Archive for Wednesday, March 14, 2012

Three Olathe men charged with illegally hunting deer in Douglas County

March 14, 2012, 12:39 p.m. Updated March 14, 2012, 3:54 p.m.


Douglas County prosecutors have filed criminal hunting charges against three more men in connection with December 2011 sting operation conducted by the Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks and Tourism.

District Attorney Charles Branson said his office had filed misdemeanor charges against two Olathe men, Raymond Francis Holden, 43, and Christopher James Sandow, 44.

The sting was conducted by the state wildlife department on Dec. 9, the last Friday of the firearm deer hunting season. The officers placed a life-size, taxidermied deer on private land in Douglas County to entice would-be poachers.

Both men pleaded not guilty Tuesday and have court hearings scheduled for April 10. A third man in the same incident, Theodore Louis Sandow, 50, of Olathe, has also been charged.

Another man charged as part of the operation, Darrell R. Norris, 70, rural Baldwin City, last week pleaded not guilty to four misdemeanor charges, including criminal hunting.


Jeremiah Jefferson 5 years, 10 months ago

Really, not guilty? Good luck with that.. I hope they slap them with the maximum penlaty allowed. Thats a good catch for the KDWP. Get these moron poachers off the road.

kernal 5 years, 10 months ago

And off private property when they don't have permission to be there, much less hunt there.

Enlightenment 5 years, 10 months ago

If found guilty, they should be required to take or re-take the hunter education course.

riverdrifter 5 years, 10 months ago

If found guilty, no hunting licenses for 5 years + fines. Then take hunter education course.

cowboy 5 years, 10 months ago

if convicted , two hours in a deer suit on the side of the road

juma 5 years, 10 months ago

Yeah, like deer are some sort of protected species? We need an open season on them to clear the roads.

asixbury 5 years, 10 months ago

That's not the issue; it is considered poaching when hunting on private land without the owner's permission. This was a major issue on the farm I used to live on. We would call the Department of Wildlife, but nothing ever came of it. Glad to see they caught some of these a-holes.

Scott Morgan 5 years, 10 months ago

juma, back in the day the county mounties did hunting fishing details. It was common when times were hard and a man was feeding his family the law turned a blind eye. Hey wait......we are in hard times.

Viva la difference.

Except we have a dozen layers, bureaucracies, ten times more folks inside looking at computers than Natty field folks. Thousands nation wide making 200K with not a clue what a hybrid fish looks like. What do all the millions really pay for?

Of course you hear of an arrest, you heard about them many moons ago.

08Champs 5 years, 10 months ago

My house sits on some acreage - and I can't imagine what I'd do to someone shooting blindly from the road toward my house & family. I'm not buying into this being an attempt to feed a hungry family. It's about people with guns being stupid. Yeah, THAT never happens.

Jeremiah Jefferson 5 years, 10 months ago

As usual, clueless people comenting on wildlife management who have most likely never hunted or spent time outdoors. There is an open season on deer that runs from mid September till the end of January depending on where you live. Thats almost 5 months, close to half a year of hunting opportunities for people who would like to hunt. The law is the law, and its very clear and consise. Its illegal to shoot a deer on private property with out permission from the landowner. Its illegal to shoot a deer from a motor vehicle. Its illegal to shoot a deer out of season, and its illegal to shoot them at night while using a spotlight. What is so hard about that?

The whole feed the hungry argument is absurd. Yeah back in the day it was acceptable, but back in the day there wasn't anything to shoot at because of that very idea. Ask most of the old timers and most will tell you that 40-50 years ago you didn't see deer and turkeys and if you did see one, it was a big deal. If it wasn't for wildlife management, game wardons and law enforcement we still wouldn't be hunting these animals. Don't get me wrong hunting is a great way to gather healthy food and a reasonable price and thats part of why guys hunt. But If you can't afford to do it legally then don't go. It doesn't give a person the right to poach and shoot onto private property with out permission. There are charities out there that will help sustain your family in time of need and if you still desire venison, there are even charities that have venison.

Clear the roads? Seriously? Never mind the suburbanites who think its cool to have a house with 10-20 acres in the country who created that problem to start with. They killed those deer and more importantly those viable hunting opportunites that would have kept the deer population in check. If you can't access the land you can't kill deer. Its these people who think the deer are cute and cuddley, feed them in their back yards and god forbid someone hunt the deer. Funny thing is, these are the very people who are complaining about the masses of deer that clog the roadways. There aren't too many deer, theres too many people encroaching into the habitat of deer. When that happens people are gona hit deer. So live with it and quit complaining. Slow down and pay attention when your driving.

At the end of the day nothing gives a person the right to hunt or shoot onto private property illegally. If you do and get caught, you should expect to be dealt with accordingly. I am glad to see the KDWP stepping up their efforts on enforcing the laws.

tolawdjk 5 years, 10 months ago

Amen. It is the "gentrification" of rural areas that ecourages the deer population to balloon in the first place. You get these 10-20 acre parcels, usually with water on them, usually with windberaks or treeline all connected with each other, all connected then to the river bottoms and corn fields. All this does is create a network of trails and pathways from food and forage to cover and safety. Other than the occaisional road a deer never has to be out in the open.

Further, you prevent any kind of hunting in that area, either by lack of access or by lack of safe sightlines, and remove any threat of natural predation, and of course the deer population will explode.

James Minor 5 years, 10 months ago

Those poachers should never be allowed to hunt again. You should never shoot from the road. Bullets can travel a lot farther than you expect and someone can be seriously hurt. What would the poachers excuse be? Uh, Officer I needed to feed my family cause the revenuers took my still.

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