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Brownback’s Facebook page swamped with posts critical of his anti-abortion stance

Gov. Sam Brownback's Facebook page has been deluged by comments left by people critical of his stance on abortion. More than 1,000 comments were left Thursday.

Gov. Sam Brownback's Facebook page has been deluged by comments left by people critical of his stance on abortion. More than 1,000 comments were left Thursday.

March 15, 2012

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— Gov. Sam Brownback's Facebook page on Thursday was getting swamped with posts, some of them graphic, critical of his stance on abortion and other reproductive issues.

Brownback's spokeswoman could not be reached for comment.

Brownback signed into law several anti-abortion measures last year. The Legislature is considering several more this year.

Last month, Brownback was criticized by abortion rights supporters when he said women who want health care coverage that includes birth control but work for employers who oppose birth control based on religious reasons should go work elsewhere.

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Brian Hall 2 years, 5 months ago

"Brownback's spokeswoman could not be reached for comment."

Of course not. She's too busy deleting the comments off of Facebook.

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Jon Jambor 2 years, 5 months ago

No. The story is below the IQ of the average middle class person... just working and trying to get by. But I bet you went to COLLEGE!

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GibsonJunkie 2 years, 5 months ago

People are complaining on there that their comments have been deleted, actually. You're making a total fool of yourself on this news story.

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asixbury 2 years, 5 months ago

Are you jealous of people who went to college?

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Liberty275 2 years, 5 months ago

I'm jealous of guys that date college girls.

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Phillbert 2 years, 5 months ago

bhall87 called it:

Kansas Governor Deletes ‘Sarcasm Bombing’ from Facebook Wall http://mashable.com/2012/03/16/kansas-governors-facebook/

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opinion 2 years, 5 months ago

Come on. Really? Is this really what they pay this guy to report on?

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Jon Jambor 2 years, 5 months ago

I think LJW has a policy to keep a running gag going when it comes to State House reporting... his name is Scott Rothschild.

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GibsonJunkie 2 years, 5 months ago

I see you doing such a better job than Mr. Rothschild. Why don't you just go take his job? No? Then shut up.

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ECM 2 years, 5 months ago

+1000 as long as it is anti conversatives

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deec 2 years, 5 months ago

Brownback’s gubernatorial campaign was heavily supported by Kansas-based Koch Industries, the Kansas-based pollution conglomerate that directs right-wing global warming denial. Over his career, Brownback has received about $200,000 from the Koch brothers in campaign contributions. While the Kochs have contributed a tiny fraction of their wealth to protecting the Flint Hills prairie from windmills, that unique ecosystem, just like the state’s farmers, has no defense against the global warming pollution Koch Industries produces. http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/06/10/242741/in-koch-country-kansas-governor-brownback-begs-federal-government-for-climate-disaster-relief/ http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00005244

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Michael LoBurgio 2 years, 5 months ago

ALEC Exposed: The Koch Connection

Hundreds of ALEC’s model bills and resolutions bear traces of Koch DNA: raw ideas that were once at the fringes but that have been carved into “mainstream” policy through the wealth and will of Charles and David Koch. Of all the Kochs’ investments in right-wing organizations, ALEC provides some of the best returns: it gives the Kochs a way to make their brand of free-market fundamentalism legally binding.

http://www.thenation.com/article/161973/koch-connection

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Gedanken 2 years, 5 months ago

Real news would have the headline of, "Conservative governor reconsiders stance on abortion after reading facebook post". That is a good starting point for an Onion article.

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ridikkulus 2 years, 5 months ago

He does give a damn! He even used to own one!

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audvisartist 2 years, 5 months ago

I'm surprised his people haven't deleted the comments or banned commenting all together.

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Jon Jambor 2 years, 5 months ago

OK. So , they are retarded? That's your argument? Sleep on it for a month and see if you can up with something intelligible... ok?

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Liberty275 2 years, 5 months ago

I have to say, I'm proud of our editors for not deleting those posts.

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Jon Jambor 2 years, 5 months ago

Why would he do that? Only Liberals have an aversion to opposing opinion.

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Liberty275 2 years, 5 months ago

That's why the tenets of their philosophy breed dictators. Stalin, Pot, Mao, Il, Castro, some corporal, Jones. Take your pick. You might notice, the left always gets locked inside their own fence.

