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Brownback says Republican voters made ‘clear statement’ in support of conservatives during primary

August 10, 2012

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— Gov. Sam Brownback said Friday that Republican voters made a "clear statement" in support of conservative candidates during the GOP primary.

In a brief comment to reporters, Brownback said when Republicans where given the choice between a conservative and a moderate-to-liberal candidate, they picked the conservative.

"I think that is what you had, is the market functioned on Tuesday," he said.

Eight incumbent moderate Republican senators were defeated by conservative challengers backed by Brownback, the Kansas Chamber of Commerce, the billionaire Koch brothers and Kansans for Life.

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Keith 2 years, 2 months ago

"I think that is what you had, is the market functioned on Tuesday," he said.

Did he buy the legislature he wanted?

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

Will he acknowledge their buyers' remorse after state government grinds to a halt in a couple of years, causing large increases in property and sales taxes to support desperate local governments trying to pick up the slack?

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KS 2 years, 2 months ago

bozo: You still have not learned. Where do you think all of this money is supposed to come from? Before you just pop off and blast me personally, think about it and tell me just where do you think the money for all of the social programs is supposed to come from? .

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

WTF are you talking about? It comes from taxes. But the wealthy in Kansas have just been relieved of much of that obligation, meaning that burden will now be shifted to the middle and working classes.

IOW-- class warfare.

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tomatogrower 2 years, 2 months ago

KS, do you consider highways a social program?

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JayhawkFan1985 2 years, 2 months ago

The only clear statement that 14% can make is, "yes, we are as dumb as you think."

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cowboy 2 years, 2 months ago

the most astute analysis of the election season...."heblowsalot"

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irvan moore 2 years, 2 months ago

how does he explain the los of tlg? she was one of his chosen ones

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Katara 2 years, 2 months ago

Don't forget Rep. Otto. He was voted out too.

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Liberty275 2 years, 2 months ago

This promises to be entertaining.

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elkwc36 2 years, 2 months ago

Nice you posted a picture that describes Obama and his administration. Although I feel the dog has more common sense and could do a better job than Obama and his crew. Oh their intent was to destroy the USA as we knew it. Guess they are being successful.

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Orwell 2 years, 2 months ago

This witticism ranks right up there with Pee-Wee Herman: "I know you are, but what am I?"

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blindrabbit 2 years, 2 months ago

"God Bless Us All, Everyone" as Tiny Tim Said in the Chrismas Carol by C. Dickens. A bit on tongue in cheek on my part!

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

Kinda like a cancer diagnosis-- you may not like it, but there it is.

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KS 2 years, 2 months ago

bozo: That is probably one of the most intelligent remarks that I have seen you write. Good job! Maybe there is some hope?

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

So you're a fan of cancer. That's probably one of most honest remarks you've ever made.

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chootspa 2 years, 2 months ago

Well good for your hometown. I'm sure they're all real proud. Turnout was low in this end of the state, and Kobach claims it was 23% for the state overall. Hardly a mandate, but I guess Kansas deserves to wonder why they have a bullet hole in their foot for a while.

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KS 2 years, 2 months ago

Primary's always have a light turnout.

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jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

That's why you can't claim the results of them indicate very much about most voters in KS.

Except of course that they don't care enough to vote in them, or feel it doesn't matter, etc.

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jhawkinsf 2 years, 2 months ago

Yet you want things put on the ballot here when, from past experience, very low turnout should be expected.

How much would such an election cost?

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jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

Probably a lot less than $37.5 million.

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headdoctor 2 years, 2 months ago

I wouldn't think a state wide approval rating of 35 or 36 % would really be a feather in his cap. Of course if the voters don't vote in the general election his blowing may be valid by default.

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question4u 2 years, 2 months ago

What is it that these "conservatives" are supposed to be conserving?

Slashing revenues and expenses is not conservative; it's reductive. Creating a faction within the Republican party isn't conservative; it's divisive. Pushing an "experiment" that is projected to create a multi-billion-dollar defict in five years isn't conservative; it's rash, or if you prefer Brownback's spin, it's "bold".

What exactly is conservative about anything in the Brownback agenda? Reductive, divisive and rash/"bold" are not equivalent to conservative. Most dictionaries define conservative as "marked by moderation or caution". How can your actions be marked by moderation when they consist of purging the party of moderates? Historically, that's been the job of radicals. Radicals who want to turn back the clock are reactionaries.

So, congratulations to the radical, reactionary masses of Kansas. You can now take credit for what's coming. Sam will tell you that you'll like it, so, of course, you will.

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verity 2 years, 2 months ago

I've been trying to say the same thing. These people are not conservatives, they are reactionary, but having packaged themselves as conservatives, many people have voted for them.

It's all in their success in redefining a word.

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situveux1 2 years, 2 months ago

AP said moderates outspent conservatives 3 to 1.

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JayhawkFan1985 2 years, 2 months ago

Do you make this stuff up? That wasn't reported. The Koch brothers and their ilk paid much more than the teachers unions did. You must watch fox news/entertainment tv.

