Archive for Sunday, February 26, 2012

Church hosting talk on immigration Sunday

February 26, 2012


Plymouth Congregational Church, 925 Vt., will host “A Christian Response to Immigration,” a talk and workshop led by Edith Rasell at 5:30 p.m. today in the Mayflower room of the church.

Rasell is the United Church of Christ minister for economic justice, based in the UCC’s national headquarters in Cleveland. She will also lead a class on social justice from 9:30 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. today in Room 201N of the church.


jhawkinsf 6 years, 2 months ago

I wonder if the "Christian Response to Immigration" is/should be any different than a Jewish, Muslim, atheist, etc., response to immigration?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 2 months ago

Umm, it's a Christian church. So they look for a Christian basis for their response to any issue.

jhawkinsf 6 years, 2 months ago

Yes, it's being hosted in a Christian church, but it's open to the public, hence the possibility that it might attract non-Christians. And I still wonder if their response to immigration is the same as other faiths or those of no faith. If it is strictly a church response to a government set of policies, should we be calling for a separation of church and state, as is done when the church responds to other government policies?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 2 months ago

I expect the level of xenophobia has more impact on a person's opinion on this issue than religion does, although some religions are certainly more xenophobic than others.

jhawkinsf 6 years, 2 months ago

I would expect that some people who call for a separation of church and state when the church disagrees with their position are more than willing to have the church speak out when they agree with the church's opinion. And visa versa.

Flap Doodle 6 years, 2 months ago

Legal immigration is one thing. Invasion by illegal aliens is something else.

Mike Ford 6 years, 2 months ago

Ask a Choctaw person or any other person about the invasion of european immigrants and their christianity before you speak.

Kathy Theis-Getto 6 years, 2 months ago

Illegal European immigrants....................................

Flap Doodle 6 years, 2 months ago

I would submit that the world is not the same as it was in the 16th Century. But that might be too fine a difference for a disappointed progressive to consider.

Kathy Theis-Getto 6 years, 2 months ago

Oh, dear, I forgot, Fred, only white men can make laws, right?

Let's start with genocide, murder, thievery, rape, kidnapping................

In 16th Century Connecticut:

"It was a fearful sight to see them thus frying in the fire and the streams of blood quenching the same, and horrible was the stink and scent thereof; but the victory seemed a sweet sacriface, and they gave the praise thereof to God, who had wrought so wonderfully for them, thus to enclose their enemies in their hands and give them so speedy a victory over so proud and insulting an enemy.

verity 6 years, 2 months ago

Before judging, you might want to attend the meeting.

I'm pretty sure they will welcome people of other faiths/religions or no faith at all.

Brittanicus 6 years, 2 months ago

The United States is at odds over illegal immigration. On the right side crave that tens of millions should be deported yesterday, as they have driven down wages and consume federal and state assistance services, while the majority evade taxes and at the same time wiring some $46 billion to support families in other countries. On the opposite side of the coin, as with the Liberals and Democrats who identify illegal aliens as future voters and model themselves as open border zealots that want no immigration enforcement whatsoever The Liberal Progressives want this country to forfeit its right, to define itself as a nation of laws and thus would commit financial suicide. The left does not care that the 20 to 30 million illegal immigrants and migrants do not pay enough taxes, to cover the overload of welfare and public services that they use.

It’s not adequate to say they pay gas, food, household goods and other sales tax. Because it no way covers the Heritage Foundation and American Federation Immigration reform report of $113 Billion dollars a year, going in free health, schooling for children and welfare and subsidiary cash payments, that are absorbed every year. A further estimate is that over 500.000 and use some means to illegally enter America, either by foreign flights or slipping past the undermanned border agents. Not all Presidential candidates have committed to building the real double parallel fences at the Southwest border. A promise of enforcing the fence has only come from the mouths of Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich. Ron Paul has remained mainly negative on the subject of border enforcement.

