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Democrats ask moderate Republicans, independents to join their cause

August 8, 2012

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— After the political massacre of moderate Republican candidates in the Kansas GOP primary, state Democratic leaders Wednesday urged moderates and independents to join with them to fight what they described as Gov. Sam Brownback's radical agenda.

House Minority Leader Paul Davis, D-Lawrence, and Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, D-Topeka, on Wednesday say moderate Republicans and independents should join Democratic efforts to fight Gov. Sam Brownback's agenda.

House Minority Leader Paul Davis, D-Lawrence, and Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, D-Topeka, on Wednesday say moderate Republicans and independents should join Democratic efforts to fight Gov. Sam Brownback's agenda.

"The welcome mat is front and center at the Democratic Party of Kansas," said House Minority Leader Paul Davis, D-Lawrence.

Davis said the Brownback agenda is anti-public school, anti-middle class taxpayer, and anti-woman.

Brownback, a conservative Republican, issued a statement, saying he is pro-jobs. "The people of Kansas have a clear choice: Do we want to grow the government or grow the economy? Most Kansans want to grow the economy and increase the number of private sector jobs in our state. We will continue working every day to help Kansans fulfill their aspirations.”

On Tuesday, control of the Kansas Senate appeared to be in the hands of so-called conservatives after Brownback and several wealthy contributors, including the billionaire Koch brothers, targeted for defeat a group of moderate Republican incumbents.

Ten senators targeted by Brownback were defeated in the GOP primary, and conservatives picked up two more open Senate seats.

"We had a governor and his followers who wanted to purge members of the Republican Party from the Legislature, taking on traditional Republicans who had been the bulwark of that party for years and years and years," said Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, D-Topeka.

Now the battle continues to the Nov. 6 general election and Democrats are in a precarious situation. Democrats hold only eight of 40 Senate seats and 33 of 125 House seats, and are hoping to get support at the polls from moderate Republicans.

In Tuesday's GOP primary, conservative groups, such as Americans for Prosperity, which was founded by Charles and David Koch, dumped untold amounts of money on mailers that linked moderate Republicans to "Obamacare."

"They ran their campaigns on fear and they, I think, misled a lot of voters that their senator was Barack Obama's best friend," said Davis. Referring to the Affordable Care Act, signed into law by Obama, Davis said, "Nobody in this building was going to effect that."

AFP-Kansas director Derrick Sontag said, “The primary results make one thing clear: Kansans support those who promote fiscally conservative, limited government, free market policies.”

Comments

consumer1 2 years, 4 months ago

Moderate Republicans and Independent vote this way because they don't agree with the Dems. Save your breath. Or continue to impress the sheeple with your rhetoric.

Caz Snwot 2 years, 4 months ago

ummm... as an independent I would have to clear up one thing... I disagree with reps and dems. not just dems. I disagree with you. and I disagree with democracy, capitalism, religion, and school boards.

JustNoticed 2 years, 4 months ago

Spoken like someone who understands that the game is rigged.

Steve Bunch 2 years, 4 months ago

The actions of Brownback and his followers speak for themselves. He is entirely beholden to the Koch brothers and the Kansas Chamber of Commerce.

Cant_have_it_both_ways 2 years, 4 months ago

I'll bet the Koch brothers and the chambers of commerce provide more jobs than you do. Many of which go to whiney, worthless losers that only know what day pay day is and want to do as little as they can between them.

Steve Bunch 2 years, 4 months ago

Spoken like one of the Tea Partiers working on the Brownback plantation.

Mike1949 2 years, 4 months ago

Isn't that the truth! Kansas is well on the way of being one of those screwed up states in the deep south that are so backwards that though English is being spoken, you better listen real close because it isn't the English we were brought up with.

They (tea baggers) are making Kansas one big joke. Ashamed I was born here!

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

So homophobia is another requirement for all good Republicans?

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

I'll add that to the list of stuff that you're frustrated about that you have no control over. Which of the gods are you speaking of, anyway? Since you're all expert in the "sin" department and all. No wonder you fear her.

Probably opposed interracial marriage too.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

"who lobby for special extra-constitutional rights."

What rights are those? Please be specific.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

Translation-- "Preventing me from inflicting my bigotry and intolerance on all of those who don't share my superstitious beliefs."

