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In State of State, Brownback outlines plan to cut Kansas personal income tax

Gov. Sam Bronwback said "that the State of our State is strong — and getting stronger," as he gave the State of the State address on Wed., January 11, 2012, in Topeka.

Gov. Sam Bronwback said "that the State of our State is strong — and getting stronger," as he gave the State of the State address on Wed., January 11, 2012, in Topeka.

January 11, 2012, 7:35 p.m. Updated January 11, 2012, 8:40 p.m.

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This word cloud was created using text from Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback's 2012 State of the State address. The larger the font, the more often the word was used.

This word cloud was created using text from Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback's 2012 State of the State address. The larger the font, the more often the word was used.

This word cloud was created using text from the Democratic response to Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback's 2012 State of the State address. The larger the font, the more often the word was used in the response.

This word cloud was created using text from the Democratic response to Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback's 2012 State of the State address. The larger the font, the more often the word was used in the response.

— Gov. Sam Brownback on Wednesday called for a cut in the state personal income tax and minimal budget increases, saying that will put Kansas in the fast lane on the road to economic growth.

"Let's put our 'lost decade' … in the rear view mirror and speed ahead — at 75 miles per hour — to make this decade the decade of growth and job creation," Brownback, a Republican, said in the State of the State address.

But his plan hit immediate bumps from legislators.

Brownback's proposal would cancel a scheduled decrease in the state sales tax rate, and eliminate many state tax credits and deductions, such as the deduction for charitable contributions and mortgage interest payments, and the earned income tax credit, which helps low-income families.

Senate President Steve Morris, R-Hugoton, said Brownback's tax plan and others that have been proposed for the 2012 legislative session need to be closely reviewed.

"Taxes are very important," Morris said. "We have to be very careful," he added. Morris said he wants to see the recommendations of a special tax committee he formed before reaching any conclusions.

Brownback's tax plan

On the state personal income tax, Brownback's plan would collapse the three current individual income tax rates into two.

Kansas' current tax rates for married couples filing jointly are 3.5 percent on the first $30,000 of income, 6.25 percent on income between $30,000 and $60,000, and 6.45 percent on the portion above $60,000.

Brownback's plan would tax 3 percent of the first $30,000 and 4.9 percent on the portion above that. It would also eliminate individual state income tax on most small businesses. This will affect 191,000 Kansas tax filers.

He said the proposal would provide a $425 tax cut on the median Kansas tax return of a married couple with one child filing jointly and income of $65,430.

But his plan would also make permanent the 6.3 cents per dollar state sales tax, which was scheduled to fall to 5.7 cents per dollar on July 1, 2013. That was a temporary tax increase approved in 2010 to help the state budget weather the Great Recession.

Democrats and some Republicans said they were concerned that Brownback's proposed income tax cut would shift the tax burden to property taxes. "If property taxes rise, that hurts everyone," said state Rep. Tom Sloan, R-Lawrence.

Brownback's tax proposal was the latest addition to the governor's sweeping agenda in his second year in office.

In his State of the State speech, he reviewed his other plans. They include replacing the public pension plan for new hires with a 401 (k) style savings plan; hiring private companies to manage Medicaid; pushing more responsibility for funding schools onto local taxpayers; and repeal of what he called the "use-it-or-lose-it" water law.

Spending caps

Brownback also pushed for a 2 percent cap on spending increases and devoting state revenues raised above that amount to more tax cuts. "This will get us even closer to the pro-growth states with no state income taxes, which are among the country's strongest performers," he said.

But Morris said holding the state budget to a 2 percent increase would be difficult to achieve. Mandated spending for pensions and social service caseloads alone would top 2 percent, he said, and that is before working on budgets for education, public safety and other areas.

Brownback said his budget plan for the next fiscal year would produce an ending balance of $465 million, but some legislators said such a large ending balance is unnecessary when there are many unmet needs in the state.

State Rep. Barbara Ballard, D-Lawrence, said cuts to schools and social services over the past several need to be addressed now before they hurt the state's future. "There is a price to pay for that," Ballard said.

Democratic response

Democrats, who are vastly outnumbered in the Legislature, on Wednesday offered an alternative agenda.