Brittanicus 6 years, 2 months ago

President Obama has expressed to the Democratic majority, that in the next five years following his inauguration, that he will pass a nation comprehensive immigration reform, containing a Dream Act legislation, unfettered chain migration for immediate family members and millions of agricultural jobs, that taxpayers will be forced to pay. Robert Rectors analysts at the Heritage Foundation have spoken in another report, that to complete this tyranny of action cost to taxpayers of $2.4 Trillion dollars to complete, adding even incendiary spending of Congress. Our only hope of getting out of this mess should be to unseat all pro-illegal immigrant incumbents, at all levels of government. Any elected official who says illegal aliens should have drivers licenses (Police chief Beck in California.) The Mayor of New Haven DeStefano, who issued Identity cards to foreigners, Governor Jerry Brown of California insisting there should be a path to citizenship, while dollars are rolled out for the millions of nationals their and citizens are forgotten and the hundreds of Governors, Mayors, Judges, Police and public officials in councils who run cities and towns have to be elected out of office. Strong mind Governors as Arizona’s Governors Jan Brewer, and other who are on the right side of the fence, should be reelected and moderate Democrats, should also join this financial battle.

The cost for assimilating illegal aliens on top of the flood of legal immigrants is unprecedented. These are further expenses we don’t need on the rising federal deficit in paying for two wars and Obama’s cronyism. The man has already bypassed the requirements of the 1986 Simpson/Mazzoli Immigration Act, and through presidential orders allowed backdoor amnesties for unlawful people. Many are now walking on our streets, thinking that after the 2012 election they will be granted a path to citizenship. You have already the years of abuse of criminals advancing there heinous occupations, leaving innocent victims blood in home invasion robberies, the murders and in the endless spotlight the drunken driving madness. Ice has been intimidated by radical organizations, who belief illegal aliens should have the same rights as citizens. Their determination to overturn the “Rule of Law” that has governed us, since the founding fathers first penned their signature on the U.S. Constitution. Both political parties are guilty of eroding this precious document. All are guilty of giving lip service to the oath of allegiance and abusing their positions.

Brittanicus 6 years, 2 months ago

Those of us that see this unapologetic corrosion in Washington can either turn a blind eye or find a place for themselves in the rising membership of the TEA PARTY. These tens of millions of ordinary folk spread out in thousands of chapters throughout America have realized that under the roots of either Democrats, Liberals or Republicans the Congress will follow the same old route as before. They will keep on printing money and the spending will continue. By overhauling the Senate and more of the House of Representative seats with Tea Party leadership, the same old favoritism will end. There will be a revolution in the Congress, as never seen before. Laws on Immigration will be enforced. Until green Power is further advanced, we will drill for oil, of which we have an ample supply to last a hundred years. The tea Party will approve our pipeline from Canada, to reduce the need for foreign supplies. Federal election regulations will be amended, so prove of who you really are by possessing a voter ID. This will disrupt non citizens from voting in future election cycles, that Democrats have specifically overlooked. This Tuesday Arizona will be put to the test with an election, thus millions of illegal aliens settled there are likely to scorn the law, if official picture ID is not evident for voting. Our freedoms have been jeopardized, unless we have a political party we can depend on, as our country is straining towards the wrong direction in our future. We have seen this with the harassment of Border States of Arizona, Alabama, Georgia, Utah, Indiana, South Carolina and newly joined state of Mississippi under considerable pressure from unfunded mandates from Washington.

All 50 States have been trying desperately to save their legal population into paying for illegal aliens, but have been intense bombardment for decades and initiated by religion, unions and radical minority groups. This will not happen under TEA PARTY legislation and in fact they will pass bills, as the mandatory E-Verify “THE LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT” (H.R.2885) Placing federal enforcement obstacles to halt illegal workers being hired, the “BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP ACT” (H.R.140) to right a wrong by amendment to a law that says no child gains instant citizenship if both parent owes allegiance to a foreign country. Soon as (H.R.2885) is enacted self-deportation or ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT will commence as with jobs unavailable, they will leave. This has been a huge mockery of our laws, as 300 thousand females annually will intentionally cross our border or enters as a tourist from another country, to have her baby here free of charge and then apply for a green card.

Brittanicus 6 years, 2 months ago

If you are not aware of “The Legal Workforce Act” that directly affects millions of citizens-residents jobs or the “Birthright Citizenship Act” that will contain billions of dollars in your revenue, then Google NUMBERSUSA for much in depth description and then report this fiasco to your prominent federal or state politician and demand they pass these laws. GET RID OF ALL THESE POLITICAL IDIOTS BEFORE THEY GIVE YOUR COUNTRY AWAY.

If you really want the truth about the illegal alien invasion and many other problematic issues that cause Americans unnecessary pain and suffering, then you need to view the uncensored pages, not suppressed by the Leftist media at www, For information about the corruption in Washington and state congressional seats of power, check the web site of the

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