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Lawrence gun sales climb after Connecticut school shooting

The display case at Walmart, 3300 Iowa St., shows shortages of numerous kinds of gun ammo, including .223 caliber rounds, the same kind used in the recent school shooting.

The display case at Walmart, 3300 Iowa St., shows shortages of numerous kinds of gun ammo, including .223 caliber rounds, the same kind used in the recent school shooting.

December 20, 2012

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Amid calls for tighter laws on the sale of guns in the wake of last week's school killings in Connecticut, local gun stores are having trouble keeping firearms and ammunition in stock.

“Oh yeah, I’m selling them left and right,” said Dustin Pope, assistant manager for Jayhawk Pawn and Jewelry, 1804 West Sixth St.. “It’s the AR-15 style mostly. But we are looking to be out of everything.”

On Thursday afternoon, the Walmart at 3300 Iowa St. was out of stock of several kinds of ammunition, including .223 caliber rounds, the same kind used in last week's school shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. The Walmart at 550 Congressional Drive experienced similar shortages, according to its website.

Pope said he has never seen guns sell so fast and that customers were buying mostly assault rifle-style weapons because of fears of increased gun regulations.

“Everyone is worried about assault rifles right now, but after that everyone’s going to go for the high-cap hand guns – everything that holds more than 10 rounds,” he said.

On Wednesday, President Obama called for a ban on the sale of assault weapons as well as high capacity ammunition clips.

The gun sale spike is not just a local phenomenon. The Associated Press reports that numerous states, including Pennsylvania, Tennessee and Illinois, have experienced a huge surge in gun sales or requests for background checks because of new gun sales in recent days.

Comments

RoeDapple 1 year, 12 months ago

The Nobel Peace Prize recipient should be receiving recognition as "Top Salesman of Sporting Rifles of 2012".

Pal 1 year, 12 months ago

Obama is an inspiration to us all. He brings the best out in Americans. Like a laser beam he has focused Americans attention on issues that really matter.

No free phone for me. I'm getting a semi-automatic assault rifle to put in my gas guzzling 4-wheel drive diesel sucking truck. I may even hang it in the rear view window.

Thanks Obama. You are the greatest transforming president since Washington, Lincoln, and Reagan.

repaste 1 year, 12 months ago

That free phone program was begun 20 years ago, revised under Bush Jr. to include cell phones. Nothing to do with Obama. You going to bitch "he is going to take away our guns", or "he needs to take away our guns"? Your conflicted.

ksjayhawk74 1 year, 12 months ago

No, the free phone are not Obama's idea and they aren't paid for with tax dollars.

But thanks for playing...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

msezdsit 1 year, 12 months ago

If your going to be completely wrong about something at least don't be so obvious about it. You been a believin those robo emails again.

repaste 1 year, 12 months ago

Do a little research rv! The program begun under the Gipper, modified at end of Bush 2!

Mike Ford 1 year, 12 months ago

when people hide their racial fears in buying these kinds of guns their ignorance speaks volumes. I've lived in the south and rural areas having had a shotgun or rifle for 34 of my 42 years on this earth. I passed hunter's safety in 1981 and I'm a Democrat. Anyone who needs a capacity clip for animal hunting shouldn't own a gun.

KiferGhost 1 year, 12 months ago

Anybody who is such a bad shot they need a large magazine shouldn't have a gun.

riverdrifter 1 year, 12 months ago

Yep. I know many guys that shoot with single-shot rifles, both muzzle loader and center fire.

Phoghorn 1 year, 12 months ago

I saw nothing in the article that mentioned race....

KiferGhost 1 year, 12 months ago

Damn, why would a person belonging to a race of people virtually exterminated by the gun have any reason to bring race into it. Ah to be a dumb white America.

labmonkey 1 year, 12 months ago

Roe... don't forget Ms. Feinstein. She helped raise sales with her saber rattling. Out of curiosity... are there any actual gun stores left in Lawrence?

Astrunk 1 year, 12 months ago

Actually there are not very many in the city. One of the small dealers I talked to while writing the story said really the only places in town to buy guns were pawn shops or Walmart. I didn't find many when searching for them.

labmonkey 1 year, 12 months ago

I couldn't find any in Lawrence when I was calling around looking for a Ruger SR1911. I thought there used to be one on 23rd street on the east side of town.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 12 months ago

Is there an OK Corral where we can send all these idiots to exercise their maladaptive tendencies on each other, and leave the rest of us alone?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 12 months ago

I find the brutal murder of 20 kids and their teachers pretty bothersome. What was it to you? Exercise of 2nd amendment rights, or just entertainment?

