Archive for Monday, June 4, 2012

Wheat harvest comes early

Timing may allow farmers to bring in second crop this year

Carl Flory, of rural Douglas County, started cutting wheat on June 4, 2012, which is three weeks earlier than usual.

June 4, 2012


To the average person, the mild winter didn’t mean much beyond providing a break from some outdoor work, such as shoveling snow from driveways. And after a warm spring it’s finally time, according to the calendar, to put on extra sunscreen and spend the days lounging by the pool.

The wheat farmers in Douglas County, however, may be busier than ever this year. They’ve just completed the first day of harvest, a day that, because of the weather, has come three weeks early.

Carl Flory, a farmer southwest of Lawrence, has been working a combine since he was 13 years old. Now 65, Flory says this year’s wheat crop is unique for him.

“We’ve never had this early of (a harvest),” Flory said.

To harvest the wheat, farmers first test the moisture content of the wheat stalk. If it is dry enough, a combine will cut the wheat, separating the stalk and the grain. The farmer then loads the grain and takes it to an elevator, and after the whole crop is harvested, he waits to begin planting until the fall.

With the harvest coming three weeks early, Bill Wood, Douglas County Extension director, said it is likely the farmers will take an extra step this summer: double-cropping. This means the farmers will plant a different type of crop where the wheat used to stand. For many in Douglas County, the crop will be soybeans, which along with corn is the main crop grown here.

“Double-cropping is a little risky because those soybeans aren’t going to have as long to grow ... but this year if we’re done harvesting early, I think there’s going to be a lot of people who say, ‘there’s going to be two more weeks than normal, so I’m going to go ahead and plant some soybeans,’” Wood said.

Flory plans on double-cropping in his fields but first wants to get 15,000 bushels of grain out of the 400 acres of wheat he planted. Flory is hopeful he can do so, but he also doesn’t want to count his bushels before they’re harvested.

“We’re one day away from a hailstorm; anything could happen,” he said.

Wood talked to workers at Baldwin Feed Co. and said the grain elevator has had one truckload of wheat, as well as many sample cuts, brought in as of Monday night. The wheat had a higher moisture content than what the elevator would normally like, but with dry weather Wood thinks farmers who haven’t already begun harvesting will begin in the next day or two.

Lucky for Flory and other wheat farmers in Douglas County, a hailstorm doesn’t seem to be in the near future and neither does any other precipitation for the next two weeks, which is about how long it should take for the wheat in the area to be harvested.

State climatologist Mary Knapp said to expect below-normal precipitation in the Lawrence area for the next 10 to 14 days, and after that, precipitation is equally likely to be above or below normal precipitation rates.

Knapp also said temperatures are expected to be warmer than average, but it doesn’t necessarily mean a repeat of last summer when the heat was far above average.

Wood said it is likely that the county’s corn and soybean crops, which were planted early by most farmers because of the weather, will also see an early harvest.

“As long as the weather cooperates, those crops probably will easily be ready three weeks early in the fall, too,” Wood said.


Alceste 6 years ago

Oh Goody. The WELFARE line begins. Let's visit the time period 1995---2010. Here are the hefty WELFARE top ten in Douglas County for WHEAT (when all that "FOOD" (not) is added up....the "list" has a different set of names. :,Kansas

Wheat Subsidies** in Douglas County, Kansas, 1995-2010

Subsidy Recipients 1 to 20 of 1,368

Recipients of Wheat Subsidies** from farms in Douglas County, Kansas totaled $5,596,000 in from 1995-2010.


Recipient (* ownership information available)


Wheat Subsidies** 1995-2010


Hagerman-craig Farms Inc ∗

Baldwin City, KS 66006



Rocking H Ranch Inc ∗

Berryton, KS 66409



Robert Gabriel Sr

Eudora, KS 66025



James Wiscombe

Overbrook, KS 66524



Guenther Bros Partnership ∗

Lawrence, KS 66047



May-way Farms Inc ∗

Baldwin City, KS 66006



Bernie R Faust Rev Trust

Overbrook, KS 66524



Triple B Farms Ptn ∗

Lawrence, KS 66049



Carl E Flory Rev Trust

Baldwin City, KS 66006



Kermit Kalb Rev Tr

Wellsville, KS 66092


Jeremiah Jefferson 6 years ago

You sir, obviously have never farmed or know anything about farming. I know several of the men on your list. While the information you posted is most likely accurate, some of the people you mention are the hardest working individuals you will find. I would challenge you to go work with some of these guys for a month or so and see just how easy farming is before publicly blasting them.

