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VP candidate Paul Ryan accepts ‘calling of my generation’

August 29, 2012

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Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan spoke Wednesday evening at the Republican National Convention.

Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan spoke Wednesday evening at the Republican National Convention.

— Seizing the campaign spotlight, vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan accepted "the calling of my generation" to help lead the country in tough times Wednesday night and told roaring Republican National Convention delegates and a prime time TV audience that Mitt Romney and he will make the difficult decisions needed to repair the nation's economy.

"After four years of getting the runaround, America needs a turnaround, and the man for the job is Governor Mitt Romney," the 42-year-old Wisconsin lawmaker declared in what amounted to a debut on the national stage. However, the nation's attention was divided: He spoke at a convention dogged by Tropical Storm Isaac, downgraded from a hurricane but still inflicting misery on millions along the nearby northern Gulf Coast.

"We will not duck the tough issues; we will lead," Ryan said.

His speech was part attack on Democratic President Barack Obama and part spirited testimonial to Romney, all leavened by a loving tribute to Ryan's own mother, Betty, 78, seated across the hall in a VIP box. "To this day, my mom is a role model," he said while she beamed and exchanged smiles with one of his children as delegates cheered their approval.

A generation younger than Romney, he emphasized their differences as well as their commitment to tackle the economy.

"There are songs on his iPod which I've heard on the campaign bus — and on many hotel elevators," he said to laughter in the hall.

As for his own favorites, he said Romney "actually urged me to play some of these songs at campaign rallies. I said, 'I hope it's not a deal breaker, Mitt. But my playlist starts with AC/DC and ends with Zeppelin."

Turning serious, he said of Obama and the Democrats: "They've run out of ideas. Their moment came and went. Fear and division is all they've got left."

To the cheers of the delegates, he pledged Republicans would save Medicare from looming bankruptcy, despite constant accusations from Democrats that the GOP approach would shred the program that provides health care to more than 30 million seniors.

"Our nation needs this debate. We want this debate. We will win this debate," Ryan declared. But he offered no details of the remedy Republicans would propose.

Romney, in a secondary role if only for a moment, accused Obama of backing "reckless defense cuts" amounting to $1 trillion. Addressing the American Legion in Indianapolis, he said, 'There are plenty of places to cut in a federal budget that now totals over $3 trillion. But defense is not one of them."

In Tampa, the Romney team scripted an economy-and-veterans-themed program and kept a wary eye on Isaac. The storm remained a threat to levees in the New Orleans area almost exactly seven years after the calamitous Hurricane Katrina.

Inside the convention hall, delegates cheered a parade of party leaders past, present and — possibly — future.

The presidents Bush, George H.W., elected in 1988, and his son, George W., winner in 2000 and 2004, were featured in an evocative video. Arizona Sen. John McCain, the party's 2008 nominee, spoke on his 76th birthday and said he wished he'd been there under different circumstances. And an array of ambitious younger elected officials preceded Ryan to the podium, Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky and John Thune of South Dakota among them.

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice praised the Republican ticket in a speech that made no overt mention of Obama. "Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will rebuild us at home and inspire us to lead abroad. They will provide an answer to the question, 'Where does America stand?'"

The congressman's speech skipped lightly over inconvenient facts.

He assailed the stimulus legislation that Congress passed at Obama's request in 2009 to help stabilize the economy but neglected to mention that he asked for some of the resulting funding, which eventually went to two Wisconsin energy conservation companies in his home state.

He also accused Obama of taking more than $700 billion from Medicare to help finance the president's signature health care law. But he didn't mention that a pair of tax and spending plans he authored as chairman of the House Budget Committee retained the cuts and put the money toward deficit reduction.

Ryan said he was accepting "the calling of my generation to give our children the America that was given to us."

He added, "The present administration has made its choices. And Mitt Romney and I have made ours: Before the math and the momentum overwhelm us all, we are going to solve this nation's economic problems.

"And I'm going to level with you: We don't have much time."

As he spoke a pair of electronic boards tallied the nation's growing national debt, approaching $16 trillion overall and more than $5 billion since the convention opened.

Ryan's vice presidential acceptance speech marked a prime-time national debut by a relatively young lawmaker lauded by fellow Republicans for his understanding of the complexities of the nation's budget.

Romney tapped Ryan this month as his running mate, a selection that cheered conservatives who have doubted the presidential candidate's own commitment to their cause.

If Ryan's selection was designed in part to appeal to conservatives, the convention was scripted to strengthen the ticket's appeals among women, Hispanics and others who prefer Obama over the Republicans, as well as veterans who supported McCain in 2008.

Romney delivers his own nationally televised acceptance speech Thursday night in the final act of his own convention. The political attention then shifts to the Democrats, who open their own convention on Tuesday to nominate Obama and Vice President Joe Biden for a second term.

Deep into a two-week stretch of national gatherings, the race for the White House is in a sort of political black hole where the day-to-day polls matter little if at all as voters sort through their impressions.