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Liberty275 2 years, 5 months ago

I'd say charisma instead of skill if I were to comment on why people are dumb enough to worship dictators. I will agree it takes some skill to manipulate people, but I think that develops inside one's self, not from something taught. I'll condition that by saying "first generation" dictators, as fellows like the new president or whatever of N Korea are raised and portrayed as virtual gods from birth, so all they need do to oppress the people is breathe.

Not from anything you said, but I'd like to see a list of dictators that didn't espouse and/or use socialism to grasp or keep power.

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GibsonJunkie 2 years, 5 months ago

It's funny because your comment contradicts itself.

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Scribeoflight 2 years, 5 months ago

I got banned, actually. Their current lag is about an hour behind.

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Mercy 2 years, 5 months ago

Scott, "Pro-life measures" "Pro-abortion supporters"

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Brian Hall 2 years, 5 months ago

So just because the anti-abortion people have clutched onto the Pro-Life nomenclature that means everyone who has no problem with abortion being legally safe and available are Pro-Death or Pro-Murder? If you read the comments, it is mainly about choice. Women telling the governor that he doesn't have the authority to tell women how to run their life. Which he doesn't. If you are fine with our governor and the other Republicans who are debating this non-issue taking away the right for women to do whatever they want to ease their uncomfortable or painful periods or to keep from giving birth to a baby they can't take care of or that may kill them (as one woman mentioned on the page) then don't come whining on here when our politicians start taking away your own rights.

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bradh 2 years, 5 months ago

Of course legislators have a right and authority to tell people what is right and what is wrong in society via laws. They tell us that you can't speed, that rape is wrong and also that murder is wrong. Abortion takes the life of another human being who has no CHOICE in the matter. Most people are at least uncomfortable with that idea, so obviously it isn't a non-issue, you just want it to be.

This was just a childish stunt, I'm surprised it is news, much less the headline. I'm sure you would have had a different take if the Pro-Life camp had filled up Sebellius' page with messages about the trauma the woman goes through after the abortion, or the less than ideal conditions the abortion was performed in, or the fact that they consider abortion murder since it takes another human's life. Just because you disagree with someone, it doesn't make it right to do crazy things to the person. At least I don't see any pro assassination comments, as there have been in the past.

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Liberty275 2 years, 5 months ago

The fetus can't choose and is a ward of the mother. So the mother gets to choose.

"Of course legislators have a right and authority to tell people what is right and what is wrong in society via laws."

That's how we need to stop thinking. The people grant authority to legislators to make decisions for us. It isn't a "right", it's a privilege that can be revoked during the next election.

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kernal 2 years, 5 months ago

Brad, you're too young to remember the real trauma women went through before abortions became legal. There are real horror stories from those days. Remorse after an abortion is not the same thing as trauma. Don't try to interchange the two, because they are not the same emotion. Trauma occurs after an illegal abortion gone bad, or an abortion forced on a person withouth consent. Remorse is regretting the decision.

The only reason I can see for remorse turning into trauma is because someone in the women's life twisted it around that way.

Just curious as to what you meant by less than ideal conditions the abortion was performed in? That to me sounds like the days before abortions were legal.

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deec 2 years, 5 months ago

You are free to "kill" anything living inside your body.

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Liberty275 2 years, 5 months ago

OK, but if we are free to kill anything in our bodies, why can't we kill all of it? Legally, abortion and suicide are laws at odds regarding the mother. Even if she isn't pregnant, do we allow her to kill any part of her body? How about all of it?

I support assisted suicide requested by any informed and lucid human for any reason. Pick a side.

Who knew abortion could be so interesting?

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Liberty275 2 years, 5 months ago

That was too cynical. Instead of being about killing, just make it about selling.

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Jon Jambor 2 years, 5 months ago

This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 5 months ago

I hope your college credentials are legit, as you campaign for a job with Guv Sam (Or do you already have one? Care to show us your pay stubs?)

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JayhawkFan1985 2 years, 5 months ago

I wish Facebook had a dislike button you could click...

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pace 2 years, 5 months ago

I find it wrong for Brownback to use our tax money and to create fake law to limit or block women from a civil right.

