Archive for Tuesday, May 1, 2012

Statehouse Live: Former legislators, all Republicans, criticize Brownback-endorsed tax cuts

May 1, 2012


— A group of nearly 50 former legislators, all Republicans, criticized a proposed tax cut endorsed by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.

Traditional Republicans for Common Sense said the tax bill, if enacted, would put the state in a budget hole that would result in cuts to essential services, such as schools, roads, and nursing home care. The group said it would also lead to increases in local property taxes.

“I think Kansas taxpayers need to be asking where the governor would make these cuts,” said Rochelle Chronister, former assistant majority leader in the House, and former chair of the Kansas Republican Party.

“More importantly, we need to be asking what cuts of this magnitude might look like for working families, retirees and Kansas children," Chronister, of Neodesha, said.

Under a tax-cut proposal in a House-Senate conference committee, the three state income tax rates of 3.5 percent, 6.25 percent and 6.45 percent would be collapsed into two rates of 3 percent and 4.9 percent. The plan would also phase out the non-wage income tax on nearly 200,000 businesses.

The proposal would lead to state deficits within three years, according to state projections.

Brownback has said the tax cuts will boost the state economy and create jobs.

Chronister said Kansas already has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country. "Now is not the time for more government intervention. Topeka needs to stay out of the way and make sure proven economic development tools – like good schools and safe roads – remain strong so that the private sector can thrive," she said.


Paul R Getto 5 years, 12 months ago

Republicans and common sense? That's a new one, at least in the current regime. Keep up the pressure. He's not really listening, but the Gov's starting to back off, at least a bit.

JackMcKee 5 years, 12 months ago

How does Brownback keep getting elected? The guy is a clown.

Brent Fry 5 years, 12 months ago

This plan would bankrupt the state by 2018, maybe sooner. Sam Brownback is the most polished turd in a KS govt full of them. If this goes through, this state will have huge problems. This plan will also put an end to hundreds of social service agencies throughout the state.

Paul R Getto 5 years, 12 months ago

"This plan would bankrupt the state by 2018" === That is, of course, the plan. Ignore what they say and watch what they do. Once we get under water far enough, they can cut all that "gummint" they hate and sell what's left to their buddies. The poor picked the wrong parents and will get their rewards in heaven.

chootspa 5 years, 11 months ago

This. They'll use it to sell off government land and gut KPERS.

Jeff Plinsky 5 years, 11 months ago

Only if the Dems have a viable candidate. Sadly, Tom Holland is not that candidate.

bevy 5 years, 11 months ago

Good to see the Common Sense Republicans coming back to the fore, and not being afraid to stand up for what is right. This confirms my belief that contrary to what many posters on this forum appear to believe, most Kansans are neither raving right-wingers nor idiots. There are far more of us in the middle than at either extreme. It's time for all moderates, both Democrats and Republicans, to find and use our voices again.

Paul R Getto 5 years, 11 months ago

+1 The 70-80% in the middle are getting played by the hysterics on both ends, left and right.

Patricia Davis 5 years, 11 months ago

And it's time we activate the middle and put an end to this mess.

Paul R Getto 5 years, 11 months ago

+1, but it would take a 3rd party, which is nearly impossible. Or, the R's and D's could stand up on their hind legs and kick out their respective crazies.

JayCat_67 5 years, 11 months ago

True, but the "crazies" are entertaining. Ranting right and left wing zealots = big ratings and big $$$ for the media moguls.

Paul R Getto 5 years, 11 months ago

True that. In the new business model, it's all about click count.

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 11 months ago

It is about time that true conservative republicans weigh in. Brownback and his compatriots in the legislature are really taking things too far, measures that will permanently damage the state.

