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Second victim listed in altercation involving Marcus Morris

March 2, 2012

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A police report lists a second victim in an early Sunday morning fight at The Cave, 1200 Oread Ave., in which former Kansas University basketball player Marcus Morris and another man received battery citations.

Kim Murphree, a Lawrence police spokeswoman, said the victim, a 24-year-old Lawrence man, reported being hit and knocked down during the altercation, injuring his hand.

Earlier police said a male employee alleged he was punched by another man after a verbal dispute that turned physical. It was also alleged that another man punched the employee from behind. Morris, 22, and currently with the Houston Rockets, and Julius K. Harris, 23, of Philadelphia, received tickets for battery with notices to appear March 20 in Lawrence Municipal Court.

Comments

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 11 months ago

I've never been to the Cave, but all too often, bouncers at night clubs tend to be hot-heads themselves, and choose to escalate or even precipitate a situation rather than diffuse it. Not saying that's what happened here-- just saying'.

Given the number of altercations there since it's been open, perhaps management should review the training they give their staff.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 11 months ago

"The bouncer then began to get physical to get Morris to leave"

So, the bouncer started the fight.

jhawkinsf 2 years, 11 months ago

"Physical" might be something as simple as gently placing your hand on the shoulder of a drunk patron in an effort to gently guide him towards the door. After all, it was 2:00 and the bar is required to close at that time.

RDE87 2 years, 11 months ago

Might be, but not likely. I have no doubt that Morris was being difficult and that the bouncer did not deserve what happened to him but it was also closing time and the bouncer's patience was probably already spread thin so "gently placing his hand on Morris shoulder" is unlikely.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 11 months ago

Except for purposes of true self-defense, no bouncer ever has the right to put a hand on any patron.

The proper way to deal with it is to tell them it's time to go, and if they refuse the police will be called to arrest them for trespassing and any other applicable offenses.

jhawkinsf 2 years, 11 months ago

You're correct. Except that's not how the real world works. A gentle hand on the shoulder happens all the time. A drunk patron escalating the situation also happens all the time.
If the police were called whenever a drunk refused to leave when a gentle hand would suffice, then you may as well camp a cop at every bar, every night. And the real world consequence of that is that the bar would be shut down as a nuisance. That's real world.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 11 months ago

And in the real world, quite often that "gentle hand on the shoulder" is anything but gentle.

jhawkinsf 2 years, 11 months ago

I recall yesterday in a discussion about a bicycle accident, you were quick to note that the driver received a citation and that the bike rider didn't. You used this as "proof" that the bike rider was in the right. (I agree with you in that case). Please note that in this instance, the two patrons (Morris and his friend) were cited by police while the employee was not. "Proof" enough?

Sunny Parker 2 years, 11 months ago

A bunch of drunk people in a club, and bozo blames the sober staff. Figures!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 11 months ago

I expect that the Morris "posse" deserves a good deal of the blame, and probably even criminal sanctions. But the fact is that bouncers at clubs like these are often itching for a fight as much as those they are trying to remove.

classclown 2 years, 11 months ago

Should have just tased him and let him wake up in the street.

Tony Kisner 2 years, 11 months ago

The stereo typing on these comments are unfortunate. Enlightenment takes a step backwards.

blindrabbit 2 years, 11 months ago

Sounds like Nancy Longhurst and the Fritzels need to do a little sit-down about the management of The Cave. Did they hire Dennis Steffes to direct the operation, sounds kinda like his former Last Call.

Joe Hyde 2 years, 11 months ago

It's not just Marcus but all 1st Round NBA Draft Pick millionaires; they just need to somehow stay away from bars and clubs until their third year of being a pro. There's just too much chance of the social setting going haywire to where things get physical and a judge ends up taking away lots of that hard-won professional salary.

It's about playing off-court defense the smart way. Let the dummies score on you. Don't foul. Do not foul no matter what.

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