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Legislative leaders to Brownback: Veto the tax cut

May 11, 2012

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— Republican and Democratic leaders on Friday called on Gov. Sam Brownback to veto a deficit-producing tax cut as the legislative session hit overtime with numerous major issues unresolved.

"That would be the appropriate action," Senate President Steve Morris, R-Hugoton, said of a veto.

Senate Democratic Leader Anthony Hensley of Topeka and House Democratic Leader Paul Davis of Lawrence said the proposed tax cut was reckless and would require deep reductions to schools, assistance for those with disabilities and highway funding.They also said it would benefit the wealthy at the expense of the poor.

Gov. Sam Brownback on Friday discusses tax policy during a news conference in the Statehouse.

Gov. Sam Brownback on Friday discusses tax policy during a news conference in the Statehouse.

Fiscal profiles of the tax cut by the Kansas Legislative Research Department projected budget shortfalls ranging from $242 million to $304 million by the time the Legislature meets next year, and $2.5 billion to $3 billion in 2018, which is an amount equal to nearly one-half the current budget of $6.2 billion in state funds.

But Brownback, a Republican, disagreed with the assessment.

"We can make this work," Brownback said. "This is a pro-growth tax cut," he said. Through economic growth and tight control of spending, the proposal would balance, he said.

Brownback said he would prefer a smaller tax cut that was produced by a House-Senate conference committee, but said if he doesn't get that bill, he will sign the larger one. The measures would lower income tax rates and eliminate taxes on non-wage income for nearly 200,000 businesses.

The political maneuvering employed by Brownback to get that larger tax cut on his desk, and the fighting between conservatives and moderates in the Republican Party over legislative redistricting continued to cause bad feelings in the Capitol.

"There is a war," said Morris. He said the Kansas Chamber of Commerce and others are trying to oust moderate Republicans like himself. "The conservative wing of our party would like to have a grand slam. Everyone would be lock-step," he said.

Morris declined to say if he thought Brownback, a conservative, was directly involved. "I have my thoughts. I'd rather not comment," he said. Later, Morris said that he "certainly under-estimated what the governor was willing to do."

Brownback said, "I'm not at war with anybody." Brownback declined to say if he was happy with Senate leaders, but later in his news conference he praised the House and said the Senate had not accomplished much.

Brownback was asked if he had made assurances to Senate leaders that if they voted for the larger tax cut to continue the process of negotiations, the bill would not be approved by the House and sent to him. Brownback denied he made that assurance.

The charges and counter-chargers were leveled as the Legislature completed the 90-day session and agreed to resume work Monday.

On Friday, with major issues still up in the air, state legislators approved measures taking aim at Islamic Sharia law and United Nations Agenda 21.

The Senate approved a bill the bans Kansas courts and administrative agencies from basing rulings on foreign laws or legal systems.

The measure doesn't mention Sharia law, but several senators said that was what they were concerned about.

"They stone women to death in countries that have Sharia law," said state Sen. Susan Wagle, R-Wichita. "If you vote to not adopt (the bill), it's a vote against women," she said.

But state Sen. Tim Owens, R-Overland Park, said the bill was unnecessary because courts already are ruled by United State laws and the U.S. Constitution. He said the bill was based on intolerance and fear and would make people think only those with a Christian, religious-right perspective were welcome in Kansas.

The measure easily passed, 33-3, after winning approval in the House, 120-0. State Sen. Marci Francisco, D-Lawrence, was one of the three who voted against the measure.

Earlier Friday, the House gave final approval on a 76-41 vote to a resolution that says the state House recognizes "the destructive and insidious nature of United Nations Agenda 21."

The measure criticizes U.N. Agenda 21 as a covert plot to destroy the

American way of life through extreme environmentalism, social engineering and global political control.

Critics of the resolution described it as a right-wing conspiracy theory.

Asked if working on anti-Sharia legislation and the U.N. resolution was an appropriate expense of time when major issues weren't resolved, Brownback said the Legislature has spent much more time on taxes and the budget.

Comments

pace 1 year, 11 months ago

I don't see how the Governor will ever support the schools as long as he has a Koch habit.

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bobberboy 1 year, 11 months ago

The concensus is overwhelmenly against Brownback and his budget slashing agenda ! We need a recall !