"Kansas Democrats cannot support a tax cut that makes the gap between the rich and the middle class even wider," said House Minority Leader Paul Davis of Lawrence. "We are particularly unwilling to support such a proposal while schools are limping along and other, more regressive taxes are driving Kansans into poverty," Davis said.

Democrats said they want to focus on creating jobs, funding schools and lowering property taxes.

The Democrats' economic proposal includes a group of bills aimed at improving job-training programs, and repairing aging buildings at state universities and city and county infrastructure. The measure calls for expanded gambling, including a casino in southeast Kansas and slot machines at racetracks.

On education, the Democrats have called for spending a portion of current and projected future surpluses to start restoring cuts to public schools.

"We believe that the school funding cuts in recent years have gone way too far," Davis said.

A portion of the greater-than-expected revenue flowing into state coffers — now standing at approximately $350 million — can also be used provide property tax relief, Democrats said.

Comments

Eileen Jones 2 years, 11 months ago

Brownback is on board with the oligarchs. It's mind-boggling that he considers himself a Christian.

peartree 2 years, 11 months ago

Has there been a schedule of specific proposed changes to tax rates released yet? Will the LJWorld post a link if it exists? Thanks!

neo_star 2 years, 11 months ago

I'm not sure the proposed changes have been submitted as a bill in the legislature at this time however, one of the state's best tax CPA doesn't like it:

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/blog/2012/01/a-closer-look-a-tax-pro-discusses.html

All of your itemized deductions will get thrown out of the Kansas return meaning most folks will barely break even on the deal. This is written for the very rich like a couple of brothers from Wichita that support the guy proposing it.

Fatty_McButterpants 2 years, 11 months ago

So, basically, rich people get three times the tax cut as do poor people. Brownback is such a jackass!

deec 2 years, 11 months ago

Actually lower income folks' taxes will probably rise, due to the elimination of the EIC and food sales tax credits.

Eileen Jones 2 years, 11 months ago

There should not be a sales tax on food. Period. Many states to not tax food. Minnesota, for example.

average 2 years, 11 months ago

The majority of states (31 of 45) with sales taxes exempt grocery purchases from sales tax. Most of the rest have some form of rebate or lower sales tax rate for groceries. If we eliminate the (meager and you have to be darned poor to qualify) food tax credit, we join only two states in the most-regressive category. Alabama and Mississippi. Great company.

littlexav 2 years, 11 months ago

Source? The only state I could find that exempts grocery purchases from sales tax is Texas.

TimW 2 years, 11 months ago

I'm not going to google a source for you, but 5 years living in Maine with no sales tax on food. 26 years in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts with no sales tax on food (that is not served to you) or clothing. The idea is you don't tax people on life's NECESSITIES.

I know that Mass. has since added a "snack tax" on things like soda and junk food which I see no problem with. I can't speak for the rest of the country, but I had honestly never even heard of a sales tax on groceries until I moved here.

sk_in_ks 2 years, 11 months ago

I was just in Oregon 24 hours ago. No sales tax on food.

Eileen Jones 2 years, 11 months ago

There should not be a sales tax on food. Period. Many states to not tax food. Minnesota, for example.

Fatty_McButterpants 2 years, 11 months ago

Put another way, someone making $1,500,000 a year will save $24,000 a year in income taxes. Someone making $15,000 a year will save $75 a year in income taxes. My God, what does one do with all the savings?!

JackMcKee 2 years, 11 months ago

It's not going to happen unless Brownbacks school finance proposal finds support. That's looking more and more unlikely.

Eileen Jones 2 years, 11 months ago

Brownback must have failed math. The money has to come from somewhere. Will it be property tax, and regressive sales tax?

There isn't any free lunch, Brownback. It costs money to run a state.

How about the super-wealthy paying a little more, like they used to when the country was prospering? We are still waiting for that trickle down thing to start working.

headdoctor 2 years, 11 months ago

Brownback didn't fail math. He knows exactly what he is doing. Where he is ignorant is of the consequences of his actions. Just like trading a little over 600 thousand for 1.2 million. He really doesn't give a crap about anyone but himself and his buddies.

