Topeka — Kansas Republicans want to make the state a model for the nation after several conservative primary victories in Tuesday's election.
Congressman Mike Pompeo says that during his first 19 months in office he has watched what happens when states are bold.
He says people in Washington question why they cannot do what Gov. Sam Brownback is doing in Kansas. They also point to steps taken by conservatives in Wisconsin, or by Gov. Bobby Jindal in Louisiana.
Pompeo says Kansas can point others in the right direction.
Pompeo was unopposed in Tuesday's primary as he seeks a second term in the U.S. House from the Wichita area district. In November, he'll face Democrat Robert Tillman, a political newcomer and retired Wichita court services officer.
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Hooligan_016 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Yeah, a model of what not to do.
/ zing // too easy
parrothead8 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Isn't "compassionate conservative" an oxymoron?
sourpuss 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Compassion for whom, precisely? The precious "taxpayer"?
Topple 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Compassion for those who work for what they receive.
just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Preferably at minimum wage or less, right?
caughtinthemiddle 9 months, 1 week ago
And those who can not work? What of them? Compassion, my ---.
headdoctor 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Sorry to wake you up to current times but there are very few compassionate conservatives left. The modern Republican party is nothing more than an abomination of the old GOP.
Agnostick 9 months, 2 weeks ago
A model for marine-wannabe crackpots who want to turn rambling websites into books, maybe... that's about it.
Katara 9 months, 2 weeks ago
"Congressman Mike Pompeo says that during his first 19 months in office he has watched what happens when states are bold."
Yeah, it worked out great for Texas.
just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Haven't you been disappeared again yet?
bradh 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Yeah Page, we can't handle having anyone that disparages our policies. It's not like we're in a democracy or something, or have the right to free speech. The world isn't safe until everyone thinks like us, talks like us and looks like us. We know what's best for everyone and are more than glad to make you toe the line. So just shut your mouth and believe like us or we'll talk to the thought police about you.
just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 months, 2 weeks ago
No, it's just wondering when his frustration at not being able to get everyone to constrict themselves in the same ideological straightjacket he wears will make him start insulting others with every post.
Katara 9 months, 1 week ago
Or start PM'ing threats to people again.
msezdsit 9 months, 1 week ago
out for lunch
msezdsit 9 months, 1 week ago
out to lunch
fredthemechanic1213 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Texas is doing great, they are one of the leading job creating states in the nation, Top 5 if I remember right.
CountyResident 9 months, 2 weeks ago
I believe that most of these jobs are minimum wage jobs.
vertigo 9 months, 2 weeks ago
They also have a tourism and energy industry our state doesn't have... oh yeah, and a $29B deficit.
Quite the role model Texas is.
frankfussman 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Those are low-wage jobs, many part-time, no benefits. That's the kind of job creation in Texas.
progressive_thinker 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Just a few facts about the fine state of Texas:
Texas ranks 50th among the states [worst in the nation] in percentage of the adult population over 25 without a GED
Texas ranks 43rd among the states in high school graduation rate
Texas is the 4th highest among the states in percent of children living in poverty.
Texas has the highest percentage among the states [worst in the nation] of non elderly women who lack health insurance
Texas ranks 45th among the states in percentage of women who have had a dental visit in the past year.
Texas ranks 50th [worst in the nation] among the states regarding the percentage of women who receive prenatal care in the first trimester.
Texas ranks 49th among the states in terms of women's voter turnout
Texas ranks 6th among the states in terms of the percentage of women living in poverty.
Texas leading the nation?????
Katara 9 months, 2 weeks ago
And I'm sure you can find a legitimate source to support your statement?
progressive_thinker 9 months, 2 weeks ago
No, he cannot
Katara 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Of course, he can't. It is complete hogwash.
"The MMP’s reports are freely available to anyone through its website, http://mmp.opr.princeton.edu. But statistics can be sterile things. Get Massey going, and one gets an earful about the true state of affairs along the border. To wit:
http://paw.princeton.edu/issues/2012/04/25/pages/5761/index.xml
jaywalker 9 months, 2 weeks ago
I believe you're correct that there is no "invasion", but it wouldn't surprise me at all if those initial stats were heavily swayed by the immigrants that do populate Texas.
progressive_thinker 9 months, 1 week ago
If it is such a source of the problem then why is it that their republican governor supported in-state tuition, and a path to citizenship for undocumented aliens in Texas? If they are a drain on the state, why would Governor Perry have opposed a strict law such as was passed in Arizona?
The correct answer is that the undocumented workers are a tremendous source of cheap labor.