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Paul Wilson 2 years, 5 months ago

Murder is not a civil right. You lefties can rationalize and justify your demented killing of children till the cows come home. Bottom line...you're killing an innocent.

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booyalab 2 years, 5 months ago

It's not a slippery slope if it goes upwards.

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headdoctor 2 years, 5 months ago

Give them time and they will come up with a way to make women responsible for God's actions.

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akuna 2 years, 5 months ago

You're right, murder is not a civil right, but abortions are legal. That whole Roe Vs. Wade thing, you know.

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pace 2 years, 5 months ago

What you mean is that abortion is, to you, not a moral right. You must be confused about what civil rights are. I appreciate your faith and passion, I just don't agree with you that abortion is not a civil right.

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Corey Williams 2 years, 5 months ago

I'd appreciate their faith and passion more if they used either to help those children in need who have already been born.

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Alyosha 2 years, 5 months ago

What are your thoughts on the thousands of innocents killed by Americans in Iraq, Pork_ribs?

Also, you might want to consider your choice of words more carefully. "Murder" is defined is unlawfully killing another person.

Abortion is legal, so by legal definition it is not murder.

Also, can you define exactly what you mean by "you lefties"? Do you mean those who are left handed, like a baseball pitcher who one would call a "lefty"?

It's quite difficult to give your thoughts the respect I'm sure they deserve if you cannot render them in words that make any sense outside your own head.

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Liberty275 2 years, 5 months ago

"Bottom line...you're killing an innocent."

Freedom is an ugly thing sometimes. You can fight it like the right, dress it up pretty like the left or defend it like an American. The choice is yours.

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Calijhawk 2 years, 5 months ago

I find it interesting that those who want government out of a woman's body, for the most part, support Obamacare. If you want to see government intervention in not only women's health, but EVERYONE'S health, wait until THIS thing hits. Then there will be nothing about your body that the government (oops, this is America --your fellow countrymen) will not control.

Don't tell me I haven't read the bill. I have.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 5 months ago

I, on the other hand, find it interesting that the very same people who are so against health care regulation are the same people that are so interested in over regulating just women's health care.

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Paul Wilson 2 years, 5 months ago

When you understand the difference between murder and socialism...it will really be interesting to you.

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jonas_opines 2 years, 5 months ago

Lol, that doesn't even make any sense. Put down the jingoistic, cliched talking points and back away slowly.

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Paul Wilson 2 years, 5 months ago

People are against health care regulation (Obama Care) because it is Government taking over private industry. Socialism. People are interested in "interested in over regulating just women's health care" as cait48 put it, is because it includes Murder. And tax payer funded murder. Get it genius? Sign of a confused liberal: If you don't get it...blame 'it' instead of your brain.

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Corey Williams 2 years, 5 months ago

Prove that there is "tax payer funded murder" other than on death row. Let's see some sources.

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booyalab 2 years, 5 months ago

The sad thing is they make for pretty good bedfellows.

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Alyosha 2 years, 5 months ago

Can you define "socialism" as you're using it here?

Which of the 3 simple definitions below most closely match what you take the word to mean (taken from Dictionary.com)?

  1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
  2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
  3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

I fear that your attempts to communicate your thoughts continue to be hampered by an inability to discern what words actually mean. Have you tried reading the dictionary lately? It might greatly help you to render your thoughts into a form that make sense to others who don't live inside your own head.

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booyalab 2 years, 5 months ago

But I'm guessing you don't find it "interesting" enough to figure out why that might be.

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Liberty275 2 years, 5 months ago

"I find it interesting that those who want government out of a woman's body, for the most part, support Obamacare."

An agreement made between two humans for sex and money is where the left thinks the government enters a person's body.

As for Obamacare, any other than vague and general information gathered by a physician paid for by the government will violate the 4th amendment unless your doctor has a warrant or you volunteer information. And even then he'll will have to read you your Miranda Rights before anything but emergency care.

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Bob_Keeshan 2 years, 5 months ago

That's because Brownback has given them all jobs in Topeka.

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overthemoon 2 years, 5 months ago

There have been a lot of interesting comments on Moran's page as well, but he gives no indication of having read them.

