Officers with the Kansas Alcoholic Beverage Control and Kansas University and Lawrence police departments Thursday night cited five people in an effort to crack down on underage drinking and fake IDs.
Sgt. Trent McKinley, a Lawrence police spokesman, said officers checked nine licensed establishments as part of the Fake ID 101 task force operation. The citations included four charges for possession of alcohol by a minor and three charges for possession or use of a fake ID. Some people were cited for more than one charge.
ABC officers also issued administrative citations to three establishments — Bullwinkle’s, Tonic and Phoggy Dog — alleging employees allowed minors to possess alcohol. The ABC also cited Quinton’s Bar and Deli for failing to frame and hang its state liquor license in a conspicuous area.
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The_Big_B 11 months, 1 week ago
What were the ages of those cited? As in, were they really "minors" or just adult citizens who had not yet reached the arbitrary age of 21 years before engaging in otherwise lawful, adult activity? Just wondered.
Renaissance 11 months, 1 week ago
Let me put on my surprised face that Bullwinkle's got cited. That place is an open sore in this community and has been for a long time.
3up3down 11 months, 1 week ago
Let them drink at 16 like other countries. Just can't get a driver's license till they are 21 and enforce the harsh driving violations like they do.
jhawkinsf 11 months, 1 week ago
Most other countries do not rely on the use of cars as much as we do. If we were to deny drivers licenses to those under 21, we best be prepared to offer greater public transportation to and from school, to and from work, to and from after school activities, etc. In some communities, with the birth of a child comes a free child safety seat for use in cars. Maybe we can also offer a free bicycle at age 16. Free transportation and a healthier lifestyle.
homechanger 11 months, 1 week ago
"free" bikes. Nothing is free.
jhawkinsf 11 months, 1 week ago
Free for them. Taxpayer supported, you know, like building roads or schools. Call it an investment in better health now which should save money down the road.
wolfmn1958 11 months, 1 week ago
It's pretty bad that you can die for your country but can't drink a beer till your 21. I was born in 1958 an could legally drink when I was 18. I'm not much of a drinker,but I still disagree with the 21 age limit
Joe Hyde 11 months, 1 week ago
You and me both.
skinny 11 months, 1 week ago
I agree with wolfmn1958. They need to really crack down and be harsher on the violators instead of just slapping them on the hands like they do. Most kids when caught think it’s a joke! Wonder why!! A $200.00 fine and alcohol counseling classes for six months!! No wonder they continue to get repeat violations. It’s no deterrent!
KRichards 11 months, 1 week ago
Harsher on the violators? A $200 fine and 6 months of alcohol classes (also paid for by the violator) seems pretty harsh for a 20 year old adult having a beer.
whats_going_on 11 months, 1 week ago
Step away from the keyboard. Go outside. Chill.
AreUNorml 11 months, 1 week ago
I don't want to live in your uptight little world.
reality_check79 11 months, 1 week ago
Lowering the drinking age solves nothing... They are already drinking!!! The only way to solve it is to punish the kids who have fakes more harshly... They know they are underage, pay 50-100 bucks, send a pic overseas and a week later a fake comes back in a small box resembling a watch case with the fake of any state they choose in the middle... These fakes are legitimate, hologram and everything... Only difference is they don't scan when they are checked by law enforcement... Nothing bars can do until ABC comes in and writes them a fine... Spoiled kids don't care if a bar gets caught, has to close for a weekend, parents blame everyone but the idiot kid who costs bar owners and liquor store owners thousands in fines each year... Time for the new generation of spoiled kids to be held accountable...
JackMcKee 11 months, 1 week ago
I'm sure nobody in older generations ever thought of making fake IDs
pizzapete 11 months, 1 week ago
What is it with kids today that they need to drink alcohol? When I was a kid, me and my friends got together on the weekends and sat around a campfire roasting marshmellows, singing kumbaya, and talking about the volunteer work we were doing. We didn't need alcohol, cellphones, video games, or the internet for entertainment. An acoustic guitar, a bag of marshmellows, and the love of Jesus was all we needed to keep us busy.
COjayrocks 11 months, 1 week ago
Turn up your sarcasm meter, uniku.
pizzapete 11 months, 1 week ago
No, Mom kicked me out when she learned I was giving up Star Trek for Mormanism.
bornon7 11 months, 1 week ago
That's funny!
Frankie8 11 months, 1 week ago
And, then along came Jimi and tore that guitar up, kumbaya lost out to, Betty Jo's getting out today, grab on to something and hold on tight. We volunteered to dance til dawn, because Papa's got a brand new bag. And, at one point during a Rolling Stones concert I distinctly remember someone yelled," Jesus!. And, the reply came back, "rock on, my son." God, I loved those days.