Despite the hundreds of millions of dollars spent on television commercials by the candidates, their parties and supporting groups, the race has appeared unusually close since Romney clinched his nomination last spring.

Only eight or so battleground states appear to be competitive, although Republicans say they hope to expand the campaign after Labor Day, particularly in industrial states struggling to recover from the worst economic recession since the Great Depression.

As chairman of the House Budget Committee, Ryan is the architect of a plan to curb long-term deficits by reducing taxes and making deep cuts in accounts ranging from farm programs to education. He also advocates saving billions from remaking Medicare and Medicaid, the government's health care programs for seniors and the poor.

The Medicare changes, in particular, are potentially incendiary in an election campaign. Democrats say that Romney, with his selection of Ryan, has accepted political ownership of a plan that would turn the program from one in which seniors' medical bills are automatically paid into one in which the government would give them checks to purchase coverage at costs that would require them to dip deeper into their pockets.

For all of the attack ads and inflammatory rhetoric, the two campaigns tiptoed carefully around the storm ravaging the Gulf Coast, vying to demonstrate concern for the victims without looking like they were seeking political gain.

Obama told an audience in Virginia he had spoken on the phone with governors and mayors of the affected states and cities while aboard Air Force One earlier in the day. Romney's aides let it be known he might visit the region once the storm had passed.

Romney's reference to $1 trillion in defense cuts was a 10-year figure that combined reductions already enacted by Congress and reductions scheduled to begin next January as a result of Congress' failure to reach agreement on a broad plan to cut deficits.

He did not say so in his speech, but most Republicans, including Ryan, voted for the first installment as well as the second.

And another convention speaker, Sen. Paul of Kentucky, pointedly disagreed with Romney on defense spending.

"Republicans must acknowledge that not every dollar spent on the military is necessary or well-spent, and Democrats must admit that domestic welfare and entitlements must be reformed," he said.

Romney's reference to 9/11 was glancing in a speech that accused Obama of unwise defense cuts. Romney noted the economy is the top issue in the race, but he said, "Our debates can change suddenly, with a ringing phone in the dead of night ... or a plume of smoke on a clear blue morning.

"The first job of government is to keep the American people safe," he said, pledging to do so.

Democrats spent part of their time working to tarnish the Republican brand. They pointed to an ABC News report that said Romney's campaign had held a reception in Tampa Tuesday night aboard a yacht flying the flag of the Cayman Islands.

Romney has been criticized for having investments there by Democrats who say the effect is to reduce his taxes.

In an appearance before University of Virginia students, Obama said he understood Republicans didn't have much nice to say about his tenure in office. He told his listeners the GOP hoped to disparage him so much that they would either vote for Romney or sit out the election.

Romney had already returned to Florida aboard his chartered jet when Senate Republican Mitch McConnell of Kentucky began the convention's daily battering of Obama.

"America is suffering through an economic calamity of truly historic dimensions," he said in excerpts released in advance of his convention appearance.

"Some are calling it the slowest recovery in our nation's entire 236-year history. To call this a recovery is an insult to recoveries." He spoke a few hours after the government reported economic growth for the second quarter was 1.7 percent, sluggish but marginally better than earlier estimated.


Associated Press writers Steve Peoples in Indianapolis, Julie Pace in Charlottesville, Va., Jim Kuhnhenn in Washington and Philip Elliott, Beth Fouhy and Tamara Lush in Tampa contributed to this story

Comments

Richard Heckler 2 years, 3 months ago

Ryan is the slick talker....

Republicans want a one party police state. No matter what it takes. ( Rt Wing Libertarian Neocon Fundamentalist Tea Party for Economic Terrorism.)

Vote out the republican party! Send them to the mountains of Afghanistan and Iraq.

The country needs the two parties that make sense.

Democratic party for the old school republicans and the Green Party for democrats

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

"After four years of getting the runaround, "

Given that you were one of the main leaders of that runaround, why should you be given even more power to screw everyone not in the 0.1%?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

No, I meant what I typed.

Regardless, with RyanRomney, the bottom 80% are totally screwed.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

We can quibble about the various percents all day, but the fact remains that RyanRomney are the candidates of plutocracy, nothing more, nothing less.

tbaker 2 years, 3 months ago

Save this post Bozo. Lets revisit the economic and job growth numbers in the Spring and count all the screwed people together.

There is so much idle capitol sitting on the sidelines right now, the first signal the business leaders get that tells them the federal government no longer considers them "the enemy" the US economy will come roaring back. Mark my words.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

They won't use any of that capital in a way that helps those who are currently hurting. They'll continue doing what they've already been doing-- shipping factories and jobs abroad, and making $billion with derivatives, private equity firms, and other "financial instruments," while cutting their taxes to nothing.

Richard Heckler 2 years, 3 months ago

Let's take a look at what could be in store under another repub admin. Sometimes they repeat themselves.