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

"recognized in the military" Many, many gay soldiers have fought and have sacrificed life and limb in our military and are most certainly deserved of recognition. Far greater heroes than you'll ever be. Since you're big on reading, I'd suggest Randy Shilts' "Conduct Unbecoming" for more information about these heroes. You'd rather sweep them your rug of derision, though. Save any scripture-based response, as it's as relevant as citing Harry Potter here.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

...and just about everyone I know consider my gay friends as "normal". Save your shunning for back at your compound. Bigots won't be missed, anyways.

Hooligan_016 2 years, 4 months ago

Good lord, can we PLEASE have an ignore/hide button?

chootspa 2 years, 4 months ago

Or a dislike button that hid comments with a 5-1 unfavorable ratio.

KS 2 years, 4 months ago

And which plantation/planet are you living on?

Charlie Dominguez 2 years, 4 months ago

This moderate Republican is voting for the Democrats. And you "Cant" are the perfect example why...full of hate, too much FOX! YOu are what is wrong with our country.

tomatogrower 2 years, 4 months ago

Cant demonstrates the extremist conservative's attitude towards workers, and the newest business model for many corporations. No matter how hard an employee works for you, they are just a leech eating into your profit. Never mind that without that worker your business wouldn't exist. Cant - Can't. Party of no and negativity.

Cait McKnelly 2 years, 4 months ago

Prove that he's a liar. Show us just how Brownback is pro-school, pro-woman and pro-middle class. Show us the legislation. Put up or shut up.

question4u 2 years, 4 months ago

Brownback isn't anti-public school? Wow! What would it take for someone to be anti-public school in your mind, extermination of teachers and demolition of buildings?

You may not win points for insight, but at least you can avoid hypocrisy so long as you don't turn around and call Democrats anti-business.

CountyResident 2 years, 4 months ago

Brownback is cleary anti-public schools. He has said so himself.

msezdsit 2 years, 4 months ago

You could make a pretty legitimate claim to being one of the all time biggest whiners ever on these threads so I guess you include yourself in all your whining. Would you like me to send you a sample of your posts and remind you?

Clark Coan 2 years, 4 months ago

We really are living in Brownbakistan as Thomas Frank recently pointed out in the New Yorker.

wastewatcher 2 years, 4 months ago

The LIBERAL DEMS,HENSLEY AND DAVIS, need to simply acknowledge thar their agenda has been defeated once again. Instead of hanging on to a losing plilosophy, it is time to retool the Kansas Dems. OUT WITH HENSLEY, DAVIS, and WAGNON and all of tje ULTRA LIBERAL SEBELIUS minions and find new Kansans.

Steve Bunch 2 years, 4 months ago

Please try to make sense when you write. Thank you.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

The new GOP (Grand Old Plutocracy) have an agenda that will be disastrous for the majority of Kansans. Let's hope that a majority of voters figure that out while there are still elections in which they are allowed to cast votes.

KS 2 years, 4 months ago

Right on "bigtoe". Bozo just hasn't figured out how to get off the bus. He is still dependent on someone to carry him around.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

"He is still dependent on someone to carry him around."

You're the one pretending that we don't all depend on someone to carry us around-- at least in part. That's just part of being human. But that's no surprise-- Republicans these days are doing their damnedest not to be human.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

What landslide are you talking about?

Regardless, a roomful of idiots is almost always even stupider than a lone one. A lone idiot might at least entertain the idea that they haven't a clue, while a roomful of them convince themselves that that are infallible (that's why you all have Fox News.)

MarcoPogo 2 years, 4 months ago

"a landslide majority of Kansans know better and do not agree with you."

33 million people also bought Alanis Morissette's "Jagged Little Pill"; that doesn't make them right.

jafs 2 years, 4 months ago

Well, we had a 12-13% turnout in Douglas County in this primary.

And, Brownback was elected by a little over 1/3 of the eligible voters in KS.

Where's that "landslide majority" exactly?

rtwngr 2 years, 4 months ago

How do you know it will be disastrous. Maybe if we quit taxing and spending, ala democrat and moderate republican, more businesses would flourish, the tax base would broaden and there would be more money for education and social programs. We can't continue to spend what we don't have, bozo! (Very appropriate name at this point.)

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

"How do you know it will be disastrous."

