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Kansas House member faces complaint over tax debate

March 6, 2012

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— A Democrat in the Kansas House faces an investigation into whether he intentionally misled colleagues during a debate last month on property tax legislation.

Twenty-six House Republicans filed a complaint Tuesday with the chamber's chief clerk against Rep. Jim Ward, of Wichita. House rules require that a committee be appointed to investigate, but Ward says there was no wrongdoing.

The Republicans want the House to consider removing Ward from his seat.

The GOP lawmakers contend Ward misled them about an amendment he offered to a bill imposing a cap on local property taxes.

Ward says Republicans didn't read the text of his amendment, which provided $45 million to local governments for property tax relief.

The House passed the bill with Ward's amendment, but reversed course a few days later.

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Steven Gaudreau 2 years, 7 months ago

Just like a Democrat to lie to get his way.

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WilburNether 2 years, 7 months ago

Ward said his amendment was not a gut & go, and it was. That is of huge significance.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 7 months ago

Now, if he'd have suggested murdering brown people from airplanes, they'd have no problem with that.

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WilburNether 2 years, 7 months ago

No, that is not his fault, but that's not the issue. Ward's lie is.

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classclown 2 years, 7 months ago

Why is this story coming from the Associated Press and not from LJWorlds own reporter whose job it is to report on such things as this?

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Alex Parker 2 years, 7 months ago

With the busy session, we have to pick and choose what we will cover and what we will take from the Associated Press. Scott Rothschild had two stories in today's paper, in addition to other stories he's working on. The AP exists for news organizations to publish stories they are not able to cover, and that's precisely why this story has an AP byline.

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JayhawkFan1985 2 years, 7 months ago

I thought the GOP was the party of personal responsibility. Shouldn't we expect our elected officials to read bills BEFORE voting on them? I don't know what the house chambers rules are, but legislative responsibility should include due diligence. hypocrites!

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question4u 2 years, 7 months ago

These are the same people who would not censure Virgil Peck for advocating mass murder. Peck called his comment a joke, but who, apart from a few really sick individuals, found that funny?

Exposing a bunch of House clowns who vote on bills without reading them? Now that's funny! The pathetic members of the Kansas House just can't help but give the rest of the country big laughs.

What will the headlines be? "Kansas State Representative Ousted from House for Revealing Peers' Incompetence"? "Kansas State Representatives Can't Read"? "Kansas State Representatives Unable to Pass Bills Without Instructions on How They Should Vote"? "Kansas State Representatives Do Their Best to Draw National Attention to Their Folly"?

Basically, anything that begins with "Kansas State Representatives..." is generally good for a laugh.

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Mike1949 2 years, 7 months ago

Sounds like 26 Republicans should be replaced with anyone except a republican. I guess they can't read, and to tell you the truth, I'm not surprised!

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Jan Rolls 2 years, 7 months ago

Should have had pictures of cartoons attached to the bill so they could understand it.

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texburgh 2 years, 7 months ago

I looked it all up on kslegislature.org. The original bill as it went to the House floor had a title and the text started on line 7. It continued through line 34 on page 1 and then onto page 2, lines 1-20.

Then I looked at the amendment report - the one used on the House floor to tell what Rep. Ward's amendment would do. Here are the FIRST TWO LINES of the amendment:

"I move to amend HB 2212, as amended by House Committee, on page 1, by striking all in lines 7 through 34; On page 2, by striking all in lines 1 through 20;"

Here are the real questions: Were the Republicans too stupid to read the amendment? They are allowed to have it read by the House reader, did they do that since they apparently were too busy to read it themselves? Where was Republican leadership? Aren't they supposed to track things to make sure their obedient party serfs don't embarrass themselves? Do Republicans have a reading proficiency deficit? Should they be given a remedial reading class at a community college? Or is it all of the above?

Nothing was hidden. But we'll censure Rep. Ward for not tutoring them in how to read an amendment? Of course we won't censure Rep. Peck for suggesting shooting illegals from helicopters or Speaker O'Neal for emailing veiled threats against the President or racist messages about the first lady.

What hypocrites.

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WilburNether 2 years, 7 months ago

"...we'll censure Rep. Ward for not tutoring them in how to read an amendment?"

No. That assertion is clueless. Ward lied to the House. That is the issue, and if he is censured, it will be for that.

You might wish to have a clue what you're talking about before making foolish assertions.

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deec 2 years, 7 months ago

What lie? Did he verbally tell them something other than what the bill said? Where is the proof he did so? Did they not read what they voted for? Have they never heard of "trust, but verify?" Perhaps they should consider censuring themselves for voting for a bill with which they were unfamiliar.

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John Kyle 2 years, 7 months ago

So the democrats offer $45 million in tax relief and the republicans took it away. Got it.

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Richard Heckler 2 years, 7 months ago

Sam Brownback hard at work trying to clear the way for another Brownback thinker which won't be a republican. It will be a Brownbacker..... he just cannot give up those beltway antics.

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yourworstnightmare 2 years, 7 months ago

The language in Ward's amendment was very clear. He was not hiding that this was a "gut and go". He was not obscuring or lying.

Having said that, he knew that none in the GOP would actually read it and would follow marching orders from their "leaders".

He was being mischievous in that he was counting on the laziness and lemming-like behavior of the GOP and that he could hide his amendment in plain sight.

I would think the GOP would want to stop talking about this. It makes them look very lazy and unserious.

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