Katara 9 months, 1 week ago
I am also thinking that if those stats were heavily swayed by the immigrants in TX, those stats would go all the way back to the 50's and there would be a historical record of TX being in pretty much the same position rankings-wise as it is now.
mikekt 9 months, 2 weeks ago
And they have......... Rick Perry !?
rtwngr 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Illegal immigrants, that's right, illegal immigrants skew the Texas statistics in the direction that gives you these conclusions. Close the borders and shut off the flow of felonious migration and lots of those statistics that you point to in Texas will get better all by themselves. Oh, but you libs don't want to do that because you want to keep the welfare model rolling along so you can keep power and continue to bankrupt every government entity you can get a hold of. I have a model state for you, Illinois. Look that one up and tell me what you think.
progressive_thinker 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Got any evidence from a legitimate source to support that? I did not think so.
tbaker 9 months, 1 week ago
How are these "state" problems? At what point will people be held responsible for their own choices?
If you're a HS drop out, have no GED, haven't been to the dentist lately and live in poverty, how is that the "state's" fault? Thats the problem with statists; you point metrics like these and say government has failed, ergo, it needs to get bigger and take even more money from people who work and earn so it can grow and spend more and more. Hog wash! The State of Texas hasn't failed, the people who make-up these statistics have failed.
If you want to produce a list of metrics that demonstrates government failue, than produce one that demonstrates how the State of Texas is preventing people from getting a HS diploma or GED; show me how state government is causing people to live in poverty, how state laws are making it harder for someone to get a job and take care of themselves. Show me how the state of Texas blocks women from going to the dentist. Show me how all the people who make up these statistics are in this condition becuase of their own choices and slothfull nature, or prove these people have busted their butts and tried everything humanly possible, but cannot succeed inlife because they are being stopped by the state.
People need to get motivated and demonstrate a little self-discypline and go out and make something of their lives and stop laying around on their a$$es and expect the "government" to give them everything. Just because a State has decided to let people live their own lives and make their own choices doesn't mean it's suddenly government's fault when some bum decides not to make anything of himself.
jafs 9 months, 1 week ago
Interesting.
So, if state policies aren't responsible for these problems, then they must also not be responsible for any such successes, right?
But, many on the right give policies credit for success, but not failure.
Katara 9 months, 2 weeks ago
by Katara
progressive_thinker 9 months, 2 weeks ago
??
Katara 9 months, 2 weeks ago
If it was directed to you, the reply would be indented like bigtoe's post
truman1902 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Kinda early for chest-thumping don't ya think?
just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Haven't you been disappeared again yet?
progressive_thinker 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Here is some truth for you to handle:
Texas has the largest number of employees working at or below the federal minimum wage of all of the 50 states
http://www.bls.gov/ro6/fax/minwage_tx.htm
progressive_thinker 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Texas employers are being subsidized by the taxpayers. When they do not pay a decent wage, the rest of us end up paying more in housing support, food stamps, and other programs so that they can have cheap labor.
rtwngr 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Yeah, the rich white people got rich by taking the money away from you. You lost your argument right there.
notajayhawk 9 months, 1 week ago
"Go check out motherjones.com 14 wacky facts to be taught in Louisiana. Nutcase city."
"mother jones" ... "whacky facts" ... "Nutcase city"
Being a little redundant there, ain't we?
just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 months, 2 weeks ago
This site is behaving very weirdly.
cait48 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Are you saying you have some power over this site? Really? You're the champion of being booted from this site and you want to make out like you have the cajones to run it? Hmmm...given how many times you've made it back on, maybe you do. Which says more about the LJW than it does you.
just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Actually, I clicked on "suggest removal" on my repeat posts. I doubt that sage had anything to do with it.
Agnostick 9 months, 2 weeks ago
"That’s why Texas Republicans have traditionally gone their own way—to the left—on immigration policy. When tea party legislators tried during this summer’s special session to require so-called sanctuary cities—such as Houston—to enforce federal immigration law, Texas’s most powerful Republican donors squashed the bill even as Perry, in full pander mode prior to announcing his run, supported it. To his credit, candidate Perry has defended the principle of giving undocumented children better access to higher education—and has taken his lumps for it.
"But this very public dustup is about as close as the nation will ever come to noticing the complexities of the Texas Miracle. Perry’s recently announced “Cut, Balance, and Grow” plan perpetuates the myth of how Texas grew, while his new focus on energy production only reinforces the claims of his foes on the left and the right that the Texas economy is a one-trick pony. The debate will move even further from the truth, which is that Texas has succeeded by using every tool in the shed: we’ve contained costs and expanded government, borrowed to build our future, globalized our trade, and welcomed a diverse immigrant population—and not too long ago we expected our political parties to work together toward non-ideological solutions.