Alceste 6 years ago

"Blast"? Not. Simply posting the welfare roles for Douglas County, Kansas. The REAL welfare....the big money stuff....not the rinky dink $125 @ month food stamp recipient. shrug

Now these "corporations" won't even be being paying a single dime in state income tax thanks to the likes of their buddy Sam Brownback and his hack filled legislature.

JackMcKee 6 years ago

We're not talking about tending the field with a team of Oxen here. Comments like yours prove to me how little some people know about farming.

newmedia 6 years ago

Divide those totals by the 15 years you like to quote and it doesn't look quite the same does it?

guppypunkhead 6 years ago

wtf alceste? the farmers are having a good year!

Alceste 6 years ago

The wheat subsidies in Douglas County, Kansas and nationwide for that matter, pale in comparison to the corn .....and it ain't the corn peoples be eating neither. It bees the kind that makes ethanol to further line of the coffers of these "farmers" who also own most of the ethanol plants and also had the legislature ram down our throats that all gasoline in Kansas MAY have "up to 10% ethanol" and NOT have to post the data at the pump.

Here is the data for the corn boys:,Kansas

Corn Subsidies** in Douglas County, Kansas, 1995-2010

Subsidy Recipients 1 to 20 of 1,294 Recipients of Corn Subsidies** from farms in Douglas County, Kansas totaled $18,920,000 in from 1995-2010. Rank

Recipient ( ownership information available) Location Corn Subsidies* 1995-2010

1 Pine Family Farms Gen Ptn ∗

Lawrence, KS 66044


2 Nunemaker-ross Inc ∗

Lawrence, KS 66044


3 Guenther Bros Partnership ∗

Lawrence, KS 66047


4 Mark Neis

Eudora, KS 66025


5 Neis Brothers Ptn ∗

Eudora, KS 66025


6 Schaake Farms Inc ∗

Lawrence, KS 66046


7 Roger L Kitsmiller

Lawrence, KS 66046


8 Robert Gabriel Sr

Eudora, KS 66025


9 Ralph D Kitsmiller Rev Tr

Lawrence, KS 66046


10 Triple B Farms Ptn ∗

Lawrence, KS 66049


Funny how there's no farm subsidies for real food items, eh? Ain't it curious how these corn growers are getting a much stronger payoff than the wheat boys, even? But when ALL the WELFARE being given out to these fat cats is tallied up....whoa boy!

Alceste 6 years ago

Ain't about what Alceste eats. It about what bums on WELFARE are state tax free.......Jesus Wept.....

JackMcKee 6 years ago

I bet you get your shorts in a wad about some lady with 3 kids getting $250 per month.

JackMcKee 6 years ago

I don't know why. I just find it amusing that people like you have. no problem dishing out criticism on one group of welfare recipients whilst giving an attaboy pat on the back to another. If you had an honest bone in your body you'd see the blatant hypocrisy.

Maddy Griffin 6 years ago

Seems like the entire "growing season" has moved up by a month. Our apples,pears, and cherries usually don't mature until late July or early August.By the looks of what is on the trees,now, the fruit will be ready before Independence day.

Alceste 6 years ago

And just to go along with that mighty fine video, here's some more data on the WELFARE being paid out to the Carl E Flory Rev Trust. The Carl E Flory Rev Trust received payments totaling $456,688 from 1995 through 2010.

Crop Summary for Carl E Flory Rev Trust Crop Payments 1995-2010

Corn Subsidies** $185,722

Wheat Subsidies** $70,432

Soybean Subsidies** $65,439

Sorghum Subsidies** $43,385

Oat Subsidies** $32

Corn is King....and it ain't the kind of corn people eat....and, for the most part anymore, it ain't the same used as feed for cows and such. Oh well. Alceste has his own coupons to clip......gotta work on that Rev Trust thing. Thank you Sam Brownback. Not.

akt2 6 years ago

If you can't appreciate a field of wheat or watching the corn grow, or the farmers that grow it, you don't deserve to live in Kansas.

