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Komen drops plan to cut Planned Parenthood grants

February 3, 2012

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— After three days of controversy, the Susan G. Komen for the Cure breast-cancer charity says it is reversing its decision to cut breast-screening grants to Planned Parenthood.

"We want to apologize to the American public for recent decisions that cast doubt upon our commitment to our mission of saving women's lives," a Komen statement said.

As first reported by The Associated Press on Tuesday, Komen had adopted criteria excluding Planned Parenthood from grants because it was under government investigation, notably a probe launched in Congress at the urging of anti-abortion groups.

Komen said Friday it would change the criteria so it wouldn't apply to such investigations.

"We will continue to fund existing grants, including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants," the statement said.

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Agnostick 2 years, 2 months ago

Everyone in this thread loses the argument. I lost, cowboy lost, BornAgainAmerican lost, cait48 lost. Other "losers" include verity, purplesage, yourworstnightmare, Yeoman2, tuschkahouma, right_thinker, its_just_math, theriddler, voevoda, deec, Katara, Cappy, Bunny_Hotcakes, saraj, Renaissance, ivalueamerica, Stain, jafs, citizen1, Armored_One, beatrice, pace, grammaddy, vertigo, sunny, RogueThrill, Fretster, and everyone else who's posted here so far. Including (again) me.

Here's the winner. She lost a lot of other things--but she wins this thread.

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cowboy 2 years, 2 months ago

New Information shows Komen organization flat out lied about cutting off Planned Parenthoods Cancer screening dollars.

Via Huffpost

But a Komen insider told HuffPost on Sunday that Karen Handel, Komen's staunchly anti-abortion vice president for public policy, was the main force behind the decision to defund Planned Parenthood and the attempt to make that decision look nonpolitical.

"Karen Handel was the prime instigator of this effort, and she herself personally came up with investigation criteria," the source, who requested anonymity for professional reasons, told HuffPost. "She said, 'If we just say it's about investigations, we can defund Planned Parenthood and no one can blame us for being political.'"

Emails between Komen leadership on the day the Planned Parenthood decision was announced, which were reviewed by HuffPost under the condition they not be published, confirm the source's description of Handel's sole "authority" in crafting and implementing the Planned Parenthood policy.

Handel's strategy to cut off Planned Parenthood involved drafting new guidelines that would prevent Komen from funding any organization that was under investigation by local, state or federal authorities. Since Planned Parenthood is currently the target of a congressional inquiry prompted by House Republicans into the way it uses government funds, the family planning provider would have been immediately disqualified from receiving new Komen grants.

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purplesage 2 years, 2 months ago

Save lives and Planned Parenthood do not belong in the same sentence. Anyone supporting the pro-death abortion community has no support of mine. Shame on Komen for the Cure for backing off an ethical decision under political pressure.

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verity 2 years, 2 months ago

Maybe the most important lesson to be taken from this is to investigate any charity before donating. Too many charities spend a very large percentage of the money you give them on administration and fund raising and very little ever gets to the cause they are supposedly pushing. With the internet, it's not hard to do the research. Then, whatever your beliefs, give to the organizations you find worthy.

In my opinion, overhead should not be over 15% and preferably lower.

Sounds like the exposure of the SGK is not going to be good for their business.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 2 months ago

"Why Komen decided to kow tow to the anti-abortion right wing is beyond me." Because Nancy Brinker, SGK's founder, sister of Susan G. Komen and the foundation's permanent CEO, is a hard line Republican who lives in TX and thinks Rick Perry has the greatest hair, EVAR. (She, herself, has had enough botox treatments to look like a plastic doll. The women couldn't crack a natural smile if she tried. Think Newt's current wife.) It's bothered Brinker for years that PP was getting money from SGK. and she's been looking for a way to cut them off for a long time. Karen Handler was hired specifically to do that.. Few people know that, some time ago, SGK also very quietly pulled all grants for stem cell research. Brinker made SGK a political organization. And the truth is, it's no more of a "charity" than the moon is made of green cheese, despite their 501(c) status. SGK is a business, pure and simple. It's whole function was to provide a handsome source of income for a few wealthy dilettantes. As for their name, Susan G. Komen for the CURE, they were never interested in finding a "cure". Finding an actual cure would have done their business in and they had a HUGE stake in preserving that business. Ironically, totally independent of the brouhaha over SGK, a movie, "Pink Ribbons", was released on Februrary 3. I predict it's going to raise the roof on, not just SGK, but a lot of so-called "breast cancer charities" Here's the link to the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QPZfc...