"Today we’re a two-party state again: the tea party and the Republican Party. Under pressure from the former, we’ve started dismantling the Texas Miracle by embracing a one-size-fits-all (Perry’s definition of socialism) national formula for cutting government, closing the border, and never, ever using the d-word (debt). Even as Perry tries to sell the Texas economy to the entire nation, the biggest threat to our state’s unique prosperity is that we won’t learn how it came about until it goes away."
Michael Ennis "Split Deception" Texas Monthly magazine December 2011
What "worked out great in Texas"... isn't what most people think. It certainly isn't what certain Internet trolls think...
tir 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Kansas is well on its way to becoming a model, all right--a model for "Government by the Rich, For the Rich." The Kochs and their wealthy buddies whose incomes place them in the top of the food chain have pretty much POWNed the Kansas Legislature, and they are going to use that power to insure that they make as much $$$ as possible for themselves, pay NO taxes, do away with all government regulation that might stand in their way. They don't care about any "values" except the value of their own bottom lines. Those of us who are part of the 99% (including conservatives) are basically going to get screwed.
tir 9 months, 2 weeks ago
The fallout will really start when the state is unable to balance the budget due to Brownwhack's massive tax cuts for businesses, and starts to make deeper cuts to education, social services, state prisons, highways, etc.
gatekeeper 9 months, 2 weeks ago
What the GOP has done in KS is alienate moderate, level-headed voters. All the right wingers on here keep acting like 90% of the state turned out and voted in this primary. A tiny amount of voters, total right wingzealots went to the polls. It's sad, but very few people will turn out to vote in primary elections. If all the registered republicans in KS had turned out to vote, the moderates would have won. Most of people in this state are still moderate, but the small group of zealots got their way and turned out. I know quite a few registered repubs that will be voting for the dems come Nov.
jafs 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Glad to hear it, but I wish they would have turned out for the primaries and voted for the moderate R as well.
That way, at least we wouldn't have the possibility of a conservative takeover next election.
verity 9 months, 1 week ago
Jafs, please don't call them conservatives. They are radical reactionaries. You do real conservatives a gross injustice by lumping them together with the extremists---and muddy the waters. We need to call the extremists what they are and not give them the cover of saying that they are conservatives.
I know you are by far not the only one doing this, but I happened upon your post this morning.
jafs 9 months, 1 week ago
Ok.
verity 9 months, 1 week ago
Thank you. Now if I can just get the others on board : )
merrill 9 months, 2 weeks ago
In the first place Brownback and those who subscribe to that point of view are not republicans.
Voters are still not paying attention before they elect these right wing thinkers and they are not paying attention as to how these people perform after the election.
The radical right Libertarians is who voters are putting in office. Of course they refuse to campaign under the Libertarian umbrella because voters would shut them out... and they know this.
This radical right Libertarian party are masters at deception and masters at big spending which is contrary to the Republican fiscal conservative/socially responsible philosophy.
This radical right Libertarian party is huge on corporate socialism aka corp welfare aka pork barrel aka corporate subsidies
Why do republicans vote for right wing Libertarians?
Why this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertar....
Why this http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Libertarianism
Why this http://www.libertarianism.org/ex-1.html
just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Sorry about the multiple posts that went off into cyber nowheresville before finally appearing.
just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 months, 2 weeks ago
I'm guessing that the glitch was caused by the addition of a "blog about this" button that appeared briefly, but apparently isn't yet ready for prime time.
JackMcKee 9 months, 2 weeks ago
What a hilarious piece of nonsense. Brownback's agenda can succeed in Kansas because we have so many one issue voters who will vote purely on how a person stands on abortion. They don't really pay attention to very much else. Oh they watch their Fox News and their Glen Beck and listen to Limboob. Manipulating these people is pretty easy for the far right.
Brownback has been a failure at pretty much every possible juncture in Kansas. His approval rating is 10 points lower than Obama. In Kansas. These primaries simply showed that money can win over clueless voters. Try this act on a National scale and you'll get a push back like you've never seen before. Give Brownback's experiment a few years to run its course in Kansas and nobody is going to be talking about his success in the 2012 primaries.
beatrice 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Yep, in the newly conservative Kansas people had better get in line or they just might disappear.
none2 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Why would they leave now that they are on the brink of controlling the Kansas Senate?
none2 9 months, 2 weeks ago
You know they won't do that. They just ousted the moderates, so they are on the path to winning the Kansas senate. People don't usually leave when they are about to take absolute control.