Criminal ENTITLEMENT - Bailing out The Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist aka home loan scandal sent the economy out the window costing taxpayers many many $$ trillions (Cost taxpayers $1.4 trillion), Plus millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm

Criminal ENTITLEMENT - Bailing out the Bush/Cheney Home Loan Wall Street Bank Fraud cost consumers $ trillions, millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. Exactly like the Reagan/Bush home loan scam. Déjà vu can we say. Yep seems to be a pattern. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

Criminal ENTITLEMENT - Bush/Cheney implied many financial institutions were at risk instead of only 3? One of the biggest lies perpetrated to American citizens. Where did this money go? Why were some banks forced to take bail out money? http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10/good_billions_after_bad_one_year

Other viewpoints This http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/13754/yes_gop_we_built_convention

This http://www.democracynow.org/2012/8/29/chaos_on_the_convention_floor_as

This http://www.thenation.com/article/168264/politics-99-percent

Liberty275 2 years, 3 months ago

It takes a poor excuse for an American to go three years blaming his leader's ineptitude on other people. Americans have heard all of Obama's excuses and they don't care about them. The buck stops somewhere and it isn't with former presidents..

Frederic Gutknecht IV 2 years, 3 months ago

Ridiculous. Holy CRAP! We didn't fall to ruin under someone fighting Republicans for sanity over four lousy YEARS, under conditions created by Republican spending and warmongering greed! You are insane if you believe that any president would have done better unless their Super "Pacts" had paid to bail them out. Does any Republican really believe that the Gingrich/Palin ticket was our salvation? That was a political game to lose culpability...not to gain control over their party's rape of the constitution and governmental disassembly. If the Republicans had won the last election, they would have had to put TOO MUCH of their money into fixing the horrors caused by their predecessors evil scams. Ridiculous.

jafs 2 years, 3 months ago

The tendency of the American public to ignore history, and prefer simple ideas to complex realities, is a big problem.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

"The Republican Party has set out at its 2012 convention in search of the Event Horizon of utter BS. It has sought to see precisely how many lies, evasions, elisions, and undigestible chunks of utter gobbledy(JW won't allow the end of this word) the political media can swallow before it finally gags twice and falls over dead, leaving the rest of America suckers all the same. "

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/rnc-tampa-night-one-12158408

tbaker 2 years, 3 months ago

Sounds like you can read a calendar Bozo and the event horizon coming in 69 days has you a little worried. Too bad your guy cannot run on his record of failure and has to resort to being a cry baby and blaming all the bad things he hasn’t done anything about on everybody else. I don’t know whats more pathetic; the lengths to which my President will go to dodge responsibility, or watching libs like you struggle with denial of this truth.

msezdsit 2 years, 3 months ago

You have to figure that the pubs have a pretty tall task at this years convention. They have a candidate that they don't even like. They have to pander to the right wing nut cases in the tea party. They have to cater to the Ron Paul libertarians, they have to cater to the "real conservatives" and they have to run on a platform that has failed for 30 years running. They have to denigrate to telling lie after lie because thats all they have to offer. They obstructed Obama at every step of the way while offering nothing. Ryans joke he calls a budget is soaked in snake oil and is funded by stealing from the poor to give to the rich. The fact is if they can lie their way into the white house and the houses and if the country can survive this, they will pretty much kill of the republican party because not only will things not get better but they will return to the glorious failures of the Bush Regimes and Ronald Duck's lost years.

woodscolt 2 years, 3 months ago

I am really looking forward to getting this economy turned around by people who know just like most of us in our homes, it is a disaster to spend more than you have.

Yep, and that policy is just exactly what Bush believed in and how fast you can forget.

ugottabekiddin 2 years, 3 months ago

Great comments above. Appreciated - Thank you. GET OUT AND VOTE FOLKS. Letting the Republicans take over will ruin this country. Changes and improvements are happening. It doesn't happen overnight but it IS happening and let's keep the momentum going. We have to save this planet and allowing the Republicans back in will be our demise for sure.

Alexander Smith 2 years, 3 months ago

Agreed.. VOTE. Whens the last time you saw GOP supporting a subject to save the environment so our kids and their kids will have a better planet to live in? Obama's push for alternative energy has been a big boost to the economy and it has proven to be profitable to local economies. Also, Obama supported high speed rail that would of taken thousands upon thousands of cars off the road each day stopping thousands of metric tons of pollution NOT going into the air. Romney and GOP fought this and wants to put thousands upons of metric tons of poisonous gases in the air. Think of your kids.. not your ego and the hear and now. DEMs=future, GOP= NOW not wait.

tbaker 2 years, 3 months ago

"Obama's push for alternative energy has been a big boost to the economy and it has proven to be profitable to local economies."

LMAO!

