Archive for Tuesday, November 6, 2012

Obama wins re-election

Despite slow economic recovery, Ohio, other swing states go for president

David Charles, Lawrence, back right, hugs Sam Stepp, Prairie Village, front, as President Barack Obama is announced as the victor in the presidential race, Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2012. Local democrats gathered at The Dynamite Saloon, 821 Massachusetts to watch the results come in. At left is Kansas University senior Vanessa Phillips, Wichita. Nick Krug/Journal-World Photo

David Charles, Lawrence, back right, hugs Sam Stepp, Prairie Village, front, as President Barack Obama is announced as the victor in the presidential race, Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2012. Local democrats gathered at The Dynamite Saloon, 821 Massachusetts to watch the results come in. At left is Kansas University senior Vanessa Phillips, Wichita. Nick Krug/Journal-World Photo

November 6, 2012, 10:37 p.m. Updated November 7, 2012, 12:22 a.m.


Lawrence resident Elizabeth Stewart, right, reacts as it is announced that Iowa's electoral votes will go to President Barack Obama during a democrat watch party on Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2012 at The Dynamite Saloon, 821 Massachusetts.

Lawrence resident Elizabeth Stewart, right, reacts as it is announced that Iowa's electoral votes will go to President Barack Obama during a democrat watch party on Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2012 at The Dynamite Saloon, 821 Massachusetts.

President Barack Obama rolled to re-election Tuesday night, vanquishing former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and winning four more years in office despite a weak economy that plagued his first term and put a crimp in the middle class dreams of millions.

"This happened because of you. Thank you" Obama tweeted to supporters as he celebrated four more years in the White House.

Romney telephoned the president, then spoke to disappointed supporters in Boston. In a graceful concession, he summoned all Americans to pray for the president and urged the night's winners to put partisan bickering aside and "reach across the aisle" to tackle the nation's problems.

After the costliest — and arguably the nastiest — campaign in history, divided government seemed alive and well.

Democrats retained control of the Senate with surprising ease. Republicans were on course for the same in the House, making it likely that Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, Obama's partner in unsuccessful deficit talks, would reclaim his seat at the bargaining table.

At Obama headquarters in Chicago, a huge crowd gathered waving small American flags and cheering. Supporters hugged each other, danced and pumped their fists in the air. Excited crowds also gathered in New York's Times Square, at Faneuil Hall in Boston and near the White House in Washington, drivers joyfully honking as they passed by.

With votes counted in 75 percent of the nation's precincts, Obama held a narrow advantage in the popular vote, leading by about 25,000 out of more than 99 million cast.

But the president's laserlike focus on the battleground states allowed him to run up a 303-203 margin in the competition for electoral votes, where the White House is won or lost. It took 270 to win.

Obama captured Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado and Nevada, seven of the nine states where the rivals and their allies poured nearly $1 billion into dueling television commercials.

Romney was in Massachusetts, his long and grueling bid for the presidency at an unsuccessful end.

He won North Carolina among the battleground states.

Florida remained too close to call, a state where there were long lines of voters kept the polls open in some areas well past the appointed poll close time..

The election emerged as a choice between two very different visions of government — whether it occupies a major, front-row place in American lives or is in the background as a less-obtrusive facilitator for private enterprise and entrepreneurship.

The economy was rated the top issue by about 60 percent of voters surveyed as they left their polling places. But more said former President George W. Bush bore responsibility for current circumstances than Obama did after nearly four years in office.

That bode well for the president, who had worked to turn the election into a choice between his proposals and Romney's, rather than the simple referendum on the economy during his time in the White House.

Unemployment stood at 7.9 percent on election day, higher than when he took office. And despite signs of progress, the economy is still struggling after the worst recession in history.

There was no doubt about what drove voters to one candidate or the other.

About 4 in 10 said the economy is on the mend, but more than that said it was stagnant or getting worse more than four years after the near-collapse of 2008. The survey was conducted for The Associated Press and a group of television networks.

In the battle for the Senate, Democrats won seats currently held by Republicans in Indiana and Massachusetts.

In Maine, independent former Gov. Angus King was elected to succeed retiring GOP Sen. Olympia Snowe. He has not yet said which party he will side with, but Republicans attacked him in television advertising during the race, and Democrats rushed to his cause.

Polls were still open in much of the country as the two rivals began claiming the spoils of a brawl of an election in a year in which the struggling economy put a crimp in the middle class dreams of millions.

The president was in Chicago as he awaited the voters' verdict on his four years in office. He told reporters he had a concession speech as well as victory remarks prepared. He congratulated Romney on a spirited campaign. "I know his supporters are just as engaged, just as enthusiastic and working just as hard today" as Obama's own, he added.

Romney reciprocated, congratulating the man who he had campaigned against for more than a year.

Earlier, he raced to Ohio and Pennsylvania for Election Day campaigning and projected confidence as he flew home to Massachusetts. "We fought to the very end, and I think that's why we'll be successful," he said, adding that he had finished writing a speech anticipating victory but nothing if the election went to his rival.

But the mood soured among the Republican high command as the votes came in and Obama ground out a lead in critical states.

Like Obama, Vice President Joe Biden was in Chicago as he waited to find out if he was in line for a second term. Republican running mate Paul Ryan was with Romney in Boston, although he kept one eye on his re-election campaign for a House seat in Wisconsin, just in case.

The long campaign's cost soared into the billions, much of it spent on negative ads, some harshly so.

In the presidential race, an estimated one million commercials aired in nine battleground states where the rival camps agreed the election was most likely to be settled — Ohio, New Hampshire, Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Iowa, Colorado and Nevada.

In a months-long general election ad war that cost nearly $1 billion, Romney and Republican groups spent more than $550 million and Obama and his allies $381 million, according to organizations that track advertising.

In Virginia, the polls had been closed for several minutes when Obama's campaign texted a call for volunteers "to make sure everyone who's still in line gets to vote."

In Florida, there were long lines at the hour set for polls to close. Under state law, everyone waiting was entitled to cast a ballot.

According to the exit poll, 53 percent of voters said Obama is more in touch with people like them, compared to 43 percent for Romney.

About 60 percent said taxes should be increased, taking sides on an issue that divided the president and Romney. Obama wants to let taxes rise on upper incomes, while Romney does not.

Other than the battlegrounds, big states were virtually ignored in the final months of the campaign. Romney wrote off New York, Illinois and California, while Obama made no attempt to carry Texas, much of the South or the Rocky Mountain region other than Colorado.

There were 33 Senate seats on the ballot, 23 of them defended by Democrats and the rest by Republicans.

Democratic Rep. Chris Murphy, a Democrat, won a Connecticut seat long held by Sen. Joe Lieberman, retiring after a career that included a vice presidential spot on Al Gore's ticket in 2000. It was Republican Linda McMahon's second defeat in two tries, at a personal cost of $92 million.

The GOP needed a gain of three for a majority if Romney won, and four if Obama was re-elected. Neither Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada nor GOP leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky was on the ballot, but each had high stakes in the outcome.

