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Police respond to gunshots at former chief’s house

Incident treated as medical emergency

August 13, 2012, 11:22 p.m. Updated August 14, 2012, 5:47 p.m.

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Lawrence police early Thursday responded to the home of former Police Chief Ron Olin after dispatchers received a call saying he was having a reaction to medication and he was firing a gun.

According to an audio recording of police and dispatcher radio traffic by Journal-World reporting partner Mike Frizzell, who operates Operation 100 News and monitors overnight police activity in the area, officers were sent at 2:46 a.m. Thursday to the southwest Lawrence home owned by Olin and his wife, Sylvie.

After a dispatcher said a person with a gun had fired five shots, police in 12 cars were sent to the home, as well as an ambulance.

“A person at the residence was experiencing a medical emergency, which resulted in a firearm being discharged,” Police Chief Tarik Khatib said Monday.

Khatib said that because the incident was classified as a medical emergency, the report was not required to be publicly released. With medical emergencies, the police department is also restricted by health information privacy laws, he said.

Attempts to reach Olin by phone and at his home Monday were not successful.

The 911 call

According to the recording, at one point during the 19-minute incident, a police supervisor at the scene asked a dispatcher to provide a summary of what she knew.

“OK, we got a 911 hangup. I called it back. I got the female. She said he’s on medication having a reaction. She said he was delusional, and he was yelling Signal 14 (police code for officer in distress). While I was on the phone with her telling her that we are on the way, she said he was out of it because of some medication reaction,” the dispatcher said. “I did hear the gun go off a couple of times. She told me he was shooting and to hurry, and she did hang up.”

About 40 seconds later, a woman emerged from the home, and police said she was with officers, according to the conversation between the dispatcher and police.

The dispatcher soon made contact with Olin.

“I’ve got Ron on the phone, and he’s saying that his wife was just kidnapped,” the dispatcher said. ‘‘ … He’s telling me that two men just kidnapped his wife. He’s telling me he’s in the back bedroom, and he doesn’t have a weapon is what he’s saying.”

During part of the conversation, the dispatcher said Olin was worried someone would try to break his back window and he would get shot in the back if he left the house. The dispatcher also said Olin told her “the bad guy gave him a weapon.” Then she said: “He dropped the phone and told me a guy’s in the kitchen.”

Seconds later, an officer can be heard saying he’s inside the residence. Then in about a minute, the supervisor says officers are OK and indicates Olin is with them.

A Lawrence Memorial Hospital spokeswoman confirmed that Olin was brought to the hospital Thursday and that he was no longer a patient there on Monday.

Police response

Last Thursday morning, the police department’s website noted the incident as a medical emergency. It did not list a police report number, indicating a criminal report was not taken, and it contained no names.

Khatib on Monday did not identify the parties in the incident, but he did defend the department’s response to the incident. He said that several officers were sent to the area based on the initial information in the call and that police gathered facts as the incident progressed and came to a conclusion.

“It was treated in an above-board way,” he said. “There was no preferential treatment.”

Khatib said police did document the incident in a report as a medical emergency. He said generally that police do often investigate incidents in which guns are fired in the city, which can be a crime. But the chief said for it to be illegal, the person firing the gun must have intent to fire it. There could be other circumstances, such as a medical emergency or an accident, that lead to a gun being fired, he said.

“If a crime is committed, we document it. If there’s no crime, we document it as well,” Khatib said, adding the report would not be forwarded to prosecutors because it was determined to be a medical incident.

Olin, who grew up in Lawrence, became a Lawrence police officer in 1971. He progressed through the ranks and in 1987 was named the city’s police chief. He held that post until 2010, when he retired to become director of security and internal controls at Kansas Athletics Inc. He resigned his position at Kansas University in summer 2011 to offer his part-time services as a consultant. He has taught courses at KU and Haskell Indian Nations University, and has taught courses on terrorism and counterterrorism to law enforcement officers across the country.