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 11 months ago

Here they are, Traditional Republicans for Common Sense

U.S. Sen. Sheila Frahm, Colby, Kan. U.S. Rep. Jan Meyers, Overland Park, Kan. Lt. Gov. Gary Sherrer, Overland Park, Kan. Sen. Barbara Allen, Prairie Village, Kan. Sen. Dick Bond, Overland Park, Kan. Sen. David Corbin, Towanda, Kan. Sen. Jane Eldredge, Lawrence, Kan. Sen. Tim Emert, Independence, Kan. Sen. Fred Kerr, Pratt, Kan. Sen. Audrey Langworthy, Prairie Village, Kan. Sen. Lana Oleen, Manhattan, Kan. Sen. Alicia Salisbury, Topeka, Kan. Sen. Carolyn Tillotson, Leavenworth, Kan. Sen. Wint Winter, Jr., Ottawa, Kan. Rep. Denise Apt, Iola, Kan. Rep. Jayne Aylward, Salina, Kan. Rep. Ginger Barr, Auburn, Kan. Rep. Jim Braden, Clay Center, Kan. Rep. Nancy Brown, Stanley, Kan. Rep Rochelle Chronister, Neodesha, Kan. Rep. Steve Cloud, Lenexa, Kan. Rep. Ray Cox, Bonner Springs, Kan. Rep. Sandy Duncan, Wichita, Kan. Rep. Cindy Empson, Independence, Kan. Rep. Ron Fox, Prairie Village, Kan. Rep. Bob Frey, Kansas City, Kan. Rep. Fred Gatlin, Atwood, Kan. Rep. John Golden, Goodland, Kan. Rep. Rex Hoy, Fairway, Kan. Rep. David Huff, Lenexa, Kan. Rep Dan Johnson, Hays, Kan. Rep. Phil (Big Phil) Kline, Overland Park, Kan. Rep. Wendell Lady, Overland Park, Kan. Rep. Fred Lorentz, Fredonia, Kan. Rep. Jim Lowther, Emporia, Kan. Rep. Bill Light, Rolla, Kan. Rep. R. D. Miller, Russell, Kan. Rep. R. H Miller, Wellington, Kan. Rep. Cindy Neighbor, Shawnee, Kan. Rep. Gerry Ray, Overland Park, Kan. Rep. Susan Roenbaugh, Lewis, Kan. Rep. Ed Rolfs, Junction City, Kan. Rep. Ellen Samuelson, Newton, Kan. Rep. Lloyd Stone, Emporia, Kan. Rep Jim Yonally, Overland Park, Kan. Rep. Lisa Benlon, overland Park, Kan.

wastewatcher 5 years, 11 months ago

I wonder how many of the above voted for the huge Grave's tax cut in years gone by. I beleive most of them did. When you analyze the facts, it becomes easy to see the hyprocisy of the above group. It ok for one the liberal-moderate Governors like Graves to cut taxes but not a conservative. I would like someone to explain this.

tomatogrower 5 years, 11 months ago

So Graves already gave us a bunch of tax cuts, and it apparently didn't bring the economic boom that Brownback says his tax cuts will bring. Maybe these guys just want to quit hitting this dead horse.

Jeff Plinsky 5 years, 11 months ago

Different eras, different contexts. When the state was bringing in enough money to cover basic services, tax cuts made sense. But only if the statehouse is willing to raise taxes when needed to maintain services. The real problem with both both political extremes is that they refuse to believe when situations change, that solutions to problems also change.

When a patient suffers from heart problems, blood thinners can be a life-saving solution. But when that same patient starts bleeding to death, blood thinners will not help. Similarly, when there is low unemployment, cutting taxes and government services, and laying off government workers can stimulate the economy. When there is high unemployment, cutting services and laying off workers just further stagnates the economy. This is where government spending on infrastructure and education puts people back to work in the short term, and builds a foundation for more long term growth.

chootspa 5 years, 11 months ago

I can't find reference to that poll anywhere, including the POS website, which was, shall we say, a little biased in their blog opinons.

chootspa 5 years, 11 months ago

Brownback's excuse for favoring one set of results over the other was certainly consistent with his POS governing policy.