All 435 House seats were on the ballot, including five where one lawmaker ran against another as a result of once-a-decade redistricting to take population shifts into account. Democrats needed to pick up 25 seats to gain the majority they lost two years ago.

Depending on the outcome of a few races, it was possible that white men would wind up in a minority in the Democratic caucus for the first time.

Speaker John A. Boehner, R-Ohio, raised millions to finance get-out-the-vote operations in states without a robust presidential campaign, New York, Illinois and California among them. His goal was to minimize any losses, or possibly even gain ground, no matter Romney's fate. House Democratic leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California campaigned aggressively, as well, and faced an uncertain political future if her party failed to win control.

In gubernatorial races, Republicans picked up North Carolina, where Pat McCrory won easily. The incumbent, Democratic Gov. Bev Purdue, did not seek re-election.

In a campaign that traversed contested Republican primaries last winter and spring, a pair of political conventions this summer and three presidential debates, Obama, Romney, Biden and Ryan spoke at hundreds of rallies, were serenaded by Bruce Springstein and Meat Loaf and washed down hamburgers, pizza, barbecue and burrito bowls.

Obama was elected the first black president in 2008, and four years later, Romney became the first Mormon to appear on a general election ballot. Yet one man's race and the other's religion were never major factors in this year's campaign for the White House, a race dominated from the outset by the economy.

Over and over, Obama said that during his term the nation has begun to recover from the worst recession since the Great Depression. While he conceded progress has been slow, he accused Romney of offering recycled Republican policies that have helped the wealthy and harmed the middle class in the past and would do so again.

Romney countered that a second Obama term could mean a repeat recession in a country where economic growth has been weak and unemployment is worse now than when the president was inaugurated. A wealthy former businessman, he claimed the knowledge and the skills to put in place policies that would make the economy healthy again.

In a race where the two men disagreed often, one of the principal fault lines was over taxes. Obama campaigned for the renewal of income tax cuts set to expire on Dec. 31 at all income levels except above $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples.

Romney said no one's taxes should go up in uncertain economic times. In addition, he proposed a 20 percent cut across the board in income tax rates but said he would end or curtail a variety of tax breaks to make sure federal deficits didn't rise.

The differences over taxes, the economy, Medicare, abortion and more were expressed in intensely negative advertising.

Obama launched first, shortly after Romney dispatched his Republican foes in his quest for the party nomination.

One memorable commercial showed Romney singing an off-key rendition of "America The Beautiful." Pictures and signs scrolled by saying that his companies had shipped jobs to Mexico and China, that Massachusetts state jobs had gone to India while he was governor and that he has personal investments in Switzerland, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands.

Romney spent less on advertising than Obama. A collection of outside groups made up the difference, some of them operating under rules that allowed donors to remain anonymous. Most of the ads were of the attack variety. But the Republican National Committee relied on one that had a far softer touch, and seemed aimed at voters who had been drawn to the excitement caused by Obama's first campaign. It referred to a growing national debt and unemployment, then said, "He tried. You tried. It's OK to make a change."

More than 30 million voters cast early ballots in nearly three dozen states, a reflection of the growing appeal of getting a jump on the traditional Election Day.


tange 5 years, 5 months ago

I'd like humbly to dedicate this quadrennial favorite to the local 'conservative' contingent and their exaltered icon…

/ Martha
take the
baby home

Joe Hyde 5 years, 5 months ago

Cool song, great musicianship and singing. Thanks!

Liberty275 5 years, 5 months ago

Lucky dog. You probably got to see Nirvana too.

obamasocks 5 years, 5 months ago

The fact they can call it this early, even though Romney currently has more of the popular vote shows just how messed up our election system & the electoral college is. 2 Billion dollars in campaign money; the question is will anything change or will Republicans and Democrats continue to stop each other at ever move in the House and Senate.

Our two-party system has only one party more than the communists...just sayin'.

riverdrifter 5 years, 5 months ago

Hang on on that popular vote deal. More are coming in. And anyway, when your candidate wins the pop and loses the electoral, it sucks and must be changed. Regardless of party.

tomatogrower 5 years, 5 months ago

Democrats had to deal with this in the 2000 election, and talked about changing things, but the Republicans didn't want to. Now maybe they will want to change the system.

Liberty275 5 years, 5 months ago

One libertarian will always happy with the system specified by The Constitution even if he never votes for the winner in a presidential race again.

fiddleback 5 years, 5 months ago

I thought this election was meant to show the GOP what 2004 felt like, but if it also gives them a little taste of 2000, then so be it...

Frankly, they should just be glad that they're not quite yet a hopeless minority. Which should be all the evidence they need to keep doubling-down in their brilliant strategies to happily alienate Hispanics, LGBT Americans, African-Americans, women, Muslims and all other non-Christians, teachers, public servants, scientists, journalists, the working poor, the middle class...

fiddleback 5 years, 5 months ago

Nevermind. Over 2 million votes = just like 2004. But unlike Bush, Obama probably won't be gloating over winning 332 to 206 in the electoral college. Didn't Dubya claim a mandate with only 286 to 251? Meanwhile, Obama actually has to cajole his petulant opposition out of the corner in order to avoid that "fiscal cliff."

And speaking of cliffs, since what goes around seems to be coming around, will another economic unraveling hand the presidency to the GOP in 2016? The apocalyptic fantasies of hyperinflation seem more and more ridiculous, and Hilary looks to be a force to be reckoned with in any case...

Armstrong 5 years, 5 months ago

Enjoy the victory and 4 more years of ...... We are so screwed !

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

Speaking of Kevin, I need to catch up on The Walking Dead.

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

We will enjoy it! hahahahaha

So how many times did you say Romney was going to win? Landslide even? hahahaha

Liberty275 5 years, 5 months ago

Congress will keep him neutered and prevent further damage. The next republican will gut obamacare.

OTOH, 4 more years of 8% unemployment is gonna be annoying.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 5 months ago

"I'm done posting here, and I won't miss it because I have a great life outside of a forum such as this."

Is that why you came back here again to deposit this little turd?

SnakeFist 5 years, 5 months ago

Get lost already. You're nothing but a sore loser.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 5 months ago

While I admire David Burress, it's not self-admiration.

BTW, Kevin, don't you know it's against forum rules to attempt to out another poster (even erroneously?)

Careful-- you might get disappeared. Again.

deec 5 years, 5 months ago

Wow. At least when the Linwood guy threatened to take his ball and go home, he actually did for a few weeks.

bad_dog 5 years, 5 months ago

I have a feeling no one here wanted to play with either one of those balls anyway...

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 5 months ago

"with his 11,000+ posts here, obviously do not."

Hell, Kevin, you've had at least 11,000 different user names here. And that's just the last 12 months.

fiddleback 5 years, 5 months ago

Thanks to markoo for taking JonasGrumby's bet with me, creating pressure for dear little Armstrong to put his money-where-his-mouth-is, or habit-where-his-avatar-is, or whatever. Yeah, I've a hard time imagining that either Jonas and Armstrong will stay gone for long, but it was fun all the same, sorta like watching rabid possums trying to cross the interstate...