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smitty 1 year, 7 months ago

Had a conversation with a neighbor of Olin''s today....... Seems no one has been present at the Olin house since the incident that scared the hell out of Lawrence on Aug 9th.(Bonus points for for anyone who can locate and cut and paste Frizzell's blog from the incident or the original JW story.

That med sure did have a long term medical reaction or was it the long term psychology of our ex-chief that is taking so long to treat?
Shame on Lawrence's shakers and movers.. There are plenty of indicators that Olin has been less than sane for years but the shakers and movers were more interested in Olin's CYA for their own secreted reasons.

The city manager's office and commission need to be held accountable for the long term damage done at the hands of Olin's actions as chief.

Olin must have his fire arms confiscated for our safety, medical CYA or not.

Chapter 21: Crimes And Punishments PART II.--PROHIBITED CONDUCT Article 42: Crimes Against The Public Safety Statutes:

(7) possession of any firearm by a person who is or has been a mentally ill person subject to involuntary commitment for care and treatment, as defined in K.S.A. 59-2946, and amendments thereto, or persons with an alcohol or substance abuse problem subject to involuntary commitment for care and treatment as defined in K.S.A. 59-29b46, and amendments thereto.


Here's the jerk around by the LPD and the way Olin is being treated:

involuntary commitment

Olin committed to voluntary treatment..

How are all the other neighbors feeling who are within gun shot of him when he returns home? Best infromation available says they are fearful and full of doubt about their safety.

BTW.....Where's UNIKU, who disappeared at the same time as Olin's bad guy melt down?

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kuzikanman 1 year, 7 months ago

so did anyone take his guns away. anyone else and we'd been in jail and lost our firearms.

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sunflowergal 1 year, 7 months ago

Speaking as an adult child of an Alzheimer's patient: It sounds like he is suffering from dementia. We don't always recoginize that they are already deep into the disease until a major incident happens. This is going to be a major problem for our society as our Baby Boomers age. We Must take precautions to protect the individual and others by changing attitudes and accepting the facts. Many things must change in the home. Doors should be alarmed so you know if they leave, guns must not be accessable at anytime and car keys have to be taken away and hidden. You do not know when they will have an episode that sends them into another realm, a world that only they see but are truly living at the moment and we have no control over or another memory they are re-living. It is agonizing, but maybe we were lucky, no one was hurt and this maybe the wake up call we need. It isn't about some sweet little lady playing tea with dead relatives. This can turn very dangerous quickly, but we must remember they aren't criminals either. It is Our responsibility to make sure they are in a safe environment, safe for them and us.

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smitty 1 year, 7 months ago

Compare the response times to the 40 seconds removal time from 12 responding LE units...

Harmon testified that Bordman arrived at the Sevier residence 5 minutes and 27 seconds after Mrs. Sevier dialed 911.

Phillips, Harmon said, arrived a minute and 36 seconds after Bordman, and Wheeler arrived a minute and 24 seconds after Phillips.

Harmon testified that 4 minutes and 21 seconds elapsed between the time Bordman arrived and the time an officer reported that shots had been fired.

Is this a change in policy for mentally ill/medical problems or preferential treatment?

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Carol Bowen 1 year, 8 months ago

I prefer to mind my own business on this one. I really do not like to read about someone's personal problems sensationalized.

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classclown 1 year, 8 months ago

"Ever heard the phrase about the coyotes watching the chicken coop?"

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No I have not. However, I have heard the one about the fox guarding the hen house.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 8 months ago

Never understood his 1 year high dollar job with KUAD. Was it intended to be only 1 year, if not why did he leave that soon? Was it a gift from Lew Perkins for prior favors? Was the hire part of the KU ticket investigation? Smitty's postings here may indicate that there is much more to learn about the Olin legacy!

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LeRoyMercer 1 year, 8 months ago

Two things should stand out to the citizens of Lawrence. One is that the basic elements of a crime were established, I.e. the discharge of a firearm within the city limits. Second is the Police Department took it upon themselves to determine no violation of law transpired, a decision typically left to the prosecutorial entity charged with that responsibility by statute.

