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Lawmakers won’t review concealed carry for blind

February 1, 2012

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A little-known provision in Kansas law that allows the blind and other people with serious physical infirmities to carry concealed weapons in public places likely will not get reviewed by state lawmakers this session.

Kansas legislators are expected to debate a proposal that would allow concealed carry permit holders to bring their guns onto college campuses and into many public buildings.

But the chief proponent of that bill said Wednesday he has no plans to introduce legislation that would clarify a 2010 law change that removed the ability of the Kansas Attorney General to deny a concealed carry license based on a person “suffering a physical infirmity which prevents the safe handling of a weapon.”

“I’m just trying to address my specific issue,” said Rep. Forrest Knox, R-Altoona, who has introduced the legislation that would allow guns on campuses and in other public buildings, if those buildings don’t have certain electronic security devices in place. “I have made an intentional choice to stick with this one particular issue and not try to broaden it out too much.”

Chuck Sexson, who oversees the concealed carry program for the Kansas Attorney General’s office, said he also is not aware of any pending legislation that would address the state’s ability to deny a license when there is evidence that an individual can’t safely handle a weapon.

The change was included in a 2010 law that revamped much of the state’s six-year-old concealed carry program. The changes include eliminating the requirement that license holders take a shooting test in order to renew their license. But when lawmakers made that change, they also eliminated a more general provision that gave the state the ability to deny a license to somebody who clearly had a physical condition that made it impossible to safely handle a gun, such as blindness or other infirmities where people have lost control of their motor functions.

When the Journal-World first reported the law change in February 2011, the Kansas Attorney General’s office expressed surprise in the law change. The office conducted a review of the new statue and by June confirmed that the state no longer had the ability to deny renewal applications based on evidence that an applicant couldn’t physically handle a firearm in a safe manner.

But Attorney General Derek Schmidt has declined to comment on whether he thinks the law change has weakened the concealed carry program. This week, a spokesman for Schmidt said the Attorney General had brought the issue up to some legislators. But the spokesman did not respond to a question about whether Schmidt was concerned by the change in the law.

In other gun related news from the Statehouse:

• Legislation was introduced Tuesday that would no longer make it a crime for people to carry a concealed switch-blade knife or other similar knife-like devices. House Bill 2584 was introduced by the House’s Committee on Federal and State Affairs. The bill would change a portion of the state’s criminal use of weapons statute so that it would no longer be illegal to sell, manufacture, purchase or possess any knife, including switch-blades, daggers and dirks. The proposed law strictly prohibits cities from passing any local laws regulating the possession of knives. Attempts to reach Rep. Steve Brunk, chairman of the House’s Committee on Federal and State Affairs, were not successful Tuesday.

• House Bill 2421 would make it so that personal firearms that are manufactured inside the state of Kansas and remain inside the state’s boundaries would not be subject to federal gun registration laws. Rep. Connie O’Brien, R-Tonganoxie, and Rep. Jana Goodman, R-Leavenworth, introduced the bill. Attempts to reach either lawmaker were not successful.

Comments

mr_right_wing 2 years, 2 months ago

Can a visually impaired person obtain a permit through Independence Inc?

Is literature about said permit avaiable in large print & braille? (ADA)

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catfishturkeyhunter 2 years, 2 months ago

Blind people should have to use tactical shotguns. Better chance of hitting the target.

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oldbaldguy 2 years, 2 months ago

I guess cannons will be ok in Kansas.. I have a gun permit for Kansas. Not sure what to think about the blind having one. I think the issuing authority should have some lattitude. I like guns, have a few. Wore one or more off an on for twenty years. For a while felt naked without one. Also used to jump and look for cover when there was a loud noise nearby. Don't anymore. I carry a weapon when I am out in the field, hiking, hunting, and camping where it is authorized.

Everyone just needs to take a deep breath and start working to get moderates in the Statehouse. If not more and better stuff is on the way.

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mr_right_wing 2 years, 2 months ago

white cane in one hand..... .....pistol in the other!!