Yep, that "hack" Nate Silver is so full of it; who needs math when you have truthiness and idiotic bravado. Just as with fact checkers, we will hardly let the R/R campaign be dictated by statisticians, or really anyone with an IQ over if you'll excuse us, we have a previous commitment to gorge on the leftover cheesecake and caviar from the back of Mitt's fridge in Belmont...

riverdrifter 5 years, 5 months ago

Yep. Same president, house, senate. The country voted status quo. Whatever. Screw this, I'm going pheasant hunting.

Crazy_Larry 5 years, 5 months ago

Really weird, isn't it? Lowest approval ratings ever, but they're re-elected... What gives, America? Are we really this dumb?

Alyosha 5 years, 5 months ago

Lowest approval ratings ever? For whom?

The simple explanation is that in the end, reality won out over FoxNews propaganda. America saw through the BS of "worst president ever" propaganda and rejected the Republican party for the presidency.

It's hard to admit you're wrong, but it couldn't be clearer that you are, in fact, wrong about Obama and wrong about the wisdom of the American electorate.

Crazy_Larry 5 years, 5 months ago

I should have been more clear, although 'lowest approval ratings ever' should have been a clue to what I was talking about--congress. Obama's approval rating is no where near as low as Gee Dub's was. I understand the Democan was selected for a second term by the oligarchs. And your vote meant's called 'the illusion of choice'. It's hard to admit when you're wrong.

"U.S. Congress' Approval Rating at 21% Ahead of Elections--One of lowest heading into an election"

chootspa 5 years, 5 months ago

If the GOP had fielded a better candidate, he or she may well have won.

local_support 5 years, 5 months ago

The financial sector tanks the economy in 2008, so who does the GOP nominate? A guy who has spent his life working in the financial sector.

What a bunch of maroons.

Ron Holzwarth 5 years, 5 months ago

Well, of course! And every time I see your screen name, it looks so wrong, because the generally accepted alliteration of the Yiddish word you're using is: chutzpah.

Picky, picky, picky, aren't I?

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

I hate to say I told you so, but ...

Wait a second, no I don't. I love saying I told you so! It was a pipe dream for those who thought Romney could win. The Republican party is too far right and Romney was too dishonest in his beliefs (whatever they may be).

Now, we have some work to do. Time to continue to grow the economy and bring down the deficit. No more Republicans worrying about making sure Obama isn't re-elected. He has been. Now is the time to work together to fix what is wrong with the country, and that means from both sides. Time to get it done President Obama.

riverdrifter 5 years, 5 months ago

Well said, Bea. I'll rip him if he doesn't get it going second term. BUT, the Repubs are going to have to swing to the middle and work with him. It's known as "working together for the good of the country". We will see.

jafs 5 years, 5 months ago

Unfortunately, even though the D picked up a few seats in the Senate, they still don't have a filibuster proof majority, and R have maintained control of the House.

So, if R continue to simply obstruct, Obama and the D may not be able to do much in his second term.

chootspa 5 years, 5 months ago

They do have enough votes to finally vote for filibuster reform this time around - if they've got the guts to do it.

jafs 5 years, 5 months ago

That's interesting.

Nobody likes filibusters when they have the majority, but everybody does when they don't.

Shardwurm 5 years, 5 months ago

Be careful about your snarkiness...there are no more excuses. No more blaming Bush for everything and putting everything off on other people.

Obama took no responsibility for his failings the last four years - he constantly blamed someone else. How does that work? How come every problem he inherited is Bush's fault, but none of the ones he has is his? Oh yeah, I forgot, that's the liberal mentality - nothing is ever their fault.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 5 years, 5 months ago

Hi Bea,

The thing that really struck me was that they were airing the video clip of Romney claiming to support a woman's choice. Then immediately another video showing him saying he would sign a bill banning abortion . And then saying that he was not aware of any such legislation. Romney speaks out of all 5 sides of his mouth.

4getabouit 5 years, 5 months ago

Wait for it..............oops ....The President wins the popular vote too....

geekin_topekan 5 years, 5 months ago

Jesus made this a reality!! Four more years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Heavenly Father answers all prayers Mitt, this time the answer was--NO!!

jonas_opines 5 years, 5 months ago

I guess if you believe that a Hurricane is God's wrath against Democrats, you're going to lean towards apocalyptic scenarios.

See, this is the trouble with you, LG40. You make one post that no one but a complete, blithering fool would make (Hurricane), and I have no choice but to suspect that you're actually just satire. Then you make others that are too low-key to obviously be satire, and I have no choice but to think that you're serious.

So I guess, ultimately, you're either a genius satirist, or a completely irrational, bitter, angry fool. I guess only you know for sure, in the end.

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

Atheists abandon their children? Silly. America isn't made up of people just like you, thank God (pun intended). This is why the conservatives lost.

bad_dog 5 years, 5 months ago

That's right, cause everyone knows Democrats don't believe in God, America, family and hard work. It must be a genetic thing, huh? I guess there aren't any Ds in the military, clergy, workplace or nuclear families...

Given this pathetic (and quite honestly boorish) perspective on reality, it's little wonder the Rs lost the Presidency and failed to re-gain control of the Senate. Wild aspersions such as these are symbolic of your party's disconnected & poisonous Kool-Aid. That grade school mind-set will continue to be the inherently offensive attitude that alienates independents, minorities & swing voters and will continue providing election night sob fests if you persist in embracing it.

Walk, heck run away from the Limbaugh, Beck, Palins, Bachmanns, et al of the world. Granted there's also no shortage of big-mouth Ds, but I don't listen to or need them to formulate my opinions, values or work ethic.

jonas_opines 5 years, 5 months ago

"I believe you are an atheist liberal, the sort who abandons their child."

Three strikes and an out, all in one sentence. Well done. Not that it gets us any closer to the mystery of whether you're satire or a fool.

A patriot wouldn't celebrate the harm caused to people by natural disasters because they're of different political persuasion. You're not a patriot, you're just a nationalist.

jonas_opines 5 years, 5 months ago

He is well. Not that it's any of your business. Nor am I going to allow him to be used for argumentative fodder on an online message board. You'll get no further responses on that subject at all.

Try to show a little class, if you can.

Pastor_Bedtime 5 years, 5 months ago

Turning the clock back to what? 1950? 1850? The true patriots who absolutely love their country spoke with their votes last night.

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

I'm a liberal. I love America and I love who I am. You are wrong and your party lost in large part because of scary conservatives like you. Your view of what America is never was and never will be. Time to deal with it.

Bob Forer 5 years, 5 months ago

Great thread. Wingnuts Jonas and lawrenceguy are left with hurling insults at each other. What a meltdown. Way too funny. I love it soooooooooooooo much.

Bob Forer 5 years, 5 months ago

I don't fear god, or dog for that matter. I fear idiots like you, who are too stupid to question the propaqanda put out by the repubs.

as they say, elections have consquences. Ta ta, old boy.

Ron Holzwarth 5 years, 5 months ago

If you change that L (for a Liberal, of course) to an R (for a Republican, of course), that can have pretty horrific consequences also.