Topple 1 year, 12 months ago

Wow, you really are observant. Got this world all figured out.

jehovah_bob 1 year, 12 months ago

I'm not racist. I'm definitely not right wing. Can't stand Fox or AM radio. Shooting is an entertaining hobby for me.

Jeff Rice 1 year, 12 months ago

Racist? Why would you say that? What does racism have to do with gun ownership? It would be like me branding you a "Tree-Hugging, Granola-Crunching Left Wing Hippie"

optimist 1 year, 12 months ago

How is ones exercising of their Constitutional rights racist? Is your exercising free speech racism? I simply don't get why you care how another exercise their rights if they aren’t affecting you directly. The Constitution is clear on the 2nd amendment, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”. If you don't like it there is a (Constitutionally prescribed) way to change it. You should get started right away…

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 12 months ago

The vast majority of guns owners are not part of any sort of well-regulated militia.

So what the second amendment really says is that if you want to own guns, join the national guard.

Phoghorn 1 year, 12 months ago

The militia is the people. "...the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms..."

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 12 months ago

What about the "well-regulated" part?

No need to answer-- you don't like that part, so you ignore it.

Phoghorn 1 year, 12 months ago

Thank you for helping me prove my point. In the 18th Century, "well-regulated" meant well-functioning. An example would be a well-regulated clock. The nearest modern term would be "well-trained". This term was not a reference to the militia being subject to Federal regulations.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 12 months ago

Even under your definition, there is nothing "well-regulated" about the current state of affairs. Quite the opposite. What we have is a firearm industry and its primary industry group, the NRA, defending their cash cow and doing whatever it takes to feed a violent nation with all the weapons that keep us from being anything but "well-regulated."

BorderRat 1 year, 12 months ago

In 2008 and 2010, the Supreme Court issued two landmark decisions concerning the Second Amendment. In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia.

Phoghorn 1 year, 12 months ago

You do realize that the KKK was one of the major proponents of gun control, don't you?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 12 months ago

Only for anyone who isn't a protestant white supremacist.

Phoghorn 1 year, 12 months ago

Once again, you prove my point for me. The KKK, in their ugly racist zeal, wanted to disarm African Americans. God forbid that a law-abiding African American be able to chase a bunch of crossburner clowns off his lawn.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 12 months ago

As to your very weak point-- seeking to disarm everyone but yourself is not the same as seeking gun control.

Liberty275 1 year, 12 months ago

I doubt the house will allow any more restrictions to be placed on firearms. I also expect the minority in the senate will filibuster. Obama can call for whatever he wants, but he isn't king.

At most, laws concerning background checks might be tweaked and trigger locks might be made mandatory accessories.

It seems like everything is becoming kneejerk reactions to one thing or another, and that never serves us well.

Pal 1 year, 12 months ago

It's not knee-jerking. Obama brings the best out of mankind.

A perfect example is the number of hateful, uncivil comments from Obama supporters above.

"racial fears"

"idiots"

"racist right wing"

Swell bunch of decent people.

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SnakeFist 1 year, 12 months ago

"I doubt the house will allow any more restrictions to be placed on firearms. I also expect the minority in the senate will filibuster."

Conservatives fight all change, even change for the better. That's why more and more Americans are turning away from them and their 1950s ideology.

Mike Ford 1 year, 12 months ago

observant they live in Eudora, Tongie, Mclouth, and Oskaloosa and they have bigotry just like you do against Native peoples trying to protect a sacred site. Don't be a hypocrite.

KiferGhost 1 year, 12 months ago

To an idiot maybe. To Native Americans all the land is sacred as is the things on it. That is obviously something hard for Americans to relate to.

moliemolie 1 year, 12 months ago

It is so sad that people think this way. What a sad commentary on our society.

More guns are not the answer, they are the problem. More guns mean more deaths by gun.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/index.html

Pal 1 year, 12 months ago

Guns are not forced on you like Obamacare has been.

It is so sad that people think the need government people to take care of them.