Hooligan_016 9 months, 2 weeks ago
OH, now I get it. I'm a "religious bigot" because I don't think Xtianity is the end all be all religion in this country.
Got it. I'm the bigot. Silly me.
ThePilgrim 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Brownback and many nutjob right wingers are not typical Christians, and if they were evaluated on their beliefs it would be clear that they do not even have historical orthodox Christian beliefs. It is much more closer to "God told me" Gnosticism, a big dose of name-it-and-claim-it Tulsa faith healer prosperity doctrine, mixed well with American nationalism, and the belief that the poor got what they had coming to them, somehow they deserved their poor health, wealth, or suffering. None of those beliefs are historic orthodox Christian beliefs.
scarlett 9 months, 2 weeks ago
The brownbackistani's are in for a big surprise if they think that most people and businesses want to live in a rather boring state where all the women are barefoot and pregnant, where the masses are uneducated, where the state religion is faux christianity, where jobs are non-existent or minimum wage, and where gays are banned and taken away to concentration camps. Yeah, lovely place. Oh, I forgot, the poor can eat cake.
jafs 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Have you emigrated yet, due to your fantastic hatred of Obama?
question4u 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Why on earth would Mike Pompeo want other states to follow the Kansas example? Isn't the idea supposed to be that you cut taxes on businesses so that businesses will come to Kansas from other states that collect business income taxes? Isn't that what Flim-Flam Sam has been spouting?
Kansas doesn't have natural attractions like Colorado, great cities like Texas, or a pleasant climate like Virginia or North Carolina. It doesn't have cultural attractions either. Brownback is gambling on the idea that he can make Kansas even less attractive by gutting education, public safety and highways and eliminating state support for the arts but still entice business owners who don't care about an educated workforce or a high quality of life by offering the prospect of no state income taxes on businesses. If other states were to eliminate their income taxes on businesses, on the plus side for Kansas, no one else's schools, universities, prisons, highways and state services would be any better than what ours will become. On the negative side, Kansas will have sabotaged its own infrastructure for no good reason. What businesses are going to come to Kansas if everyone eliminates income taxes on businesses? What workers are going to want to come to Kansas if every state has the boom in jobs that Brownback is promising? In what fantasy are those things going to happen?
Whether you believe in Brownback's "experiment" or not you should at least be able to see that every state can't possibly increase its economy by attracting businesses from other states. Brownback has staked the farm on a zero-sum game and if he has any sense at all he should be praying that other states don't follow his example. The idea that, all things being equal, businesses would flock to Kansas instead of to any one of the majority of states that actually have something to offer in terms of large local markets for goods and services, scenery, public recreation lands, cultural institutions, great universities, sophisticated cities, or agreeable climate is laughable. People don't tend to flock to wheat fields.
How much thought have the architects of this "experiment" given to its consequences if they don't even recognize that any hope of success depends on being able to offer some incentive that other states don't? Pompeo doesn't seem to have a clue.
verity 9 months, 1 week ago
Maybe we should try working with what we have and in doing so help the economy of the whole country rather than just moving the chess pieces randomly about?
Kansas does have a lot of wind, sun, arable land and hard-working people (despite what the reactionaries would like us to believe).
blindrabbit 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Tell me how some backward drifting very bland, introverted, inferior complexed midwestern state with 6 electoral votes is going to be the "model for the nation". Model of what, bigotedness!, Give me a break!!!
blindrabbit 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Model for what? How is some very bland, introverted, inferior complexed, bigoted midwestern state with 6 electoral votes going to become "the Model" for the rest of the nation. How the GOP has allowed itself to become what it is now in Kansas is a testament to Thomas Frank's "What the Matter With Kansas".
vertigo 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Just remember conservative legislature members:
When sworn in you place your hand on the Bible and swear to uphold the Constitution. Not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible.
just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Who cares?
Agnostick 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Arminius2 ponders:
"Why is it that people swear with hand on a Bible if it were not deemed greater than the object they are swearing to uphold?"
Probably the same reason some people falsely claim to be authors, or to be military veterans. They can't stand what they see in the mirror every morning, so they spend much of their life trying to make those around them believe in the fantasies as much as they do, if not more.
agnostick@excite.com
Agnostick 9 months, 2 weeks ago
headdoctor didn't claim to be a published author--you did.