In theory trickle down is a sound system. Just not in practical application in an environment where the Corporations and upper levels of the wealthy have no real restraint. There is no record of tax cuts or incentives that have ever produced jobs. The mentality of the modern Neo-Liberal prevents any concept of the trickle down theory from working.

chootspa 2 years, 11 months ago

He neither failed math nor is ignorant of the consequences of his actions. This is a deliberate strategy known as "starve the beast" where they force drastic social spending cuts by making drastic revenue cuts and forcing a financial crisis, which they then claim can only be resolved with more revenue cuts and social spending cuts.

In other words, lie and claim that tax cuts make more tax revenue (thanks Laffer for the consult) and then when that magically doesn't happen (Shock!) you claim it's time to lower taxes even more, and those poor school children and teachers will just have to tighten their belts like the rest of us... except for the rich.

If you don't like his plan, please let your representatives know it, and then let them know it again at the ballot box.

Cant_have_it_both_ways 2 years, 11 months ago

If you have more money in your pocket, you then have more control over your cash. You now have more buying power which, in turn, generates more sales taxes, jobs to create the goods and/or services you can now afford much easier, and overall is a much better system.

Phillbert 2 years, 11 months ago

Which is why Brownback's plan to increase taxes on the majority of Kansans so he can cut taxes for the rich minority is such a bad idea.

Plus when you don't have good schools, you don't have workers who can get better jobs or a workforce skilled enough to attract business.

Cant_have_it_both_ways 2 years, 11 months ago

Many of the reasons we need better schools are things like, teachers can't teach, they have to do documentation, administration for all the tops down requirements are redundant. Mainstreaming of less gifted kids with the gifted and no way to teach at the level they need. Unions have a whole lot to do with where the money goes. The whole system is jacked up from top to bottom.

There is nothing wrong with everyone paying taxes. The entitlement state is killing us and those of you who badmouth the rich need to re evaluate your position. You see, the playing field is level. If you choose to complain instead of doing what you can or need to do to achieve success, why is that my or the taxpayers problem?

Let left will always gain self fullfillment by spending other peoples money in the name of the good for the masses when in fact they are accomplishing the exact opposent.

KSManimal 2 years, 11 months ago

"those of you who badmouth the rich need to re evaluate your position. You see, the playing field is level."

Speaking out against the rich who wield their wealth in order to stack the deck in their favor is not equivalent to "badmouthing the rich." I know lots of rich people who don't behave in such ways, and more power to them and their money.

When you say the playing field is level, you are either ignorant or lying. Perhaps both. Here are just a few ways the playing field is NOT level:

Payroll (social security) tax: this is only levied on the first ~ $100K of income. In other words, if you make less than $100K you pay this tax on 100% of your income. Make $200K? You only pay it on 50% of your income. Make a million? You only pay this tax on 10% of your income.

Capital gains tax rates are generally lower than earned income tax rates. Who's income is primarily capital gains? "Rich" folks, of course. Who's income is primarily earned? "Poor" folks. If that seems level to you, perhaps you have an inner ear infection.

On a side note, how ironic that those who bloviate about not "punishing hard work" with taxes tend to be the same folks who support this particular regressive inequity. If you're really concerned with not punishing hard work, why not tax "sit on your butt and earn dividends" income at a far higher rate than "work your butt off 60 hours a week" income?

Sales tax: those with lower incomes usually spend 100% of what they earn. This means they pay sales tax on 100% of their income. Those with higher incomes tend not to spend it all, and therefore pay sales tax on much less than 100% of their income.

Brownback's tax proposals will only further skew the playing field. If you earn $30K, you get a 0.5% income tax cut. If you make $60K on up, you get a 1.55% cut on that income. Then, look at how he pays for these cuts: sales tax. By making the temporary increase permanent, a person earning, then spending $30K will see their income tax cut disappear at the cash register. Meanwhile, higher income earners - who got triple the rate income tax cut to begin with - won't spend all they earn, and so the higher sales tax won't come close to consuming their income tax cut.

You really need to turn off Fox News, then grab some facts and a calculator before posting online.

chootspa 2 years, 11 months ago

You do know that Finland mainstreams their kids an has over 90% union membership for their teachers, right?

deec 2 years, 11 months ago

Don't forget the stupid men who can't keep their zippers up. Maybe if the men would support their children, there would be less need for social programs. Of course since WIC, medicaid and food stamps are income based, most people who get these benefits also have jobs. Lousy, low paying jobs.

jafs 2 years, 11 months ago

Since deec was responding to the above post which criticized the women by saying "don't forget the stupid men", it seems clear that she is including them, not naming them exclusively.