Conference of Mayors: Hunger and Homelessness Continue to Surge Under Obama

Thursday, 20 Dec 2012 01:50 PM

Across the United States, the number of hungry and homeless people is growing, and budget fights at the federal level are threatening the aid many need to survive, the U.S. Conference of Mayors said on Thursday. Amidst the holiday season of family feasts and corporate dinners, the mayors released a report that found requests for emergency food assistance rose in 21 out of the 25 cities it surveyed in 2012 and remained at the same level in three. More than half the cities said homelessness increased.

"This report is a stark reminder of the long-lasting impact the recession has had on many of our citizens," Greg Fischer, mayor of Louisville, Kentucky, said in a statement. "Families, who once lived in middle class homes, now find themselves without a roof over their heads, needing multiple social services for the first time in their lives."

The 25 cities are of varying size and wealth in all regions of the country. They included Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Los Angeles, Salt Lake City and Nashville, Tennessee.

Among those seeking emergency food, 51 percent were in families and 37 percent were employed. Nearly 1 in 6 - 17 percent - were elderly and 8.5 percent were homeless, according to the survey.

Nearly all of the cities reported a rise in the number of people seeking emergency food for the first time.

moliemolie 1 year, 12 months ago

I have no idea what your point is. You apparently think obamacare is bad but then you spend the rest of the post explaining why so many people desperately need it.

And obamacare was not forced on us. Prior to the 2008 election obama told us he was going to try to implement a national health plan. He then won in a landslide. You might not like it but you cannot say it was forced on the country.

beatrice 1 year, 12 months ago

True, guns aren't forced on people -- bullets are. Also, guns don't kill people, bullets do.

RoeDapple 1 year, 12 months ago

Funny. A neighbor of mine, (Democrat, of the Jewish faith, a 30 year practicing Psychologist) told me I am one of the most stable sane people he knows . . . He has purchased four guns since meeting me.

The other side of the coin . . . The analysis was free, not done at his office. Maybe since meeting me he feels the need to be armed!

Also just occurred to me . . . are most of the people he knows patients of his?

Ah, well, it's a good thing all you hot headed anti gun folks don't have 'em, there would be more shootings every day!

beatrice 1 year, 12 months ago

Who would confront an armed person and tell them they are unstable? You tell the armed person what he wants to hear.

dwiggy7 1 year, 12 months ago

I think he is pointing out the weaker round because it's sold out compared to .270 and 30-06. His point is that people are buying up this round due to fear it will be banned.

RoeDapple 1 year, 12 months ago

Say, you wouldn't be interested in buying the Golden Gate Bridge would you?

bad_dog 1 year, 12 months ago

Watching you sail down "de-nial" river is much more fun...

Bud Stagg 1 year, 12 months ago

Observant, watch this video. this is how it would happen if someone in the aurora movie theater had been allowed to carry.

Trigirl 1 year, 12 months ago

Right. That excuse again? Except that the Aurora theater was dark and full of smoke. But I'm sure someone could have easily taken the shooter out without harming any bystanders.

Phoghorn 1 year, 12 months ago

Well, it sure would not have been any worse that what DID transpire. The killer was obviously able to shoot in the dark and smoky theater, so I could trust a private citizen to do the same and take the killer out.

ebyrdstarr 1 year, 12 months ago

Except, of course, the shooter didn't care who he shot, so just spraying bullets through the dark, smoke-filled theater was sufficient for his purposes. Whereas a good guy would have wanted to be sure s/he only shot the bad guy. Reports from survivors inform us they couldn't often tell where the gunman was. So, no, it's not at all likely that a good guy would have been successful at hitting a specific target in that setting.

RoeDapple 1 year, 12 months ago

In 1973 Johnny Carson joked about a toilet paper shortage . . . so everybody ran to the store and bought it up, causing a month long toilet paper shortage!

moliemolie 1 year, 12 months ago

The numbers say you are wrong.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/australia-model-successful-gun-control-laws/story?id=18007055#.UNSGe-Q0V8E

I'll share one highlight.

"In the last 16 years, the risk of dying by gunshot in Australia has fallen by more than 50 percent."

kernal 1 year, 12 months ago

I don't rely on youtube.com for accurate research stats. If I did, it would be second only to Faux News for accuracy.

Phoghorn 1 year, 12 months ago

Well, there is nothing in the Constitution that gives Americans the right to French Kiss either...should we ban that?

