making the decision to alter the seal.

Residents were informed of the decision in an email Friday. The cross has been part of the city’s seal since 1988.

The Freedom from Religion Foundation sent a letter to the city in September. The organization argued that the sign violates the Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution. The group said including the cross indicated government endorsement of Christianity.


gr 5 years, 1 month ago

"after a group called the Freedom from Religion Foundation complained that it contained a religious cross."

How does one determine if it is a religious cross or a pagan cross? Or is a pagan cross religious?

But is the town free from religion or just has been imposed a different type of religion?

jhawkinsf 5 years, 1 month ago

The town sought several legal opinions and then made this choice. It's not very difficult to read between the lines and get answers to your questions.

Phoghorn 5 years, 1 month ago

How about forming a Freedom-from folks who have a hissy fit every time they see something even remotely related to Christianity -Foundation?

kenos 5 years, 1 month ago

How do we get free from the Freedom From Religion Foundation? I'll bet these people have plenty of religion. How could thay believe in anything but atheisim? If this cross was part of Buhler for 24 years, then I'll bet none of these people actually live there.

deec 5 years, 1 month ago

" Unfortunately, EVERY (emphasis mine) legal opinion we received indicated that our City has no supportable case in the event the city was sued to legally force us to remove the seal and sign. "

somedude20 5 years, 1 month ago

Why does everything or anything not church related need religious hieroglyphics on it? Why is there such an urge to stamp your religious beliefs all over everything when MANY don't think the way YOU do?

It is not freedom of religion to make everything God-ish just like it is not taking away from your silly religious beliefes by removing your god's junk from things/places it ought not be!

somedude20 5 years, 1 month ago

I am only a problem to problemed people, Mike!

Jim Phillips 5 years, 1 month ago

No where in the Constitution does it say anyone can be free OF religion. You are free to follow which ever religion appeals to you or none if you choose...and so am I. If you are offended by religious symbols, tough! I am not. Just what is it about religious symbols that scare Liberals? Just another example of inferior mentalities thinking they are superior.

riverdrifter 5 years, 1 month ago

"Just another example of inferior mentalities thinking they are superior."

Well, sheeiit! Damn, I guess you-all are superior to me! I hereby bow down to your "superior mentality'". Not. Take a hike.

Mike Ford 5 years, 1 month ago

oh those millions of poor oppressed christians......forget the millions of minorities killed in the name of some religion.....remember the clowns that whine on right wing church radio every Saturday..... 88.1 FM, 92.3 FM, 96.1 FM.......waaagh...... remember that the power of the Anglican Church in England at the time was the reason that many of the people involved in the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution writings wanted separation of Church and State so that there wouldn't be state sanctioned religion like there is in the Sovereign Republic of Churchistan (the southern US and much of rural America) currently. Some of these American religious zealots sound like they should be stoning women or hauling people to jail for blasphemy like the people they preach against for being un American. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.... H.L. Mencken.....stated during the last period of GOP and religion based lunacy.....the 1920's.....prohibition.... the Scopes Monkey Trial......this is 2012 right?

Jim Phillips 5 years, 1 month ago

Question tusch. If you hate America so much, why do you stay?

gr 5 years, 1 month ago

Maybe you didn't understand what I was trying to say. What if instead we were talking about a symbol for Tamuz, a pagan god representing incest, of multiple times? Would you be saying the same things?

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