JackMcKee 6 years ago

The red states are all welfare queens. Without the Federal gub'ment Kansas would dry up and blow away.

Alceste 6 years ago

At your service:

•Kansas ranking: 6 of 50 States

Kansas Summary Information •$14.5 billion in subsidies 1995-2010. $8.76 billion in commodity subsidies. $2.48 billion in crop insurance subsidies. $2.15 billion in conservation subsidies. $1.07 billion in disaster subsidies. •32 percent of farms in Kansas did not collect subsidy payments - according to USDA. •Ten percent collected 69 percent of all subsidies. •Amounting to $8.29 billion over 16 years. •Top 10%: $26,895 average per year between 1995 and 2010. •Bottom 80%: $714 average per year between 1995 and 2010.

Him that has gets. And, again, these boys won't be paying dime one in state income tax thanks to their buddy in Topeka whilst the wage slave shall be paying more state income tax (not mention more sales tax and more property tax). Now that's the market place at work......NOT

Shane Garrett 6 years ago

Alceste: That is why a farmers cap bill is bent down at the corners. So they can stick their face in the mail box looking for the farm subsidy check. Hee Haw. One Kansas Farmer feeds 92 people including you.

MissinLawrence 6 years ago

Now the signs say 129 people + you!

lucky_guy 6 years ago

On one hand, the combine in the picture is probably $300K or more to buy. The land price is higher than a cat's back and going up. So expenses take a big chunk of a farmer's income.
On the other hand, farm prices are quite good so farmers could afford less in the way of subsidies. On the third hand, nearly every other country subsidizes their agriculture in some form or another if they can so the free market comments of Gotland are a joke. Just look at what we have done to the corn farmers of Mexico with NAFTA and see what free markets do for unsubsidized vs subsidized products. Lastly, most farmers do work hard, that is why there are so few of them. Working a large grain farm is like colonizing MARS. Long hours in the capsule of a vehicle, working on boring tasks, that may lead to a payoff at the end, and you are usually quite far from any discernible civilization.

JackMcKee 6 years ago

Land prices aren't just high, they're insane. A lot of "farmers" just own the ground while someone else does the actual work. There are fewer farmers today because technology has dramatically reduced the labor requirements for farming. Joe Bob living in Wichita County that can't get enough Fox News is the reason the state legislature is full of nitwits.

This is not the group of 'great Americans' they used to hold benefit concerts for.

gphawk89 6 years ago

It might not be that same group, but most of the farmers I know still work way longer hours than I ever have, even the ones that "just own the land".

Technology (I'm thinking GPS assistance) has made things somewhat easier but you still need to have someone sitting in the tractor / combine / grain truck doing the same amount of driving. And doing maintenance work on said tractor / combine / grain truck still takes time. And I'm not sure how technology helps you when you're pulling / fixing fence. Or clearing trees.

JackMcKee 6 years ago

Maybe you know something I don't, but my family has been farming in Kansas for 125 years. I guess reading Doanes is pretty taxing for some of them.

Alceste 6 years ago

Every five years or so, Congress promises a new, improved farm bill that will end unnecessary subsidies to big farmers, enhance the environment and actually do something to help small farmers and small towns. But what it usually does is find ways of disguising the old inequities, sending taxpayers dollars to wealthy farmers, accelerating the expansion of industrial farming, inflating land prices and further depopulating rural America.

The new five-year farm bill that could hit the Senate floor as early as this week promises more of the same — excessively generous handouts, combined with a serious erosion of environmental protections.

And read the New York Times editorial from June 2, 2012 if you dare:

Where the Trough Is Overflowing:

hooligan01 6 years ago

Its really cool that you can look at numbers. Why don't you try doing a day's worth of work once in your life. Loser.

JackMcKee 6 years ago

it's hard work cruising to the PO Box to get the check and deposit it in the bank.

hooligan01 6 years ago

And plus, I'd rather my tax dollars go to these farms than any of those lame liberal arts programs. At least these farmers do something for the community.