Phoghorn 1 year, 12 months ago

I may disagree with you politically, but I sure can't fault your humor :-)

BorderRat 1 year, 12 months ago

Bea, It sure hurt when the swig of my afternoon soda pop came out my nose. Thanks for the chuckle.

oldvet 1 year, 12 months ago

Good idea... so we can also stop drunk drivers from killing people by banning gasoline!

Armored_One 1 year, 12 months ago

Nuclear deterrence always calms everyone down.

I can't help but wonder what the people that collaborated together and created the Constitution would say about the Second Amendment compared to today's society.

Think about it. That addendum to the Constitution was written before cartridge rounds were invented, and most certainly before modern weaponry was built.

A group of men, erring on the side of caution on basically all topics covered in the Constitution as they ratified it. It shouldn't be a leap of logic that they would consider erring on the side of caution again.

I do, however, find it absolutely amusing to watch all of this hypocracy. The vast majority of people have absolutely no qualms with restricting the freedom of speech for the KKK and listing it as hate speech, which can be construed as illegal, or even attempting to restrict the rights of the Phelps'. But Lord Almighty, we just MUST adhere to the exact letter of the Constitution when it comes to the Second Amendment. I guess the First one is flexible enough for the Second one as well.

Oh, and by the by, thanks to legislation such as the Freedom of Information Act, as well as numerous ones passed in the last 20 years regarding information on the Internet, the plans for modifying an existing semi-automatic firearm, be it a rifle like the Bushmaster or a handgun like the Glock .40, into a fully automatic weapon will be around forever. Just thought I would add a little bit of comfort to everyone's life.

KiferGhost 1 year, 12 months ago

The founders were well aware that the citizens needed to be educated as well. I'm sure if they could imagine where their experiment would lead to they would have never suggested breaking away from merry ol England.

optimist 1 year, 12 months ago

A firearm is a tool that is used for pleasure, competition, hunting, self-defense and one of many symbols of the freedom that we as Americans value, at least most for most of us. It is only a weapon when used against another person.

Millions of people own and use firearms every day and do so responsibly. Most gun crimes are committed by those already breaking the law and often times with stolen and/or illegally possessed firearms. Firearms are used by Americans with some frequency to protect themselves from violence and most often without firing a single shot.

Recent relevant Supreme Court decisions relevant to the issue of firearms bans: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment02/

Something being left out of the discussion is the story of the shooting that took place in an Oregon mall just prior to the tragedy in Connecticut. Unfortunately I couldn’t find a single major media outlet reporting what happened there and why a man armed with a similar style firearm was only able to take the lives of two innocent citizens rather than the 26 the sicko in Connecticut was able to take from their families. The shooter in Oregon was confronted by an armed citizen carrying a concealed firearm. Here is the story from a local outlet in Oregon: http://www.kgw.com/news/Clackamas-man-armed-confronts-mall-shooter-183593571.html .

This isn’t an issue of firearms, ammunition, magazine capacity. This is an issue of evil people doing evil things. If the firearm is removed from our society as the “weapon” of choice by those eager to bring harm to others there will be another “weapon” to take its place. I present as evidence this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010%E2%80%932011) . I generally avoid citing Wikipedia but it was the only source I could find that compiled so many of the incidents occurring over the last couple of years, in one place. These attacks have resulted in dozens of children killed by knives, hammers and other various “weapons”. This is a societal problem and most likely a mental health issue.

If we truly want to minimize these evil acts we need to figure out a way to help those with mental illness. If there is a balance to be struck it is not to deprive the vast majority of citizens of their constitutionally protected rights but rather to protect the rest of us from those that would do the rest of us harm.

bevy 1 year, 12 months ago

Wonder why the story about the CCH guy at the mall didn't make the national news?

moliemolie 1 year, 12 months ago

On the same day as the Newtown shooting a whack job in China attacked a school. He injured many but no one was killed. The difference? He did not have a gun.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/china-soul-searching-school-attack-article-1.1223442

We can both site specific incidents to prove our points but the gun control advocates have the overall numbers on their side. More guns make us less safe.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/index.html

Our children are much less safe if we have a gun in the house.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-carrying/index.html

And gun control can and has worked.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/australia-model-successful-gun-control-laws/story?id=18007055#.UNSGe-Q0V8E

beatrice 1 year, 12 months ago

You are far more likely to die by a firearm if you live in a home with a firearm than if you do not. http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full

KiferGhost 1 year, 12 months ago

An effective registration program for guns with a legimate purpose is hardly going to make us into criminals.