Just watch and see-- not that I think you have the honesty to acknowledge that you're wrong once the sheet hits the fan.

somedude20 2 years, 4 months ago

We are all trapped in the same building that is on fire with no way out. Sooner or later, you will get burned as well, just like this cancerous administration will infect us all. Unless you do not value your health, your money and your kid's future, no one won.....

rtwngr 2 years, 4 months ago

Do you mind if I use you as a human shield?

somedude20 2 years, 4 months ago

from being in a burning building? don't that will work all too well for ya

Carmalee Winebrinner 2 years, 4 months ago

That's all well and good, but WHAT DO WE DO HERE ON EARTH???

pinecreek 2 years, 4 months ago

It is a shame that the outcome of this election won't be obvious for one or two generations. The good news--taxes will be lower for those that make high incomes and can benefit from the result. The bad news--we can fight Mississippi and Louisiana for the bottom of the education-achievement tables. Yayyy us!!

chootspa 2 years, 4 months ago

And yet the single biggest predictor of school success, private or public, is socioeconomic status. I guess rich kids are better at reciting Marx than the poor kids are.

Carmalee Winebrinner 2 years, 4 months ago

Isn't it convenient that his wife works for Brownback? They don't have to send secret emails, they can just talk to each other every night!

Alceste 2 years, 4 months ago

Gee......why aren't ANY of them addressing the RAPING of the public each of these legislators are doing relative to their KPERS funded retirement??? They all seem to agree about that issue. Paul Davis don't return emails; Ballard don't return emails; Holland don't return emails, etc., etc., etc. All the legislature did this last session was change the fact they don't work 372 days a year!!!! Instead, they reduced their work year to 365 days!!!!! And they're paid for every single one of them days when it comes to retirement time:

Even though they only really "earn" for a couple of months of the year, they get credit for earning it all year long.

For the legislator listing all income - the daily rate, subsistence and allowance - this is how annualization is calculated:

•$88.66 (daily rate) x 31 (days) x 12 (months) = $32,981.52

•$123 (subsistence) x 31 (days) x 12 (months) = $45,756

•$7,083 non-session allowance.

Altogether, that equals $85,820.52, and that's the pay figure that would be used for that legislator retiring now.

Now then, that political hack who is president of the Kansas hillbilly senate or whatever the operation is has defended this obscene payout because legilsators work for "...so little money....". Ok....if that is the case, why aren't all civil servants for the state of Kansas allowed to have their KPERS benefit calculated on a 372 day work year?

In calendar year 2010, employer contributions for legislators in KPERS slightly topped $900,000.

A legislator retiring with an annualized pay of $85,820.52, and with 10 years' service, would have an annual KPERS benefit of $15,018.60, for a monthly benefit of $1,251.55, according to KPERS. If the retiring legislator had 20 years' service, the annual benefit would be $30,037.20, and monthly, $2,503.10.

A state social services worker in a supervisory role retired in 1995 after 15 years and draws a monthly KPERS benefit of $524. That is equal to the monthly benefit for a county-level commercial appraiser who retired at 65, vested at nine years with KPERS.

It's for the children, you know. shrug

Moderates? SPIT They're all hacks and crooks for paying themselves like this.....throw the bums out or al least let each one of them explain why they work harder than anyone else in the KPERS pension plan. 365 day work year indeed. Fess up you bunch of greedy galoots!!

situveux1 2 years, 4 months ago

According to the AP, so called moderate Republicans, along with the AFL-CIO and other unions, outspent the Chamber, AFP and conservatives by a 3 to 1 margin. Interesting that Scott attempts to make it look like it was money that bought these election results rather than voters making an informed decision.

jafs 2 years, 4 months ago

You also have to include the vast amounts that were spent by other groups to influence the elections.

Thanks to CU.

headdoctor 2 years, 4 months ago

This primary doesn't really mean squat unless the only ones running in their district were Republicans fighting among themselves. There may not be much hope for Kansas in the short term since many are stuck on this insanity of us against them. It is just more examples of people voting for things that are not in their own best interest. Pretty sad that the left over NeoCons and NeoLiberals have riddled the Republican party. Seems to me that the Modern Democrats are closer to the old Republicans than the Republicans are.

KSWingman 2 years, 4 months ago

"It is just more examples of people voting for things that are not in their own best interest."

Tell me, oh wise one. What are my self-interests?

Liberty275 2 years, 4 months ago

More government to give you lots of free stuff, of course. Seriously, how do you not know getting free stuff is in your best interest? Please get with the program. You should sell your vote for a handful of welfare. Nevermind you'll need to pay for all the free stuff with taxes. You can just stop working and live the life of a 99% ows bum.