•SunPower, after receiving $1.5 billion from DOE, is reorganizing, cutting jobs. •First Solar, after receiving $1.46 billion from DOE, is reorganizing, cutting jobs. •Solyndra, after receiving $535 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection. •Ener1, after receiving $118.5 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection. •Evergreen Solar, after receiving millions of dollars from the state of Massachusetts, filed for bankruptcy protection. •SpectraWatt, backed by Intel and Goldman Sachs, filed for bankruptcy protection. •Beacon Power, after receiving $43 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection. •Abound Solar, after receiving $400 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection. •Amonix, after receiving $5.9 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection. •Babcock & Brown (an Australian company), after receiving $178 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection. •A123 Systems, after receiving $279 million from DOE, shipped some bad batteries and is barely operating. It cut jobs. •Solar Trust for America, after receiving a $2.1-billion loan guarantee from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection. •Nevada Geothermal, after receiving $98.5 million from DOE, warns of potential defaults in new SEC filings.

And this is only a partial list!

Epic green / demagogue fail.

Matthew Herbert 2 years, 3 months ago

in all seriousness, what exactly is the public willing to deal with in terms of the statute of limitations on use of "it's Bush's fault" excuse? In 2016, in a world with a two-term Barack Obama, can I expect Obama to answer the question, when asked about what his legacy will be, "My legacy would have been great, had it not been for George Bush".

woodscolt 2 years, 3 months ago

Well renaiss, thats the typical boring republican spin. Regardless who wins this election they will still be trying to overcome the carnage Bush left this country with. His first four years were awarded to him by the supreme court and his second term was awarded to him by manipulating the vote count and his scare tactics that if the dems won we would get hit hard and hit often by terrorists and only he could prevent this. This, even though the worst terrorist attack in US history occurred while only he could protect us. The scare tactics trumped the fact that he should have been tarred and feathered and run out of town for his failed fiscal policies and unconscionable unprecedented expansion of government but instead he was allowed to continue this run away train wreck disaster for four more years before we could even begin start turning it around. Next, the republican leaders gathered on inauguration day and made a pact to stonewall every thing Obama tried to do, at the expense of the American people, to insure they would win in 2012. I never heard the republicans complain about the national debt Bush was responsible for or fiscal policies that buried us in the worst economic downfall in over 80 years. He was losing 800,000 jobs a month. Never heard all the rhetoric about losing jobs on his watch. Now, the republicans have nothing at all to offer but returning to the Bush era policies and the only way they have to sell this is how well their efforts to obstruct Obama have been and their non stop lying about his presidency. "you didn't build that" is a perfect example of the lies the pubs spread about obama. They know if they just keep repeating them they will become so familiar to people that eventually they will believe them.That is a lot easier way to win an election when the only thing you have to offer is failed disastrous policies.

So, your comment has become the standard pigeon hole response the republicans have to offer and is instantly substituted instead of having to explain what went so wrong with the Bush era and why all they have too offer is more of the same.

Matthew Herbert 2 years, 3 months ago

Umm...you should know that I voted for Obama in 08 so my comment was not a "standard pigeonhole Republican response" . Rather it was from a disappointed Democrat.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

Disappointment in Obama is understandable. But any belief that Republicans offer a sane alternative (for anybody but the wealthy and the corporations they own) is pure delusion.

woodscolt 2 years, 3 months ago

Regardless of who you claim you voted for, it doesn't change anything about the carnage the Bush regime inflicted on the american people nor does it change the fact that you are just parroting republican spin they use so they don't have to defend the Bush regime nor confuse the fact that their policies now are same ones Bush crushed us with. If your a disappointed democrat and voted for Obama this would be very clear to you and would have trumped your comment before you even made it.

Trumbull 2 years, 3 months ago

in all seriousness, what exactly is the public willing to deal with in terms of the statute of limitations on use of "it's Bush's fault"

How long can the R's obstruct evrything President Obama tries to do and continue to claim that we are getting the "runaround"

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

We have plenty of money. We just waste in on pointless wars and give the wealthy too much of a free pass.

woodscolt 2 years, 3 months ago

I am amused at people like you who think the republicans are fiscally responsible. Never happened yet. Neither Bush's nor Reagan nor a Romney administration gets this. What they mean is lets spend the money but just on what we want. Unfunded wars, No limits on military spending and by all means tax cuts to the wealthy.