Liberty275 2 years, 11 months ago

Nothing having to do with the position of men's zippers as used as metaphor in your post cannot be rectified with an abortion (or a choice, some female health, or whatever euphemism the left is using these days).

Betty Bartholomew 2 years, 11 months ago

Wow. If I didn't take such offense to your post, I wouldn't bother, and I'm sure this won't get through to you at all because your brain is obviously lacking any ability to process real thought. However:

I am on WIC. I have a job. I pay into the system and have every right to use the services for which my taxes help pay. My husband and I were married for two years before having a child, and I am not a stupid woman who could not keep her legs closed. We are on one income - mine - while my husband is in school full time.

You have your head screwed on backwards and need to learn about compassion.

littlexav 2 years, 11 months ago

Not sure about that - as a full time student taking 19 hours per semester, I worked a part time job and brought in an extra $12-$14k per year so I wouldn't have to use as many student loans. Hopefully if your husband isn't working he is at least staying home with your kid to save on daycare expense... otherwise send his butt to work!

63BC 2 years, 11 months ago

"more regressive taxes are driving Kansans into poverty," Davis said.

Presumably, he means the 6.3% sales tax...which he and the other Democrats imposed.

Now, it's driving Kansans into poverty? A lack of jobs is driving Kansans into poverty. Brownback's plan will create jobs. Let's do it.

Bob_Keeshan 2 years, 11 months ago

Typical childish response from the Kansas Republican Party.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 11 months ago

Taxes on the wealthy have decreased substantially over the last 30 years, and any jobs that has created have been in China. Your "job creator" theory has failed miserably in practice.

jafs 2 years, 11 months ago

"His plan would also make permanent the 6.3 cents per dollar state sales tax, which was scheduled to fall to 5.7 cents per dollar...a temporary tax increase approved...to help the state...weather the Great Recession".

Fossick 2 years, 11 months ago

63bc: Lucullus or Pompei? Just curious.

08Champs 2 years, 11 months ago

FREESTATEFAN There aren't words to describe the stupidity of those remarks. Legs closed? Last I checked, something needed to stay in someone's pants to help with that birth control method. If the "man" that "helps" with the pregnancy didn't walk away, I'm guessing there wouldn't be as many moms standing in line for extra cheese. Grow a pair.

headdoctor 2 years, 11 months ago

More symbolism over substance. Brownback isn't lowering taxes. Just transferring the load downward and to other taxes/authorities. Wouldn't surprise me to find out with the deductions and such that were listed in his plan to discontinue that there will actually be as much or more tax collected. Mostly from the families making less than a 100 grand per year with the bulk of it coming from the 25 to 50k income range.

whatupdown 2 years, 11 months ago

Brownback looks like a sheep but smells like a wolf; a Republican out to help the rich, the picture is too clear.

JayhawkFan1985 2 years, 11 months ago

Kansas tried using private companies to run the adoption services during the Bill Graves administration. It was a dismal failure. The same will be true of using private companies to run medicare. Regardless of what some right wing politicians and posters on this blog fantasize, there are times when the government is far more efficient than the private sector. The private sector has far too much redundancy built into it. The republicans would have you believe this is competition. Unfortunately, there really aren't any "free markets." That is a fantasy conconcted by economists. Markets exist only because government builds the plaza upon which the peddlers market their wares. Somebody has to pay for the plaza. Brownback would have everyone believe that the plaza is free. Well it isn't. For example, public schools in Kansas were once the best in the country, but they aren't anymore. Our public education is one of the things that makes this country great. You have to have a well educated citizenry and workforce to be successful. Another example is highways. Kansas is the envy of the rest of the country in this regard still. We won't be once state finances are decimated. Once the highways deteriorate, we'll never return them to the condition they're in now. We'll look like Missouri. God help us all.

question4u 2 years, 11 months ago

Well, at least it's the perfect strategy for getting himself voted out of the Governor's mansion. When property taxes skyrocket and that $425 income tax cut doesn't cover the increase, even the slowest intellects will finally get the picture. When Brownback makes permanent the sales tax increase so that he can give himself and other wealthy Kansans an income tax cut three times that of other Kansans, even the blindly partisan will have to open their eyes.