LarryNative 11 months, 1 week ago
Minors drink in every establishment that serves alcohol. The police and ABC always check the same places. This type of policing is called selective enforcement and is illegal. This behavior is no different then the concept of racial profiling. The 6 bars that get checked every single time this "task force" raids them shoulg get together and file a lawsuit against the city, Corliss, police chief. Director of abc, the agents and all the members of the New Coalition that funds the raids. How often is the ABC in Goodland raiding bars or even Wichita?
parrothead8 11 months, 1 week ago
If the same six places get checked every time and they still get caught every time, that doesn't say a lot for the people running those six places.
You call it selective enforcement, I call it probable cause. If a crime happens and you know a repeat offender is in the area, you question them first.
LarryNative 11 months, 1 week ago
That might be true if these 6 bars were busted 100% of the time but it is more like 25%. If the police checked Freestate Brewery 100x a year, they would multiple violations too. ABC checked Freestate 1 time in 2011 and wrote an mip. So by your belief, the police had probable cause to check Freestate 20 more times and yet they were checked 0. They were caught 100% of the time in 2011 and no follow up. Why?
Bursting 11 months, 1 week ago
I work at a downtown bar, and they don't "raid" the bars, it's usually a couple undercovers that end up having a uniformed officer come to follow up. We get checked all the time so you saying that they selectively check bars is totally inaccurate.
LarryNative 11 months, 1 week ago
There is a paper trail of who gets checked and how many times. Out of 140+ licenses, only 40+ get checked once or more. Of those, about 10 are checked morevthen 5x. Of those 10, 6 are checked 25x or more. When 2 cops are in the business under cover, cops and agemts then come through the front and nacks doors, I call that a raid.
reality_check79 11 months, 1 week ago
Same 6??? Which 6 bars in Lawrence hmmmm hawk, ranch, quintons, abe n idiots, phoggy, saints, rbar, tonic, louises, cave, bull, wheel, fatsos, brothers, strip clubs??? Bird, paradise, or the herpes infested outhouse??? Please tell me which 6 bars are the issue lol... Is Goodland a college town with kids from all over the world??? Have you been to Wichita??? That campus is surrounded by the armpit of hell... The Wichita cops barely go there alone lol... Kids with fake I.D.'s are the issue the bars can only do so much and they have to pay for little Suzie (spells her name with a "z" so she is exotic) to go out split a fishbowl with her loud annoying friends the puke that blue crap everywhere then blame the bar for not enough liquor... Bars deal with this every night of the week!!! Start holding the kids accountable...
LarryNative 11 months, 1 week ago
The ljw ran a story which listed police numbers. Half the bars you named were checked 10% as much as the top bars being hit. You can search for the list if you like. I also love your theory that only college towns should only be enforced and since Wichita is dangerous, it can serve all the minors they want. Your theory is shared by the ABC but it is still selective enforcement and illegal.
reality_check79 11 months, 1 week ago
Maybe because that is where they catch the most??? I dunno, I don't go to a bakery and ask for a steak... I don't see kids with fakes going to the local applebees for beers and girls lol (not that applebees girls are not attractive)
LarryNative 11 months, 1 week ago
Then wake up because the minors do go to Applebees as well as all other chain restaurants. El Mezcal is a popular high school drinking hang out in the basement on Iowa. 23rd sr Brewery caters frat parties which means 75% are minors. List goes on and on but those businesses go unchecked.
reality_check79 11 months, 1 week ago
Maybe because that is where they catch the most??? I dunno, I don't go to a bakery and ask for a steak... I don't see kids with fakes going to the local applebees for beers and girls lol (not that applebees girls are not attractive)
geekin_topekan 11 months, 1 week ago
Isn't falsifying information to the state, like an ID, a level-IV felony? WHat happens to the Patriot Act on this one?
ssteve1 11 months, 1 week ago
In Lawrence? A college town?? And after watching MTV??? How can this be????
lily 11 months, 1 week ago
Legal age to drink is 21. Go by the law or pay the price. If you don't like it work to change it. That's what needs to get started. Call, write, email your congressmen, senators, whoever. I agree that if you can go to war at 18 you should be able to buy a drink, but it is the law. Of course, no one checks how bright you are for either but that's another story. If the same bars get checked then they should be diligent. This is a college town and there are the favorites, the "in" places and most accessible so not hard to figure out which ones will be checked regularly.
patkindle 11 months, 1 week ago
why cant they just sneak down to the basement and smoke pot like everyone else in lawrence? perhaps going to bars is more fun? oops never mind
Curtis Lange 11 months, 1 week ago
Waste of time/money as usual. Just lower the drinking age to 16 and raise the driving age to 18 already...
sickofdummies 11 months, 1 week ago
It really has nothing to do with what the legal age of drinking or driving SHOULD be. The age is set, has been for years. The issue is about following the law. You dont get to decide what laws should be, and which ones you should and should not follow. They all must be followed. If you disagree with it, fight the law, dont break it.
The_Big_B 11 months, 1 week ago
FW: this to Obama
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