Funny, the last president to actually do, as you say, was President Clinton and Bush reversed that at the speed of light and were still buried in it.

jjinks 2 years, 3 months ago

Reading the above comments shows exactly what is wrong with the Democrats. Nothing but talking points that have no new ideas. Of course they voted for the stimulus that Obama guaranteed to take us out of the mess that we are in today. Every president has been given that reward when newly elected but it didn't work and the story doesn't bother to mention the other stimulus program that was voted down. Of course Ryan got some of the money for his own state. Should he have refused any money that was suppose to help as Obama guaranteed? Several states refused this money later on and that's a fact. If you cann't look at Obama and see what the problem is you are part of the problem. What has he done that has helped anyone for the better? He is the first president to come out and say from the beginning that America's best days are behind it and if elected will do everything in his power to prove it. He is an open book and and all you have to do is read it but you all refuse to do that or else you don't want the freedom that so many others in the world will risk their life to get. I'll never understand that about Democrats. You live in a country that gives your children every oportunity do what they want with their lives and you want to throw that away just for the sake of a free hand out that never comes from government. It's so sad for young people with all thier life ahead of them.

mom_of_three 2 years, 3 months ago

What has obama done? open your eyes and see what he has tried to do, if not do, if not for ryan and other repubs working against him. Half truths in ryan's speech.
This country gives my kids an opportunity and I can see romney not giving a damn

Trumbull 2 years, 3 months ago

The R's had enough power in the senate to filibuster the entire time if only one or two D's did not vote the party line. By 2010, the R's had the House and full filibuster power (41 senators).

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

"You live in a country that gives your children every oportunity do what they want with their lives"

Well, that's a tired myth, and the fact is that whatever opportunity average Americans do have would be severely diminished with the election of zombie liars like RyanRomney.

Liberty275 2 years, 3 months ago

This thread reeks of leftwing fear. It smells like a scared dog.

Not that I want to see the mormon win. It's like an episode of South Park and we are choosing between a giant feminine hygiene product and a sandwich filled with excrement.

As long as the left and the right stay at each others throats, I'll be happy. When idiots thieves and liars are in charge, our only salvation is in gridlock. Keep it locked up, and keep off of my lawn.

Mike Ford 2 years, 3 months ago

Mr. Ryan does not speak for my generation although we're the same age. He speaks for the spirit of the early 20th century robber barons in a socioeconomically stratified caste system. I wonder how much he likes Henry Ford and the idea of $5 a day for income. Bring all of the companies back to the US and pay them squat. Go back to the historic concentration of one percenters and company towns where workers never escape the company credit account. Those crooked mining companies in WV have a pretty good model....right Mr. Ryan?

tbaker 2 years, 3 months ago

So $5 a day (almost $120 in today's dollars) was a bad income back in 1908 when the first model T was built. Imagine getting to keep all of that money you earned back when the federal government took absolutely zero money out your "squat" paycheck. Did that really cause some evil socioeconomically stratified caste system, or did the people live pretty well on that kind of money? Do tell tusch. Do you have the first clue what kind of tiny profit margin WV coal mines have to work with? Why they have to shut down when the price of coal falls just a few cents? Can you comprehend that? The only thing crooked is your statist world view and under-developed reasoning skills.

tbaker 2 years, 3 months ago

Do you know why Obama is demanding Romney release his tax returns?

So he can show the Democrat Base what one looks like.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

They Love the Lies Paul Ryan Tells by John Nichols (who is a Wisconsin journalist who is very familiar with those lies.)

http://www.thenation.com/blog/169648/they-love-lies-paul-ryan-tells#

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

What lies are they're saying about RyanRomney? Please be specific.

Are you not concerned at all with the litany of lies that Ryan told last night?

http://www.thenation.com/blog/169648/they-love-lies-paul-ryan-tells#

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/rnc-tampa-night-one-12158408

jafs 2 years, 3 months ago

Obama spins and misrepresents things much more than I'd like.

I don't demand he "do something for me" - that's not my idea of what the President does.

He's better than the alternative, in my view, just as he was 4 years ago.

Centerville 2 years, 3 months ago

His speech was so refreshing. Saying things we're not supposed to think any more: like "sanctimonious central planners". Bingo!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

He's running for VP, not Chief of Empty Sloganeering and Prevarication.

pizzapete 2 years, 3 months ago

I thought Ryan did a great job last night. It was interesting to hear that his ipod "playlist starts with AC/DC and ends with Zeppelin." AC/DC is a favorite of mine, but I'd have been more impressed if he mentioned some American bands like Ryan Adams and Frank Zappa, but obviously he's not that cool. I'm still not sure I'd want to have a beer with either of these guys or that they even drink beer like us working class folk. I'm real interested to hear what Romney has to say tonight.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

"I thought Ryan did a great job last night."

But he was lying through his teeth half the time.

Liberty275 2 years, 3 months ago

You here lies, America here's the next VP. No more drunken clown.

MarcoPogo 2 years, 3 months ago

'I hope it's not a deal breaker, Mitt. But my playlist starts with AC/DC and ends with Zeppelin."

So his taste in music ends in the middle of the "L"s? You'd think he would get far enough into the alphabet to try some Tom Petty.

jhawkinsf 2 years, 3 months ago

iTunes does not recognize first and last names. John Lennon gets listed under "J". Led Zep. gets listed under "L". Zubin Mehta under "Z".