The secret is out... let the laughter begin!
Agnostick 9 months, 2 weeks ago
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/aug/08/statehouse-live-democrats-ask-moderate-republicans/#c2110869
So? You claim something about books. Are you asking headdoctor if he has read any of the books that you have read... or are you asking headdoctor if he has read any of the books you have written??
You seemed hellbent to prove something with that query; then, you dropped it ran with your tail between your legs.
So, SageonPage... you're a published author, then?
Can you link to these books?
vertigo 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Deemed by some... not by -all-.
esteshawk 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Ever read the Constitution. Requiring swearing on the Bible is prohibited by the Constitution, which is why there is an option to say "affirm" instead of "swear.". Which means your assertion the bible is greater than the Constitution is a prima faci falsehood.
verity 9 months, 1 week ago
I find swearing on the Bible very odd since the Bible itself forbids it.
Matthew 5:33-37 KJV Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
mommatocharlie 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Ifr it means keeping Brownback as King, then I would rather Kansas not be the leader of anything in the nation. And this comes from someone who voted for the guy in 2008. Much to my regret, i must add. It is time right now to start looking for a Republican who has his ducks in a row, and knows better than to have the state run on the backs of its citizens.
Armstrong 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Why yes just look at our state defecit. Oh Brownie fixed that Why yes just look at our national defecit. Oh Barack F'd us.
Whose the disaster ?
JJE007 9 months, 2 weeks ago
"Whose the disaster?" a new film of wealth supported by idiot belief... "Whose", the hose with a "W"...Hose who's the "Whose"! The "Whose" hose is who's F'd us, hoser...who has a deficit defecit defecating us into eternal deficits.'it's" officially hit the fan and you are one enabling this defec'ting in the political waters. There's a sucker voting every minute...for the end of democracy. THANKS!
Katara 9 months, 1 week ago
Brownback didn't "fix" the state deficit with tax cuts. It was with a temporary sales tax increase and he is fighting to keep that temporary increase in place.
It is just more of how he will hurt those who can least afford it. Cut income taxes but sales tax and property taxes will increase.
just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 months, 2 weeks ago
So, you're saying the nightmare will never end.
ThePilgrim 9 months, 2 weeks ago
I don't know. Obama will almost certainly get re-elected although his policies have failed to produce the prosperity that the public thinks that it wants. All the Repubs have to do is wrap the re-election of Brownback in the "this is the most important election in our lifetimes" speech again, like they do every cycle.
esteshawk 9 months, 2 weeks ago
1st: Obama is not a socialist. The AHCA is forced capitalism not socialism. 2nd: Socialism has not failed everywhere it has been tried, unless you think Canada, Sweden, England are failed countries (which pretty much makes you a Xenophobe).
jafs 9 months, 1 week ago
Well, England's not doing that well.
But, Denmark has been found twice to be the country with the happiest population, and Sweden, New Zealand, Australia, Switerland, etc. seem to be doing well.
None of those countries have our privatized health care system.
But, those on the right who like to ignore facts and twist things, so that up is really down, don't care about reality.
jayhawklawrence 9 months, 2 weeks ago
I am afraid Kansas will not be the kind of model the conservatives have in mind.
History tells us that Kansans know how to survive adversity. We will need to do that before this is over.
moderationman 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Texas is a fiscal mess, worse than California but better than Illinois. Reducing taxes on corps is not going to bring new industry, it never has and never will. What business wants to come to a state where the workforce is uneducated and it doesn't care for its disabled or elderly? Of course "S" corps paying no taxes was music to the Koch's ears as Koch Industries is an S" corp.
ThePilgrim 9 months, 2 weeks ago
The problem with Repubs is that they don't really believe in freedom and liberty. They just can't stand the ramifications of what freedom means - people might actually choose to sin.
The Leftists want to turn America into a Utopia, eliminate social "injustice" (like if I have more money than my neighbor), tell you what you can eat, and control your money. The Right wants to turn the country into a Theocracy. Both sides believe that we are stupid children that need to be controlled. And they are the Thought Police.
And big business on both sides buys the candidates and sells the message.
mikekt 9 months, 2 weeks ago
The whole US should model themselves after the KS DMV ?!
love2bike 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Don't really want to be part of this "model".....time to move across that state line!
msezdsit 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Great. , these maggots are so full of their own feces that they think they can out stupid Oklahoma and the Texas. Texas has a lot bigger state to destroy and Oklahoma is as stupid as you can get so that puts a pretty big challenge for these arrogant right wing maggots. Kansas new motto, "Even you to can destroy your state." As I have posted before, these people will get their comeuppance and then its just a matter of how many years it will take to fix their carnage after they are buried. Until then Kansas fall from freedom will continue.