Or something like that.

Alyosha 5 years, 5 months ago

Obviously you cannot see the hand of God in the provenance of America. God rejected the falseness, the greed, and the mean-spiritedness of Romney and Ryan and the Republicans, and made sure America stays on a righteous Christian path of compassion and help for the least among us.

The atheist Ayn Rand Republican philosophy has been rejected by America, and God is pleased.

5 years, 5 months ago

Congratulations to President Obama. While I do not envy the mess he will inherit when he takes office in January, the states have spoken: he's the man we've tasked with dealing with it.

"I urge first of all that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness." -- 1 Tim 2:1

If you are a praying person, please pray for our President's wisdom, health, and safety. It's not an easy job, and it's not one that I'd want. But it is an important one to each of us, and one that will require all the help he can muster.

Nellane Laney Croan Stussie 5 years, 5 months ago

"the mess he will inherit"

How many years before the mess is considered one of his making?

Maddy Griffin 5 years, 5 months ago

Not until he squanders a 10 billion dollar surplus and turns it into a 10 billion dollar deficit.

Maddy Griffin 5 years, 5 months ago

And Colorado and Washington state just legalized recreational marijuana! Today was a good day!!

Joe Hyde 5 years, 5 months ago

A good day for Colorado and Washington state law enforcement personnel, too. Now the police departments, staffs and officers in those states can focus lots more of their skills, time and resources on traffic law enforcement and actual victim-type interpersonal crimes. Watch and see: this will work out good for Colorado and Washington.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

Saw this cute little meme on Facebook. "Notice, Craigslist has temporarily crashed due to the number of people looking for new roommates in Colorado and Washington."

tomatogrower 5 years, 5 months ago

Bravo America. Now all of you who were elected start working for the people of the US, and try working together. Are we Americans? Or are we political parties?

Sean Livingstone 5 years, 5 months ago

We're screwed for four more years. Why? Not because Obama wins.... we voted in a Democratic Senate, and a Republican House.... and now what? You still want to pass bills? And Congress has 18% approval rate and we're sending the same people back?

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

It requires them working together. It has been done in the past and can be done in the future. I don't like one party rule. We can overcome our problems.

Joe Hyde 5 years, 5 months ago

I fear that you've got it right, livingstone. But I hope we're both wrong. By which I mean, in the next four years I'm hoping for more cooperation and alliances in the Congress, across party lines.

What's at stake is the future of the Republican party. If old-guard Republicans had been in control of their party (and I'm talking pre-Reagan) voters could have been offered a clearly "issue-identifiable" moderate-minded, fiscally conservative candidate. And that Republican candidate might have won the 2012 presidential election if he or she had clearly and honestly distanced from the Tea Party/Evangelical types.

I hope there's an underground movement to restore the real Republican Party. It was pretty cool.

The Tea Party/Evangelical types are what we've presently got in Kansas. But you know, not everybody around the country wants that.

bevy 5 years, 5 months ago

Maybe only for two years. If both sides of the house refuse to come together and DO SOME WORK, we can vote out a sizable chunk of them in two years. They'd better remember that.

progressive_thinker 5 years, 5 months ago

Get ready to vote Obama 2016 [Michelle, that is.....]

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

Clinton / Obama 2016? The ladies' turn.

fiddleback 5 years, 5 months ago

Michelle doesn't have the background, but Warren would be outstanding.

verity 5 years, 5 months ago

Actually, I think that Warren IS the right person for president in 2016. Hillary will be 69 and I think she's probably tired of the whole thing. She also, unfortunately, just doesn't have enough charisma, although she is more experienced than any other person at this point. Warren has charisma in spades, she comes across as being totally forthright, and she can get by with being adamant without seeming strident (extremely important for a woman, of course).

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 5 months ago

Anybody got a link to the on-screen meltdown on Fox?

jonas_opines 5 years, 5 months ago

That particular nut is just not worth trying to crack, in the end. Had to swear it off when he started cyberstalking me to find and post pictures of my wife with derogatory comments on her appearance.

jafs 5 years, 5 months ago

Actually, it's interesting that so many women voted for Romney.

More than I would have expected.

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

Romney being gracious in his concession speech. How nice.

Of course, you know he wasn't like this back in the hotel room, when he was storming around, saying "Shucks, this stinks! H.E. double hockey sticks, this is messed up! Darn it!"

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

Not like the volcano eruption from Donald Trump, huh?

JHOK32 5 years, 5 months ago

Halleluyah! My faith in this country's wisdom has been restored once again! It appears that the bitter & massive mess that George W. Bush inflicted on our economy has enlightened the masses. It also sends a very loud & strong message to Mr.Romney that all of his millions of dollars cannot buy an election afterall ! - now lets hope that Kansans take heed & get rid of this A*hole that was elected Governor who EVERY Kansan knows by now is simply a Koch puppet taking money out of the hands of the poor & giving it to the top 1% of the very wealthy - this we will not stand anymore! We are fed up with Mr. B & his days are numbered! How this man can scrw the truly poor & disabled & then go to church the next day as a "Christian" is beyond my comprehension - he will truly pay for his actions someday soon for this life is but a blink of an eye - there will come a time to answer someone way more powerful than you are sir!

uncleandyt 5 years, 5 months ago

Minimal trolls so far. I'm happy to imagine that a few of them are gulping down tall glasses of shut-up juice. Wrong again, ditto heads. Can you see a pattern??

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

More like gulping down multiple glasses of grain based ethanol.

fiddleback 5 years, 5 months ago

You can partially thank markoo and me, at least for the absences of JonasGrumby and Armstrong, who bet their stupid little posting habits on 1-and-done...

Kathy Theis-Getto 5 years, 5 months ago

Be careful Ag. We both know all too well how dangerous cyberstalkers can be. Let this be a lesson to another out there up to her old tricks. YOU ARE BEING MONITORED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

If you think after almost four years of ridiculous statements about how Obama won't ever be re-elected doesn't deserve some smack right now, then you haven't been reading the ugly comments on these boards.

obamasocks 5 years, 5 months ago

Obama,ok, but 4 more years of Biden? Sigh...

Bob Forer 5 years, 5 months ago

Suck on this, Armstrong, Jonas, et al. Elections have consequences. Have you considered voluntary deportation? I'd start with Afghanistan. The Taliban are your ideological counterparts.

jonas_opines 5 years, 5 months ago

Alternatively, you might just be wrong.

Alyosha 5 years, 5 months ago

This is exactly the kind of non-thinking, fed by FoxNews, that was rejected last night.

Seriously, get out more, listen to more people, find more sources of information than FoxNews. You're confused and outraged because the information Fox has been feeding you has been proven to be false.

America rejected the kind of nonsense this comment represents, and good thing it did.

fiddleback 5 years, 5 months ago

Idiocracy is indeed alive in the form of chicken littles like yourself, hateful apoplectic conservatives who refused to acknowledge the karmic echo of 2004 until it finally smacked them upside the head...

