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Statehouse Live: “Rubber stamp” incident over abortion bill generates more comment

February 14, 2012

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— The "rubber stamp" incident continues to reverberate in the Statehouse.

Peter Brownlie, president and chief executive officer of Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri, has written a letter critical of the way Kari Ann Rinker, state coordinator for the Kansas chapter of the National Organization for Women, delivered testimony last week in opposition to an abortion regulation bill.

Rinker, pulled an ink pad and rubber stamp from a paper bag, and told the House Federal and State Affairs Committee that since they had the votes to approve the bill to just go ahead and "rubber stamp" it. She also said the committee treated a Kansas NOW shabbily last year during testimony.

Several committee members criticized Rinker.

In a letter to the committee, Brownlie didn't mention Rinker by name, but said Planned Parenthood regretted testimony given that offended some on the committee. "As a trusted health care provider, Planned Parenthood's representatives always maintain a professional tone and respect for the legislative process and we hope others, regardless of their position on abortion, will do the same," Brownlie said.

In a piece Rinker wrote for Reproductive & Sexual Health Justice, she was unapologetic, saying that after years of offering testimony against numerous abortion bills approved by the Legislature, she tried a different tactic. She wrote: "So, how does a women’s reproductive rights advocate work within this establishment as it currently exists? We can stand before them, present all of the facts, try to encourage the legislative committees to consider science and not manufactured pseudo-science and withstand the barrage of ideologically driven, irrelevant line of questioning, thank them and then proceed home to lick our wounds and mourn our losses … or we can step outside of “protocol," challenge the norms and speak truth to power with every ounce of energy we have. This week, I choose the latter. I took a risk and I challenged the process itself, rather than focusing on the details of the latest and greatest legislative attack. I used a visual aid and I really, really ticked some people off."

Last year, Rinker had brought three spare tires to the Capitol in protest of comments made by state Rep. Pete DeGraaf, R-Mulvane.

During debate on a bill requiring women to buy additional insurance to cover abortion, state Rep. Barbara Bollier, R-Mission Hills, noted that abortions would not be covered for cases of rape and incest.

DeGraaf responded, “We do need to plan ahead, don’t we, in life?”

Bollier then asked, “And so, women need to plan ahead for issues that they have no control over with pregnancy?”

DeGraaf responded, “I have a spare tire in my car. I also have life insurance. I have a lot of things that I plan ahead for.”

Rinker said the remarks trivialized rape and were demeaning to women.

Comments

Cait McKnelly 3 years, 6 months ago

The vast majority of this committee is trivializing and demeaning to women. I'm getting really, really tired of paternalistic, middle aged and old white men, none of whom have a medical degree, deciding what's best for women's health care. In other news, the Washington State House ok'ed a bill requiring that insurance companies that cover maternity care also cover abortions. http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/WA-House-OKs-bill-tying-abortion-to-maternity-care-3313286.php

kansanjayhawk 3 years, 6 months ago

That is not correct--the committee was very respectful of all those that testified--it was the Planned Parenthood representative who was completely out of line in this case. No one was being "paternalistic" the fact is that many Kansans are pro-life and want to use the full extent of the rule of law- as permitted by the Courts--to begin limiting abortion on demand! The killing and destruction of the unborn child is something that most people in Kansas do not support!

Katara 3 years, 6 months ago

Advising women to plan ahead for rape is not respectful.

JayhawkFan1985 3 years, 6 months ago

A child has already been born. A fetus is inside the uterus. The legislative process requires participants to be open minded. Calling a fetus a child is relying on emotion, not reason. You appealed to the rule of law which requires reason, not emotion.

I would be willing to bet that most kansans wish that abortion would not be chosen. But, I would also bet that most kansans want that choice to remain legal. I think it is odd that in some articles in this blog the religious want government not to be allowed to tell them as believers how to worship, while simultaneously demanding government to dictate medical decisions others make. Stay out of my bedroom and my doctor's office...you've no business there. Like Jesus said, "you are hypocrites.". For full disclosure, I've been a happily married man for over 20 years, I've only been with one woman and she's only been with me, we've never had an abortion and we regularly use birth control as we think 2 kids are enough.

Mike1949 3 years, 6 months ago

Don't even to pretend to represent the majority of Kansas kansanjayhawk! For years (and probably before I moved back to my home state) Kansas has had balance, republican representatives who promised high crop prices, etc. in exchange for giving up our rights. We have most years had a Democratic Governor to keep them in check. We no longer have that balance (which I am sure is going to change next election) which people quickly found out how dangerous republican legislature and governor can be.

All we can do is try to limit how much damage the republicans will and has done to Kansas.

texburgh 3 years, 6 months ago

Wrong. Please read the article before posting knee-jerk responses that serve only to highlight your biases. She does not work for or represent Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood issued a statement criticizing her for what she did.

kansanjayhawk 3 years, 6 months ago

Sadly--it is Planned Parenthood Rinker's organization--that is know for lying to women!

texburgh 3 years, 6 months ago

Wrong again. Rinker is not with Planned Period. Please work on your reading comprehension.