Your self-interest is being a bum. Now go vote for a democrat. Rah rah rah.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

Nobody is asking for free stuff-- sane people fully expect that government expenditures will be paid for through taxes. And that taxation will be done in a progressive manner, which recognizes that capitalism has the inherent effect of concentrating wealth into the hands of the few in ways that are generally not commensurate with effort or productivity.

Liberty275 2 years, 4 months ago

"Nobody is asking for free stuff"

When the T supports itself through fares and the library is paid for by book rental, get back with us.

question4u 2 years, 4 months ago

What a bunch of whiners! American democracy was founded on the principle that the wealthy should be able to use their enormous monetary resources to try to influence elections. If you think that American government should be "of the people, by the people, for the people" rather than of the people, by the people, for the people who possess the greatest wealth then you're a whiner. Lincoln was obviously a sap. He must have been naive enough to think that the founding fathers wanted everyone to have an equal opportunity to determine the outcome of elections. That idea is just un-American. if you don't believe that the wealthy should be able to further their own interests through expensive smear campaigns, then you're just a whiner. It goes without saying that you're a whiner if you don't believe that the Koch brothers have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in the last few weeks out of a selfless desire to make life easier for little old you. If you suspect that the Koch's might just want to manipulate voters for their own interests then you're a liberal whiner.

You're even a worse whiner if you think that Kansas shouldn't risk its future on an "experiment" that is projected by nonpartisan experts to create a multi-billion-dollar deficit in five years. If you're not willing to trust Sam Brownback's judgment just because his predictions about NEA funding turned out to be dead wrong and his rejection of federal funding to begin implementation of heath care changes looks as though it will prove to be a very costly mistake, then you're a whiner.

If you don't believe that candidates with no experience will turn out to be much smarter than those who have served Republican interests in the legislature for 20 years, then you're a whiner. Can there really be people who think that experienced Republican politicians might actually be justified in their fears that an extremist right-wing agenda could prove catastrophic for Kansas? That would be like believing that scientists haven't just made up their data about evolution and global warming (though not quite as foolish as believing that Obama was actually born in the United States).

If you're not willing to cast caution to the wind, plunge the state into an experiment that no previous Kansas government has even considered, and take on faith the idea that prosperity will come by eliminating a huge percentage of state revenues, then you're just a hopeless whiner. Get with the program! Shut your eyes and cheer, because Flim-Flam Sam is going to make everything great. Listen to the sages on this very web page. Once you quit insisting on reason and facts, then you can quit whining and start celebrating.

rtwngr 2 years, 4 months ago

"You're even a worse whiner if you think that Kansas shouldn't risk its future on an "experiment" that is projected by nonpartisan experts to create a multi-billion-dollar deficit in five years."

We already had the deficit, genius. The only answer the moderate republicans and democrats had was, "We need to raise taxes." Forget cutting spending anywhere. As far as the "non-partisan" findings. I don't buy it. These findings were put together by somebody and I believe that somebody had a bias. I don't believe that Governor Brownback's team looked at the same information, came up with the same answer and said, "What the heck. Let's go ahead with it because the Koch brothers will love us." No, the information put out by your "non-partisan" group was biased and built upon wrong conclusions. Echoing similar sentiment, you're welcome to move. Try Illinois, I heard they're looking for more taxpayers just like you.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

"The only answer the moderate republicans and democrats had was, "We need to raise taxes.""

This is flat-out wrong. There have been those who have called for rescinding some ill-advised tax cuts that caused past funding shortfalls, but what moderate Democrats and Republicans have been objecting to are further massive tax cuts in the last term that will without a doubt lead to massive funding shortfalls within the next couple of years.

MarcoPogo 2 years, 4 months ago

Is that supposed to be a catchphrase? Good luck with that.

