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Moran: GOP needs to assess election’s meaning

November 9, 2012

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U.S. Sen. Jerry Moran would like to help recruit candidates to run for the Senate two years from now, he says.

But what strategies he or other Republicans might pursue when it comes to the next congressional election, he said, aren’t yet clear.

“I think we all need to sit down and have a conversation, try to figure out what this election has meant,” Moran said Friday. “What was the story behind the election?”

Moran spoke with the Journal-World briefly Friday before his appearance at a U.S. Marine Corps birthday celebration at the Dole Institute of Politics at Kansas University.

The Capitol Hill publication Roll Call reported this week that Moran is interested in leading the National Republican Senatorial Committee, which aims to help the election of Republicans to the Senate, during the next two-year election cycle.

Moran said Friday that he would indeed like to help find Senate candidates for 2014, though that doesn’t mean he’s not focused on working with the current class of elected officials to solve problems.

“Two years from now, if we don’t like what we’ve seen in the last two years, then we go back to work to try to change the nature of who represents us in Washington, D.C.,” Moran said. “And so I’ve expressed an interest in trying to help recruit and elect individuals who would be good members of the United States Senate for the good of the country.”

At this time, he said, it’s unclear exactly what lessons can be drawn from this year’s elections, which left the presidency and the Senate in control of Democrats and the House in control of Republicans.

“The development to me that’s interesting is that, while many people were complaining about the way that Washington, D.C., didn’t work, we really have the same makeup of the House, Senate and the same president after the election,” Moran said.

But, he said, that development likely means that the issue of creating and protecting jobs should remain front and center, as it was following the 2010 elections.

In the near future, he said, it would be important for the two parties to immediately work together in spite of the divided government to avert the impending “fiscal cliff”: the January deadline after which tax increases and spending cuts will kick into effect if nothing is changed.

He said the president has the most ability to overcome gridlock and help leaders work together.

“I hope that President Obama, now that the election is over, is interested and willing to do that,” Moran said. “It also means that Republicans in the House and Senate need to be open to that effort.”

Moran said he would push for Congress, during the so-called “lame-duck” period before the end of its session, to come up with a permanent tax-code solution rather than a temporary one meant to just stave off crisis.

“Let’s stay at it, hold our feet to the fire and actually get something done,” Moran said.

Comments

Steve Bunch 2 years, 4 months ago

His grasp of the obvious is overshadowed only by his cluelessness.

truman1902 2 years, 4 months ago

I assume the gag order on obscure senators from rural areas has been temporarily lifted. For the last two years, the compilation of sound bites & position papers via Sen. Moran could fit into the glove box of my Honda Civic. We can start by tossing Mitch McConnell overboard and handing the minority leadership of the senate to Marco Rubio. On the House side, in the words of Dave Letterman, I wouldn't give Speaker Boehner's pile of troubles to a monkey on a ROCK!

Stan Unruh 2 years, 4 months ago

Very accurate Truman. Moran is a nice guy but is a fence sitter. He stands for nothing and never wants to offend anyone...thus he accomplishes NOTHING. It's time Kansas found someone, anyone to replace him.

gccs14r 2 years, 4 months ago

Admit that science is a good thing, raise taxes, cut military spending and corporate welfare, enact single-payer healthcare, realize that the 14th Amendment applies to marriage, get out of people's bedrooms, and quit jailing people for marijuana, and maybe, just maybe, you'll be subject to less derision from the electorate.

lunacydetector 2 years, 4 months ago

they need to recruit very conservative blacks and hispanics with about half of them being women.....the uneducated or clueless that elected obama again wouldn't know what to do. then, the koch brothers and any other super rich conservatives need to buy up yahoo news, aol, time warner, abc, cbs, nbc and FIRE all of the biased liberal reporters and replace them with reporters that are unbiased - or they could hire conservative reporters like all the mainstream media only hires liberal reporter 99% of the time. get rid of all the homosexual anchors. that should do the trick....oh, and give the poor a free cell phone.

Katara 2 years, 4 months ago

Hmm... it sounds like you support affirmative action through quotas.

I was under the impression that the right wingers & Tea Party folks were against those things.

parrothead8 2 years, 4 months ago

You do know that the free phone line thing program was started by Reagan, right? It's just been carried over by various presidents, and Bush II extended it to cell phones. It's a program meant to make sure unemployed people have an active phone line, because it's very difficult to get a job if the employer can't call you back.