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rtwngr 2 years, 5 months ago

I have read several of your replies to this thread and none of them are based in any fact, just conjecture. There is no discussion of ideas on your part just a lot of snide comments and name calling. Why don't you change your name to "obstinate"?

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Liberty275 2 years, 5 months ago

sarcasm<

That's not the problem. He's too busy reading bills just like all our legislators to ever see facebook.

/sarcasm<

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Liberty275 2 years, 5 months ago

LOL. Drat that html.

"forwards pointy thing"sarcasm"backwards pointy thing"

That's not the problem. He's too busy reading bills just like all our legislators to ever see facebook.

"forwards pointy thing"/sarcasm"backwards pointy thing"

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Michael LoBurgio 2 years, 5 months ago

Ask Dr. Brownback... Women (and Men) Ask the Governor for Reproductive Health Advice

Kansas Governor Brownback may soon have the chance to sign into law one of if not the most onerous anti-choice, anti-woman bill in the nation, including explicit directives for doctors to lie to women, amnesty from medical malpractice for doctors who do lie to women, forced utrasounds, additional taxes on women and prohibitions of what insurance they can buy with their own money.

The law is, in sum, a mandate for forced pregnancy.

Now that the governor has decided to control everyone's reproductive and sexual health lives from his office, the the women and men of the state are seeking his advice. We've taken some screenshots in case the office of the governor, which you will remember once went after a little girl for asking questions he did not like, decides to scrub them all.

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/03/15/dear-governor-brownback-women-and-men-ask-governor-advice

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Michael LoBurgio 2 years, 5 months ago

Kansas to Pregnant Women: "A Little Lie from Your Doctor Won't Hurt You"

We may not all agree about abortion, but we can all agree that these decisions ought to be made by a woman and her family, not a politician.

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/03/15/kansas-to-pregnant-women-little-lie-from-your-doctor-wont-hurt-you

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rtwngr 2 years, 5 months ago

If a family were involved there might be less abortions. The facts are that most of the time a "family" isn't involved when it should be. A panicked teenager goes into a Planned Parenthood office and is assured that "nobody needs to know". A lot of the time the abortion facility "counselor" psychologically becomes the surrogate family. For the abortion provider it is about money. It isn't about some altruistic mission on "Women's Health". For the girl it is about shame, fear, and a feeling of helplessness. She gets the abortion, Planned Parenthood gets the money and they send the girl out the door telling her she will feel better in a day or two. But she doesn't. She knows, in her heart, that she has ended a life. A life that for however brief of a time was a part of her. They didn't tell her about this. They didn't tell her about the depression. They didn't tell her that she would cry herself to sleep night after night. They didn't tell her that when she walked down the street, it would seem as if strangers seem would look at her as if they knew what she did. They didn't tell her that she would have to live with this the rest of her life. All they told her was that this was the best way and how much it would cost. They never told her to talk to her family.

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

I'm sorry, rtwngr, but your post fails on every level.

First, are you a woman who has had an abortion? If not, your entire comment is void.

If you are a man who is making comments based on what you think, say that, but don't try to be what you are not.

"For the abortion provider it is about money." And your source for this is what? PP is a nonprofit organization. The health care professiobnals who work there are taking in much less than their counterparts in the private sector. A large part of their mission is pre-birth counseling, but you would not know that as you get your ideas from those who also do not know what they're talking about.

Perhaps the girl (woman) who has the abortion does feel sorrow, but then we all feel sorrow at some point when we have to make a decision that leads in a direction we did not want to go. You also have no idea of the amount of "shame, fear and helplessness" she feels. Quit making stuff up just to further your uninformed agenda.

Not all abortion patients cry themselves to sleep "night after nght". You have no idea how many of these women are tremendously relieved not to have to face even more issues, issues of which you have no idea.

Good Lord, rtwngr, how do you live with yourself? It must be lonely being the omnipotent owner of all the feelings and emotions of a sex of which you are not even a part! How in the name of all that is holy to you can you say the things you say as fact without experiencing any of the pain that women go through in order to make the decisions you think of as light and mercurial?

I have no doubt that you truly believe what you say. I also have no doubt that you have no factual basis for your belief. I do, and I have no respect for your kind. Get some actual experience and then figure out what you believe--not what you're told by some knee-jerk, quasi-religious jerk who has a political, rather than a human, agenda to pursue.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 5 months ago

Not everyone is a mercenary capitalist like you, rtwngr.