Dan Eyler 2 years, 4 months ago

Paul Davis mentioned that republicans ran on fear and misleading the voter. The part about misleading the voter started January 1st, 2009. After four years and no hope for change, Kansas has decided to veer to the right now heading in a different direction. A majority in our state are not going to follow our president over the cliff. We're not overly receptive of republicans who were thinking about joining the suicide pack over the edge. That was made pretty clear in the primary elections Tuesday. Those republicans who went along with all of the government spending over the past 25 years nearly bankrupting the state, and need to politely exit the stage now. Thank you for your service and I honestly mean that, it's a hard job. Less government sounds very refreshing right now. Less taxes, business growth and jobs is what Kansas wants. The President and the democrats have no solution except growing the government as the only means to create jobs and raising taxes on small businesses to pay for it. Republicans were going along for the ride and Kansas decided we've had enough. Come November the point will be made clear regardless of what happens in Washington DC. Kansans need to put on their thinking hats and get creative about job and economic growth with stability in the private sector because the Kansas state government wont be the place to look for a job. In the new world market Kansas has some of the best resources and people available to move our state into a much better position for job growth and exports. The Kansas legislature had no leadership for getting us there. The voting booth took care of that.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

Psychologically, working and middle class Republicans, the ones who support the current austerity hysteria, anyway, must be very similar to people who are cutters. They despise themselves so much that they engage in self-mutiliation.

rtwngr 2 years, 4 months ago

To borrow a lib line, "Do you want to go back to the failed policies of the past 25 years?" Tell us all, bozo, what do you know about self-mutilation? Is there any other analogies you would like to draw to yourself?

Liberty275 2 years, 4 months ago

No. I don't want your stuff and I don't want to give you mine. How can you not understand that?

labmonkey 2 years, 4 months ago

Dear Kansas Democrats asking moderate Republicans for help... Gov. Kathy screwed that up for you when she dined with Tiller and later went all out for Obama and his healthcare plan. Many moderates don't want to be fooled again and will vote for conservatives in the general election since they are the lesser of the evils.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

Allow me to elaborate then. Citing anything that Sebelius did is ancient history and has no effect whatsoever on how this moderate Republican will vote. Citing Tiller is telling; I bet you were just all giddy about his murder, and the glee from the birther crowd after his murder will be what I remember. It and the present-day activities of Brownback and Koch, Inc. will influence me far more.

Richard Heckler 2 years, 4 months ago

Democrats ask moderate Republicans, independents to join their cause = a very smart concept.

My fiscal conservative republican father in law did exactly that in Pennsylvania. For more than 50 years he was with the once fiscal conservative/socially responsible republican party. In fact he still considers himself a fiscal conservative republican.

The GOP walked away from him is his response. There is no longer a GOP much less a fiscal conservative GOP.

Where is the fiscal conservative in this reckless spending?

Republicans in Name Only is what Brownback brought back to Kansas from the beltway. This is definitely RINO activity no question about it.

In the end RINO big debt and super duper bailouts were the results which does not seem to bother RINO's, as long as they are in power.

In fact, by the time the second Bush left office, the national debt had grown to $12.1 trillion.

Over half of that amount had been created by Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy.

Another 30% of the national debt had been created by the tax cuts for the wealthy under Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush.

Fully 81% of the national debt was created by just these three Republican Presidents. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2010/0111orr.html

Richard Heckler 2 years, 4 months ago

Conservatives represent narrow minded one party thinking and reckless spending to achieve their libertarian Tea party objectives. Nothing fiscal conservative about these thinkers.

How do we know verify the reckless spending? Look at the money spent to unseat fiscally responsible moderate representatives that actually represent the majority.

The majority voters need to return to the voting booths in order to save our states and our country. Don't let the mean nasty campaigns without substance keep voters away for that is the objective of mean nasty campaigns built on misinformation.

There is nothing fiscal conservative about wiping out public education, state government or constantly cutting taxes to benefit the few at the expense of the middle class and the upper middle class.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

Funny thing, though. Republicans may actually need moderates - on both sides of the aisle- come this fall. We'll see what we can do for them then, but no promises, okay?

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

Remember, as we learned from the zealots yesterday, there are no shades of gray. Either you are a lockstep conservative Republican or you are a Socialist ~ or Communist (doesn't matter which, you know what you are). The cleansing of the Socialists from the party was just what they think the country needs from head to toe ~ even if some of these folks have dedicated their lives to public service and have committed decades of effort to their party, who now rejects them because they have the gall to question Brownback and Koch's official party line.

tomatogrower 2 years, 4 months ago

We have had and still have, for now, a society that has made it possible for people like the Kochs to become very wealthy, but now they want to change it. And the Tea Party people don't even question their motives for wanting that change. Born Again American's initials are BAA for a reason.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

Quoting from above: "Show us just how Brownback is pro-school, pro-woman and pro-middle class. Show us the legislation. Put up or shut up."