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yourworstnightmare 2 years, 2 months ago

Denying grants to Planned Parenthood was a huge, tone-deaf mistake by Komen.

Most wealthy philanthropists are what the right wing describes as the "liberal elite". While I think the term is incorrect, there is a kernal of truth here. Most folks who donate large sums to Komen and other charities are wealthy and support a woman's reproductive rights.

Why Komen decided to kow tow to the anti-abortion right wing is beyond me. These people generally don't support charities like Komen and instead give to religious based charities if at all.

From a purely strategic perspective, this was a dumb move. I think they realized that they could not count on the charity of right-wing anti-abortion zealots to support their cause, so they wisely backtracked.

The damage may have already been done. I will never again donate to Komen and will instead give more to Planned Parenthood, the American Cancer Society, and other charities dedicated to fighting breast cancer and improving women's health and freedom.

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Mike Ford 2 years, 2 months ago

dumb dumb babies overstepped......more blowback to follow......

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Fred Whitehead Jr. 2 years, 2 months ago

If the religious zealots manage to get abortion limited or banned, the slippery slope will have started. These people are facists who want to have your rights suppressed so they can enforce their twisted sharia style laws on everyone. Beware of them.

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BornAgainAmerican 2 years, 2 months ago

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Agnostick 2 years, 2 months ago

Fascist theocrats of all stripes are foaming at the mouth today. I can't say that I'm surprised. They refuse to acknowledge the fact that Komen wasn't bullied into changing their mind--they were bought.

Planned Parenthood has been overwhelmed with donations since Komen first announced their funding cut. Michael Bloomberg matched the first $250,000 that came in, and Livestrong (Lance Armstrong's group) gave $100,000.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/02/bloomberg-to-give-250000-to-planned-parenthood/?hp

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/livestrongr-joins-mayor-michael-bloomberg-and-philanthropic-partners-in-their-efforts-to-preserve-access-to-cancer-screening-for-women-with-a-100000-donation-to-planned-parenthood-2012-02-03

Perhaps what steams the con-servative (emphasis on "con") crowd so much is that the very market forces they (claim to) champion day in and day out, might actually bite them on the backside.

What will we find out about the political purchasing habits of America in the weeks and months ahead? Comparing the left/liberal/democrat to the right/conservative/evangelical/republican... which group...

Buys more yogurt?

Buys more fresh produce?

Buys more cheese?

Dark chocolate?

Vitamin C supplements?

Laundry and cleaning products?

http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/pink-in-the-grocery-aisle-the-dollars-and-cents-of-breast-cancer-awareness-products

The friendly pink ribbon is dead. We'll still see it around in the grocery aisles, but it has now become a rallying banner for some, a black flag for others. If Yoplait sales take a hit, not only will local grocery stores suffer, but Yoplait may have second thoughts about featuring the ribbon on their product label.

As the saying goes... follow the money.

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theriddler 2 years, 2 months ago

Sorry. Too late, Komen. Your blunder prompted me to explore your organization more fully. I discovered that while paying your executives in the high six figures, you gave only 21% of contributions to breast cancer research. In the meantime, you've sued small charities for daring to use the word "cure" in their fund-raising. Now it's all about the brand, not about women's lives. Fortunately, there are other, much more charitable organizations, that support breast cancer screening and prevention. That is where our money will go in the future."

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its_just_math 2 years, 2 months ago

The progressive cabal trying to seize control of this once great nation just slays me! This crowd will term anyone against abortion as a "right-wing Christian nutcase".

This is how far progressives have come the past 40 some-odd years.

Good going!