It wasn't very long ago that Kansas had a Democrat as governor. Do extremists think that won't happen again? Have all those who voted for Sebelius for two terms just disappeared? Did they leave the state? Did they die off? Did they become permanent supporters of the Republican party, no matter what Brownback might do to their children's schools, their communities arts organizations, their health benefits, and their personal finances?

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Brownback seems intent on driving anyone with a conscience or a grasp of logic out of the Republican party: driving them "at 75 miles per hour."

JackMcKee 2 years, 11 months ago

Here's my suggestion for a tax cut, remove sales taxes from purchases of basic necessities.

Kate Rogge 2 years, 11 months ago

Sorry. I meant this as a reply to Jack McKee.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 11 months ago

Brownback has it exactly backwards. Keep the income tax brackets as they are, add a bracket for incomes over $100,000, and use the extra income to a) fully fund state programs that have been cut over the last few years and b) eliminate the sales tax on food.

jayhawklawrence 2 years, 11 months ago

Will state income tax relief for small businesses spur job growth?

The best job creators are small businesses.

I think we have to determine how much of an impact this kind of tax relief will have before we decide to trash the whole plan.

Obviously, the pressures on local property tax and the funding of our education is a serious concern.

Also, Brownback's poor track record, his connections to the Koch brothers and Rick Perry, his past stumbles and his wishy washy explanations do not generate confidence in him as any kind of visionary leader.

pittstatebb 2 years, 11 months ago

The small business owners that I know, mainly the one that I am married to, do not base hiring/firing upon tax rates. They base employment upon how much services or goods the public consumes. The tax rate does effect one thing, how much they take home in profit. Given the choice between taking home an extra 6.5% in salary or hiring another worker to make more goods or services that are not currently needed I wonder which one small business owners will take?

verity 2 years, 11 months ago

Maybe I'm missing something here, but when does anyone hire a person to make goods and services that are not currently needed?

Mike Ford 2 years, 11 months ago

screw the public schools, we all need vouchers to go parochial and become churchlicans... it's part of the indoctrination...

JackMcKee 2 years, 11 months ago

I don't think Brownback ever had the intention of being Govenor of Kansas for the long term. None of these ideas are workable and I doubt any of them are enacted as Sam laid them out last night. We essentially have a lame duck Govenor 1 year into his term.

William Weissbeck 2 years, 11 months ago

Can you imagine Brownback's tax system as a story problem on a grade school math test? You need $400 million dollars. You used to get $200 million from tax receipts, but decide to reduce it by half. How much more money do you need from other sources to still have $400 million? The GOP always sells you a pig in a poke: reduce taxes on the rich/job creators and by magic the bean will grow into a giant bean stalk. OK, I mixed by fairy tales. An aside: It's clear from his proposal that he wants the state to renege on its pension obligations. He is doing what they are trying to do in Wisc and Mich - you can either have paved roads or pay promised public sector pensions, but you can't do both.

08Champs 2 years, 11 months ago

I'd like to have someone define" small business" as it pertains to the economic discussion. For many with feet on the ground, that's a mom & pop store, a lawncare business, or even a local doctor in family practice. I've heard others indicate it's up to 300 employees?

The reason I ask is that I've seen MANY a tax return in my day for "small businesses." In nearly every one, the tax deductions reduce the filer's tax debt to zero, or incredibly close. Always. Now I know these business owners aren't living on $0 or $1200 a year like the returns indicate. And OF COURSE the deductions they've taken are legal. But why are they allowed to pay little or no income tax when a W2'd employee gets the full burden? Because they employ other people, their reward is no taxes? I've seen the suggestion on this forum that people operate a "cash business" in order to thrive, and it ticks me off every time. Why are some of us left to pay for your education, your children's education, the roads you drive on, the inspection of the meat you put on your table and the Medicare you'll receive? Riddle me that, Batman.

headdoctor 2 years, 11 months ago

Good luck finding an answer for a definition of small business. Just like finding one for middle class. It use to be that the Government declared the gross income of 250,000.00 per year or less as a division point between small and medium. Now it is all over the map and up to 1500 employees.

