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KU seeks tougher admissions criteria

May 16, 2012

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TOPEKA — Kansas University leaders have asked for a new set of stricter admissions criteria that would separate it from Kansas’ other state universities.

KU Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little outlined the proposal Wednesday for the Kansas Board of Regents.

The existing criteria are the same for all six regents universities, and a Kansas high school student can get admitted if he or she:

• has an ACT score of 21 or higher or an SAT score of 980 or higher, or

• ranks in the top one-third of the high school class, or

• has a 2.0 GPA or higher on a 4.0 scale in the Kansas Qualified Admissions curriculum.

To be automatically admitted to KU under the new standards, students would have to apply by Feb. 1 and would have to complete the regents’ pre-college curriculum with a GPA of 2.5 or higher, along with one of the following:

• Graduation from a high school with a minimum of a 3.0 cumulative high school GPA and a composite ACT score of 24 (1090 SAT equivalent), or

• Graduation from a high school (accredited, nonaccredited or home school) with a minimum of a 3.25 cumulative high school GPA and a composite ACT score of 21 (980 SAT equivalent).

Students who did not meet the automatic qualifications could also gain admission by way of a review committee that would look at a number of other mitigating factors.

Gray-Little said that students who apply by Feb. 1 have more success historically at KU. She told the regents that, in the last two years, 81 percent of students who applied by Feb. 1 came back for a second year, compared with 58 percent of students who applied after that date.

Gray-Little said that 65 percent of the current students at KU would have been accepted through the new automatic admissions process, and the rest would have had to go to the review committee. With the review committee, Gray-Little said she hoped the process would connect students with services they might not find otherwise.

Regents did not take action on the proposal on Wednesday but seemed generally supportive.

“You’re not doing this to keep students out of Kansas University — you’re doing this to keep students in Kansas University,” Regent Dan Lykins said.

Still, Regent Kenny Wilk asked whether the stricter standards might mean that fewer students would enroll at KU, especially considering the school’s declining enrollments over the past few years.

“That’s a possibility,” Gray-Little said. “But at the same time, we’re also trying to increase our applications. ... It is not our goal to decrease the size of the university.”

The board is scheduled to vote on the new standards at its next meeting in June. If approved, the new standards wouldn’t take effect until 2016.

Comments

anticommunist 1 year, 11 months ago

Hey Bernie, the only way increasing admissions reqs will work is if the faculty and whoever else is administering courses actually does a good enough job so as to justify this increase. As of now, KU teaching is 1/5 excellent faculty, 2/5 absolutely terrible faculty and 3/5 horrific and pathetic graduate students (with some notable and very rare exceptions).

What is essential is weeding out the bad eggs on the teaching end. Only then will your raising the admissions bar be worth ANYTHING.

Oh yeah, and get over yourself, B G-L. I guess that's the most important thing.

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BABBOY 1 year, 11 months ago

This is silly. KU is not Texas. Never will be cause well it is in Kansas.

Fine with me. More football players will go to KSU and get a better education for going there....

Also, like the other posters above said, sometimes giving a kid a chance is worth it….

Too bad snobby KU fans cannot see that one.

They will when they lose basketball recruits over this....

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love2fish_ks 1 year, 11 months ago

KU's first obligation is to the residents of Kansas. Their second obligation is to those outside the state of Kansas. KU has is a semi-governmental agency enjoying the benefits of taxpayer dollars, student grants, and student loans. As money has increased the cost has more than met the increase, 400% increase in the past 20 years.

It is a disgrace

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Cant_have_it_both_ways 1 year, 11 months ago

All this is good, but you know that it is all just fluff. They will continue to put welfare people into re training programs and you know they will not put a 50 year old back into high school. This looks like it will not effect the rich or the poor. It is the middle class who won't have the ability to pay or the access to the Universities. They need to just quit jacking with everything and let the market settle out. The government does a very poor job picking the winners and losers.

I am with MD. My family has been in Kansas since at least 1850. If they collected taxes then for higher education, then we have put into the system since the beginning. Now they want to tell life long residents that they have to pay, but can't play?

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md 1 year, 11 months ago

If you pay school tax they should not be able to deny you.

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Jeteras 1 year, 11 months ago

yea this is crazy,, I am a KU alumni and back when I was admitted it was a 18 on ACT and min 2.0 GPA and is what I had.. I was not a good "High School" student and I made consistent 3.5 GPA all through Engineering school.. They should not judge a high school student they should let them prove themselves. I know there needs to be a standard but this is just nuts. When you are paying for it, sure sheds a new light on how much you "Work" to make grades..

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deec 1 year, 11 months ago

So a third of the incoming class wouldn't meet the new standards, but the new standards aren't going to decrease enrollment? Right.

I have a swell bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you...

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concernedeudoravoter 1 year, 11 months ago

Oh lord, we wouldn't want the end of the football and basketball programs - after all that's the only reason people choose to get an education from KU. Seriously.....if this is what you think then KU is doomed already.

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KansasLiberal 1 year, 11 months ago

Say goodbye to the KU football and men's basketball programs if these changes are passed.

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rockchalk77 1 year, 11 months ago

If the quality of the undergraduate students go up, the school ranking will go up, which will attract a higher quality of student in the first place. High rankings also make it easier to get grants and research funding from third parties.

This is a long overdue change that has been needed for some time.

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Vinny1 1 year, 11 months ago

Also, why does the LJWorld always refer to KU as "Kansas University" when KU has specifically said it should never be that, and should only be the University of Kansas?

Purposely doing it? Bad journalism? Politics? Stupidity?

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Vinny1 1 year, 11 months ago

Its about time. These standards are still not hard to achieve. You should have to do something more than just graduate high school to be able to get into college.

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squawkhawk 1 year, 11 months ago

"It is not our goal to decrease the size of the university". Yet that is what is going to happen. Enrollment is already declining and making standards tougher will only hasten that decline, in spite of the efforts to increase applications which have already proven to be fruitless.

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