And I hereby demand that you immediately replace that Beatles avatar. Paul and Ringo would certainly have nothing to do with your parroted rubbish. Go find a pic of Ted Nugent if you want to spout such bile.

chootspa 5 years, 5 months ago

Well, Pakistan is a little disappointed, anyway. The rest of the world seems to be in more agreement on this. Source:

deec 5 years, 5 months ago

Obama's continuation of Bush's repressive policies is one thing that needs to end.

fiddleback 5 years, 5 months ago

Like I said above, the fact that R/R came remotely close in the popular vote is really all the evidence that the hard-right will need to keep doubling-down on their brilliant strategy to simultaneously alienate Hispanics, LGBT Americans, African-Americans, women, Muslims and all other non-Christians, teachers, public servants, scientists, journalists, the working poor, the middle class...

Yes, the close popular vote is a blessing in disguise helping to ensure that the GOP won't attempt to expand their demographic appeal. Thus their oh-crap-we're-becoming-a-permanently-shrinking-minority realization is now at least another 4 years away.

verity 5 years, 5 months ago

I have been trying so hard not to gloat---oh, what the hell.

Obama, Warren, McCaskill, Tammy Baldwin, Tammy Duckworth, Sherrod Brown, Joe Donelly---the list goes on, and it looks like Allen West is losing to a 29-year-old.

Seems God doesn't like rape.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

And ALAN GRAYSON IS BACK IN THE HOUSE! (Doing the Snoopy dance.)

Bob Forer 5 years, 5 months ago

Go ahead and gloat. I am, and I feel absolutely no shame. gloating is good, especially when it is the celebration of good vs. evil.

verity 5 years, 5 months ago

I but I can hear it. Can't fool me, tange.

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

No, just four more years of cleaning up the mess Bush left behind. Forward!

msezdsit 5 years, 5 months ago

four more years of not having bush all over again. Sageon, gumby,275, Larrry, and on and on. You got your butts handed to you. America won.

Thank god romney can take his cheaters and go away. No more false threats and scare tactics. Actually, it was a blow out .

Hoots 5 years, 5 months ago

Many of my Facebook friends from other countries are laughing at us right now. They are looking at this fishbowl from the outside and they think we're a bunch of dumb guppies. They already think most Americans are idiots anyway. I've given up on politics in this country. As Lewis Black says..."It's the same bowl of crap looking at itself in the mirror"

progressive_thinker 5 years, 5 months ago

Gee, got lots of friends in Pakistan? A recent BBC poll showed that Pakistan was the only country where there was any sort of support for Romney. All of my friends in other countries think that Romney is nothing but a total jerk, if not a tax evading criminal.

I travel overseas frequently, and the only negative comments that I ever heard about Obama have been from American tourists, and yes, the locals thought that they were total fools for making such comments.

Frederic Gutknecht IV 5 years, 5 months ago

Wow. Your friends are laughing because their preferred candidate lost? That seems somewhat idiotic. Birds of a feather???

purplesage 5 years, 5 months ago

Job 3:25 reads, "What I feared has come upon me, what I dreaded has happened to me." This nation has chosen a course that disrespects life and dishonors marriage. We will see government rationed healthcare, higher taxes, increasing socialism, and growing government. We have now Obama unchecked by the need to run for reelection. What a terrible mistake America has made.

fiddleback 5 years, 5 months ago

Long time no see, Sagey... Remember kids, don't feed trolls, esp. the Bible-thumping ones... Job LOL. Remember 2004 and enjoy.

Liberty275 5 years, 5 months ago

Win some, lose some. The house should keep obama in check.

Jim Johnson 5 years, 5 months ago

Well the dumbing down is complete. Now I wish to hear what all of you have to say in four years. I guess we will now find out what he was talking about to the Russian and where he was when the Ambassador and the others were slaughtered. Right? The old saying "watch out what you wish for" will be repeated over and over in your heads.

msezdsit 5 years, 5 months ago

Yep the sky is falling. how are those grapes tasting today jinksie.

msezdsit 5 years, 5 months ago

The house has achieved their goal. Obama won't win another term so now they have to do something. If they play anti obama this time they will get sent home in 2 years. Obama will just by pass them

Richard Heckler 5 years, 5 months ago


Please consider this for the USA:

An Economic Bill of Rights

  • Universal Social Security: Taxable Basic Income Grants for all, structured into the progressive income tax, that guarantee an adequate income sufficient to maintain a modest standard of living. Start at $500/week ($26,000/year) for a family of four, with $62.50/week ($3,250/year) adjustments for more or fewer household members in 2000 and index to the cost of living.

  • Jobs for All: A guaranteed right to job. Full employment through community-based public works and community service jobs programs, federally financed and community controlled.

  • Living Wages: A family-supporting minimum wage. Start at $12.50 per hour in 2000 and index to the cost of living.

  • 30-Hour Work Week: A 6-hour day with no cut in pay for the bottom 80% of the pay scale.

  • Social Dividends: A "second paycheck" for workers enabling them to receive 40 hours pay for 30 hours work. Paid by the government out of progressive taxes so that social productivity gains are shared equitably.

  • Universal Health Care: A single-payer National Health Program to provide free medical and dental care for all, with freedom of choice for consumers among both conventional and alternative health care providers, federally financed and controlled by democratically elected local boards.

  • Free Child Care: Available voluntarily and free for all who need it, modeled after Head Start, federally financed, and community controlled.

  • Lifelong Public Education: Free, quality public education from pre-school through graduate school at public institutions.

  • Affordable Housing: Expand rental and home ownership assistance, fair housing enforcement, public housing, and capital grants to non-profit developers of affordable housing until all people can obtain decent housing at no more than 25% of their income. Democratic community control of publicly funded housing programs.

The Green Party = economic growth = this is where to build bridges.

melott 5 years, 5 months ago

I am so sad. I will have to wait at least 4 years longer for the Zombie Apocalypse.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 5 months ago

Republicans have never been about smaller government and have never reduced the size of government nor reduced the size of spending ever. In fact it has been quite the opposite. Republicans are not paying attention. Republicans are getting used every day.

Considering the party of NO is still running the house I will encourage President Obama to step up and make use of his executive privilege throughout the next 4 years.

The republicans of which they are NOT do not wish to build bridges. Tearing down bridges has been their claim to fame since Reagan/Bush. Don't waste time on matters that cannot succeed. The nation cannot afford another 4 years of NO

Paul R Getto 5 years, 5 months ago

Congratulations, Mr. President. Now let us all get to work for our country.

cmheck 5 years, 5 months ago

America, we are in so much trouble. Four more years of hell! Can't wait for gas prices to go back through the roof next week now that the campaign is over....

Pastor_Bedtime 5 years, 5 months ago

I'd like to thank all the little people who made this possible: Romney, Aiken, Mourdock, that Josh Rankin dweeb, and the many radical zealots on this very board who in their many incarnations demonstrated the true colors of modern nanny-state conservatism. Brownback and Tea Baggers, take heed. You're next to go.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

Snap? Oh, snap, where are you?
Remember, hon, the best hangover cures are tomato juice, vitamins and lots of water.

headdoctor 5 years, 5 months ago

I have been listening to the national Republican mouth pieces mumbling as they pick humbly at their cold plate of crow. Even though some are talking change I will have to see it to believe it. I am not so sure they learned anything from this election. If anything the modern Republicans have done a lot of damage to a sizable number of voters that may never come back to support the party.