Alceste 6 years ago

So hooligan01 believes in WELFARE for the WEALTHY, eh? Excellent.

JackMcKee 6 years ago

yea, exactly, like makes my food cost 50% more. Thanks.

Chris Golledge 6 years ago

Wishing anyone that tries it the best of luck, but I'm thinking that attempting a double crop is risky. It could easily turn hot and dry before the seeds have a chance to germinate, or when they are still young, which would mean low yields. We only had a couple of inches of rain in May, and the average is 5 inches; so, I would guess the ground is less wet than ideal for germination at this time. Hard to say what June will bring, but it is looking pretty dry so far.

Of course, if you have irrigation equipment, that's all moot, except for the added expensive of using it.

Alceste 6 years ago

What? Don't like the East Coast elite? Here is the West side laying it down:

Large farms' crop insurance subsidies criticized

Carolyn Lochhead

Friday, June 1, 2012

Washington -- An unidentified farm in Kern and Kings counties received $1.64 million in government subsidies to buy crop insurance last year, according to data released Thursday by the Environmental Working Group, an organization that opposes such payments to large farms.

In 2000, Congress prohibited public disclosure of the names of farmers who receive subsidized crop insurance, a program that has quadrupled in size since 2002, to $9 billion last year. The Congressional Budget Office projected the program will cost $90 billion in the next decade.

The environmental group obtained more than a million insurance records under a federal Freedom of Information Act request. Each record specified the amount of the subsidy, the location of the farms and the crops insured.

This month, the Senate is set to debate a farm bill covering the next five years that would make crop insurance the chief form of support for agriculture instead of traditional subsidies for specific crops.

The measure would expand the insurance subsidies significantly and add a new entitlement program to guarantee the revenue of certain farms.

Anonymous recipients

Information on who gets crop insurance subsidies "should have formed the foundation of the debate" on the new farm bill, said Ken Cook, president of the Environmental Working Group.

"But scarcely a word in all of the hearings and all of the deliberations was focused on any of these important details: the tremendous concentration of benefits which this data definitely establishes, the fact that some beneficiaries are receiving a huge amount of subsidy from taxpayers, and the fact that we don't know who these beneficiaries are."

The analysis showed that the subsidies are concentrated on large farms, mainly the same ones that received traditional subsidies for corn, soybeans, wheat, dairy, cotton and rice.

Large farms benefit.

The government pays an average of 62 percent of a farmer's premiums and additional subsidies to insurance companies and agents, according to a report by the Government Accountability Office.

About 80 percent of farmers using crop insurance received an average of $5,000 in subsidies last year, indicating that the program, like traditional crop subsidies, skews its benefits to the largest farms. Twenty-six farms nationwide received more than $1 million each.

yourworstnightmare 6 years ago

Alceste, these numbers are quite stunning and illuminating.

The federal welfare that farmers in Kansas receive is staggering.

It is true nationally that red states like Kansas receive more federal subsidies than they pay in taxes, and it is also true at the state level: rural areas receive more state welfare than they contribute in taxes.

The political right has a name for this: welfare queens.

kernal 6 years ago

Alceste must be taking a lunch break before he posts soybean stats.

DaBellaDaBall 6 years ago

Question: How does a farmer double his income?

Answer: He puts out another mailbox.

I am proud to be a Kansan and come from a long line of wheat farmers. However, I must admit that it bothers me a great deal when we focus our frustration on the poor and scream that welfare mothers are killing our budget. Government farm subsidies were needed when we had small family farms. Today, the government pays massive amounts to wealthy "farmers" (CEOs) of corporate farms. Farming is a risky business, so some say this is needed. Well, all business has inherent risks. Don't like the risk? Get out of the business. I prefer that my tax dollars go to help the sick, the poor and to educate children.

DaBellaDaBall 6 years ago

And what's more, it strikes me as terribly ironic that the average Kansas farmer thinks of him/herself as a patriotic American, yet has become integral to the creation of a system of socialism. That's right. Farmers are socialists. Not by word, but by deed. A true capitalist would not accept these subsidies. So, talk that one over, farmers, while you sit in the cafe all morning drinking coffee and complaining about "big government," "welfare queens" and of course, how God's weather is ruining things for you. Hypocrites.