One can only assume a coverup. It is certainly preferential treatment.

But then, this is commonplace without external oversight. Ever heard the phrase about the coyotes watching the chicken coop?

Without someone,I.e. the citizens, having review authority, you should expect continued coverups.

If you only knew!

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smitty 1 year, 8 months ago

...The department has not been without its criticisms. Allegations of racism were rampant in the early 1990s after the deaths of young American Indians. Olin reassigned the department's media spokesman, Chris Mulvenon, after Mulvenon refuted claims a serial killer was in town and wrote in a trade journal that the only thing serial about the deaths was "cereal malt beverage."..

...Although the department stresses community involvement, Olin said, "We are still in the business of order maintenance. Civility and decency is what we're all about, but not everyone is civil and not everyone is decent."...

...Olin teaches classes at Haskell Indian Nations University and Kansas University. He volunteers his time and is not paid for either position.

At Haskell, he teaches an introductory course about criminal justice. His team-taught class at KU is titled "Violence and Aggression in the Modern World."

Terrorism and hostage situations are subjects that intrigue the chief on an intellectual level. Research for the doctorate he completed at KU in 1983 focused in part on hostage behavior and performance under stress...

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JackMcKee 1 year, 8 months ago

This story, along with the ticket fixing, are really quite disturbing. I'm falling on the side of those calling for citizens review of the police department.

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Nikonman 1 year, 8 months ago

So, did anyone check the bullet holes and possible trajectory of the five shots? Have the neighbors checked their walls for the spent rounds?

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blindrabbit 1 year, 8 months ago

Lawrenceks: I'm sure the residents in his neighborhood are soothed by your comments! 12 police cars at 2:30 in the morning following gunfire, maybe around apartments south of 23rd and Oshdahl (never learned how to spell that)l, but not is his hood.

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Lawrenceks 1 year, 8 months ago

janetjaz, Are you an attorney? Didn’t think so! Do a search on Google and read some of the Supreme Court rulings! You will find there was no crime! Maybe next time do a little research before making statements like about!!

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Janet Olin 1 year, 8 months ago

I have heard nothing but good things about the new chief, but his whitewash of this incident using 'medical emergency' as a tool to avoid making information public is a travesty. Drug reaction or no, the ex-chief fired not one but 5 rounds in a residential neighborhood in direct violation of city code. How is it that a police report is not required (even though many officers were there), or a breathalyzer or some sort of citation, as anyone else would receive? It's so...Lawrence that select individuals skate by or under laws everyone else follows or faces consequences. Shouldn't people in city government, the DA's office or the news media be asking more about this?

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hipper_than_hip 1 year, 8 months ago

If you can buy a gun at Lawrence Pawn, AND pay the $200 tax stamp, then you can own anything that Olin owns.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 8 months ago

This incident aside, it apparently is fairly common knowledge that this individual has a rather healthy gun collection, including some that may not be legally owned by individuals. The federal gun laws are very specific as to what is legal, based on type, age of gun and ability to fire automatically. Access to many of these weapons is restricted to most individuals by lack of opprotunity to obtain, that would not be the case here based on his prior employment. Maybe there should be a effort to investigate especially based on the most recent scenario. Just playing it safe!

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hipper_than_hip 1 year, 8 months ago

14-407 DISCHARGING FIREARMS. No person shall discharge or fire off any firearms of any kind within this City. The provisions of this Section shall not apply however, to the discharge of firearms by officers of the law, when necessary in the discharge of their official duties, to the discharge of firearms in any licensed shooting gallery in this City, to any officer or enlisted man of the Kansas National Guard while in the discharge of his or her duty, or to any person using such firearm to lawfully defend his or her person, property or dwelling. (Code 1979, 14-409; Ord. 5516, Ord. 8021)

At last nights CC meeting, the City approved a suspension of the enforcement of City Code Section 14-407, prohibiting the discharge of firearms within the city, for a “shotgun” start at the Lawrence Police Foundation golf tournament on Thursday, August 23, 2012, at Alvamar Orchards Golf Course.