08Champs 2 years, 11 months ago

As seems to often be the case, you reply not with an answer but with an agenda. I'm sincerely interested in a response, not bashing.

headdoctor 2 years, 11 months ago

vertigo, you would be correct if commenting about the upper level right-wingers. The posters here would only need to celebrate their ability to get an economy jug of White Port or Mad Dog 20-20. If they really save they might be into some Jack Daniels. That is what I have never understood. The poorly educated, angry red necks will keep supporting a party that will bend them over the same as any other working class citizen.

headdoctor 2 years, 11 months ago

I wouldn't waste my time posting to you in Pitts or First Lady speak. You wouldn't be able to understand complex the sentence structure.

jayhawklawrence 2 years, 11 months ago

Politicians= Poor management.

Why does Brownback and other right wing so called conservatives want to monkey with the money all the time and make revolutionary changes?

As the economy improves (and it will) these guys are going to take credit for the recovery while skimming off any surplus.

Here is an interesting article that points out some reasons why we can expect a upsurge in the US economy but if we had better management of our resources and our leaders actually interested in our well being, we could do a lot more. The current crop of political extremists are just not very smart people.

http://www.industryweek.com/articles/moving_jobs_offshore_becoming_harder_to_justify_26339.aspx?cid=NLIWD

jayhawklawrence 2 years, 11 months ago

Too many people in industry have become politically aligned to either the right wing (owners) and the left wing (labor).

As long as this continues, we will have trouble getting qualified candidates to run for political office.

I don't know why we have so many brainwashed people aligning themselve with extreme views but until we starting moving to the center and learn to cooperate we won't be able to compete in the global economy and we will continue to make dramatic mistakes in foreign policy and in our economy.

The world has changed dramatically in the last 25 years but instead of becoming better at managing change, our leaders have become ideologues and shills for political power brokers.

headdoctor 2 years, 11 months ago

What is racist? Last time I checked, angry red redneck isn't a race and none of the liquor choices are race specific. By they way. I am not angry. I am just sick to death of Neo-Liberals and spoiled brat baby boomers throwing a tantrum.

thebigspoon 2 years, 11 months ago

Agree that you said nothing racist, but expressed an anger we all feel, if from different viewpoints. I, too, am sick to death of spoiled brat anythings, be they "right" or "left" leaning. The problem, today, is that there is little that is expressed as "moderate". I have no doubt that the people of Kansas are not, as a whole, the rabid "conservative" ilk that Brownback and Koch would have the nation believe, but neither are they the "me, me, me" folk that are portrayed by you in this post. I believe strongly that you and I have the same goals in mind, and that, absent the epithet-hurling, we and the state's voters can come to a concensus as to how we want our state to be run. How about making this forum a basis for discussion and thought rather than a board of insult and derision. I will do my part, I promise. Can the rest of us do the same? Can we discontinue the blame game and try to come up with a view of the way we want Kansas to be? Hard to know, but I believe our strong sense of dignity will help us to become strong again.

thebigspoon 2 years, 11 months ago

FHNC, I understand your point, but it has nothing to do with what can actually happen. Do you have any ideas as to how to silly you sound when you ignore the comment to which you post without giving up any counter-proposal to make things work as you wish? Yours is a strong aversion to the current administrator without a strong plan as to how to fix what you perceive is wrong. How would you repair the economy? How would you address the problems we have rather than point blame at those you see as having caused/promoted those problems? That's what we need to be discussing--we already know you loathe Obama. And, unfortunately, your going on and on about him as a person is not going to go anywhere toward solving the issues.

As a side note, I'm not sure you have a terribly strong grasp on the actuality of federal government. It truly is not the president who carries out all of the terrible things you see happening, but a cooperative effort by him, the congress, the judiciary, and each of us who vote for whomever we vote. Obviously, our voting takes a little longer to make a difference, but you do see whee I'm coming from? Yes, the president has a great deal of power, but the federal system has a great deal more power in its checks and balances. Your best bet is to work within the system in whatever way you can to see changes that are agreeable to you to happen.

thebigspoon 2 years, 11 months ago

OK, and Haliburton got what was coming to them when the issue was discovered, and what difference does it make who was "in charge" anyway? Again, no solutions, just picking out single items that do not prove the rules you want changed..