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its_just_math 2 years, 2 months ago

KlanParenthood took a page right of "Rules for Radicals" on this one. The fact that so many brainwashed sheep actually believe KlanParenthood (founded by a raging eugenist and racist--Margaret Sanger) is a "do-gooder" organization blows my mind. Well, I guess if you think 300,000 abortions a year are good, then you are a devotee of KlanParenthood.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 2 months ago

Don't get your hopes up or celebrate too soon. All they have said is that they will honor existing contracts (which they would have to do anyway). You can just about bet that if/when PP reapplies for next year they will be turned down. These people have spun so many different directions I'm surprised they haven't passed out from dizziness. First, they dropped PP because of the new "organizations under investigation" policy. Then it was "No, no that's not it! It's because PP doesn't have direct mammography services.", ignoring the fact that PP is the only provider of women's services to poor and uninsured women in many parts of the country and that they DO do the follow up services; making the appointment, paying for it and sometimes even driving the women to it if it's out of the county and they don't have transportation. Now, in this little bit of public "head bowing", it's back to the "investigation" policy. It's all spin, spin, spin and damage control. Now, if they fired Karen Handel, I just might..MIGHT...start taking their "remorse" seriously. But I don't see that happening. In fact, I fully believe this latest bit of "spin" has nothing to do with the public outcry but far more to do with the fact that corporate sponsors have started dropping them like a used floozy on a Saturday night (and I use that analogy deliberately, given Komen's history of "pink washing". A pink GUN? Really????) One of the things I find interesting about Komen's charge that PP is a "pass through" organization is the fact that Komen, itself, is a "pass through" organization. Many people are deciding to just skip Komen and donate directly to PP anyway. At least that way they know their money isn't having the top skimmed off for Komen's administration fees. And boy is that top being skimmed HARD! Komen spends an average of 83 MILLION dollars a year on administration, salaries and fund raising. In fact, more is spent on administration (22%) than what's spent on research grants (20%). That's a heckuva lot of walking, running and bake sales.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 2 months ago

http://www.salon.com/2012/02/04/susan_g_komen%E2%80%99s_priceless_gift/

"The starkly observable attack against something as crucial and basic as breast exams for poor women, as well as the fact that so many divergent voices were pulled into it, meant that the conversation was not about partisan politics; it was about women. For the first time in what feels like forever, passion and fury were being loudly, proudly given in a full-throated voice, on behalf of women – women as moral actors; women as citizens with rights, health, bodies, freedoms; women as people with families and economic concerns."

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Katara 2 years, 2 months ago

"As first reported by The Associated Press on Tuesday, Komen had adopted criteria excluding Planned Parenthood from grants because it was under government investigation, notably a probe launched in Congress at the urging of anti-abortion groups."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yet they declined to eliminate a $7.5 million grant to Penn State which is also currently under federal investigation courtesy of Sandusky.

http://jezebel.com/5881802/an-accounting-of-komens-staggering-financial-hypocrisy

They also have no problem accepting money from groups that are under investigation as well.

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deathpenaltyliberal 2 years, 2 months ago

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Armored_One 2 years, 2 months ago

There is a fairly simple solution to this whole abortion nonsense. Yes, I say nonsense because if men could have babies, this would be a non-issue.

Outlaw abortion, but that same legislation should create:

  • Child care based on your monthly income. If you have 1500 one month, you pay X amount next month. If that next month you make 1400, for one reason or another, you pay X-P%, P% being equal to the difference in income comparable to the base income.

  • State, federal or both funding established to pay for ALL neonatal care, including doctor visits, medicines, and in the advent that bedrest is required, workman's comp should pay 100% of the woman's income, based on an average of the 3 preceding months' income.

  • Legislation requiring employers to automatically approve time off for all medical needs, from doctor appointments to bedrest and everything in between. The fine for firing a woman for medical conditions related to her pregnancy, no matter the amount it contributes to the decision, should be prohibitively high, to the point of endangering the business' functionality itself.

  • Legislation passed that require hospitals to assign the costs of a live birth to be based on the woman previous 3 months income, unless on doctor prescribed bedrest, at which time the price would be based on the workman's comp decision.

I am sure that there are more points that would need to be addressed, but I know that those are monster ones.

Oh, and one more.

  • Women that are still in the public education system will be provided tutors, in the advent of bedrest, and all medical costs for them will be completely deferred, unless they have worked within the last 3 month preceding their pregnancy. In that case, the above rules for costs would be applied.

  • Women still int he public education system would be allowed to complete their education and receive their diploma as her medical needs require, with no forfiture of grades or any other requirements for graduation.

Or, in short, kids in high school would not be penalized in any shape, form or fashion for being pregnant.

But, since that might impact a man, doubt it would happen.