That aside, I really want to look at the crosstabs. The news seems to finally be breaking, and it appears this was a commissioned poll from a Republican pollster and paid for by David Kensinger's group - already suspect. It was done in direct response to the downward trending SUSA results, and when there's no info out there about the methodology or the exact wording of the questions asked, I call shenanigans.

BigDog 5 years, 11 months ago

Let me see ...... Congressional disapproval at all time highs over the last 4-6 years .... and it has had minimal impact on elections. Most incumbents continue to get voted back in whether they are Republican or Democrat.

I doubt I would use a poll 2+ year before the election to determine the future.

I find it interesting that when people projected budget problems in the future with the tax cuts of Graves adminstration .... these same former state legislators ignored that information and voted them through.

JayhawkFan1985 5 years, 11 months ago

The GOP was THE progressive party in this state for a long time beginning with Lincoln and the Free Soil movement. Republicans in Kansas were moderates, including Eisenhower. Graves introduced fiscal insanity but cutting taxes under the FALSE assumption that the economy would expand. The Laffer curve has been disproven but many in the GOP cling to it as if it were gospel. Now Brownback seeks to turn Kansas into a third world nation by gutting government and imposing his Taliban style cultural revolution on the rest of us. INSANITY...

Paul Wilson 5 years, 11 months ago are a hack. This is a recycled article from last week with a few tweaks. Absolutely no new information. If there was ever proof that you are a biased hack...this is it. Why recycle if you don't have an agenda?
Very Unprofessional!!!

Richard Heckler 5 years, 11 months ago

When will Kansas and America realize the old GOP is dead? Taken over by NOT republicans who I have declared anti American facists some of which carry bibles among their tools of deceit.

Yep Bush republicans and fundamentalist republicans aka NOT republicans sought lots of corporate funding and probably some back door church money to over throw the GOP. Oh my was Jerry Falwell boastful of this accomplishment..... you bet he was.

When the old GOP stand up against this new whatever the new whatever simply bring on the big special interest big bucks and remove these true GOP thinkers. Yes get them out of the way. Hell it worked in Washington D.C. which is how Brownback and the current entire Kansas NOT repub delegation stay in office. They are masters of deceit during campaigns as come off sounding like the GOP. Once elected it's back to anti American facism.

Obviously too many voters are not paying attention to how the elected officials vote. Turn over everything to large corporations the most dependable source of fraud on the planet.

The USA simply cannot afford this new bogus GOP simple as that.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 11 months ago

BTW Brownback will never back down on his agenda let's not get fooled again by his rhetoric.

He lives by this Koch Family - Walton Family money and agenda. Shopping Wal-Mart is doing what for America and the nation?

How many reading this want to work for less money which is a big item with the Koch and Walton people? It's been said that shopping Wal-Mart is like shopping Americans out of jobs.

Paul Wilson 5 years, 11 months ago are just another liberal blowhard with yet facts.
Why should he back down on his agenda? Also...what's with the filibustering novels all the time? Why does it take you so long to say absolutely so little? You know what you call someone who bi$&% all the time...about everything?
Thaaats guessed it.

wastewatcher 5 years, 11 months ago

To Centrist Tom Holland was soundly rejected by the voters of Kansas. Thats what is wrong with Tom Holland. His LIBERAL AGENDA was rejected and he needs to temember the facts. One would think he would recognize his rejection and be quiet and lick his wounds.

jafs 5 years, 11 months ago

Yes, we certainly wouldn't want anybody exercising their 1st amendment rights now, would we?

I love the respect that conservatives have and demonstrate for the constitution.

jafs 5 years, 11 months ago

Also, of course, this story is about a group of R, not Tom Holland.

And, if you look at the numbers, only about 1/3 of the eligible voters in KS voted for BB.

About 1/2 of the eligible voters didn't even show up at the polls.

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