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situveux1 2 years, 2 months ago

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_KANSAS_LEGISLATURE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

"The targeted moderate incumbents outspent their conservative challengers, often by margins of 3-to-1 or more and received financial support from the state's largest teachers' union and labor groups normally aligned with Democrats."

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chootspa 2 years, 2 months ago

That's the money spent by campaigns directly. The Chamber of Commerce PAC spent gobs of money on conservatives, which was, in fact, the rest of the paragraph you were copying and pasting from. Corporations are people, my friend.

Yet the chamber's activities stood out in Senate races because its PAC's spending far exceeded the spending of other groups in the final days before the primary.

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JayhawkFan1985 2 years, 2 months ago

Even this article talks about how much additional money was spent by the KS chamber and the Koch brothers. I suppose what you said is true but only to the extent of what precisely you said. The truth is the GOP machine is outspending democrats even in KS.

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elkwc36 2 years, 2 months ago

I know for a fact I received 3 to 1 mailers and robo calls supporting Morris that I did Mr Powell. I received 3-4 mailers total supporting Mr Powell and two phone calls from a live person. I was throwing more of the mailers supporting Mr Morris away last eve. I would say I received 12-15 not to mention 5-6 robo calls but not one live human to answer questions and talk about issues and his goals. Mr Morris lost not because he was a moderate but because he was unresponsive and if you didn't have the correct last name, a large supporter who had bought him off or a large union he wouldn't answer emails or phone calls from you. As one Democrat told me several years ago he made an agreement with the Dem party that in return for his votes on major bills they wouldn't back a candidate to run against him. It had to be a Republican that finally kicked him out. Now I'm hearing he is talking about a write in. I'm not sure if that is rumor or has feet yet. Then when he formed a PAC in conjunction with the unions that showed many voters his true leanings. In my opinion he should register as a Democrat. I have many close friends who are. But they register that way. They don't register as a Repub just for political gain. Be proud of what you are.

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KS 2 years, 2 months ago

If you want to learn something, FOX News is a good place to start. They are about to turn off the lights at CNN. Their ratings are at the lowest point in over twenty years. They only folks that watch CNN is the captive audience in an airport.

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jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

Popularity and quality are often not synonymous.

Jersey Shore, anybody?

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Kyle Chandler 2 years, 2 months ago

^^^ Hilarity at its finest there!

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Orwell 2 years, 2 months ago

That depends on whether you want to know anything other than what Fox tells you. Agreed, CNN is a joke, but Fox long ago abandoned all journalistic principles in favor of outright propaganda.

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situveux1 2 years, 2 months ago

Nothing? Really, if you're going to spout off, at least know your facts first.

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Kendall Simmons 2 years, 2 months ago

Actually, AP did not say "moderates outspent conservatives 3 to 1".

Rather, they said ""The targeted moderate incumbents outspent their conservative challengers, often by margins of 3-to-1 or more".

Do you see the difference? Do I really need to spell it out for you?

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cowboy 2 years, 2 months ago

"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward."

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Liberty275 2 years, 2 months ago

That, and a liberal will insist he be taxed for sitting and breathing.

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63BC 2 years, 2 months ago

Statewide turnout was 22.8 percent, as reported by the Wichita Eagle [below]. In districts with hotly contested Republican legislative primaries it typically was 40-60 percent. Where turnout was high, Brownback's folks won---because voters agreed with them on the issues. Customers [voters] got what they wanted. The market functioned.

Voter turnout for Tuesday’s primary across the state and in Sedgwick County was higher than projected by officials, according to figures announced Wednesday.

Sedgwick County saw a turnout of 20.4 percent of registered voters, or 53,887 voters, which was more than 15 percent that was projected rate.

Kansas Secretary of State’s office had said earlier that Sedgwick County’s turnout was 24.8 percent, but that was based upon incorrect numbers provided late Tuesday night by the county’s election office, Sedgwick County Election Commissioner Tabitha Lehman said.

Statewide, 22.8 percent of registered voters (392,142) cast ballots in the primary.

Greeley County had the highest turnout with 64.7 percent; the lowest was Wyandotte’s 11.3 percent. Johnson County had 17.1 percent and Shawnee County 27.8 percent.

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Katara 2 years, 2 months ago

So a result that was from a voter turnout of 23% is now considered a clear statement?

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Katara 2 years, 2 months ago

Well, it couldn't be a clear statement from all the 23% since that was the entire turnout. There would have been those who voted for moderate Republicans and the entire turnout includes the Democrat primary.

I wonder how many actually voted for the yes-men Brownback wants in office.

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James Nelson 2 years, 2 months ago

We'll see in November, tough guy. I can see you salivating now. One of the legs on your stool is going to break before the general election.

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verity 2 years, 2 months ago

This article and Brownback's statement pretend that all "conservatives" (actual reactionaries) won in all races against moderates. That is not true.

Where is the rest of the story?

I would also like to know how many of these reactionaries have Democrats running against them in the general election. It ain't over yet.

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Richard Heckler 2 years, 2 months ago

Kobach was right there is voter fraud in Kansas which was initiated from his office. Voter ID was a fraud perpetrated on the voters which created a lot of confusion which was the Kobach objective.