Paul R Getto 5 years, 5 months ago

Thoughts from the Bard.

This could apply to either "son" in the recent election.
We must stop the madness on both sides and learn to work together.

"This business is well ended. My liege, and madam, to expostulate What majesty should be, what duty is, Why day is day, night night, and time is time, Were nothing but to waste night, day and time. Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit, And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes, I will be brief: your noble son is mad: Mad call I it; for, to define true madness, What is't but to be nothing else but mad? But let that go."

Lord Polonius, Hamlet Act 2, Scene 2.

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 5 months ago

This is a great day for America and all Americans.

Four more years is a statement of fact.

Bob Forer 5 years, 5 months ago

You're a sore loser. Now go home, and take your ball with you.

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

So why didn't you support him at any point in the past four years? Are you really saying that at no point in the past term was he responsible? That suggests that either the majority of voters are just wrong, or that you have your blinders on by refusing to see the good Obama has done.

Mormons overwhelmingly voted for Romney -- does that mean they are racist against Obama, or just religiously bigoted against non-Mormons?

To answer it myself, I don't believe either is true. It was the first time they had the opportunity to vote for someone like themselves, someone from a group who have previously been kept out of the process. Blacks voting for Obama are not doing so out of a feeling of racial superiority, which is the definition of racism.

And can I note that the issue of race is not being brought up by a liberal or Obama supporter, as is so often claimed. It is once again coming first from a conservative.

Bob Forer 5 years, 5 months ago

"To answer it myself, I don't believe either is true. It was the first time they had the opportunity to vote for someone like themselves, someone from a group who have previously been kept out of the process. Blacks voting for Obama are not doing so out of a feeling of racial superiority, which is the definition of racism."

Well put, Bea, well put!!!!!

And yes, I am gloating. Gloating is good for the soul.

roadrash 5 years, 5 months ago

Can hardly wait to listen to Hate Radio this morning!

geekin_topekan 5 years, 5 months ago

Boy, some people sure hate Democracy don't they?

Hate radio should be especially hilarious this morning!! Hahaha!

Jesus prevailed and gave us Four More Years!!!!!!!!!!!

Anthony Mall 5 years, 5 months ago

How or what made people vote for Obama??? Every American citizen will now pay more for healthcare(mine goes up 55 a month), big employers have already announced they are filling full-time positions with part-time help to save the added cost, the man did nothing in 4 years besides blame his predecessor for every little thing, and get this country in more debt then any president before him... It is apparent liberals voted on party lines instead of the issues, or just flat out didn't do any research on who they elected... Just waiting to see who gets blamed for the last four years of failures...

Alyosha 5 years, 5 months ago

The simpler and more plausible explanation is that your projections/beliefs have little to do with reality, just like all the folks' who said Romney would win in a landslide.

If FoxNews were my source of information, which leads to such wildly wrong predictions and lack of understanding of reality, I'd feel quite pissed off that they did not give real information or truth, but rather only partisan propaganda.

Simple truth is, America rejected the kind of beliefs and analysis this comment is based on. That's hard to take, but instead of asserting falsely that the electorate didn't know what they were doing, or voted purely based on party, a more adult view would accept that you were, simply, wrong, and admit that your understanding was incorrect and your beliefs way out of whack compared to reality.

Anthony Mall 5 years, 5 months ago

Way to defend your president... in fact between fox and CNN and 3 newspapers a day you can find the truth somewhere in the middle!!! every news source is left or right based depending how it benefits them... I did notice like everyone else here that you didn't disagree with any of the facts, you just defended policy and assume like most of the uninformed that I watch fox news... Once again proving that liberals can't explain why they voted for Obama.... More debt, more part-time jobs, more spending, and bigger govt is what you voted for, yet you hate when the govt interferes with your life??? Makes sence

Anthony Mall 5 years, 5 months ago

For more facts you could turn to cnbc and watch the market crash... down 187 points and falling... America needs to wake up and stop the govt from spending money we dont have, get back to work instead of allowing people to staying on the govt handouts for extended periods of time, and insurance costs, these are facts!!!! try reading multiple sources versus spewing liberal crap everywhere... oh, down 200 now!!! this probably doesn't effect you, but for a majority of us its bad... Pay more, spend more= less hiring of full-time employees...

headdoctor 5 years, 5 months ago

I think you are purposely being obtuse to benefit a tantrum. Looks like there were several voters who did do some research. The liberals could not have won the election for Obama alone. There had to be several conservatives voting for him as well. Pissing off the female and Latino voters was not a smart plan. If the Republicans want to remain viable they will have to scrap their national platform, reverse the war on women and field someone that is more moderate who will stay that way once elected. The Republicans don't have anyone to blame but their own actions.

As far as the temper tantrums that have been threatened by employers. Let them do it and see how far it gets them in the long run. Some of those employers making threats don't employ that many Americans. What are they going to do? It wont help them here by cutting back the over seas laborer hours.

Bryan Moore 5 years, 5 months ago

RC79, I guess your experience is a little different than mine. My medical insurance went down for this coming year by 36.50 a month for my family of four (BC/BS), and by 41.50 if you throw in vision and dental - plus my co-pays dropped by five dollars each. My company has hundreds of full time US jobs unfilled (though I will admit that we have none in Kansas but I think that says more about Kansas than the company) and thousands open if you don't mind spending some time in the 100+ countries we work in around the world. Almost all these jobs pay well above the US median average. We need engineers, architects, project managers, finance people, accountants, technicians, surveyors, interpreters, office staff, mechanics, we even have jobs cleaning guns and maintaining armories for the gun lovers on here. My point is that if you work for a big box store, a fast food restaurant or some other job where you are just an easily replacable cog in the machine then yes they will do everything they can to pay you as little as possible and they will pass your healthcare costs onto you or the taxpayer if they can. But if you have or can obtain the skills that are in demand in the marketplace (many of our positions require only a high school education or two year degree) you still can have a good job with a livable wage and benefits. What happened to pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and quit blaming "the man" for where your life is and where it is going?

somedude20 5 years, 5 months ago

Congrats ain't the best but worlds better than Willard!! And thanks to America, I had thought that the tide had shifted but was happy to see that not all Mercians are dumb!!!!

headdoctor 5 years, 5 months ago

Once the hand wringing stops I can't wait to see the batch of nut jobs the Republicans will try to roll out in 2016. The party has shown their true colors by moving so far to the right. I don't think I could ever trust them to field someone that was truly close to the middle. There is to much chance they would turn tea bagger once they were elected.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

We watched ABC for election results. Now I wish we had watched the meltdown on Fox.
Lots of friends are sharing posts from their friends/family/acquaintances/etc., threatening to leave the country. I'm not exactly sure where they intend to go, since every other developed country in the free world either has socialized medicine or single payer health care. I also think the price of gas (10$/US gallon in Britain) would send them into shock.
I have a question or two left. Everybody and his aunt knew Kansas would go for Romney,. That was a no brainer. But by how much did he win? Those numbers could be pretty indicative of any shift, especially against Brownback.