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smitty 1 year, 8 months ago

Nothing on record to show a gun incident ....thus that data we get from the LPD on shootings as was presented last week....invalid data.....can't be believed....skewed data..LPD BAU.

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hedshrinker 1 year, 8 months ago

Bert Nash provides trained mental health staff who are on call 24-7 to provide threat screenings at LMH ER (harm to self or others) and assist in treatment recommendations. Unfortunately, if patients require inpatient observation and treatment they have to be transported elsewhere to inpatient facilities which are stretched to the max (recently there was nothing with open beds in Topeka and my person had to go to Missouri). LMH has made a makeshift attempt to have a private mental health area in the ER, but it is not adequate to the needs in this community. As a mental health provider in this community for several decades I know the need for more comprehensive resources but there is not $$$$ or public will until there's some high-profile incident. Routine people get shipped off to State or private facilities at a distance and coordination with local providers who carry the day to day burden are typically non-existent or perfunctory. It continues to be an embarrassment that a progressive community like Lawrence doesn't have a better full continuum of mental health services available.

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pilch 1 year, 8 months ago

The US Army reserve center, at 21st and Iowa, did have a firing range which hasn't been used for years because of problems with lead residue. It was decontaminated years ago and hasn't been used since.

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Lawrenceks 1 year, 8 months ago

It is not illegal to discharge a firearm in your own home. I know of several people in west Lawrence who have indoor firing ranges. There are also firearms ranges at the 21st and Iowa army reserve, the community building in 100 Blk of West 11th Street and the military science building on the KU campus. Plus soon a firearms range at the new Lawrence Police Department they are building. All in the City of Lawrence!

If it was a reaction to meds there is no crime there for making it a medical emergency. Federal Hippa rules fall into place meaning you will not get any report information about the incident.

Some of the comments on here crack me up. Makes one wonder where some of these people went to school at. Some real rocket scientists on here!

It is nice that the Lawrence Journal World has violated the Federal Hippa Law, plus printing information about something they don’t know is in fact true. Nice!

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meggers 1 year, 8 months ago

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I agree that most citizens probably wouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt in a case like this.

If it was truly a medication reaction, I would guess Ambien. That and similar drugs have been known to cause severe 'sleepwalking' occurrences.

Either way, I believe the public should receive an explanation from Mr. Olin. The folks who provided his medical care are bound by HIPAA, but HE can share information if he chooses. If it was truly a medical problem, it would probably be in his best interest to explain that to the public.

It would be different if he had been hospitalized for psychiatric treatment. Since he wasn't, silence on his part only implies preferential treatment by the LPD.

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thebcman 1 year, 8 months ago

Personally, I would like to thank and congratulate Mr. Olin for inspiring one the wildest, most bizarre stories I have read in quite a while. Comments a hoot, as well. Well played, sir .. Well played.

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kansasredlegs 1 year, 8 months ago

12 police cars on a midnight shift responded. No better proof that we do not need more officers added to the budget.

Also, since Olin utilized so many city resources, does this mean he'll be declared a "nuisance bar" and have his gun "license" revoked? If not, will he receive a bill to repay the taxpayers for the waste of tax dollars while the rest of the community went unprotected while the entire department was at his house.

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Crazy_Larry 1 year, 8 months ago

It's a Big Club, and we ain't in it. Can we all agree that its time for the Big Club to be dismantled? No justice, no peace!

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Food_for_Thought 1 year, 8 months ago

It's funny how a rumor mill like LJW's regular bloggers can take a snippet of information and spin it into a wild story for which they have no supporting information. You guys are just as silly as the scandalous and drama-filled sleaze rags like the National Enquirer. Spin away, rumor mill! Give your lives some form of purpose!

