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Proposed ban on abortion introduced in Kansas House

January 19, 2012

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— A proposed amendment to the Kansas Constitution to ban abortion has been formally introduced by 25 state House members.

The lawmakers filed their proposed "personhood" amendment Wednesday.

The measure would amend the state constitution's Bill of Rights to declare that Kansas guarantees the rights of every person, starting with fertilization of the human egg.

Critics say it's broad enough to ban common birth control methods. Even some abortion opponents are wary of the proposal, fearing its enactment would lead to a lawsuit and unfavorable court decisions.

Two-thirds of both the House and Senate must approve the measure for it to go to a statewide vote. It would appear on the ballot in the August primary, when approval by a simple majority of voters would change the constitution.

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jayhawxrok 2 years, 2 months ago

Anyone surprised Brownback the zealot and his monions did this? The evangeicals, America's Taliban just can't come to terms with the fact abortion is a legal medical procedure and whether they like it or not, America is not now, has never been and will never be a theocracy.

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verity 2 years, 3 months ago

I find it incomprehensible and absolutely outrageous that a constitutional amendment could be put on the ballot in an election in which many voters aren't allowed to vote. There is absolutely N O defense for such a blatant wrong.

This would most likely skew the vote even more than putting the new voting requirements in place before we've had time to deal with with the changes.

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observant 2 years, 3 months ago

Why don't these GOP/Teabaggers work at solving real problems Kansas has, instead of trying to impose their religious views on all of us?

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Kirk Larson 2 years, 3 months ago

Freedom of Choice. It's the American Way!

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Mary Alexander 2 years, 3 months ago

I agree with you jhawkinsf concerning talking but this personhood thing is just wrong!!

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jhawkinsf 2 years, 3 months ago

Both sides shouting at each other and no one listening. Start the conversation with something like this: yes women have the right to an abortion, but that right is not absolute. First trimester abortions are nobody's business but a woman and her doctor. Abortions for the purposes of gender selection are contrary to public morality and are outlawed. All births have some inherent risk. If the mother's life is in danger or if there is significant risk, abortions are permitted. Pregnancy cannot be terminated because of mental health concerns. Abortions in the ninth month are banned unless the mother's life is in danger. Same for eighth and seventh month. The sixth month depends on viability and may change with future medical advances. Before that, it's no one's business but the woman's. Start by talking about things we might agree on and then discuss the difficult things we disagree with. But if the conversation always begins at the polar opposites, we'll never agree on anything. Then we're just shouting at each other.

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Richard Heckler 2 years, 3 months ago

Mormons? Forget Mormons!

What about this?

Let's talk about the radical RINO dominated Christian Fundamentalists presidential candidates and politicians in office = Kansas most certainly?

These are the biggest liars on the planet over and above all other political candidates!!!

They dislike women, USA employment plus they want to control sex. Who are these loony crackpots?

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Abdu Omar 2 years, 3 months ago

The truth of the matter is that when a fetus becomes a human is when God puts the soul into it. No one knows exactly when that happens except God. So how do republicans know when the forming fetus is a baby, they are no where close to God.

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kujhawkfan 2 years, 3 months ago

FYI, independent voters can vote in the Democratic Primary in Kansas, they are just not allowed to vote in the Republican Primary.

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voevoda 2 years, 3 months ago

Why would any legislature want to protect the rights of zygotes at the expense of the rights of women? In strictly political terms: Zygotes don't vote. Women do. And how would this law, if passed, be enforced? Will Kansas women who get RU-486 out of state be prosecuted for murder? Will Kansas women who get fitted with an IUD out of state be prosecuted for voluntary manslaughter? Will out-of-state women who have IUDs be arrested as they cross into Kansas? Will women who miscarry be investigated on suspicion of murder or depraved indifference? Will the government step in to "protect" unborn children by requiring women who could become pregnant (that is, in childbearing years) to refrain from alcohol or caffeine, or strenuous exercise or dieting, or to require them to eat vegetables, take vitamins, etc.? Or, if the women refuse to obey, imprison them for reckless endangerment? Shades of Margaret Atwood, A Handmaid's Tale.

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verity 2 years, 3 months ago

How can a constitutional amendment appear on the ballet in a primary when independents can't vote? Please tell me that can't happen. Talk about disenfranchisement.

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parrothead8 2 years, 3 months ago

If men could get pregnant, this bill wouldn't get within 50 miles of the state House.

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Scut Farkus 2 years, 3 months ago

Men who masturbate will be tried for murder.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 3 months ago

http://news.yahoo.com/global-analysis-found-abortion-rates-had-stayed-same-184747890--abc-news.html

From the article: "What we clearly know is that making abortion less available does not make it performed less often," said Dr. Lauren Streicher, assistant clinical professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine. "It's just more unsafe. Condemning abortion is a cruel and failed strategy."

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JayhawkFan1985 2 years, 3 months ago

A cultural revolution of Taliban proportions is underway in Kansas. Step 1, try to ban all abortions in violation of the US Constitution. Step 2, cut funding for education, daycare, children's health insurance. Step 3, raise taxes on the poor and cut taxes on the 1%. Step 4, harass immigrants and nonwhites. Step 5, change the state's name to Missansas in honor of our new role models, Missouri and Mississippi.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 3 months ago

There is so much "back room, dirty politics" involved in this I'm surprised a roll of cigar smoke didn't come out of the state house when they left today.

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headdoctor 2 years, 3 months ago

Looks like another end run by the Republicans. Hurry up and get it on the ballot in a primary election where not everyone votes or wants to declare a party to vote. Just a simple majority of the primary voters would pass the amendment. Could they be more transparent.

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Katara 2 years, 3 months ago

Nice move. Putting this on the primary election rather than the general election. This certainly is a convenient way to stack deck in your favor since voters who are not affiliated with a party are not allowed to vote in primary elections.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 3 months ago

http://abortiondocs.org/ Anti-abortion zealots have upped the ante. One wonders how they would feel/what they would do if someone published there personal information on the internet and had their "war" brought to them? Why does this make me feel like George Tiller was just the opening salvo?

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SnakeFist 2 years, 3 months ago

At least they got the issue right. It has nothing to do with when life begins - the individual gametes and the zygote are all "alive", i.e., functioning, or else the pregnancy would not occur or proceed - and has everything to do with when the rights of personhood attach.

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geekin_topekan 2 years, 3 months ago

So illegals will be able to receive pre-natal care and amnesty because they are carrying a US citizen?

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tange 2 years, 3 months ago

If wishes were fishes, landlocked Kansas still would be casting its nets on the banks of a Late Cretaceous Western Interior Sea.

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beatrice 2 years, 3 months ago

Did you see where there are more abortions in countries that ban them than in those that do not? It was in the paper today: http://www.syracuse.com/have-you-heard/index.ssf/2012/01/countries_that_can_abortion_ha.html

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deec 2 years, 3 months ago

Its a jobs bill. They'll need to hire thousands of ladies' monthly undies inspectors. Are there any in-vitro clinics in Ks? Do those frozen embryos also get to be persons now, or do they remain popsicles? Will medicaid now be forced to provide services for all those alleged anchor baby mamas? After all, their embryos are people, so they are entitled to medical coverage.

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