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Flap Doodle 2 years, 2 months ago

Do you have to shout when plugging that website?

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

My guess is that Huntsman would be embarrassed to be associated with you.

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jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

I love the "middle of the road conservatism" comment.

Doesn't that illustrate well the attempted shifting of the center towards the right?

Middle of the road should more accurately be a term for moderates, I would think.

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Frederic Gutknecht IV 2 years, 2 months ago

"I'm all for middle-of-the-road conservatism...Yet, I support...Brownback. Why? He's a leader..." Brilliant. We understand. You're a follower...among followers...and a whiner among whiners... Brilliant. Follow your leader. Pay no attention to the DEAD END signs.

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Acey 2 years, 2 months ago

G R A D U A T E D i n c o m e t a x e s ! Kansans CAN afford that kind of taxation. Fair taxation! THESE TAXES are needed for programs that assist Kansans in the lower-income brackets, children, old folks. It is the duty of our citizens to levy fair taxes. It is fair that these taxes be collected. It is simply WRONG for the Mister and Misses Moneybags to buy the government of the State of Kansas.
It is wrong for the Koch Brothers to take our state.

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George_Braziller 2 years, 2 months ago

Who are these "high income earners" and where are the fantasy jobs you talk about? Lower income taxes won't bring people into the state if there aren't any jobs, it just means that the portion of dried beans they have to share with others will be smaller when they file for food stamps..

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Orwell 2 years, 2 months ago

They've been sitting on their Bush tax cuts for over a decade. How much profit does the government have to promise them before they'll get around to hiring – and what kind of "free market" is that, anyway?

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Kendall Simmons 2 years, 2 months ago

I can't believe it. You seriously think that "high income earners" are so desperate to save a few bucks in income taxes that they'll move to...Kansas!!!

Jeez Louise!! Look at the 9 states that don't have a state income tax...including Texas, Florida, Washington, and New Hampshire (which also has no sales tax)..and you think KANSAS is going to be "more attractive" to them????

Wow. Just...wow.

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jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

What a bizarre world view - that people are either high income earners, or socialists/welfare recipients.

The middle class hasn't been completely destroyed yet - of course, if those on the right continue their policies, it may be soon.

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verity 2 years, 2 months ago

Seems to be a lot of that bizarre opinion on here.

Your second sentence is right on also.

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Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

jafs, I hate to point out the obvious but tennesseerader's views are mainstream. Predictably the bubble of Larryville shows how out of touch with the real world and basic economics the vast majority of Larryvillers are.

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Kendall Simmons 2 years, 2 months ago

It may be "mainstream" if you're referring to conservatives in Kansas. But, as I've already said, the idea that "high income earners" will move to Kansas so they can pay lower state income tax is utterly absurd.

After all, it's not like there aren't already 9 states that have no state income tax. So why the heck move to Kansas...particularly for merely "lower" state income taxes???

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jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

So, you also believe that there are two "classes" - high income earners and welfare recipients/socialists?

Sounds strangely reminiscent of Marxism in a way.

And, as I said, the right hasn't destroyed the middle class yet, so it's an obviously incorrect idea.

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chootspa 2 years, 2 months ago

Even Marxism allows for three classes.

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jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

Really? I thought it was just capitalists and proletariats - what's the third class?

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Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

Vertigo's daily view from the bubble.

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Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

Your premise is bogus, why bother to answer

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Kendall Simmons 2 years, 2 months ago

I would appreciate an explanation of why you think his premise is bogus. Sadly, that's what it seems more and more like to me.

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Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

A) Our country was founded on Christian principles B) Christians do help the poor - but not according to the lefts warped ideas C) You chuckleheads could careless about religeon except to try and make a futile point D) It must be hard for you guys to go through life always on the loosing side. E) Enjoy life in your bubble

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 2 months ago

That was an explanation of why you have no ability for or interest in critical thinking, not an explanation of why the premise was bogus.

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Armstrong 2 years, 2 months ago

Are you and Tusch one in the same ?

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Bob Reinsch 2 years, 2 months ago

Shut up, smile, grab your ankles and keep saying to yourself. "The Koch Brothers really do care about me! The Koch Brothers really do care about me! The Kock brothers really do care about me!"....

This message brought to you by the Bohica Party.

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JackMcKee 2 years, 2 months ago

T minus 4 months to the magic economic stimulus aka Sammie's tax sham. So far, two major employers have ditched Kansas, taking over 3,000 good jobs with them. This despite the opportunity to pay zero income tax. One of them just moved to KCMO where in addition to state income tax, they are also subject to city income tax. Can we end this idiotic experiment before the state is staring down the barrel of fiscal insolvency?

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chootspa 2 years, 2 months ago

But the fiscal insolvency is such a convenient tool to let us raid all the retirement funds and privatize schools and social programs.

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Wiry 2 years, 2 months ago

Yes they made a statement! That statement being: "Look at how stupid Kansans are, we not only elected a total idiot, but now we want more people with same level of intelligence to help him destroy Kansas"

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Richard Benson 2 years, 2 months ago

Well. Katie bar the door.

Now Governor Pothole is free to become Governor Bridge Out.

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