And no, the GOP doesn't need to "recruit very conservative blacks and hispanics." What they need to do is understand that this election was a mandate by the majority of American voters that their "very conservative" views aren't acceptable anymore. They concentrated on attracting a large percentage of white voters, ignored most others, and built a platform based on exclusion. If they keep it up they're going to become irrelevant within a decade.

Finally, YOU need to take a look at the average education level of people who vote Democrat versus people who vote Republican, because it doesn't support your idea that it was "the uneducated or clueless that elected Obama."

JayCat_67 2 years, 4 months ago

"FIRE all of the biased liberal reporters and replace them with reporters that are unbiased". Looks more like fire everyone I don't agree with and replace them with those I do. Herr Goebbels would be so proud of you.

dipweed 2 years, 4 months ago

Figure out what the election means? It's not too tough. The GOP is out of touch with Latinos, Blacks, Asians, women, and young people. As long as they continue to pander to rich white men and extremist right-wing Bible-beaters they will continue to lose more elections as time goes on.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

Hey, Rush Limbaugh: 'Starting an Abortion Industry' Won't Win You Female Voters by Matt Taibbi

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/hey-rush-limbaugh-starting-an-abortion-industry-wont-win-you-female-voters-20121108#ixzz2BlxVhD87

excerpt--

"(T)he fact that so many Republicans this week think that all Hispanics care about is amnesty, all women want is abortions (and lots of them) and all teenagers want is to sit on their couches and smoke tons of weed legally, that tells you everything you need to know about the hopeless, anachronistic cluelessness of the modern Republican Party. A lot of these people, believe it or not, would respond positively, or at least with genuine curiosity, to the traditional conservative message of self-reliance and fiscal responsibility.

But modern Republicans will never be able to spread that message effectively, because they have so much of their own collective identity wrapped up in the belief that they're surrounded by free-loading, job-averse parasites who not only want to smoke weed and have recreational abortions all day long, but want hardworking white Christians like them to pay the tab. Their whole belief system, which is really an endless effort at congratulating themselves for how hard they work compared to everyone else (by the way, the average "illegal," as Rush calls them, does more real work in 24 hours than people like Rush and me do in a year), is inherently insulting to everyone outside the tent – and you can't win votes when you're calling people lazy, stoned moochers.

It's hard to say whether it's good or bad that the Rushes of the world are too clueless to realize that it's their attitude, not their policies, that is screwing them most with minority voters. If they were self-aware at all, Mitt Romney would probably be president right now. So I guess we should be grateful that the light doesn't look like it will ever go on. But wow, is their angst tough to listen to."

blindrabbit 2 years, 4 months ago

Jerry: Karl will probably be looking for a job soon, he is real good at predicting election results and holding the line on spending. May not want to bring him to Kansas anytime soon, especially around Wichita, if he does make sure he is drinking a Koch-a-Kola and not a Pepsi.

gccs14r 2 years, 4 months ago

So your solution for Moran is to double down on stupid. Got it.

The GOP needs to kick the Tea Party out and make them sink or swim on their own as a third party, instead of trying to pander to them.

David Albertson 2 years, 4 months ago

1992: The Democrat won the popular vote.

1996: The Democrat won the popular vote.

2000: The Democrat won the popular vote.

2004: The Republican won the popular vote.

2008: The Democrat won the popular vote.

2012: The Democrat won the popular vote.

I'm beginning to see a trend here. The GOP is in trouble.

In_God_we_trust 2 years, 4 months ago

Your right. It is a real trend. The country is also in major trouble by the same trend. The more Democrats win the popular vote and elections, the more morally corrupt our country becomes and the further deterioration there is in the financial strength of this country.

jafs 2 years, 4 months ago

There's an interesting chart showing that the economy actually does best with a combination of a D president and D congress, and worst with a combination of R presidents and R congresses.

In_God_we_trust 2 years, 4 months ago

The excesses of a D presidential admin. are usually historically corrected during R presidential admin. Whenever more money is spent, the economy will be better. The problem has been that the Republican candidates of late, such as Bush etc. have been more like a democrat admin than a republican admin. So we have had several admin's of overspending. Also usually D presidents started most of the wars. Now it is R presidents. So the end result is both R & D admins have been operating on the liberal side rather than conservative side of politics. This accounts for the downward slide of the country as a whole. The country needs to get back to center which is where our country has growth and balance and respect for each other and morality.

jafs 2 years, 4 months ago

Your assertion is not supported by historical evidence, which shows what I said it shows.

