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Letters to the Editor

Multiple atrocities

May 18, 2012

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To the editor:

I’ve noticed there are fewer “letters to the editor” recently and wonder if, like me, people find it difficult to decide which atrocity to address.

Our government and Legislature are trying to drive our country into a Libertarian society, which means “every man for himself” (and woman). That means no public services except for the police (to protect wealthy owners’ property) and no public education except the technical kind which produces workers for factories and businesses. The liberal arts education, which our colleges used to provide, encourages and teaches students to THINK, an activity dangerous to those who like the security of dogma.

Legislatures all over the country are receiving “model bills” that they only have to copy, sign and introduce. These bills take power from the federal government; they redistribute wealth in the form of less taxation of the wealthy and more taxes for the middle and lower classes.

ALEC, a “nonprofit” political organization, supplements the salaries of elected officials through “scholarships” to include them in their conferences, keeping contributions flowing to the Republican Party through their influence.

ALEC, approximately 40 years old, has only recently become widely known. Its activities should be carefully watched.

Comments

1 year, 11 months ago

@rtwngr: re your 0825 on 20 May.

Denying women prescribed medicines because of "religious beliefs" or "conscience" is telling women what they can do with their bodies.

Lying to women who are your patients for the same "reasons" is telling women what they can do with their bodies.

Denying women a choice is telling women what they can do with their bodies.

In short, the war on women is a FACT!

Go back to your bunker and listen to your Faux News lies and continue to download their talking points so you'll know what to say online.

Go back and look at my original post to which you threw talking points. I ask you the same two questions I asked BAA. I got no reply from him/her/it; perhaps you would like to reply.

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Leslie Swearingen 1 year, 11 months ago

LOL put the shoe on both feet? And, then hop on over to Freestate for a cold one.

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juma 1 year, 11 months ago

OK, let us put the shoe on both feet; what about ACORN? If there ever was a one-sided government funded group this was it.

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1 year, 11 months ago

@rc1977 re: your 1426 You responded with your typical talking points, but didn't answer my questions. Care to let us know why you didn't? Also, care to tell us why I'm not surprised you couldn't respond?

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Liberty_One 1 year, 11 months ago

"Our government and Legislature are trying to drive our country into a Libertarian society"

As if. They are just shifting the tax burden from one source to another. When you see that banks are no longer allowed to commit fraud, then we'd actually be getting closer to a libertarian society.

"a Libertarian society, which means “every man for himself”"

No, a libertarian society means voluntary cooperation of society instead of violent intervention into society. That means that people help each other, as we do, without the government trying to tell people how to live their lives.

"That means no public services"

That means better services. The government is not known for efficient and friendly service. (DMV, TSA, LAPD etc.)

"(to protect wealthy owners’ property)"

Everyone owns property, not just the wealthy.

"no public education"

You mean no more of this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/09/texas-police-schools and no more of this: http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/47708/1/

How awful that children won't be subject to such treatment anymore.

"except the technical kind which produces workers for factories and businesses"

You mean actual training for a real job? Gosh, it's so obvious that teaching kids to sit behind a desk until their 24 so they can become a waiter is so much better.

"encourages and teaches students to THINK"

Public education teaches students to OBEY, not to think.

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1 year, 11 months ago

@BAA (or should I say Sheeple) re: your 0622 "The Dims are doing their absolute best to divide this country. OWS, War on Women, War on the Wealthy, class envy, War on Christianity, War of the Races, etc, etc... They want to talk about anything but this administration's incompetency and abysmal record. When will national discussion turn to real issues and this President's poor record of accomplishment?

I contend your Faux News talking points are some of the real reasons for the division in this country. OWS was /is a reaction to the excesses of Wallstreet, Big Banking and other corporations too large to reasonably exist in society. They run rough shod over the lowly consumer and average citizen. A case in point happened recently when JP Morgan "mistakenly" foreclosed on an old woman's house, changed the lock and took a lifetime's worth of memories. Morgan's response was essentially, too bad, so sad.

The War on Women is all but a fact. The GOP denying women the right to make decisions concerning their own bodies. Even to the point of holding physicians harmless if they lie because of their own "religious beliefs." Even to the point of allowing pharmacists to decide whether or nor women can take contraceptives. What's next, condoms?

Your other examples are simply fear mongering on the part of the GOP and their news mouthpiece, Faux News. If I can't win them over on the basis of fact, then I'll strike fear into their hearts and scare them into voting for me.

I ask you some questions and I'd really like you to think about your responses.

  1. What would your reaction be if the TEA Party were staging sit-ins and protests as the OWS did? How would you react if the government bulldozed them out of where they were?

  2. Why did you and others wait until a black president was elected before you started your war of the races comments and bunker mentality?

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rockchalk1977 1 year, 11 months ago

Fleabagger alert. Moving out of the state/country may be less stressful for you Ms. Anderson. But simply whining about it without taking any action is the real atrocity. Liberals are generally big talkers but that's where it ends.