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JackMcKee 1 year, 11 months ago

Sammy B won't even be living in Kansas in 4 years. What does he care about the future of the state?

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Kate Rogge 1 year, 11 months ago

Front seats for Bloody Kansas once more.

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Patricia Davis 1 year, 11 months ago

Sounds like a teenager saw early that gov blowsalot was a hot mess.

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kansanjayhawk 1 year, 11 months ago

He is noting acting like a "toady" at all just trying to get us back on a good fiscal foundation.

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pace 1 year, 11 months ago

I don't remember Gov. Brownback promising to act like an insane despot toady to the Koch bros. when he ran for office. Of course it was implied.

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bobberboy 1 year, 11 months ago

It'll benefit the Koch Brothers. Did you know they worship a large stone owl in Bohemian Grove California ?

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wastewatcher 1 year, 11 months ago

Apparently Senator Morris and his LIBERAL COHORTS have forgotten that this is the exact bill that they passed first and passed by a large margin. If they do not like it, then why did they pass it? This situation displays exactly what is wrong this year. The Liberal coalition can only whine and blame themselves for where they find themselves. Game playing and trickery caught up with the LIBERAL SENATE LEADERS.

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kugrad 1 year, 11 months ago

The real issue here is incompetence on the part of the Governor and his staff. They have nothing but blind faith that a tax cut strategy will promote growth (it hasn't worked here before and the counties with the highest taxes have the highest business growth, per the Eggs and Issues breakfast here in Lawrence w/ legislative leaders). The non-partisan agency that reviews these things for the state indicates it will cause a huge budgetary crisis. Brownback has no support to back his ideas, just his gut feeling and opinion. That is incompetence. In some much-reported backroom arm-twisting he gets the house to pass an even bigger tax cut than he asked for, thinking it will be whittled back down to what he wanted. When that bigger cut passes, instead of saying he'll veto it, he says he'll sign it, although NO ONE ON HIS STAFF HAS EVER STUDIED THE IMPACT OF THIS PROPOSAL. These are numbers he just pulled out of his, er..thin air. Not numbers based on professionals providing valid estimates. THIS IS INCOMPETENCE. He says we'll get increased tax revenue from businesses when they make more money from not paying taxes. How will that work? He has basically eliminated their taxes! To make it worse, he is going to eliminate many of their customers as well by putting half the state workforce on the unemployment line when the state can't afford to pay them. I vote on both sides of the aisle. Kansas has always been a populist meritocracy, until now. This is absurd. I've never, ever seen such incompetence in the office of the governor. Not here, nor in any other state.

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yourworstnightmare 1 year, 11 months ago

Yes, maybe we should all pay back the government subsidies we have received through our lifetimes, such as state tuition subsidies for attending the University of Kansas.

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JackMcKee 1 year, 11 months ago

I've learned a lot about "true" Republicans over the last year. They like to pass lots of new laws restricting freedoms, they are anti-science, they like to spend more than they make, and they are generally irresponsible to the point of calling it insanity.

Good luck with that platform.

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FalseHopeNoChange 1 year, 11 months ago

Bob_Keeshan (anonymous) replies… The only people demanding your money are the Governor and the Kansas House.

Yes, Bob. I know. They are "Fundamental Complex Liberals" with an R by their names. They "think" they know what to do with yours and my money to make us "feel" better.

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Kate Rogge 1 year, 11 months ago

"They stone women to death in countries that have Sharia law," said state Sen. Susan Wagle, R-Wichita. "If you vote to not adopt (the bill), it's a vote against women," she said. OMG what a stupid, stupid, person.

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observant 1 year, 11 months ago

brownie is trying to beat out Scott Walker and cement his place in history as worst governor ever for any state in the US.

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rockchalk1977 1 year, 11 months ago

It's fascinating how liberals and Democrats are so concerned about debt and deficits at the state level only. Are any of you equally outraged by $5+ trillion in Obama debt? This mythical $2.7 billion budget shortfall hasn't even happened yet and probably never will. If Kansas cut spending 10% across the board would anyone even notice. Probably not. Thank you for my tax cut guys. Anyone opposed feel free to write a check!

http://usdebtclock.org/

Your share is $50K.