In_God_we_trust 2 years, 4 months ago

The excesses of a D presidential admin. are usually historically corrected during R presidential admin. Whenever more money is spent, the economy will be better. The problem has been that the Republican candidates of late, such as Bush etc. have been more like a democrat admin than a republican admin. So we have had several admin's of overspending. Also usually D presidents started most of the wars. Now it is R presidents. So the end result is both R & D admins have been operating on the liberal side rather than conservative side of politics. This accounts for the downward slide of the country as a whole. The country needs to get back to center which is where our country has growth and balance and respect for each other and morality.

beatrice 2 years, 4 months ago

Reagan tripled the debt. The debt grew under both Bushes, and shrank under Clinton. Did you really think it would shrink again under Obama when he was doing everything possible to keep us from falling into another Depression?

Democrats in power today ARE the center. They certainly aren't liberals.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 2 years, 4 months ago

Is the job ofthe elected representative of Kansas in trhe senate? Folks, what we have here is another Kobach, a Kansas elected official that feels his business is anywhere but bleeding flyover Kansas.

Oh, yeah, and by the way. What happened in the recent electin is that the facist right wing teabagger nuts in the GOP got their collective asses kicked and there is yet more to come if the clueless voters in Kansas ever get their heads on straight. But I do not hold much weight in that happening, there are just too many hayseeds, hicks and rubes that seem to think that the Republican party actually gives a rat's ass about them and is looking out for them.

saraj 2 years, 4 months ago

Moran's implying that President Obama has not tried to work with congress is laughable. Mr. Moran needs to begin listening to someone other than the Koch brothers if he Intends to continue to be fed and clothed by the voters.

jonas_opines 2 years, 4 months ago

“I think we all need to sit down and have a conversation, try to figure out what this election has meant,” Moran said Friday. “What was the story behind the election?”

Well, I suppose there are a couple possible trains of thought.

One: We're alienating a large number of voters through our regressive social-control policies, that we like because it forces other people to make sacrifices rather than ourselves, we're having trouble selling our view of personal responsibility and fiscal conservatism because we can't acknowledge that our failures are ever in any way our own fault and we have special interests of our own that we give huge amounts of money to.

Two: Over half the American Electorate, at least 60 million people (hell, let's just say the full 150 million), are lazy, ineffectual liberal atheists who just want free stuff.

Three: We need more dark-skinned people to woo the idiots, because obviously they only care about race.

I'm not sure which of these is a more effective lesson. I suppose it depends on what your actual goals are. But I recall reading a quote by Andrew Sullivan that I think was pretty dead-on. While it specifically is about Fox, a topic I personally try to avoid as being too easy and common of a target, I think it can be modified pretty well to apply to a lot of the right wing, not just the media figures, but those who consume the product (call it what it is, a product for consumption), that comes out of that echo chamber.

"Last night, Roger Ailes' walls came tumbling down. Because their foundations were not based in reality, just ratings. Fox deserves a great deal of credit for re-electing president Obama. Because they refused to see who he actually was, they could not effectively counter him. They countered a figment of their imagination - and it was a particularly nasty, bilious, mean figment."

And Obama, in this sense, is pretty interchangeable with "those who voted for him".

Joe Hyde 2 years, 4 months ago

The downward slide of the GOP began, in my view, with Ronald Reagan's campaign promise in 1979, that he would "get the government off the backs of the people". This and other anti-government comments stirred resentment among party faithful, and after Reagan left office it seemed to me that every Republican politician tried to prove their worth by trying to out-do Reagan. They've kept proposing and trying to enact into law ever-more-extreme views of foreign and domestic policymaking.

It was only after Reagan was elected that we saw a resurgence of racial hate groups, anti-government groups wrapping themselves in the American flag while waving Bibles to justify their hate. The KKK came out from under their rock, voter suppression tactics became more prevalent, militia groups sprung up in many states. There were nationwide efforts to suppress women't rights, especially their reproductive rights.

I think what the GOP has morphed into is a party whose representatives, in order to gain power or stay in power, reflexively preach to us the evils of government (both on the national and state level), yet they fail to comprehend the lurking danger of such rhetoric.

Without government we are not a People. Without government we are a rabble, a dog-eat-dog, "Lord of the Flies" rabble.

jonas_opines 2 years, 4 months ago

"Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed. Their mistaken course stems from false notions of equality, ladies and gentlemen. Equality, rightly understood, as our founding fathers understood it, leads to liberty and to the emancipation of creative differences. Wrongly understood, as it has been so tragically in our time, it leads first to conformity and then to despotism."