Cait McKnelly 3 years, 6 months ago

I'm warning that this link could be triggering. It deals with some pretty graphic descriptions of blood and other things. But I really think that people need to know that this...this...is what these men could be dooming women to. It is a truth and a fact that no matter how many laws are put in place to prevent it, even to the extent of outright banning it, there will be women who feel they have no other choice but to abort. If they are not permitted to do it safely, some of them will die. To some of the people on this committee, that death is apt punishment; capital execution and death penalty by choice. In other words, "they got what they deserved". I don't find this particularly "pro-life".

Anatomy of an Unsafe Abortion http://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2012/02/11/anatomy-of-an-unsafe-abortion/

kansanjayhawk 3 years, 6 months ago

The fact is that there is no "safe" abortion. Abortion is the killing of an unborn human being it is certainly a dangerous procedure both physically and morally. We should do all we can as Christians to stop abortion both the so-called safe legal ones and the illegal ones.

James Nelson 3 years, 6 months ago

I believe the article stated that Ms. Rinker was appearing at the committee as a representative of the Kansas chapter of the National Organization for Women (NOW), not Planned Parenthood. We should not lose sight of the fact that there are plenty of Kansas Christians that are pro-choice. Recent polls show that a large majority of catholics are pro-choice also.

Jan Rolls 3 years, 6 months ago

What women do is no business of legislators. They should look to the national scene about birth control pills if they want to see what happens when men think they can decide for women.

Cait McKnelly 3 years, 6 months ago

More like the 1880s, Paul, when robber barons were legal and Freud (a known misogynist) infantilzed women; a philosophy Victorian men flocked to. Abortion wasn't illegal in the Middle Ages.

kansanjayhawk 3 years, 6 months ago

Abortion is the brutal violation of the human rights of the unborn child.

Mike1949 3 years, 6 months ago

You really need to renew your medication.

beatrice 3 years, 6 months ago

Chicken Little also cried the sky is falling, the sky is falling!

Obama has nothing to do with this story and the majority of Americans believe in at least limited access to abortion. Besides, you know if Republicans came out tomorrow saying they need to support abortion rights you would be right there screaming for them.

kansanjayhawk 3 years, 6 months ago

Most Americans have been moving toward the pro-life position. Americans reject late-term abortions, sex selection abortions, and abortion as a method of birth control. Most of the laws being proposed in Topeka are regulatory in nature that is the limit access and create regulations to protect women from filthy clinics and unsafe medical practice.

repaste 3 years, 6 months ago

You been in those clinics, are they dirty? Or are you simply letting us know how you feel about them. Unsafe? are these Dr.s harming women?

kansanjayhawk 3 years, 6 months ago

No but I did read the police report from the KCK clinic and I have heard women report on what they saw at some of these clinics!

jafs 3 years, 6 months ago

And, according to your own posts, existing regulations were sufficient - the problem was a lack of enforcement.

kansanjayhawk 3 years, 6 months ago

When the House passed Obama care without some members even reading it I guess that is much like a rubber stamp as well. This is how the game is played Rinker just does not like it that the pro-life side has the "rubberstamp" I'm quite sure she was fine with Sebelius using the Veto pen to enforce her will upon the majority!

kansanjayhawk 3 years, 6 months ago

I don't like any of the additional mandates and additional costs that the CBO reports will be passed on to health care consumers!

Cait McKnelly 3 years, 6 months ago

Thing is, it's not tyranny of the majority. It's tyranny by the minority. It's obstructionism by the minority to bring government to it's knees for the sole purpose of throwing a huge, infantile temper tantrum. Good thing there are provisions in the Constitution for the POTUS to work around that, whot?

somedude20 3 years, 6 months ago

I wonder if ole Sammie pulls a Santorum (no, not that one) when it comes to his daughters. "You can't be helped but my family can be"

Oh this silly little god of your that makes all of your life choices for you. You simple silly little cretins!

Enlightenment 3 years, 6 months ago

Republican SMOKE SCREEN. They have no viable solution to the mess the conservative, big business backing puppets in office created so they have to bring out the moral issues to distract voters.

kansanjayhawk 3 years, 6 months ago

Just remember that the "politically correct" left is the one that created this battle. They want the courts to rule on this issue from the bench and what they get is a backlash and they pretend to lament...

verity 3 years, 6 months ago

Shall we compare the "rubber stamp" statement to the "shoot them from helicopters like wild hogs" statement?

Oh, "rubber stamp" is so much more tasteless and awful.

Cait McKnelly 3 years, 6 months ago

I suggest that KJH reread the article. Kari Ann Rinker is state coordinator for the Kansas chapter of the National Organization for Women and has nothing to do with Planned Parenthood. Oh, did I out your ignorance?

deec 3 years, 6 months ago

I imagine napkins are easier to examine for evidence of illegal miscarriages like those fellers in Utah and Georgia wanted.

matahari 3 years, 6 months ago

dang! now I want a rubber stamp~! Wouldn't it be nice~

usnsnp 3 years, 6 months ago

Would like to see one reporter ask one of the Bishops the following question. Is it the ultimate goal to ban all abortions and the use of all Birth Control except what is approved by the Catholic church in the United States. This is their goal.

kansanjayhawk 3 years, 6 months ago

Abortion is the brutal violation of the human rights of the unborn child! Abortion is the dismemberment of another member of the human family and it should not be tolerated or accepted by society. In fact, traditionally abortion has been part of the criminal code and considered a crime against society and the family unit. It is a sign of the moral collapse of this nation that some celebrate abortion as something good, moral, and to the left almost a sacrament!

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