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yourworstnightmare 1 year, 11 months ago

I BB signs it, this would be an ultimate slap in the face to moderate Kansas republicans.

Time for moderate republicans to start fighting back, not for their party but for the State of Kansas.

Moderate republicans must join forces with democrats to stop this right wing onslaught. An onslaught which is gunning for them, by the way.

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observant 1 year, 11 months ago

If brownie signs it. it's proof he thinks Kansans are total idiots, at least those who voted for him.

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rockchalk1977 1 year, 11 months ago

Sign it Gov. Brownback. Any bill that makes Paul Davis crazy must be good for Kansas.

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sourpuss 1 year, 11 months ago

Frankly, I do not understand why people are complaining about the ultra-conservative nature of the state government. We had an election, this is what the people decided. That is democracy. Anyone with even a shred of political awareness could have foreseen this and voted accordingly, so I can only assume that this is what the people of Kansas want. The majority rules in democracy, even if the majority is self-destructive. If you don't like this sort of think, I recommend you move out of Kansas because you are not going to change the hearts and minds of most people in this state. They want no taxes, they want "no government in their lives." Sure, it may see a boiled frog, but you can't fight the majority, certainly not with common sense.

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Randall Uhrich 1 year, 11 months ago

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid the Republicans are in this state. The only bright thing is that they will soon provoke a public backlash that wil lead to a restoration of sanity. God help us!

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autie 1 year, 11 months ago

Oui JackMcKee, it was Marie that said let them eat cake.

Subsequently a few of the people that messed everything up sort of lost their heads.

The fall elections will see an uprising of the middle and the conservatives will see their heads rolling. Just a gut feeling...the brownbackites are going to be backlashed.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 11 months ago

Big debt in a year or two sponsored by Brownback.

Wonder where he got this idea?

. In the end big debt were the results which does not seem to bother Republicans, as long as they are in power.

In fact, by the time the second Bush left office, the national debt had grown to $12.1 trillion:

  • ENTITLEMENT - Over half of that amount had been created by Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy.

  • ENTITLEMENT - Another 30% of the national debt had been created by the tax cuts for the wealthy under Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush.

• ENTITLEMENT - Fully 81% of the national debt was created by just these three Republican Presidents. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2010/0111orr.html

  1. ENTITLEMENT - Starting in 2003, George W. Bush destroyed the world economy by encouraging U.S. banks to make loans to those who could not afford them, through schemes such as the "American Dream Downpayment Initiative".

Once Bush's policies led to their inevitable result of economic collapse, the United States found itself in a situation where it had to take on debt in order to restore the economy.

http://www.reaganbushdebt.org/CalculationDetails.aspx

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lunacydetector 1 year, 11 months ago

As a former democrat, it is easy to surmise why I changed parties. The democrats/moderate republicans (republicans in name only) are out of touch with reality.

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JackMcKee 1 year, 11 months ago

It would be nice if we could find a way to hold these idiots responsible for this goat rodeo. What was it the French used to say? Let them eat cake? That's about where we are with this crop.

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Lecomptoncityslicker 1 year, 11 months ago

State government has been the biggest growth industry in the state for the last several years. The tax cuts will force better utilization of resurces and more efficient government. I am tired of government taking my money and spending (wasting) it on programs with very little benefit or return. It is time for government to live within it's means. A reduction in funding is the only way to reign in the waste that permeates the business of government.

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dozer 1 year, 11 months ago

Guess I should have stoned my wife to death on Thursday before they passed this bill. Wait, I think there is still time...I think it doesn't officially become a law until it is printed, which is July 1st.

Perhaps we should stone people in the streets and cut off the hands of theives to show there was a need for this law. That would then show this was not a solution looking for a problem.

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cobaltblue 1 year, 11 months ago

We have come to the edge of the abyss and are about to take a big step forward.

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jafs 1 year, 11 months ago

If the Senate passed a bill they didn't support, based on "assurances" from Brownback or without them, they made a huge mistake.

I hope and trust they won't make that mistake again.

No legislative body should pass a law that they don't support, if there's a clear possibility it will become law.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 11 months ago

"We can make this work," Brownback said. "This is a pro-growth tax cut," he said. Through economic growth and tight control of spending, the proposal would balance, he said.