MarcoPogo 2 years, 3 months ago

And if their band name started with a 'Z', you might have a valid point.

jhawkinsf 2 years, 3 months ago

My playlist begins with AC/DC and ends with Zubin (Mehta) . If anyone can figure out a pattern from that, please let me know.

jayhawklawrence 2 years, 3 months ago

The Republican leadership exploited 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq. This decision has never been fully explained and I doubt if it ever will be but I think everyone believes that Cheney was the main instigator. They also exploited the wars in order to get anything they wanted no matter what it cost. If you look at the record, they are a bunch of phonies.

The Democrats took advantage of the overwhelming rejection of Bush and implemented a national health care program at a time when they had control of both houses. The timing could not have been worse, but they thought it was their only shot and they took it.

The first example seems criminal to me and the second is simply a political opportunity but very poor timing. The Democrats made a gamble and I think lost because they never predicted the damage that the obstructionist party was willing to do to the economy.

I have always admired Romney for his business skills and now I think we know more about his family. The fact that the Republican Party rejected Palin, Bachmann, Perry, Santorum, Gingrich and all the other wackos is proof that a majority of Republicans are thoughtful and rational people even though we seldom witness proof of this.

The more the right wing extremists open their mouths, the less I want to vote for them but I have always appreciated Romney's business sense.

tbaker 2 years, 3 months ago

Just because the many complete explainations for the Iraq war that are out there do not fit your world view, doesn't mean they don't exist just because you don't like them. Be in denial all you want. Its fun to watch for the rest of us who live in Realville.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

You were doing great until you got to the Romney kiss-up. Whatever reasonableness he may have had he flushed down the toilet to get this nomination.

And as far as his business sense, here's an excellent couple of pieces from Matt Taibbi about how much damage to jobs and communities the whole private equity business does.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/on-mitt-romney-bain-capital-and-private-equity-20120829

woodscolt 2 years, 3 months ago

"This decision has never been fully explained and I doubt if it ever will"....... jlawrence

Actually, a study of the history of the "Project for a new American Century", (which was essentially the Bush Administration waiting to steal an election) laid out the blame very extensively. They needed their "pearl harbor" and when they got it they acted instantaneously so as not to squander their opportunity. They believed in conducting several wars at the same time and they also believed they would need a "war president" to be able to sell their war hawk policies to the American people. They concluded that in order to have a "war president", it would take an event on the magnitude of a "pearl harbor" and 911 was their pearl harbor, a gift from god as far as they were concerned.

Cait McKnelly 2 years, 3 months ago

Ahh but was it a "gift"? Conspiracy theories abound.

woodscolt 2 years, 3 months ago

Well, certainly circumstantial evidence and the chronology of the bush presidency lends credence to the conspiracy theories. I mean, after all, when they wished for something so much and their wildest dreams were miraculously laid in their lap ot certainly looks suspicious.

When the pre bush administrations wish list turns into a historical record of the bush administration than their wishes were either amazingly prophetic or maybe conspired?

nativeson 2 years, 3 months ago

Talk about Republicans and Democrats is really becoming moot. Regardless of your political position, the math is beginning to get in the way of "spinning" anything of either side of the aisle.

It makes no sense to think about tax breaks for households over $250k when marginal rates are at some of the lowest levels in history. It also makes no sense to discuss entitlement programs as though they will be available in their current form within the next 10-20 years.

Ryan is discussing some important issues related to the federal budget. But, the solution is not going to be lower taxes that stimulate the economy. That playbook grew stale about 10 years ago.

Neither party has anything close to a solution. That is why at some point they will be forced to give and take their ideals in order to construct some type of way forward. Let's hope it is soon for all of us.

jayhawklawrence 2 years, 3 months ago

I think it was David Stockman that said we are going to need tax increases and spending cuts (both) and the will to endure a long slow climb out of the hole. The dramatic changes these goofball politicians keep making and the rediculous rhetoric are just making things worse. It is time for all of them to grow up but that is almost too much to hope for.

beatrice 2 years, 3 months ago

Yep, every four years the Republicans birth a new star of their party.

Palin / Ryan 2016.

It really is a shame Ryan had to give his speech while his pants were on fire.

jafs 2 years, 3 months ago

The frustrating thing is that people will continue to believe and spout these sorts of things even after they've been shown to be false.

Why?

Centerville 2 years, 3 months ago

”None of us have to settle for the best this administration offers— a dull, adventureless journey from one entitlement to the next, a government-planned life, a country where everything is free but us.” - we're still allowed to say stuff like this? Whaddayaknow?

cowboy 2 years, 3 months ago

This country is not a speedboat that can turn on a dime but a huge tanker that slowly makes a turn. It took W a good 7 years of irresponsible spending and deregulation to run it aground and it will take anyone an equal amount of time to turn it around. arguing anything else is naive.

Coming out of the worst depression since the big one is tough. Congress not cooperating makes it near impossible but still there jobs being created unlike the last years of W.