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Liberty275 1 year, 11 months ago

"Our government and Legislature are trying to drive our country into a Libertarian society"

What's the hold up?

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Fossick 1 year, 11 months ago

"The liberal arts education, which our colleges used to provide, encourages and teaches students to THINK, an activity dangerous to those who like the security of dogma."

So much trouble in a single sentence! To say that our colleges "used to provide" a liberal arts education is to say they do not provide one now, which I suspect would come as a real surprise to those half-dozen state institutions who continue to issue BAs, MAs, and PhDs at a feverish pace. I just picked up an MA from one of them myself, in history (graduate dean's academic honors, Phi Alpha Theta, Phi Kappa Phi, four graduate awards for research, and a distinguished thesis finalist). I'm happy to report to our octogenarian author* that Kansas colleges are still teaching people to think. Most of us think quite well, thank you.

But the funny thing is the sanctimonious liberal assumption that dogma and thinking are somehow enemies. And it's not funny because those accused of following a dogma actually think, but because those who claim they think follow a dogma, a set of talking points that have very little to do with reality. They are depressingly predictable, never, ever stepping outside the lines of allowable opinion.

Clue for the author: cutting marginal tax rates is not an "atrocity." Additional (and unnecessary) burdens on abortion providers are not libertarian. States cannot take power from the Feds. Libertarian does not mean "every man for himself." Words mean things, reality doesn't work that way. She seems to be stuck on code words and trite phrases, yet they are revealed to be mere literary gossamer as soon as one tries to apply them to reality. Call someone a libertarian facist(sic) while you're at it. It makes as much sense.

The sad reality, as much as the leftern half of the debate would like to ignore it, is that the left does not think as much as the right, but as little as them. You are not a vanguard of rationalism, but a troupe of sanctimonious lemmings, just like those you criticize. You do not analyze as much as the right, but as little, finding emotional comfort in trite mantas that, once exposed to the sunlight of reality and accounting, dissipate like the most preposterous Christian urban legends. You, collectively, are not as smart as them, but as stupid as all mankind. You have your own wells to hell, your own Bible Codes, your own Darwin's Deathbed Confessions, accepted as truth by those who do not know as much as their opponents, but as little. It makes you sleep well at night, which is what it's designed to do. That, and to provide your vote to one faction of a bi-factional party owned by banks. Occupy, baby. Show the 1% that you won't take it lying down. Then lie down like the rest of those who are sure that TARP was necessary to save the country.

  • It's called Google, and it's not hard to use.
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Mike Ford 1 year, 11 months ago

you got free stuff for years genuis....it's called trickle down and supply side economics.....now thank that genuis dimwit reagan and the current gop dimwits and tper's for it....

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weiser 1 year, 11 months ago

I just want free stuff...vote Obama! Let the chips fall where they may, as long as I get mine.

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booyalab 1 year, 11 months ago

"Our government and Legislature are trying to drive our country into a Libertarian society"

After this line, I just started reading for the entertainment value.

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thebigspoon 1 year, 11 months ago

Our federal government does not work! Trillions in debt with no cut in spending. I don't have a any idea why we support this way of government. Oh wait, everybody wants their cut. Politicians are first in chow line and never made a payroll.

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cato_the_elder 1 year, 11 months ago

The letter writer states: "I’ve noticed there are fewer “letters to the editor” recently and wonder if, like me, people find it difficult to decide which atrocity to address."

Perhaps the letter writer might want to reconsider the use of the word "atrocity." There have been atrocities in both the distant and not-so-distant past (the Spanish Inquisition, the Holocaust), and atrocities are occurring today in Sudan and Somalia, among other places. Proposed legislation that encourages individual responsibility rather than reliance on government largesse is no more an "atrocity" than all of the legislation over the last 50+ years that has addicted far too many people to government largesse.

Moreover, keeping present income tax rates where they are is certainly not a "redistribution of wealth," and cannot possibly be described as an "atrocity." Previous legislation providing for graduated or "progressive" rates of income taxation is quite clearly a redistribution of wealth, but I know no educated person who would describe such legislation as an "atrocity."

Lastly, the letter writer appears to believe that a liberal arts education is no longer available in America. That belief is patently absurd.

I suggest that the letter writer change his or her name to Chicken Little.

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BornAgainAmerican 1 year, 11 months ago

The Dims are doing their absolute best to divide this country. OWS, War on Women, War on the Wealthy, class envy, War on Christianity, War of the Races, etc, etc... They want to talk about anything but this administration's incompetency and abysmal record. When will national discussion turn to real issues and this President's poor record of accomplishment?

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tange 1 year, 11 months ago

"I’ve noticed there are fewer “letters to the editor” recently and wonder if, like me, people find it difficult to decide which atrocity to address."

It's the comments section; idio killed the edio star.

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Brock Masters 1 year, 11 months ago

Two simple points.

1 no where in the Libertarian philosophy or principles will you find the notion of every man for themselves. Libertarians believe in liberty which means small government but that doesn't mean no government.