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ironhead80 1 year, 8 months ago

Well, the former head of the GASTOPO!!, finally, cracked!!!!!!!!!!!

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Isabelle 1 year, 8 months ago

Gosh, I hope all involved are ok- anyone ever think to ask this?

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Steven Gaudreau 1 year, 8 months ago

Ok, maybe it wont get removed if i ask this way: Was alcohol involved? BTW, I call b.s. on my last two comments being removed. My comments violated no rules.

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Keith Richards 1 year, 8 months ago

Just show more of the good ole boys club here in Lawrence.

Olin was In charge of a police department that had officers canceling speeding tickets in exchange for basketball tickets. The tickets were coming from KU employees who had obtained them illegally. Olin was buddies with Perkins (who had his own issues) and then subsequently hired by KU as director of security. Too bad he never noticed his officers with good seats. Now the dude has gone off the deep end discharging his weapon in the middle of Lawrence.

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Patricia Davis 1 year, 8 months ago

This incident reveals so much about our times. When will we ever learn that the coverup is usually worse than the crime? What ever caused Olin's "medical emergency" needs more public exposure because his behavior put the public at great risk.

On the other hand, I think this incident shows that a community of this size needs the capability for mental health treatment at LMH.This is an ongoing conversation. LMH does not want the financial drag of mental health services. Many people in Olin's situation would have been put in jail regardless of the "medical emergency" they had experienced before/during the commission of a crime.

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oldbaldguy 1 year, 8 months ago

A civilian would have left from the scene in cuffs and more than likely arrested and jailed awaiting charges. Whatever caused the situation would have been sorted out in court. I am not advocating this for Mr. Olin, I just know from experience this is what normally happens. It would be great if a medical emergency was taken in to account before the legal system starts to grind.

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JackMcKee 1 year, 8 months ago

3001 Topeka Lane is in the city limits so why was Olin shooting in the first place? Assuming that piece of gossip is true.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 1 year, 8 months ago

Was it one of his fully automatic machine guns?

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Randall Barnes 1 year, 8 months ago

and now the rest of the story. olin was outside shooting. he then had seizures and left his rifle on the sidewalk. now with that in mind his drivers licence under kansas law should be suspended for 6 months.yes i was listening to the scanner.

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DillonBarnes 1 year, 8 months ago

The assumptions people make are amazing.

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smitty 1 year, 8 months ago

JW, that conceal carry advertisement below the post is sick considering the situation.

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Alceste 1 year, 8 months ago

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=906 is a website to listen. Pay for premium membership and you can listen to the archive of the actuall 911 call.

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Shane Garrett 1 year, 8 months ago

Wow, must have been a wild night for LPD.

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Alceste 1 year, 8 months ago

What "medication" causes someone to pick up a hand cannon and blast away five times? If someone using that "medication" blasts away five times and one or more of the five blasts hits a person does the situation remain a "medical emergecy"?

Was the guy who went into that Batman movie experiencing a "medical emergency"?

Again what "medication" has a side affect that causes a person to pick up a hand cannon and blast away?

Wasn't there some Whitehouse official who perpetrated a hit and run on two cars (hitting the same car twice at that) and got away with it because there was found to be Ambien in his blood? Ah....yes.....the Secretary of Commerce. The Ambien had nothing to do with it. It was a seizure......Yeah....that's it.....if you wield enough power and influence, you can turn a bender into a "medical emergency". In the Secretary's situation, he went even further and got it called a seizure. Perhaps ex chief Olin was too was experiencing a "seizure".

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/07/ex-commerce-secretary-bryson-tested-positive-for-ambien.html

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smitty 1 year, 8 months ago

check out the 9th blog...

http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/overnight-wrap-up/

The second disturbance was reported just after 2:45 a.m., in the area of Clinton Parkway and Lawrence Avenue. Initially the incident was only a 911 hangup call, when dispatchers called the number back they heard what they believed to possibly be a domestic disturbance. One of the involved people made comments regarding gunshots being fired and then mentioned a possible negative reaction to medication. After about 20 minutes, Officers, with the help of dispatchers, were able to talk both of the involved individuals out of the house. Officers did report recovering a firearm at the scene. One person was transported by Medics to LMH for evaluation. No one was reported to have been shot and there was no information regarding whether or not Police found damage from shots being fired inside the address. More than 10 officers were involved on the incident.