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

I watched Fox. It was amazing how quickly they turned on Romney, calling his campaign the worst "ever." They also acted like they saw it coming all along. Comedy gold on Fox.

progressive_thinker 5 years, 5 months ago

Cait: I hear that there are great opportunities for "small government" in Haiti and Somalia. There is no requirement to purchase health care either.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

Do you think this would be any different if Romney had won? America was facing that "fiscal cliff" no matter what,
This country is cumulatively nine trillion dollars in debt. But you can only lay about two trillion of it at Obama's feet and I can PROVE it. Go to the website of the Congressional Budget Office. It breaks down and details, not just the amount of debt, but the SOURCES of that debt. The vast bulk of it comes from a combination of ten years of unfunded war (that to a certain extent is STILL going on) and Bush era tax cuts that were recklessly put in place during a time of war. The CBO isn't exactly Fox News or Huffington Post. It's pretty darned hard to argue with their facts and figures (but I expect you to try).

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

"Is there a term limit on blaming Bush?"

No. It is like asking, is there a term limit for blaming Germany and Japan for World War II? To pretend we don't know why we are in the mess we are in is to deny history, and as we already know, those who refuse to learn from history are destined to repeat it. We cannot all pretend to be at the Republican National Convention and deny that Bush ever happened.

GMSkarka 5 years, 5 months ago

Stating a fact is not "blame" -- Bush drove the country off a cliff, and it's taking a ton of work to get it back on track. That's not blame. Every economist in the world says that we were nearly at total economic collapse, and we've been slowly crawling out.

You'd think that getting shellacked last night would teach you to pay attention to facts, instead of what your idealogical bubble is saying.

fiddleback 5 years, 5 months ago

Well LarryN, it appears that America tends to vote for the guy who seems more earnest and less of a lying “slime ball” – ultimately both Kerry and even more so Romney were political weathervanes. As far how long can we blame Bush, well, when you invade a country primarily 'cuz you just really hate that one guy, and simultaneously give tax cuts primarily to the rich, it does tend to cost a fricking crap load, and really lengthens the political statute of limitations. Can you even argue with the CBO's math? Romney, by the way, was not in the least serious about the deficit--unless you buy into discredited trickle down magic.

Now we'll see if Obama can offer the leadership to get past this fiscal cliff. Obviously the true test of whether he deserved another term is yet ahead.

headdoctor 5 years, 5 months ago

And what new....old player do we have here. Some of you people really do need to seek help.

deec 5 years, 5 months ago

I think one or two people have resurrected a spare past i.d.

progressive_thinker 5 years, 5 months ago

And now it is time for our president to stand firm on the notion of raising taxes on the wealthiest 1%, and for reigning in military spending. The market will come back.

The world is laughing, but not at our president. The world laughs at the Tea-publican party and Fox.

Alyosha 5 years, 5 months ago

Actually, if you'd consult non Fox News info sources, "the world" is generally quite pleased we elected a sober-minded pragmatist again.

This is one of those kinds of beliefs that got Republicans into trouble and lead to their loss of the Presidency — the inability to see reality clearly and make decisions based thereupon.

The world, as you put it, actually preferred Obama over Romney. The world prefers its sole hyper power to be rational and reality-based, not ideological and dangerous. Hence they preferred Obama.

FYI - unemployment is going down in the US and continues to go up in Europe. Europe will be following Obama's policies, not the other way around.

jonas_opines 5 years, 5 months ago

Oops, guess Gotland finally got booted?

Fred Whitehead Jr. 5 years, 5 months ago

Yay, Big Bird is safe, for at least "four more years"!!!

Limbaugh had it on his website "Romney Landslide!!!!"


Puss Bimbo loses again!!!!!!

Now he has all that cheap Chinese crap to move!


Fred Whitehead Jr. 5 years, 5 months ago

Was on there last night. Gone now.



"The truth shall make you free"

progressive_thinker 5 years, 5 months ago


I thought the sound was more like a flushing toilet.....

Yes, it's a great day......

Steve Miller 5 years, 5 months ago

exactly, 4 more years of "the flushing toliet".

msezdsit 5 years, 5 months ago

what a great day. When America needed to step up and do the right thing, she did. We dodged a death wish from going back to the bush policies. Why anyone could have ever believed they would work if we just tried them again. Trickle down is dead and buried finally. I guess a few "I told you so for those of you who earned one with your vitriol and hate campaign. Obamacare anyone???

blindrabbit 5 years, 5 months ago

If moderate and progressive GOP types were wise they would join with moderate, progressive Democrats to stop this self defeating slide of the right-wing GOP'ers to eventual unimportance. The population dynamic is not headed in the direction that will assure the long-term survivability of the Kansas GOP. Kansas will eventually drift further into irrevalence in the US political future as these bigoted ideas are rejected by the large population heft from outside the State. In the 1960's Kansas had 6 US congresspersons, now only 4 and a decrease in the Electoral College from 8 to 6 (now).The population of Kansas is not growing fast enough in comparison to to the rest of the country to reverse this trend. As a current progressive Republican, I see the old GOP of the past slipping away into obscurity.

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

Just think how that will help the flag industry. Very cool.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

Got this little graphic from a friend. Douglas County went to Obama (an "uh-duh" there. Were they the only one in the state?) But you can also see just exactly where the Romney bastion was in the county. Right there behind the walls of their gated communities.

msezdsit 5 years, 5 months ago

oh what a wonderful day it is in the neighborhood. Wonder what the mittster is doing today. thank god he has a little more time on his hands now.

Bob Forer 5 years, 5 months ago

The Mittster deserves to be knighted. His new name: Count DeMonet.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

One of the best quotes from media I have seen yet.
Matthew Dowd, who was a top adviser in the re-election campaign of President George W. Bush, said on ABC’s “Good Morning America” that the Republican Party had become a “'Mad Men’ party in a ‘Modern Family’ America.”

Clara Westphal 5 years, 5 months ago

Obama is president again which means we are stuck with Holder as AG. He was never punished for giving arms to the Mexican cartels. It was just brushed under the rug. He should have been tried for treason.

local_support 5 years, 5 months ago

Thanks for posting this Ag, I heard about the meltdown but had not seen it until now.

Linda Endicott 5 years, 5 months ago

I thought it was very funny to see that Romney LOST in Massachusetts...Obama 61%, Romney 38%...wait a minute...I thought he said he did such a wonderful job there as governor, and everything was so great in the state...

What happened?

Congratulations to President Obama and all his supporters...I woke up smiling this morning...

Linda Endicott 5 years, 5 months ago

Good heavens...Romney/Ryan lost in Wisconsin, too...Obama 52 %, Romney 46%...

Were they lying about how much their own states liked them? Could it be?....