Kathy Getto 9 months, 2 weeks ago
http://www.pitch.com/wayward/archives/2011/08/25/welcome-to-brownbackistan-shirts-to-benefit-the-arts
msezdsit 9 months, 1 week ago
troll
Topple 9 months, 2 weeks ago
These political posts are getting very boring. Everyone needs to find some new material.
merrill 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Republican economic policy makes buying homes a huge risk as a long term investment
They have established this risk under Reagan/Bush and Bush/Cheney which of course is easily documented.
It is these two administrations that brought the USA frauds that effectively took down home values substantially.
Why isn't the democratic party reminding voters,taxpayers and homeowners of this monster risk? Sweeping matters under the rug will not protect homeowners and new buyers.
Brownback and other Kansas delegates were in the beltway. Did they warn their constituents of the coming financial disaster?
It was fraud and republican politics not the housing market that destroyed an all American long term investment.
headdoctor 9 months, 2 weeks ago
You seem to have a really twisted idea of the cause and total blame of the housing industry crash since the last several presidents had their fingers into the CRA and its predecessor programs. I don't suppose you would want to attach any of the problem to housing loan deregulation, greed or even President Bush wiping out the uptick rule? Of course not. Then you wouldn't have an excuse to go off just on Clinton or admit that deregulation isn't always a great idea.
Katara 9 months, 1 week ago
Clinton! Clinton! Clinton! Everyone always talks about Clinton.
http://tinyurl.com/957y3qm
Agnostick 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Back in December, Texas Monthly magazine published a fairly good analysis of the recent economic realities in Texas. While the magazine's website requires a membership for full access to their content, I believe sharing a couple of paragraphs, along with a bit of paraphrasing, would do just fine here.
Last fall, when Texas governor Rick Perry and his supporters were still making a play for the White House, Perry touted Texas as some kind of economic miracle in the midst of the meltdown that seemed to be plaguing the other 49 states; his opponents, mostly Democrats, claimed it was mostly lies and fabrication. According to author Michael Ennis, neither side is totally correct. Yes, Texas has been a model of economic strength in recent years--but not for the reasons Perry and his followers (along with most Republicans) like to preach.
Yes, Texas has oil, zero income tax, low regulation, right-to-work laws, and a Republican legislature--and all these things were in place long before the Perry administration.
Perry likes to preach the "small government" myth, but the size of Texas government has increased more than 50% since Perry took office. Jobs? Yes, Perry has "created" lots of them. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that includes about 300,000 public sector jobs. Were Perry (still) a Democrat, he would be the poster boy for the adage that a a robust public sector leads to private industry growth.
Perry claimed balance budgets, and they were honest claims; after all, balancing a budget is a lot easier when you're spending other people's money. For example, much of the infrastructure improvement and maintenance projects that would normally come out of state the state budget, were all shifted over to the municipalities. Why worry about erasing debt, when you can just chuck it into someone else's basket? During the first year eight years of Perry's administration, public debt ballooned larger than that of California--it just didn't happen in the statehouse.
When George W. Bush was elected governor, one of his big goals was to bring everyone together--and in that case, he succeeded. He inspired Democrat and Republican legislators to work together, and two of the major results were the very, very thoughtful and careful deregulating of the energy market, along with a carefully-crafted rollback of the old prohibition against second mortgages. Both of these items were more bearish and bullish--think cows being let into the pasture to graze, one at a time, rather than a full-on stampede over the fences.
Perry helped institute Texas' own version of the DREAM Act. Texas has been considerably more welcoming of legal immigration, and they've reaped the benefits for it.
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Agnostick 9 months, 2 weeks ago
In closing, Ennis writes:
"That’s why Texas Republicans have traditionally gone their own way—to the left—on immigration policy. When tea party legislators tried during this summer’s special session to require so-called sanctuary cities—such as Houston—to enforce federal immigration law, Texas’s most powerful Republican donors squashed the bill even as Perry, in full pander mode prior to announcing his run, supported it. To his credit, candidate Perry has defended the principle of giving undocumented children better access to higher education—and has taken his lumps for it.