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Alyosha 2 years, 5 months ago

This is a quite inflammatory claim: " For the abortion provider it is about money." Where is your evidence for that claim?

It's immoral and unethical to make claims you cannot back up with solid, verifiable evidence. Otherwise you are bearing false witness, which is prohibited by God.

It would be a shame if God were to condemn you to suffer eternal damnation just because you spoke out of an excess of emotion, and not reason, in a comment, wouldn't it?

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grammaddy 2 years, 5 months ago

I have a few choice words I'd like to post on Evil Sam's page, but in orde rto do that, you must first "like" his page. Couldn't bring myself to do that.

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Matthew Herbert 2 years, 5 months ago

Is anyone else surprised Gov. Brownback has a facebook?

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Mike Ford 2 years, 5 months ago

maybe he should advertise on the side of the Koch brothers trucks so I have another reason to give them the finger.

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

Sibelius did not do stupid things day after day. Sibelius invited the opinions of both "sides" of any issue. You may not have liked her, but you will have to search long and hard to find anything she did that totally ignored science and experience. Brownback does both of a daily basis.

On another point, just exactly why is Rothschild's reporting the fact of the matter a blatant liberal slant? Did he draw editorial conclusions? No. He simply stated the facts as they exist. The fact that you don't like where they lead is your problem, and the problem of the "conservatives" whom you worship.

You've heard the adage that you should not "shoot the messenger"? Well, that's exactly what you advocate. When the reporters report only what matches your, or the "left's", image of reality, we all lose. The unfortunate reality is that your governor has done and said many stupid things in his tenure, and reporters are the conduit through which we learn and are able to form opinions. Sorry you don't agree, but that's the way it is.

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

Cite some part of this story that ignores salient facts.

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

Again, cite some facts. Even one. Your rhetoric is empty, and your ignoring of facts is reprehensible. Have an original thought based on fact and you have listeners. Otherwise you fail--repeatedly. The "fact" that Brownback's Facebook page has experienced many, many comments contrary to his policies is a fact. That "this particular article is nothing but a call to liberals to bash conservatives" is not a fact.

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littlexav 2 years, 5 months ago

Really? Where does it say that? On my version of the internet, it says "Brownback’s Facebook page swamped with posts critical of his anti-abortion stance." Does it say "Hey everyone Sam Brownback sucks go to his Facebook page and write silly stuff on there! LOL!!!!!!!" on your version of the Internet? Because you might want to call your ISP if it does...

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

Topeka — Gov. Sam Brownback's Facebook page on Thursday was getting swamped with posts, some of them graphic, critical of his stance on abortion and other reproductive issues.

Brownback's spokeswoman could not be reached for comment.

Brownback signed into law several anti-abortion measures last year. The Legislature is considering several more this year.

Last month, Brownback was criticized by abortion rights supporters when he said women who want health care coverage that includes birth control but work for employers who oppose birth control based on religious reasons should go work elsewhere.

Copyright 2012 The Lawrence Journal-World. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. We strive to uphold our values for every story published.

Try reading the story, math. The facts exist. There is no call to arms to the "loony liberal left". The issue you have, believe it or not, is with the facts as presented and your shame for the governor who invites such comments as those on Facebook.

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Alyosha 2 years, 5 months ago

Actually, it's more logical to assume that Dolph has no problem with such a story — otherwise it would not run — and no problem with Mr. Rothschild himself.

It's you who see monsters under beds where none really exist. Dolph's a pretty clear thinking guy, wouldn't you think?

Or are you saying Dolph is not in control of his own paper?

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Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 5 months ago

"Far left haters" = anyone other than yourself. "Hysterical rants" is a slam against women. Look up the definition. "Conservatives" = the only citizens important to the nation, apparently. "God" = which god do you mean? Your exclusively Christian guy? "Traditional America" = Ward and June Cleaver, where people know their place because their church and big brother told them so.

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

Another far right rant from the guy who will not answer with facts supporting his comfy view of the political spectrum. You have a few other confused brothers and sister who do just as you: ignore facts in favor of your ideology.