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BornAgainAmerican 2 years, 2 months ago

Bottom line here...SGK was bullied into reversal by the secular progressives and teh PP lobbyists. SGK will no longer receive my support. My mother is a 3 time breast cancer survivor, so that's saying something.

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citizen1 2 years, 2 months ago

I agree on prevention, but it takes both prevention & a reduction in promiscuity & its acceptance.

My comment on genocide stands, as the point is abortion on demand is an attack on a particular segment of society.

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citizen1 2 years, 2 months ago

Beatrice the issue is multifaceted. First is abortion on demand for any reason. Second is societal acceptance of promiscuity. Third is how to deal with real needs for abortion & the condition under which it is acceptable.

What is amazing is after 50+million abortions we do not call this situation genocide. We would in a 3rd world country. We railed against China restricting families to one cold with a preference for males.

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theriddler 2 years, 2 months ago

What upsets me about abortion is the young people that have careless sex and as a result, get an abortion because they don't want the baby. Abortion should be illegal for those types of females.

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citizen1 2 years, 2 months ago

Beatrice, rape Is the problem with the proabortion argument. It is hollow relative to the number of abortions each year.

I and others are concerned with the situation created by rape & incest. The issue is using abortion as a means of contraception.

Pro-Choice starts with self control prior to conception. Pro-Choice means exercising self control , restraint & taking proper precautions prior to having sex.

Before a man and women first practice to conceive, they should not deceive themselves about the probable results. If they did we would not be talking about Planned Parenthood.

With choice comes responsibility & consequences for those choices.

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sunny 2 years, 2 months ago

That is not what all the reports indicated. Most of them don't do any type of breast cancer screening!

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distant_voice 2 years, 2 months ago

My wife and I have given several thousand dollars to the S. G. Komen foundation over the years, believing they were using the money to fight cancer in women. Now I find they're funneling funds to the world's biggest abortion sales organization: planned parenthood. Komen won't see a penny of my money in the future, and lesson learned for other charitable institutions. Until I know where my money is going, they don't get it.

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grammaddy 2 years, 2 months ago

Regardless of the reversal, I will NOT support SGK any longer.Considering the amount of money raised by PP after the original decision,I'm hoping that someday soon SGK will have to ask PP for funding.

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citizen1 2 years, 2 months ago

Well Chet-larock, I don't want government involved with anybody's body. What should be a concern is when a person chooses to have an act performed on their body that kills another persons body. With freedom of choice comes major responsibility. Who is responsible for the child is killed? No, I dispise war. We have had enough!

I am concerned about all life. If you would please reread my earlier post objectively that point would be abundantly clear.

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chet_larock 2 years, 2 months ago

Hypocrites?? this post could be sarcasm and if so, the rest of my post can be disregarded or ridiculed. either way. but if it's NOT, citizen1,

how do you feel about war? crippling poverty where adults and children are dying because they lack the means for health screenings or paying for healthcare?

why do "pro-lifers" only seem to care about life between conception and birth? why don't "small government" advocates who don't want government meddling in our lives seem to think it's ok for government to dictate what people decide to do with their own bodies? the rand paul TSA incident is a perfect example. ridiculousness defined.

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pace 2 years, 2 months ago

I am glad they changed their mind. I was worried that only the right breast would be examined with their new guidelines.

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citizen1 2 years, 2 months ago

If this is all about saving lives, how about planned parenthood stop using funds to kill fetuses, 50+ million & counting, & devote those funds to cancer prevention. That would really save lives.

So called freedom if choice is not freedom of choice for those fetuses that are dying. Politics, semantics,& hypocrites make a deadly three some.

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Matthew Herbert 2 years, 2 months ago

The CEO for Susan G Komen foundation paid herself a salary of over $500,000 last year. If you give money to this charity and think that your money is going to cancer research, you are sadly mistaken.

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Bunny_Hotcakes 2 years, 2 months ago

Read between the lines:

"We will continue to fund existing grants, including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants," the statement said.

Translated: we're giving ourselves a window of time to come up with some "bulletproof" excuses to deny their future grant applications.

SGK has exposed its ugly underbelly. There are better breast cancer charities out there to support.

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Cant_have_it_both_ways 2 years, 2 months ago

Many I know would be willing to do the exams for free.

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Kirk Larson 2 years, 2 months ago

Good for them. Don't go caving in to those who would desecrate the truly American value of Freedom of Choice.

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