JackMcKee 6 years ago

They get paid to not grow anything to keep the price of grain artificially high. Ethanol probably doubles the cost of your beef.

Chris Golledge 6 years ago

I'm thinking that subsidies are one way of keeping supply higher than demand. Farming is inherently risky; you can't tell when planting whether the crop will be a bumper or something else. Pretty sure I can live without a lot of things, but I don't care to see what happens in this country if there isn't enough food to go around.

However, what is an appropriate level of subsidy is a good question.

gainhope 6 years ago

Alceste I have never posted on this site before because most of the people just like have something to complain about besides their own pitiful lives. Anyone can interrupt anything the way THEY want to and take it to a new level. Unless you have personal farmed yourself you do not really know anything about it and should keep your mouth shut! I grew up on a farm in DOUGLAS COUNTY! I grew up around the Flory’s and many others on the list you put out there for everyone to see. I know for a FACT that the Carl Flory has never farmed Oats. They also have not harvested corn like you posted: Crop Summary for Carl E Flory Rev Trust Crop Payments 1995-2010 Corn Subsidies** $185,722

You are wrong and do not know what you are talking about! Maybe you should mind your own business so the good people of Douglas County does not have to read about your ignorant misinformed information or your opinions. Just because it was posted on a web site does not make it true! Are you really that naïve or just ignorant. So farmers are welfare case you believe, what about the people that get some money from their tax returns? Are they welfare? Or are the churches and other non-profit organizations welfare too; because they except the grants from the government. Or donations from individuals that believe in something? Or what about the people write off their donations to non-profit organizations. The farmers that I know don’t own all or any of the land they farm. Hello, they cash rent it or do crop shares from the individuals that own it. Why are you bashing farmers calling them welfare anyways? You need to take a seriously look around Lawrence. There are MANY problems in Lawrence that needs to be addressed instead of blowing smoke up everyone’s butt and complaining about the farmers. Another question for you is why do you have so much time to keep posting on here? Are you a welfare case yourself? Do you need a job and have nothing better to do? The amounts you are quoting are not really that accurate so maybe you should stop typing. I do not really want a response from you. It will not be accurate and I have to go to the farmers market. One more thing to ponder…what does it cost the farmers to get health insurance, machinery insurance, or property tax and tags? Not to mention the cost of the seeds to plant, the fuel to run the equipment, the chemicals for the weeds and to prevent disease. Holy crap, maybe you are on to something! The farmers have been keeping the subsidies a secret and they are getting RICH from it! You should go on strike, do not by from the grocery store or anyone else either. You only eat what you grow yourself. Let’s see how long you will last. I promise you that you will not have time to sit down and type on the computer about nothing you know about.

Alceste 6 years ago

? You've made two other posts prior to this one, from the get your very own credibility is in question.

The statistics posted from are quite accurate. WELFARE SNEAKS don't like it when the public record is quoted....and when one signs up for price supports, subsidies, crop insurance, and all the other mumbo jumbo WELFARE programs out there for "farmers", name calling begins and then some.

Thank you, gainhope, for underscoring just how vicious the wealthy land baron, AgriBusiness businessman....errr....."farmer" really can be....

yourworstnightmare 6 years ago

DaBellaDaBall wrote: "And what's more, it strikes me as terribly ironic that the average Kansas farmer thinks of him/herself as a patriotic American, yet has become integral to the creation of a system of socialism. That's right. Farmers are socialists. Not by word, but by deed. A true capitalist would not accept these subsidies."

Exactly. Well put. However, I am sure they don't see it this way, because hand-outs to them are good and worthwhile, whereas all other government spending (not on them) is evil.

The Kansas First District: hotbed of socialism.

JHOK32 6 years ago

I have never understood why farmers get subsidies? I've heard people say that some farmers get paid by the government to not plant a crop .......... with all the starving people in the world is this actually true?

riverdrifter 6 years ago

A lot of fields here yielded around 60 bu, with test weight about the same. Not too bad.

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