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Carrie Coffey 1 year, 8 months ago

CAIT48, I totally agree! I would figure something else out other than calling LPD because of there unthinkable swift thinking that is hardly in the right for the victim. I grew up with Gregg Sevier and his family. To this day I still enjoy his family, and I wish things would of went a different route that day in the hallway of the Sevier home. I am sure they have had some training but just reading other postings and articles it still sounds like more training is needed. As for this man, it sounds like a bunch of cover up to make it sound like it is ALL ok and in rationale it sounds like he needs some help. Sad situation, wonder where those bullets landed?

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Steven Gaudreau 1 year, 8 months ago

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somedude20 1 year, 8 months ago

I say-a, I say-a that-a this smells more fishy than a house of ill repute in the desert heat....

So is life, some people carry one of dem fancy black or platinum credit cards while the rest just have plain old plastic. Big fish, little pond

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Milton Bland 1 year, 8 months ago

Hate to rush to judgment, but something is really wrong here! Thankfully no one was injured.

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Cait McKnelly 1 year, 8 months ago

I have teenage grandchildren that live in Lawrence with my daughter, their mother. Adolescence can be a really crazy time in a kid's life and the chance ALWAYS exists that one can go suicidal, even if it's over something as stupid as not getting a prom date. My daughter made the decision a very long time ago that if such a situation occurred, 911 would be the LAST thing she would call. No matter what it took, she would get her kid into a car and take them to Kansas City. Why? Because, flat out, she wants to end up with a living breathing child and not a dead one. That's about as sad as it gets.

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kernal 1 year, 8 months ago

There are medications for many issues, physical as well as psychological, that need to be taken off the market, but with the pharmaceutical companies paying millions to lobbiests in Washington, D.C. we're pretty much at their mercy. Also, physicians need to make sure they explain all the contraindications of the medication to the patient and that the patient understands. Some of those side effects can sneak up on you in a heartbeat and you don't even realize they've got a hold of you until you have a physical reaction or make a complete ass of yourself. Hope Olin will be okay.

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Barclay 1 year, 8 months ago

Surely someone with some authority in city government is going to call for a second look at this. With so many creditability issues floating around the LPD I suggest a second look. Something else to seriously consider- we may need an outsider to come in and run the LPD. It appears personal relationships are clouding sound judgement. A new police facility won't repair poor leadership.

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labernat 1 year, 8 months ago

"After a dispatcher said a person with a gun had fired five shots, police in 12 cars were sent to the home, as well as an ambulance."

Interesting. When shots were fired near my home, it took five 911 calls before a deputy would even respond. I guess it really does matter who you are!

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cheeseburger 1 year, 8 months ago

While this incident did have elements of a medical emergency, Chief Khatib's rush to classify it solely as such for the purposes of being able to restrict information dissemination on this case involving his friend is particularly disturbing. Khatib had previously said he wanted transparency for the department, and the handling of this case fails that test.

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irvan moore 1 year, 8 months ago

i don't have a problem with olin but i truly hope they pull his carry permit, if an episode such as the above happened in public it could be tragic

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Number_1_Grandma 1 year, 8 months ago

Police procedure say Olin should have been 'handcuffed' and taken to the hospital. Was police procedure followed?

Citizen review board is needed so badly in this town, it isn't even funny!

Commissioners and city manager: Please get on board now! What more has to happen in this town before you will open your eyes to preferential treatment by police?