"But this very public dustup is about as close as the nation will ever come to noticing the complexities of the Texas Miracle. Perry’s recently announced “Cut, Balance, and Grow” plan perpetuates the myth of how Texas grew, while his new focus on energy production only reinforces the claims of his foes on the left and the right that the Texas economy is a one-trick pony. The debate will move even further from the truth, which is that Texas has succeeded by using every tool in the shed: we’ve contained costs and expanded government, borrowed to build our future, globalized our trade, and welcomed a diverse immigrant population—and not too long ago we expected our political parties to work together toward non-ideological solutions.
"Today we’re a two-party state again: the tea party and the Republican Party. Under pressure from the former, we’ve started dismantling the Texas Miracle by embracing a one-size-fits-all (Perry’s definition of socialism) national formula for cutting government, closing the border, and never, ever using the d-word (debt). Even as Perry tries to sell the Texas economy to the entire nation, the biggest threat to our state’s unique prosperity is that we won’t learn how it came about until it goes away."
Michael Ennis "Split Deception" Texas Monthly magazine December 2011 http://www.texasmonthly.com/2011-12-01/ennis.php
What "worked out great in Texas"... isn't what most people think. It certainly isn't what certain Internet trolls think...
Agnostick 9 months, 2 weeks ago
The article was published in December. If you bother to read, the author never questioned whether or not "business is booming" in Texas. The question was about how it got that way. Try reading before you post, for once. Not that reading and reasonable discussion were ever your strong suits here, Arminius.
Agnostick 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Hey, wasn't that the guy that used to run LJW newspapers over to one of the surrounding areas, until he was canned for being belligerent and threatening to some of the staff members?
jafs 9 months, 2 weeks ago
A new poster bears a remarkable resemblance to a recently disappeared one - I wonder how long it will take for this incarnation to be banished?
Agnostick 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Except the "disappeareded" didn't happen all that recently. Someone's radar (not mine!) went off, and now the restorereason is out. It's like everyone suddenly smells the stench. PM for details, if you wish.
Katara 9 months, 1 week ago
It isn't the same one that you are referring to. The new guy on now has many more banned usernames than the guy you are referring to.
Maybe they have a contest going?
headdoctor 9 months, 2 weeks ago
It will probably depend on how long he can keep his cool and avoid personal attacks and stalking posters who disagree with his posts and his own version of political history.
blindrabbit 9 months, 1 week ago
Am I missing something; are SageonPage, TomShewmon and NancyBoytoyou all alias for the Linwood/Leavenworth County poster. Miss his annointedOne and Obama perverted banterings! Just guessing!
Agnostick 9 months, 1 week ago
Check PMs....
Katara 9 months, 1 week ago
Not the same at all.
At least TomShewmon/NancyBoyt/whatever other names he's used was funny.
SageonPage has no sense of humor. I think he had it surgically removed when Reagan was elected.
vertigo 9 months, 1 week ago
SageonPage is not Shewmon, he's another zombie... but not that one.
Agnostick 9 months, 1 week ago
Hehehe....
http://cjonline.com/blog-post/groenhagen/2011-02-24/stand-phill-kline
blindrabbit, I sent you a message.
And there's that pesky "Blog about this" button again...
JackMcKee 9 months, 1 week ago
My only question is who will Brownback try to pass this off on when it falls flat on its face?
Katara 9 months, 1 week ago
Some guy that he hired from Florida is my guess.
vertigo 9 months, 1 week ago
"This is going to be a huge success, money will flow in the right direction again"
Yeah and in only one direction. Up.
Everyone else is SOL.
headdoctor 9 months, 1 week ago
What history book have your been reading? RINO's are US. Tax breaks, corporate loop holes, and deregulation haven't done squat except to fill the corporations and the wealthy pockets with the spoils of a raped economy. Here in Kansas what good will it do for businesses to come here if the population can't afford their product and services and if Brownback has his way, where are the educated workers going to be found?
Shall we start listing the number of corporations and wealthy that have drained countless retirement accounts, future retirement nest eggs, stolen what savings some people had, or that robbed the tax payers blind. I know, and the RINO's also want to privatize Social Security so the corporate world can have even more billions to steal. I have read the history. Perhaps now it is time for you to do the same.
Katara 9 months, 1 week ago
SageonPage must be reading the history books rewritten by the TX State Board of Education.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html
You'd think that someone who claimed to be a "Jeffersonian Democrat" in the past would be a bit miffed at having Jefferson left out of the list of historical figures to study.
merrill 9 months, 1 week ago
Pro Choice Republicans for Planned Parenthood
In the wake of continued efforts to bar Planned Parenthood federal funding, we are proud to share the following statement of support from Republicans for Women's Health:
For over 95 years, Planned Parenthood has made vital health care and education available to millions of American families. As a specialist in women’s health, Planned Parenthood provides vital sexual and reproductive health services to nearly three million patients every year at nearly 800 health centers nationwide.