Pretty bad when the Republicans can't even win the election in their own

Bryan Moore 5 years, 5 months ago

The crazy thing is the GOP had the right man. They could have won this if they let Romney be who he was, a moderate centrist who did work with the other side in Mass. He put in place a healthcare system that polls well in the state. He was pro-choice. He had the credentials to say he could run the economy better than Obama. He's a man of faith and family. He was up against a President that had presided over high unemployment, that had scandals popping up left and right and that had little to no plan for changing what he was already doing in his second term. If the party faithful would have gotten behind him he could have pulled in moderates and Independents and this could have been a fish in a barrel situation. But the far right wouldn't have it. He had to go and try to out extreme the extremist of the party in the primaries to get the base to back him. Unfortunately for him that made him less palatatable to those moderates and independents he had to have to win. He had to go so far right that getting back to the middle was too great a task. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face! These idiots on the far right not only could but did just screw up a wet dream!

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

I like the "Gilead Party". Nice little tip 'o the hat to Margaret Atwood.

fiddleback 5 years, 5 months ago

I assure you, the far right is most certainly anti-wet dream. No ejaculation before marriage-- no excuses!

I basically agree with your gist; it becomes ever more laughable to watch the political contortions required of GOP candidates as they first pander to the religious right during the primaries only to try to tack center in time to convince enough independents. In attempting this, Romney was already at a major disadvantage, having earned the reputation as a desperate hack who will say anything. Yes, the party only has a future if it puts appealing to the more intelligent moderates ahead of the pleasing the radical rubes.

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

azjh, I don't feel Romney ever gave the far right a chance to accept him as a moderate centrist. He chose to run to the far right in search of votes. Had he remained a centrist, he might have been selected anyway given how far right the others were -- I mean, were they really going to pick Santorum? (I don't think so.) It isn't the party as much as it is the candidate. Ron Paul didn't change his views based on his audience, so why did Romney? The fact that he was the type to change his views depending on his audience speaks volumes about the individual, and that came through in the general election.

Had Romney remained true to a centrist platform all along, I believe he would have won the nomination and would likely be President-elect today.

GMSkarka 5 years, 5 months ago


MMMMMMM, Tasty. by GMSkarka

Been waiting to post this one for Dolph and his buddies.

verity 5 years, 5 months ago

I woke up this morning and Bronco Bama had still won. I just can't help smiling.

More good news---Heidi Heitkamp wins in North Dakota. Another woman in that manliest of institutions and it brings the D majority to 53.

Tim Kaine wins in Virginia, John Tester in Montana, Chris Murphy in Connecticut.

U.S. Rep. Allen West lost by 2,456 votes to Democrat Patrick Murphy, but refuses to concede.

Jon Stewart: "'Claire McCaskill Has Legitimately Raped Todd Akin." I apologize proactively if that offends anybody.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

My favorite comment was, "Todd Akin has lost his bid for the Senate. I guess when you're a "legitimate &**hole" trying to get into the Senate, the female body has ways of shutting that whole thing down."

Amy Heeter 5 years, 5 months ago

I'm just glad the political advertising has ended. It doesn't matter who's holding the office. We are all going to die.

Amy Heeter 5 years, 5 months ago

Actually yes since its winter break. But truthfully I just wanted to throw alittle impending doom in there since it looks to me like everyone posting on this story it tripping big time.

Kathy Theis-Getto 5 years, 5 months ago

"So why would you care To get out of this place

You and me and all our friends Such a happy human race

Eat, drink and be merry For tomorrow we die"

blindrabbit 5 years, 5 months ago

One of the best things to come out of the election yesterday was the fact that the State of Florida ultimately had no impact on the outcome of the Presidental vote (not called yet). A State with Rick Scott as Governor and miasma of the past including the "Orange Juice Queen", Kathleen Harris and the screw-ups in the 2000, 2004 and 2008 votes speak to a State that has no business being as influential as it has become.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

I saw this last night. "In the end, Obama learned what Gore didn't. The best way to beat Florida is to make it irrelevant."

weeslicket 5 years, 5 months ago

ok, ok... know what my second favorite thing was about the election? thinking of all those millions upon millions of dollars that karl rove, sheldon anderson, the koch brothers, and all the other brokers of financial entitlement pissed away.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 5 months ago

Actually, the way I look at it is, I think of the millions they pumped into the economy instead of letting it sit in off shore bank accounts gathering dust.

blindrabbit 5 years, 5 months ago

The invitees to the GOP post-election, Kool Aide and Koch-a-Kolas will be served...

Promoters: Dick Morris, John Sununu, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Don Trump (who was trumped), Mitch McConnell, Karl Rove, Rudy Guliani, Mike Huckabee, Lou Dobbs

Hosters: Roger Ailes, Chuck and Dave Koch, Robert Murdock, Sheldon Adelson

Magicians: John McCain and Mitt Romney (will demonstrate flip flopping)

Entertainers: Todd Akin, Richard Mourdock, Rich Santorum,

Historian: Newt Gingrich (will be absent) he is exploring a trip to the Moon or Mars.

Hotties: Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, and a host of blonde ditsy female Faux reporters

jhawkinsf 5 years, 5 months ago

As of this hour, and I know the final numbers are not yet in, but Obama has just under 60.5 million votes and Romney has just over 57.6 million votes. I'd say our divided country is still divided. Obama is still our President, Republicans still control the House, Democrats still control the Senate, Brownback is still the Governor, Jenkins is still our Congressperson, etc.

akt2 5 years, 5 months ago

Prepare for Obamacare. It's going to be ugly. So much for supporting your family and providing medical coverage for them. They will be in line and on the waiting lists with all the newly entitled. Emergency rooms will be a nightmare. They already are because that's where people go who don't have insurance. Now it will be the newly entitled that can't find a doctor that is taking new patients, or they won't want to wait 2 weeks or a month to get an appointment if they can find a doctor. Figure a doctor can see 4 existing patients an hour, at 15 min a patient. If they work 9 hours that's 36 patients that actually get to see a doctor. Tack on 36 more for their physician assistant, and 36 more for the nurse practitioner. A little more than 100. Then triple it. Because that's how many people will be trying to get in a day. Everything else triples too. Signatures, orders, scripts, phone calls, referrals, release of information, billing, follow-ups, lab tests and diagnostics. The system is going to implode. You can either look at it as job security, or get the hell out now and be glad you did.

Trumbull 5 years, 5 months ago

This is all Fear based nonsense. A friend told me he was going to go out of business because of ObomaCare. I asked him how many employees he had. He said "three". Another friend blamed Obamacare because her premiun went up.....even though premiums have been increasing for many many years.

Misinformation and fear....put out by FOX news.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 5 months ago

The repub party declared the day Obama was elected their primary function would be to make Obama a one term president. Consequently their millions of NO votes became the disastrous campaign against women,The USA and jobs for Americans. ]

Looks like a repeat performance thus far. Can we say Deja Vu?

Yes they are doing more diversion than ever from the issues of jobs,the economy and more jobs.

We're back to sex lives of generals and a made up Libyan scandal.

Few things will ever compare to how the 9/11/01 got pulled off right in front of the Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rummy noses? What were they doing?

How about the Bush/Cheney and Reagan/Bush home loan scams?

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