Second, I did not understand your suggestion. Can you expand on what you mean?

thebigspoon 2 years, 11 months ago

Look up the definition of rabid, if you will. Implies pursuit of anything in the face of facts or situations to the contrary of the pursued item. Certainly applies to the conservatives of whom I spoke. If I were to deride them, I would use much stronger, much more belittling terms. Do not confuse belittling with deriding.

Thanks for your comment, however: I probably do need some oversight a times, and you can be counted on to be that overseer.

Matthew Herbert 2 years, 11 months ago

shifting the tax burden to property taxes......it's been a bad week in Lawrence, Kansas to be a landlord.

Eileen Jones 2 years, 11 months ago

Or a homeowner. Or someone who pays rent to a landlord.

George Lippencott 2 years, 11 months ago

So, let me understand this proposal. 1. We break the tie to the federal income tax system and make our tax filing that much more complicated – the rich use a pro. 2. We reduce the rates and eliminate deductions thereby transferring more of the income tax burden to the middle and lower income folks
3. We continue the temporary sales tax (a regressive tax) to further soak the lower income folk

We do this to make our state more business friendly. So Mr. Brownback believes that capitalism can only work if the wealthy among us are incentivized so they will provide jobs for the rest of us.

I look forward to his effort to transfer more of the costs of K-12 education to the local taxpayer so that component of our tax burden will increase further impacting the middle class. I am confident his numbers on income taxation depend on that transfer.

The Democratic Party alternative in contrast seems measured and responsible. Did we make a really serious mistake?

jafs 2 years, 11 months ago

I love the above comment.

But, why is anybody surprised that Brownback is doing this? It's exactly what conservative Republicans do, and advocate.

Katara 2 years, 11 months ago

I don't understand why people are so surprised. We all knew Brownback's ideology and politics when he was Senator. Why anyone thought he would change, I have no idea.

verity 2 years, 11 months ago

Another new word! Please spell it in English.

verity 2 years, 11 months ago

Thank you. I can now baffle and amaze people---or would that be too Sheldon Cooperish?

Sparko 2 years, 11 months ago

Deficits pay for themselves.

Brownback is a tool. How is that Boeing thing going, Sammy?

blindrabbit 2 years, 11 months ago

Notice the smile on the guy on the left side (Sammy's right) of the photograph accompaning this story; it's just Speaker O'Neal getting reactions to his most recent racist posting.

sciencegeek 2 years, 11 months ago

"eliminate mortgage payment deductions"

Don't we have a housing slump in this country? Is this the time to remove one of the incentives for home ownership? In what world does THAT make sense?

Logic and common sense don't matter to this administration. Reality is whatever they say it is. They will be long gone before the full extent of the damage is known--si ut diesn't matter? And you were worried!!

Eileen Jones 2 years, 11 months ago

This is absolutely shameful. This benefits the wealthy and puts it to the rest.

The newspaper is guilty of spinning this too. The headline should be:

Brownback increases sales tax and will force local communities to raise property taxes.

Richard Heckler 2 years, 11 months ago

Gov Sam Brownback is not telling Kansas Ciitizens aka leaving out certain details:

His income tax cut/tax cuts = a state wide tax increase = local taxes need to increase in order to make up the loss.

Hundreds of state legislators from all 50 states have gathered in New Orleans for the annual meeting of the American Legislative Exchange Council, known as ALEC.

Critics say the Washington-based organization plays a key role in helping corporations secretly draft model pro-business legislation that has been used by state lawmakers across the country.

Unlike many other organizations, ALEC’s membership includes both state lawmakers and corporate executives who gather behind closed doors to discuss and vote on model legislation.

In recent months, ALEC has come under increasing scrutiny for its role in drafting bills to: attack workers’ rights roll back environmental regulations privatize education funded with our tax dollars deregulate major industries * passing voter ID laws.

Nonetheless, this year’s annual ALEC meeting boasts the largest attendance in five years, with nearly 2,000 guests in attendance. Center for Media and Democracy organization released 800 model bills approved by companies and lawmakers at recent ALEC meetings.

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/8/5/secretive_corporate_legislative_group_alec_holds

Flap Doodle 2 years, 11 months ago

Quotation marks can be your friends, merrill. They would help people know when you are "quoting" something.

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