2 legislatures, if they are taking power from the federal government are only taking powers that that federal government has no legal authority to exercise.

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FalseHopeNoChange 1 year, 11 months ago

*The liberal arts education, which our colleges used to provide, encourages and teaches students to THINK, an activity dangerous to those who like the security of dogma.*

OWS is complex Liberal "THINK" at it's best.

Complex intellectual Liberals are soooo emotionally distressed.

They 'need' other people's money to survive.

Koch 'created' hundreds of thousands of high paying jobs. But, one has to 'work' for that money. If "The First Gay President" would leave them alone, Koch's could create more jobs for the 50% of Liberal Arts Graduates that are unemployed living with mom.

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Roland Gunslinger 1 year, 11 months ago

Are you saying the police would not protect non-wealthy owners' properties?

What does ALEC have to do with Libertarians? If you notice a lot of the anti-abortion bills are modeled after ALEC legislation.... most Libertarians are pro-choice.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 11 months ago

Another Koch-funded stealth campaign Thursday, May 17, 2012 | Posted by Jim Hightower

Millions of children in our public schools will soon be hearing from the Heartland Institute. It might sound like a nice above board civic group promoting such salt-of-the-earth virtues as integrity and veracity, but quite the opposite.

Heartland's mission is to promote mass ignorance on behalf of its self-serving (and often heartless) corporate backers. It is yet another secretive far-right-wing front group funded by the Koch brothers' club of billionaires who're intent on establishing an unbridled corporate plutocracy in our country.

But this outfit was recently outed by someone who released a trove of its internal documents – including details of its multimillion-dollar stealth campaign to undermine the teaching of climate change science in America's schools. Heartland is creating an anti-science curriculum to pooh-pooh the facts of global weather change and planning to turn the issue into a major culture war in local school districts across the country.

Falsely claiming that "Principals and teachers are heavily biased toward the alarmist perspective" and that climate change "is a major scientific controversy" the Institute and its right-wing allies are already pressuring school boards to adopt its denial curriculum, forcing teachers to water down the science.

The dishonesty of Heartland's campaign includes its shielding of the special interests behind it. When the campaign comes to your area, it won't tell local people that the Koch brothers – who own America's largest private oil corporation and are vituperative opponents of regulations to restrict their emissions of global warming pollutants – are putting up $200,000 for the effort this year.

To get to the dark heart of this insidious campaign, and to stand for science and truth in teaching, go to the National Center for Science Education at www.ncse.com.

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"In Documents, a Plan to Discredit Climate Teaching," www.nytimes.com, February 16, 2012.

http://www.jimhightower.com/node/7741

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 11 months ago

Publicopoly Exposed

How ALEC, the Koch brothers and their corporate allies plan to privatize government.

ALEC is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization that in recent years has reported about $6.5 million in annual revenue. ALEC’s members include corporations, trade associations, think tanks and nearly a third (about 2,000) of the nation’s state legislators (virtually all Republican). According to the group’s promotional material, ALEC’s mission is to “advance the Jeffersonian principles of free markets, limited government, federalism, and individual liberty, through a nonpartisan public-private partnership of America’s state legislators, members of the private sector, the federal government, and general public.”

ALEC currently claims more than 250 corporations and special interest groups as private sector members. While the organization refuses to make a complete list of these private members available to the public, some known members include:

  • Wal-Mart
  • Exxon Mobil
  • the Corrections Corporation of America
  • AT&T
  • Pfizer Pharmaceuticals
  • Time Warner Cable
  • Comcast
  • Verizon
  • Phillip Morris International
  • Koch Industries
  • along with a host of right-wing think tanks and foundations.

ALEC is composed of nine task forces–(1) Public Safety and Elections, (2) Civil Justice, (3) Education, (4) Energy, Environment and Agriculture, (5) Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development, (6) Telecommunications and Information Technology, (7) Health and Human Services, (8) Tax and Fiscal Policy and (9) International Relations–each comprised of “Public Sector” members (legislators) and “Private Sector” members (corporations and interest groups).

Each of these task forces, which serve as the core of ALEC’s operations, generate model legislation that is then passed on to member lawmakers for introduction in their home assemblies. According to ALEC promotional material, each year member lawmakers introduce an average of 1,000 of these pieces of legislation nationwide, 17 percent of which are enacted. For 2009, ALEC claimed a total of 826 pieces of introduced legislation nationwide, 115 of which were passed into law–slightly below the average at 14 percent. ALEC does not offer its model legislation for public inspection.

ALEC refused to comment on any aspect of the material covered here.

More and more: http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/11603/publicopoly_exposed/

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/15/alec_exposed_state_legislative_bills_drafted

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/8/5/new_expos_tracks_alec_private_prison

http://www.justice.org/cps/rde//justice/hs.xsl/15044.htm

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pace 1 year, 11 months ago

Good letter, thank you for taking the time. Nice clear language.

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