Outright lies and slogans do not make a recovery ,

cowboy 2 years, 3 months ago

Wish I was a paid shill but not , just an older wiser one that has been thru 3 recessions , tell my kids enjoy the ups but be ready and adjust for the downs

Liberty275 2 years, 3 months ago

Which recessions have you been though?

tbaker 2 years, 3 months ago

De-regulation caused the recession? Really? Have you heard of the Dodd-Frank law that piled-on the regulations? How about Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac (which Bush tried to shut down) Have your heard of TARP, Quantitative Easing, stimulus spending,huge budget deficits, credit default swaps, subprime mortgages - all of which de-valued the dollar? Do some homework and learn just exactly how much of this was caused by Bush.

It is pretty darn pathetic to blame the last President for the current President's failures. Sure things were tough when he got there, and people gave him a pass on things for a while becuase of it, but Obama has had plenty of time to put policies in place that could have helped fix things. They haven't. There is no clearer sign of this than the childish tantrums the left insists on having as they spastically stammer on about blaming Bush. People of all political stripes notice things like this. Acting like a cry baby is not something voters want to see in their president.

cowboy 2 years, 3 months ago

Your selective memory of the past three years seems to have missed the complete obstruction of any meaning legislation by the republican congress rated worst in history by the way. Quit your whining .

tbaker 2 years, 3 months ago

Selective Memory? Didn't the dems have all three houses for a while. Strawman fail.

jafs 2 years, 3 months ago

They had filibuster proof majorities for a small window of a couple of months here and a couple of months there over the first 2 years.

Trumbull 2 years, 3 months ago

tbaker, did you completely forget about the Republican obstructionism? Remember the debt ceiling crisis? I will never vote R again in my lifetime. Traitors and liars is what they are. They have done this country a great harm.

tbaker 2 years, 3 months ago

The debate over the debt ceiling was a "crisis?" Really? How about the $16 trillion naitonal debt? How about the fact the US government spends $4 billion in borrowed money every single day? I'd call those a crisis. The fact they DIDN'T shut down the government disappointed me. Obstructionism? Thank god there was gridlock. Maybe it slowed our advance to the cliff we are headed for, or does turning the US into Greece not bother you? Wise up.

woodscolt 2 years, 3 months ago

..." but Obama has had plenty of time to put policies in place that could have helped fix things....." tbak

Well this is all well and fine until you debunk your fantasy with a dose of reality . The obstructionist republican congress ,by order from the republicans party leaders, the republican party conspired to oppose everything Obama tried to do so they could then parrot your claim. They opposed every policy Obama presented them. Had the republicans allowed Obama to be president and honor his policies, then we could blame Obama for their success or failure. The only thing we know about them is they failed to get through the congress. And let me save you the trouble of your next standard parroted response that "Obama had a democratic congress and senate for two years and he could have passed anything he wanted" because he didn't have a filibuster proof majority and the republican policy of oppose anything Obama simply resorted to doing just that. The republicans have nothing to run on except failure . That is why they have been running on their 3 year plus multi-billion dollar smear and lie about Obama campaign. It is the unofficial "official" motto of this years rep. convention so far.

The Republicans entire campaign has been Obama has had enough time to fix the problems we inflicted on the American people and since he hasn't fixed them , we should be put back in power so we can resume their assault on America.

tbaker 2 years, 3 months ago

You call this a dose of reality? LMAO. The American people see this for what it is and no amount of spin will change that. Demagogue fail.

woodscolt 2 years, 3 months ago

Right and thats exactly what I posted.

Shane Garrett 2 years, 3 months ago

Not a speed boat? 1942-1945. Three years that saw America become the free world leader. But it took a country of people to do that. Today this country is so divided that it almost seems like 1862.

Gregory Newman 2 years, 3 months ago

Merrill & Woodscolt hit homeruns with check swings. I'm going to bunt with an infield park homerun.

Manufactories will never return because American workers will never accept employment where they are expected to immediately return to work an hour after just arriving at home. Most likely awakened in deep sleep after working for neither 12hrs nor will they live in a company dormitory and are demanded that they arrive within 30 minutes after being awakened.

All of this came about because of policies of Reagan and Clinton and the past 32 years of the house and senate. Obama had nothing to do with any of that.

In February 2011 Barack Obama joined Silicon Valley’s top luminaries for dinner in California, each guest was asked to come with a question for the president. But as Steven P. Jobs of Apple spoke, President Obama interrupted with an inquiry of his own: what would it take to make iPhones in the United States? Why can’t that work come home?

Mr. Jobs’s reply was clear. “Those jobs aren’t coming back. Apple’s success has benefitted the economy by empowering entrepreneurs and creating jobs at companies like cellular providers and businesses shipping Apple products so curing unemployment is not my job. We sell iPhones in over a hundred countries; we don’t have an obligation to solve America’s problems. Our only obligation is making the best product possible.”

So therefore, profits and efficiency have trumped patriotism and although Americans are among the most educated workers in the world, the nation has stopped training enough people in the mid-level skills that factories need.