"On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism.""

Barry Goldwater (Mr. Conservative). 1964 and 1981 respectively.

In_God_we_trust 2 years, 4 months ago

I seem to recall that Barry Goldwater lost the Presidential election too.

verity 2 years, 4 months ago

Looks like the radical right has a new meme--- only the uneducated voted for Obama.

Rolls eyes.

Liberty275 2 years, 4 months ago

The uneducated vote R. The weak minded vote D. There are other Ds and Rs, they are just normal people that have differing opinions.

jonas_opines 2 years, 4 months ago

I'm guessing it just took this long for him to find the suitable set of talking points with which to repeat verbatim.

beatrice 2 years, 4 months ago

This is great -- now you are plagiarizing yourself! http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/nov/10/opinion-gop-should-do-conservatism-better/#c2182147

Hey rc, did you notice how wrong you were in your predictions of the past two years? Didn't I tell you Romney would lose?

Alyosha 2 years, 4 months ago

Keep on believing that, RockChalk — and in fact don't change a thing about your assumptions, your presumptions and your beliefs. That's the best thing that can happen to make sure Republicans continue putting unelectable candidates in front of voters.

Double down -- nay, triple down on your hyperbolic beliefs. Don't change a thing. We'll just calmly continue electing people who protect the middle class and make this country strong again for everyone while people like you keep yelling about monsters under your bed.

Worked out great for you in the presidential election, eh? Worked out great for those of us who support evidence based policies and the traditions of a strong middle class.

Kirk Larson 2 years, 4 months ago

I think that as the next election approaches republicans should make more remarks about how rape is god's will and maybe how forced pregnancy is good for women. Maybe throw in some racist and homosexual jokes. Talk about their servants and their vacation homes and extra cars. That would probably have the best outcome for the country as a whole.

bearded_gnome 2 years, 4 months ago

^^belief that they're surrounded by free-loading, job-averse parasites who not only want to smoke weed and have recreational abortions all day long, but "belief that they're surrounded by free-loading, job-averse parasites who not only want to smoke weed and have recreational abortions all day long, but "

sounds like the democrat party convention vagina monologue. plus, majority of dem convention goers wanted to either outlaw or sharply limit profit, all profit. ignorant.

mandate? Obama lost 8million votes from four years before! he was only reelected because Romney got fewer votes than did Mccain!
also, obama ran a sleezy, race baiting ugly campaign not to be proud of with no big idea.

tax the rich, and put more amerikans out of work. "pay your fair share and put amerikans out of work!" studies prove this.

higher achieving class higher class voted for Romney overwhelmingly, middle class voted for Romney overwhelmingly. poor voted for obama overwhelmingly. another poor choice of the poor.

deec 2 years, 4 months ago

States with highest median income

  1. Maryland. 2. Alaska. 3 .New Jersey. 4 .Connecticut. 5. Massachusetts. 6. New Hampshire. 7. Virginia. 8 .Hawaii. 9. Delaware. 10. California

All but Alaska were won by Obama.

The top 12 states with the highest per capita income all went to Obama.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results

verity 2 years, 4 months ago

Quit stating facts. Facts don't matter. Only what I want to believe matters.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

Given that the median income of all these states is relatively high, what's your point?

deec 2 years, 4 months ago

Your list is backwards. The two most expensive states have transportation issues which severely impact the cost of living.

The fact that these states have a high cost of living is irrelevant to the original point, which is that Obama voters are poor low achievers. States with high earnings, and presumably successful high achievers, vote Democrat.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48058145?__source=yahoo|tsfbexpensivestates|&par=yahoo

beatrice 2 years, 4 months ago

Wow. Obama lost 8 million votes from the last election and Romney still lost? Ouch. How is that for Republicans not being in touch with the people.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

And Romney got 2 million fewer votes than McCain (and Palin) did.

Alyosha 2 years, 4 months ago

Wrong. Obama won more votes than Romney — popular and electoral — and Democrats won the popular vote for Congress.

You're free to not like it, but a win is a win, and as George W. Bush said upon being re-elected, the President earned political capital and he intends to spend it.

Your premises and conclusions are just as wrong as Romney believing he was going to win. At some point one really needs to accept that they are 100% wrong. This is your chance to do that.

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