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

I did NOT say his post was fact-based, but asked you to cite facts that supported your contentions agains his comment. Putting words into my mouth will not work, BAA, because I actually think before I speak, something you should try.

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

You are right in your thought that you can not help me. For your information, I have posted the entire story again so that you may read it in its entirety, rather than stop at the headline.

It is interesting that you, yourself, have interpreted the headline as a call to bash conservatives. This means to me that you have at least a modicum of shame for what the Kansas legislature and your governor have done to the state.

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Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 5 months ago

Not a Conservative. Republican. Get it right. Your attempts to portray our party as exclusively extremist only results in radicalizing it. Continue at this rate and you will have a half-dozen like minded folks in your bunker with you. You are a more effective campaigner for Obama than half of his biggest fans here.

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

He is an imposter because he doesn't believe his party is being represented by Brownback/Koch? The imposter is the one who wants us to believe theat the Republican party has all shrunk to the lowest common denominator. That would be you.

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Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 5 months ago

See? Proving my point exactly. If you're not as radical as I, then you're an imposter. Way to stretch out the "big tent". (You may need to look up the reference, BAA.) Imposter, indeed. Just like most of the folks on your side of the aisle, apparently. Good thing we have you to anchor our party in Correctness.

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Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 5 months ago

I've never, ever proclaimed to be a "right-winger". I will repeat. I am a Republican. Don't confuse the two. And in your situation you'd be best served not lining all up our Republican cohorts for your absolutist litmust test, because you'd soon find yourself in a very small room. I'd venture that I'm just as big-business loving, individual achievement championing, big-government critical, nanny-state hating as you are. You just believe in a different view of big government in folks' everyday lives, and their bodies, as I do. And when folks are offered a choice come this fall, I'd venture that your decorum on this site will turn far more toward reelecting Obama than joining you in your exclusive little "right wing" theocracy.

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Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 5 months ago

Sorry but I don't need to prove anything to anyone. Just remember. You do not speak for your party as you claim and it is not a monolith in any manner. You are merely an individual, just as I am. And the more radical a tack you take, the more I wonder if in fact YOU may be the imposter here.

A question for you? Do you honestly think your "my way or the highway" approach will garner many swing votes, particularly from women, this fall?

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

P_B, this guy will not reply in kind to anyone who asks specific questions, because he has nothing concrete to say. I have asked him time after time to reply with facts supporting his position and have been ignored time after time in favor of "talking points" that have nopthing to do with the subject and everything to do with obfuscation. Not worth the time it takes to read him.

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Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 5 months ago

"Left-wing extremist" who happened to vote twice for Reagan and for the Bushes all the way through. You, sir, are the extremist, demanding all Repubs drink the Christian kool-aid. And unless you can embrace some sort of middle ground with the moderates in your party you will absolutely contribute to the reelection Obama. So again I ask: Do you honestly think your "my way or the highway" approach will garner many swing votes, particularly from women, this fall?

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

For instance:

caughtinthemiddle (anonymous) replies… Cite some part of this story that ignores salient facts.

March 16, 2012 at 9:30 a.m.

Let's start here.

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

Sorry, BAA, I had work to do. But here is my response to the facts you cited in answer to my question:

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Now, as I said, you rarely, if ever answer direct queries as to your reasons for refuting a SR story. You have given no reason for which the facts of this story should not be believed, and have gone further by trashing his motives. To quote you: "In my eyes he is not credible" in speaking of you rather than Rothschild.

The problem you have, BAA, is that you refuse allow yourself to use the critical thinking skills you accuse the "loony left" of not having.

"Someone else has said that at the time he checked..." Not at all true, if you'll read the citation correctly. That was a sarcastic guess, and not even worth considering, but you bit like a fish because it fit your pre-conceived notions.

Give me something to believe in, or give me rational argument. Otherwise, your posts are meaningless.

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

By the way, BAA, here is the actual quote:

Armstrong (anonymous) says… It was probably more like 40 posts on Browbacks facebook page and 39 were form Lawrence. Makes for a good almost news story

March 16, 2012 at 10:29 a.m. ( permalink |

Facts? Not quite. Not even a nice try.

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Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 5 months ago

I'll try again. Do you honestly think your "my way or the highway" approach will garner many swing votes, particularly from women, this fall?