One in five American women has received care from a Planned Parenthood health center during her lifetime, and for many Americans, Planned Parenthood’s doctors and nurses are the only health care providers they see. An essential community provider of lifesaving primary and preventive care, Planned Parenthood represents the very best of traditional Republican values — which is why so many Planned Parenthood health centers were founded by Republicans years ago.
Republicans for Women's Health are proud to support this vital American institution, which safeguards women’s rights to control their reproductive health and destinies from government interference, and provides necessary care that enables women to plan their families and lead productive lives.
STAND WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD
Republicans for Planned Parenthood is dedicated to the preservation of individual rights and reproductive freedom. We believe our nation is best served by policies that support family planning and a woman's right to choose, and we actively support Planned Parenthood as a critical health care service provider, especially for women and young people worldwide.
The Republican Party was founded on a commitment to individual liberty and freedom. The party has a proud history of defending individual rights — from fighting to end slavery and working to secure equal protection and voting rights for African Americans, to leading the way in achieving women’s suffrage.
http://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/get-involved/republicans-740.htm
merrill 9 months, 1 week ago
In the early 1980s, under Reagan, regulatory changes took place that gave the S&L industry new powers and for the first time in history measures were taken to increase the profitability of S&Ls at the expense of promoting home ownership.
What is important to note about the S&L scandal is that it was the largest theft in the history of the world and US tax payers are who was robbed.
The problems occurred in the Savings and Loan industry as they relate to theft because the industry was deregulated under the Reagan/Bush administration and restrictions were eased on the industry so much that abuse and misuse of funds became easy, rampant, and went unchecked.
There are several ways in which the Bush family plays into the Savings and Loan scandal, which involves not only many members of the Bush family but also many other politicians that are still in office and still part of the Bush Jr. administration today.
Jeb Bush, George Bush Sr., and his son Neil Bush have all been implicated in the Savings and Loan Scandal, which cost American tax payers over $1.4 TRILLION dollars (note that this is about one quarter of our national debt).
Between 1981 and 1989, when George Bush finally announced that there was a Savings and Loan Crisis to the world, the Reagan/Bush administration worked to cover up Savings and Loan problems by reducing the number and depth of examinations required of S&Ls as well as attacking political opponents who were sounding early alarms about the S&L industry. Industry insiders were aware of significant S&L problems as early 1986 that they felt would require a bailout.
This information was kept from the media until after Bush had won the 1988 elections.
Jeb Bush defaulted on a $4.56 million loan from Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, Florida. After federal regulators closed the S&L, the office building that Jeb used the $4.56 million to finance was reappraised by the regulators at $500,000, which Bush and his partners paid.
The taxpayers had to pay back the remaining 4 million plus dollars.In the early 1980s, under Reagan, regulatory changes took place that gave the S&L industry new powers and for the first time in history measures were taken to increase the profitability of S&Ls at the expense of promoting home ownership.
Bush/Cheney did a magnificent repeat performance of robbing taxpayers,putting millions more out work,out of medical insurance and billed taxpayers trillions of dollars for the Bush/Cheney admin monitor the largest fraud scheme in the history of the USA.
remember_username 9 months, 1 week ago
For Kansas to become a model for the rest of the nation there would need to be a much larger number of people in the nation who think like the people of Kansas...
Okay...Okay...
Nope still too funny...
goodcountrypeople 9 months, 1 week ago
Thank merciful heaven it's possible for some to live to see Kansas and its mindless street harassment in the rear-view mirror. What a bunch of shameless hype and bull malarkey from Mike Pompeo and the KS GOP,-- but this guy forms a great model of exactly the type of crooks and liars who prosper in the Sunflower State.
headdoctor 9 months, 1 week ago
I just have to wonder sageonpage, what is in it for you and the others who insist on following the modern Republican party no matter what? Their ideology is not going to turn you into a huge corporation or make you wealthy. It isn't going to improve your mates income. It isn't going to reduce your overall taxes. If anything taxes will go up on the middle and lower class. It wont do anything for your children. Their track record is not going to guarantee you that your investments will have any form of a safety net. If they get their way there will be less to help you and your wife out if one or both become disabled. Bluntly, there is nothing they are going to do for you. On the other hand there is plenty they could do to you.
msezdsit 9 months, 1 week ago
"GOP seeks to make state model for nation"
Yep, how to ruin your state so no one would want to live their. Population control.
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