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cowboy 1 year, 8 months ago

kudos to the officers who diffused the situation safely however the disposition leaves a number of questions. Were all of his firearms confiscated and due to the classification of med emergency did that prevent law enforcement from taking the firearms ? The residents of Topeka Lane deserve to know whether this situation is addressed and the secrecy of Khatib does not serve the citizens but only Olin.

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nate cleveland 1 year, 8 months ago

If this would have been an average citizen they would have been locked up immediately. Why is it police or former police get special treatment? I dont understand this at all. He shouldve been detained at the least. If he wasnt taken to jail why was he not taken to the hospital?

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bballwizard 1 year, 8 months ago

I live in the neighborhood and I dont car if its the former President. He is shooting a gun randomly and that could have killed someone. His guns need to be confiscated immediately until they figure out what is his issue. He Certainly does not need a gun. OMG if anyone else would have been shooting a gun randomly there would be some action taken.

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Bassetlover 1 year, 8 months ago

Sadly, we have now seen the adverse impact the wrong meds can have on someone's life twice in just the past ten days. We wish the Chief all the best as he recovers. To all the haters out there, know that this could happen to any of us.

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grammaddy 1 year, 8 months ago

Too bad Greg Sevier wasn't treated with as much compassion.He only had a knife.

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softsun 1 year, 8 months ago

Olin is a GREAT person and will figure out what he needs and get those needs met. Who among us can cast the first stone? Stand down. Give him the time and space he deserves like any one of us. He has been there for so many. Give him a turn. He earned it.

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cowboy 1 year, 8 months ago

Danger to self or others would dictate a formal evaluation regardless of the cause of the illness / incident.

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nondescript 1 year, 8 months ago

"...police do often investigate incidents in which guns are fired in the city, which can be a crime. But the chief said for it to be illegal, the person firing the gun must have intent to fire it. There could be other circumstances, such as a medical emergency or an accident, that lead to a gun being fired, he said."

I'll make sure that if I ever fire a gun off in town that it will be because of both an "accident" and " a medical emergency". However, since I don't live at Chief Olin's address, will the cops believe me? No. Will I live through the incident?...

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Keith Richards 1 year, 8 months ago

“It was treated in an above-board way,” he said. “There was no preferential treatment.”

I have been reading this paper long enough to know there was DEFINITELY some preferential treatment in this case. Even if this medical emergency was caused by legal drugs or even some psychosis, Olin was treated much different than any other citizen of Lawrence would be treated. Most would have been tazed, handcuffed, detained and then taken to the hospital for evaluation.

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oneeye_wilbur 1 year, 8 months ago

The. last paragraph reads like an obit. It has nothing to do with shooting a gun and having a medical emergency. Yellow journalism.

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Jayhawker07 1 year, 8 months ago

Bizarre?

To say the least. Blasting a gun off randomly at 3am. is understandable? For what? They did not detain the individual? Breathalizer? Blood test? What the heck? I am sure most of the folks here in town would have been arrested and checked out. What makes Olin any different? Gun owners have the right to shoot there guns in the city for what reason? Did he have more tickets for this seasons games? If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, yada yada yada and Blah, Blah, Blah.................

What kind of gun was he shooting? Details please. Who was the woman, the witness? What were her statements? What is his address so we know where not to be at 3am? Not a safe place to raise kids for sure. "Oh son he is just having one of those days, come on inside and play with your toys in the (shelter) basement".

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deec 1 year, 8 months ago

Good thing he wasn't suicidal with a knife or a middle-aged factory worker who refused medical care. He'd be dead now.

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oneeye_wilbur 1 year, 8 months ago

A. "fixture". In the department. Makes itbsound like he was shelving or a light fixture. The J W does some not so professional wroting Let's see if when Dolph dies he is referred to as a fixture. I bet not.

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Jean Robart 1 year, 8 months ago

With medical emergencies, police are not allowed to release details due to privacy laws, then they-or somebody else-did indeed release lots of details. Why were those details printed in the paper? What about Mr Olin's privacy rights and those of his wife? does nobody care about that?

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FormerCentralKansan 1 year, 8 months ago

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