The NAFTA/GATT trade agreement allowed other Nations to raise their standard of living equal to ours. Yet, because of low wages and no benefits and no environmental laws they are employed and are consuming the electronic toys just as well as us. Moreover, the job loses have relegated us to just consuming.

Our representatives in congress have sold us out to Wall Street lobbyist as a benefit for themselves of upward to $500,000 a month. That is why Boehner screams “don’t tax the rich” because he and the rest of Congress has become one of the new rich. Their status was championed by President Reagan when he stated. “The government is the problem not the solution, the marketplace must be set free.”

So if you are thinking of voting for Romney? I believe him when he says that he will be bringing jobs home. But the wages will be somewhere half way between your current wage and the 78 cents in Mexico, China, India and Vietnam with no environmental laws no health care and no paid vacation.

Obama will not be able to save us either he’s just a buffer until the market crashes for good.

Richard Heckler 2 years, 3 months ago

Corporate America decided to own the repub party in Tampa = bye bye party members

And it looks like this...

ALEC currently claims more than 250 corporations and special interest groups as private sector members. While the organization refuses to make a complete list of these private members available to the public, some known members include:

  • Wal-Mart
  • Exxon Mobil
  • the Corrections Corporation of America
  • AT&T
  • Pfizer Pharmaceuticals
  • Time Warner Cable
  • Comcast
  • Verizon
  • Phillip Morris International
  • Koch Industries
  • along with a host of right-wing think tanks and foundations.

ALEC is composed of nine task forces–(1) Public Safety and Elections, (2) Civil Justice, (3) Education, (4) Energy, Environment and Agriculture, (5) Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development, (6) Telecommunications and Information Technology, (7) Health and Human Services, (8) Tax and Fiscal Policy and (9) International Relations–each comprised of “Public Sector” members (legislators) and “Private Sector” members (corporations and interest groups).

Each of these task forces, which serve as the core of ALEC’s operations, generate model legislation that is then passed on to member lawmakers for introduction in their home assemblies. According to ALEC promotional material, each year member lawmakers introduce an average of 1,000 of these pieces of legislation nationwide, 17 percent of which are enacted. For 2009, ALEC claimed a total of 826 pieces of introduced legislation nationwide, 115 of which were passed into law–slightly below the average at 14 percent. ALEC does not offer its model legislation for public inspection.

ALEC refused to comment on any aspect of the material covered here.

More and more: http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/11603/publicopoly_exposed/

yourworstnightmare 2 years, 3 months ago

"But my playlist starts with AC/DC and ends with Zeppelin."

What a dolt. These are bands from Romney's generation. Ryan's generation would be REM, the Butthole Surfers, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Minutemen, etc.

Then again, Ryan is living in the past.

pizzapete 2 years, 3 months ago

I totally agree, I would think someone of his age and education would have better taste in music. AC/DC is cool, but don't you have to be on drugs or a total burn out to think Led Zepplin is a good band? Romney's going to look like an even bigger flake tonight if he decides to play that old, I'm cool, I'm just a regular guy, card.

yourworstnightmare 2 years, 3 months ago

Ryan certainly tried to distance himself from his ideological inspiration Ayn Rand.

His convention speech was filled with communitarian talk of connectedness and the being judged by how we treat the least among us.

Ayn Rand would have puked. Then again, Mitt might be rubbing off on Paul: doing and saying whatever is politically expedient at the time.

Ryan = fail/epic

Richard Heckler 2 years, 3 months ago

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Richard Heckler 2 years, 3 months ago

Paul Ryan and Insider Trading:

The Richomonder blog reported unusual stock trades made by Ryan after he’d been briefed with other members of Congress about the impending banking crisis on Sept. 18, 2008.

Then Talking Points Memo supposedly debunked the story (by checking in with someone from the Romney/Ryan campaign?).

Then Brad DeLong debunked the debunking. More updates on the Richmonder; in short, the Romney campaign lied.

beatrice 2 years, 3 months ago

Well, at least he didn't lie while reading from a teleprompter.

Oh ... wait ....

beatrice 2 years, 3 months ago

Hey, I saw Led Zeppelin in 1977. Now I have to vote for Ryan.

Palin / Ryan 2016.

Katara 2 years, 3 months ago

Ryan said he was accepting "the calling of my generation to give our children the America that was given to us."

Wow. Ryan has some pretty low standards for American children.

Richard Heckler 2 years, 3 months ago

Paul Ryan's convention speech last night was "an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies," says FOX commentator Sally Kohn.

headdoctor 2 years, 3 months ago

Normally you can't trust Fox News. This was just a case of Ryan's speech was so obviously twisted. Fox had no choice but to point it out. It gave them a brief moment to appear fair and balanced. If Romney isn't elected I am sure Ryan will be contracted by Fox for News Writing. Even they couldn't top the crap that was coming out of Ryan's mouth.

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