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Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 5 months ago

I appreciate your reponse. The point I was trying to get at was that your posts seem to show a world in only black and white ~ where as Americans we must subscribe absolutely to your moral code and your view of the role of Government, and where Republicans must align lock-step with your "right-wing" agenda, as you call it, or they are part of the Radical Left or Socialist or whatever you want to label it. Bob Dole is a radical in your world. "Your" Repubican party doesn't want any of this moderate stuff. So it's your way or the highway. And for a woman voter, do you offer any consolation to her for your perceived sovereignity over her reproductive organs? At least a "thank you?" Big government, legislated morality and the nanny state is part of this right-wing agenda. Do you think that is the best approach to garner the numbers the Republicans will need?

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Alyosha 2 years, 5 months ago

Can you define "Far left haters"? As opposed to "close" left haters? Or nearby right haters?

It's quite difficult for an impartial reader to understand what you mean in this comment. Try not using jargon or buzzwords that make sense only to a certain group of people, and instead try to use logic, reason and supportable claims to persuade others of the correctness of your point of view.

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Liberty275 2 years, 5 months ago

""close" left haters"

Bill and Hilary Clinton, although Bill was a lover, not a hater.

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Elaine Elliott 2 years, 5 months ago

If we are going to regulate women's bodies and choices can we start at a preventative point? Let's intervene BEFORE they even get pregnant. Tubal libations for everyone and when they can pay to reverse it themself THEN they can have kids. Then the issue of murder will never come up.

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deec 2 years, 5 months ago

Mandatory vasectomies for all males makes more sense. It is a simpler procedure and has a higher successful reversal rate.

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Katara 2 years, 5 months ago

Vasectomies are also less expensive and a less invasive procedure. The less invasive is a good thing because one can get back to normal daily activities (going to work, taking care of existing kids, house, etc.) much quicker.

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yourworstnightmare 2 years, 5 months ago

Governor Blowback continues to struggle with social media. He blows a lot at it.

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patkindle 2 years, 5 months ago

I HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHAT BUSINESS IT IS OF PEOPLE, IN REGARDS TO THE PRIVATE LIVES OF OTHERS DO THEY HAVE SO LITTLE TO DO WITH THIER OWN LIVES?

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Enlightenment 2 years, 5 months ago

It's interesting that most folks that are pro-life are also pro-war, very hypocritical.

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Kontum1972 2 years, 5 months ago

gee whiz the governor has time to have a Facebook page......?

i don't get it,.... why do u want to post all this personal information about your life online...?

my private life is no ones biz.....

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Armstrong 2 years, 5 months ago

It was probably more like 40 posts on Browbacks facebook page and 39 were form Lawrence. Makes for a good almost news story

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Armstrong 2 years, 5 months ago

Almost as good at off the subject posts as Tushkahouma. Keep tryin'

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Greg Cooper 2 years, 5 months ago

You mean, kind of of the subject like when the Kansas legislature debates and passes social engineering issues when what we were promised was jobs and economic recovery?

Besides which, the alcoholism problem is far more pervasive and "family-damaging" than abortion ever will be.

Your comment is almost as thoughtful as Brownback's wanting women to get another job or move elsewhere to solve their problems with his agenda. Completely misses the mark in terms of dealing with real issues and condoning "religious" social engineering.

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Armstrong 2 years, 5 months ago

Unemployment in KS 6.1%. I'll drink to that

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Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 5 months ago

A question to the would-be womb monitors out there: If I regard killing trees to be abhorrent may I forcibly occupy your land and prohibit you from cutting them down? And their little saplings? Just hoping for a little consistency. Good fences make good neighbors.

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Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 5 months ago

The righteous one has spoken. and his edict must be borne by all. Stay tuned for more pronouncements from your new leader.

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Corey Williams 2 years, 5 months ago

So don't kill babies then. There. Solved that.

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verity 2 years, 5 months ago

Methinks someone doth protest too much.

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John McCoy 2 years, 5 months ago

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Alex Parker 2 years, 5 months ago

If you see a comment, such as that one, that should be removed, the best course of action is to flag it.

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Kontum1972 2 years, 5 months ago

wonder how often mrs brown back gets it....?

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