KiferGhost 1 year, 12 months ago

Yeah and that explains why countries with gun controls have lower rates of crime than the US.

labmonkey 1 year, 12 months ago

You mean like GB or Australia... the two most likely places in the Western World to be a victim of a violent crime?

otto 1 year, 12 months ago

Wonder what caliber Cain used to kill Abel? Maybe we should ban rocks and sticks. Hot Sale today, Get your sticks!

Peacemaker452 1 year, 12 months ago

BTW, that photo is the Wal-Mart on Iowa. Their ammo shelves almost always look like that. They never have much in stock.

CHEEZIT 1 year, 12 months ago

NRA says armed guards at all the schools. Why not skip that and just arm all the students which apparently has already started happening!!!

KiferGhost 1 year, 12 months ago

Kind of hard to believe in the countries of Europe, Australia, Japan, and others that with extreme gun control their governments haven't subjected them to all the things our nuts in this country fear. America is unique and the laugh stock of the world as we live in fear of things we deal out on the rest of the world and yet they manage. We are pathetic scared rabbits and need to have our big gun to look like Johnny Wayne (aka draft dodger).

Pal 1 year, 12 months ago

KiferGhost and observant make the point that Democrats/Liberals hate the NRA/Police.

Ghost...after Democrats "nuked" Japan killing 100's of thousands of innocent women and children, every other country of notice fell into place behind Democrats iron fist.

oh, and Marion Morrison was a self-described socialist.

KiferGhost 1 year, 12 months ago

Apparently you are clueless about my position.

Pal 1 year, 12 months ago

We are pathetic scared rabbits

lol....heh, heh, yes.....apparently. You types are precious. Not stop trying to sweet talk me. I'm spoken for.

KiferGhost 1 year, 12 months ago

And what Marion Morrison is irrelevant, he was a redneck-

“I believe in white supremacy, until blacks are educated to the point of responsibility. I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them, [the Indians] if that's what you're asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.

labmonkey 1 year, 12 months ago

Kifer...

Countries with the strictest gun control are the highest crime countries according to most studies. GB's and Australia's crime rates have skyrocketed since they banned guns, and Luxemburg has one of the highest murder rates in the western world. On the flip side, gun ownership has skyrocketed in the US over the last 20 years and violent crime has gone down. But keep drinking the kool-aide.

riverdrifter 1 year, 12 months ago

I only own 4 rifles, all of which are "old", most notably my 1962 Winchester Model 70 .280 Remington with an old Zeiss scope on it. Don't need no gun of the hand and UP a bunch of semi-automatic rifles for deer hunting. If you can't acquire yourself a decent rifle, sight it in with a good scope and mounts and then use it to tip a deer over at reasonable range with a single shot, then just go home and play video games. You are undeserving of the hunt.

Armored_One 1 year, 12 months ago

So why has biometrics for firearms been developed and been left moldering on a proverbial shelf for the last 20+ years? It was proven to work 99% of the time, and engaged to activate the firearm, for lack of a better descriptive, 100% of the time.

No fumbling for a key in teh dark to disengage a trigger lock and the firearm will only function while the biometrics are engaged properly, which means no one else could use said weapon. One for each parent, thus eliminating the argument that if only one person can use it, it becomes useless if that person is gone.

There are intelligent solutions. I'd ask why no one is willing to consider them, but it would be a waste of energy.

lunacydetector 1 year, 12 months ago

people fear obama will be our first dictator.

Budgets_Smudgets 1 year, 12 months ago

The US possesses more than half of the worlds hand/assault guns.

Wow. Sure makes us safe, doesn't it. Lets buy more.

Doug Fisher 1 year, 12 months ago

Judging by this article it seems like Lawrence has been invaded by lots of rednecks since I moved away. What a shame. I don't own a gun and really don't have any interest in them. You people realize this latest school massacre was allowed to happen because the boys Mom was a gun nut? Just saying....

Armored_One 1 year, 11 months ago

And when there was much less violence in video games, Dick Daring not withstanding, explain the gang violence that, at times, crippled several major U.S. cities...

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