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Antonym 2 years, 2 months ago

If someone attacked me with a cane, a dog and a snub nose .44 special intending to put my lights out then hopefully I could shoot them first or maybe even someone near by who was carrying would see the crime, if they weren't blind, and shoot them for me. Heck, even if they were blind they could take a couple shots. EVERYBODY should carry a gun, everywhere, all the time. There should be guns in special boxes along the sidewalk with glass fronts that say break this glass to obtain gun if you need to shoot someone. That way people who can't afford guns would have equal access.

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observant 2 years, 2 months ago

Hope they also let the blind carry their weapons into Capitol bldg as well. Why is it OK to carry anywhere except where these elected officials are? What makes them so special, that nutcases can't go after them? Maybe if the nutcases could, we'd have fewer nutcases in elected office.

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pace 2 years, 2 months ago

I like guns but this "provision' smells fishy. I feel there is a story behind it. Some pal or contributor wanted this provision dropped. I didn't use to feel this about the Kansas house, I was probably naive. I watch bills and laws, which are not aimed to further jobs, health, fairness, just aimed to either satisfy some big buch adventure, or "christian" tenet, or to divert money from one population to "job creators" or to break the backs of perceived opponents. It is just another Brownie black hole. lNow a Brownie black hole is different from open and transparent. Brownback claims the state is in good financial shape and yet so desperate, they must raise taxes on the poor and middle class, make cuts to education, not repair or actually sells infrastructure, and MUST cut taxes to the richest. So we are suppose to believe their isn't some McGoo who wants to holster.

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sditt54 2 years, 2 months ago

WTF! Blind and severely disabled people can carry a concealed handgun in public? Next thing you'll tell me is they also qualify for a drivers license. Same difference.

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jayhawklawrence 2 years, 2 months ago

You don't have to have a law for everything which is why you don't see blind security guards.

This is unnecessary nonsense and political theater.

It just means the gun-haters are busy again and it might be time to buy more guns and ammo while we still can.

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tolawdjk 2 years, 2 months ago

A .357 has the perfect resonance to allow for echo location. Fire once to get your bearings, fire twice to bring him down.

Just like Daredevil.

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Gotland 2 years, 2 months ago

The left likes to exclude certain groups from their constitutional rights based on their great powers to judge others ability to practice these rights. Whether it is people of color who live in a city with them or the blind, the left is wise and paternal.

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somedude20 2 years, 2 months ago

A blind person can own, hide and shoot a gun but a sickly, dying person can't smoke a joint and two gay people can not legally make love to each other..... sounds like a bumper sticker describing a Kansas Republican

Come to Kansas where the blind shoot, the dying get no relief and gays can't make coitus

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catfishturkeyhunter 2 years, 2 months ago

Are the blind and disabled not protected by the constitution? Equal rights for everyone.

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RoeDapple 2 years, 2 months ago

"House Bill 2421 would make it so that personal firearms that are manufactured inside the state of Kansas and remain inside the state’s boundaries would not be subject to federal gun registration laws."

Would that include full auto weapons or shotguns/rifles with barrels shorter than 18"?

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jaywalker 2 years, 2 months ago

I guess I'm the only one surprised. When I saw the headline I thought, "Well good, the blind probably shouldn't be packing heat, no matter what transpires in the Book of Eli." To find the law allows such shocked me.

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Steve Bunch 2 years, 2 months ago

Only blind sodomites should have concealed carry in Kansas.

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Ragingbear 2 years, 2 months ago

LJworld is big about reporting things not happening.

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RoeDapple 2 years, 2 months ago

Imagine, if you will, the final thoughts of the criminal wrestling a man (or woman) to the ground with the intent to rob them.They had a white cane, a guide dog . . . and a snub nose .44 special pushed into your gut, breathing flames as it puts your lights out.

There, that should get it going . . .

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GUMnNUTS 2 years, 2 months ago

Every criminal should be required to wear a bell.

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DillonBarnes 2 years, 2 months ago

What's the point of this story?

And in other news, this is still the same, we just want to rile up people again.

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