"There is a war," said Morris. He said the Kansas Chamber of Commerce and others are trying to oust moderate Republicans like himself. "The conservative wing of our party would like to have a grand slam. Everyone would be lock-step," he said."

In the first place Brownback has no idea what he is talking about. He is the top dog puppet for names like Koch and Walton family(Wal-Mart) money. This is a first step in the Koch-Walton endeavor to take over government services and deposit OUR TAX DOLLARS in their bank accounts. This is Reaganomics better known as Wreckanomics with tax increases.

And yes republicans are not any more welcome than democrats to this sleazy Koch/Walton partnership.

Recall the Brownback and his gestapo! Bring back Tom Holland!

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FalseHopeNoChange 1 year, 11 months ago

Fundamental Liberal People that "demand" my money "suck".

People that "make up" reasons to "take it", "suck"....'it's for the children'.... It's to protect you.... It's to feed the hungry.....ha ha ha ha....it's to help the sick.....

What they are saying is: You would "die" without me to take care of you with "your" money. lol

I wonder how they got so "smart"?

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oldexbeat 1 year, 11 months ago

Nothing more foreign than those old Hebrew laws. Glad we're not going to use them -- you know stoning women, killing children, killing all the animals, salting the earth, etc. and the 13 commandments. (Look it up.)

The ignorance of Kansas might be a major tourism draw -- I mean if you could watch these clowns all year, it might bring in a lot of money. How large is the visitor area at the Kansas Capitol ? I would pay to see people act this stupid. And they get to vote, too? Wow are we liberal or what....

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Floyd Craig 1 year, 11 months ago

you can see whos got lots of money and likes the breaks for the rich and stupid

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mikekt 1 year, 11 months ago

I am so glad to know that the Kansas House & Senate are in control of the Whole World!? Now we can all sleep well at night!? HA, HA, HA! They showed those Islamic folks & The U.N.!?..... Right!? Now, if the KS Legislature would only get down to the real business of running the real State of Kansas, which last time that i heard, was their real job,..... get over their inflated selves & pandering to the KOCH BROS., we could get real Kansas issues resolved. Well, maybe not!? Not with this bunch! Pandering to the rich on Gov. Time is not acceptable. You are being paid to do a real job, aren't you!? Maybe the KS Legislature could take a symbolic vote on wether or not to "Nuke The Whole World ( but us ) "and get it out of their systems! HA, HA, HA!

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pace 1 year, 11 months ago

It bothers me cutting schools, elderly, ill, all in the hope that the rich will use the money to create jobs. If this was legitimate, it would be a carrot, create jobs and get a tax cut. Not money down a wishing well. NO business in their right mind would offer a rebate without purchase. This is an insane and cruel and destructive bill. It will raise taxes on working families, who have less money coming in, have lost equity and even lost homes. It will cut taxes to the wealthiest who have seen an increase of over 300% in their wealth in the last 10 years. It will cause suffering and cost Kansas educated workers.

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kansanjayhawk 1 year, 11 months ago

Brownback is doing an outstanding job leading Kansas! Thank you Governor.

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riverdrifter 1 year, 11 months ago

Hayseed clown posse at work. Ah, well. It is what it is.

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WilburM 1 year, 11 months ago

This beyond extremism. It's a combo of being whacked out (the UN measure), unhitched to reality (sharia law), and utterly irresponsible (tax cuts). And wait, we haven't even gotten to redistricting. Worst KS House ever.

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Eride 1 year, 11 months ago

This is all too pathetic and plain frightening for me to have anything to say.

Extremism run amok in the state legislature...

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johnnyreb 1 year, 11 months ago

The party is over for the liberal Republicans in the Senate. They know it and aren't happy about it.

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Joe Hyde 1 year, 11 months ago

Ahhh...the Kansas legislature. A body of elected lawmakers where, for the time being at least, ignorance passes as virtue.

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distant_voice 1 year, 11 months ago

I previously had to thank the right wing of the Republican party for forcing me to leave the party and become an independent. Now I get to thank them again for making me vote Democrat in 2012. When is the GOP going to learn that the only thing trickle-down economics does is put bonus money in the pockets of senior executives who send Kansas jobs out-of-state and overseas while driving our State under a mountain of debt.

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