Oh, and "pro-woman" doesn't mean making all her decisions for her.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

Was that supposed to be a response to my request? No envy here, and there's no "King Obama" in my world. You're conversing with a lifelong Republican who's never admired Obama. But don't take that as blind support to whatever crackpot ideas the conservatives try to force on us all. So again, how is Brownback 'pro-woman'?

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

But only if they vote correctly. Best keep the little woman at home otherwise, becuause the elders would object then.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

So in other words.... you got nuttin'. Tell me about restricting access to contraception. I understand that some of the conservatives think that's a good thing.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

You did nothing but make ideologically based assertions.

Carmalee Winebrinner 2 years, 4 months ago

Brownback and his puppetmasters see Kansas as their own personal fiefdom.

They don't want to pay for ANYTHING AT ALL. And thanks to Brownback, they got their wish.

What our state NEEDS is to treat everyone-man or woman, as if they are intelligent enough to decide their own destiny, and leave them alone to do so, while still being there to give a hand up if needed. What our state NEEDS is the freedom to create intelligence through good public schools that don't cost $3,000+ per semester, so our business people can have good workers to employ and so our children don't need remedial education in order to qualify for a college education.

What our state NEEDS is the freedom to build good roads, so those businesses have roads to ship their products on.

We can't earn those things. We can only decide that the small price each of us pay in taxes is worth every penny.

The Brownback administration and the Koch Brothers don't think it's worth the effort to give people a helping hand. I DO.

Liberty275 2 years, 4 months ago

"Oh, and "pro-woman" doesn't mean making all her decisions for her."

Should a woman be able to decide to work as a prostitute?

Kate Rogge 2 years, 4 months ago

Koch money, which is John Birch Society in origin and political intent, continues to buy Kansas politicians and Kansas elections. And to what end? To create a single Bircher viewpoint by overriding and eliminating those not on board for political Armageddon. Moderate Republican state senators and state representatives represent their moderate Republican constituencies. With the Kochs in charge of our state politics, moderates no longer have any voice or representation. Kansas is now a body farm for hard right extremists.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

We've had so many good ideas come up here lately on how to court moderates on both sides of the aisle I thought I'd start a list.

  • Start by identifying them as Communist or Socialist, as this is clearly the fact if they don't agree with you.
  • Remind them how they've failed the gods of conservatism by straying from the "party line".
  • Accuse any detractors of being freeloaders / welfare mooches / drags on society.
  • Remind them that there is no compromise when we're talking good and evil.
  • Be sure to invoke your faith upon them and recoil in disgust if there's resistance.
  • Whenever possible, gloat.

With these winning strategies in hand there's no doubt that moderates from both sides of the aisle will be gleefully running to support whatever their party dictates to them.

chootspa 2 years, 4 months ago

But contrary to conventional wisdom and conservative rhetoric, Obama didn’t start the fire and, in fact, has done more than recent presidents to contain the blaze. I briefly mentioned this in yesterday’s post on the new Crossroads GPS commercial, but the simple fact is that Obama has run a shockingly cost-sensitive administration. Writing for MarketWatch, a project of the Wall Street Journal, Rex Nutting found that government spending has slowed dramatically under the Obama administration. From fiscal year 2010 to the present, government spending — including the stimulus bill — has risen at a 1.4 percent annualized pace, slower than at any time since the 1950s. For those who value fiscal responsibility, Obama is better than any of the past four presidents

From a conservative newspaper source. Doh! http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/the-myth-of-obamas-spending-binge/2012/05/23/gJQA7biTkU_blog.html

chootspa 2 years, 4 months ago

No. It can't be a lie. There are pictures and numbers, and it's all shiny and stuff!

oldbaldguy 2 years, 4 months ago

We will just have to see won't we. What does the Democratic Party offer to the people of Kansas? Without more participation in the process, as in at the local party level, this is what you get. Folks who have an agenda that prosecute it. How did Lynn Jenkins get elected in the first place? I have not met anybody who is going to vote for her, at least that is what they say. Many are Republicans.

headdoctor 2 years, 4 months ago

I have no clue how Jenkins made into office. I would have thought her popularity as a Holton cheerleader would have worn off by adulthood. No matter. She is Kansas very own version of Michele Bachmann........Minus a bit of the bat guano crazy.

Daniel Waters 2 years, 4 months ago

Is this an editorial? It's a joke to me that this is supposed to pass for real journalism. "dumped untold amounts of money on mailers" How about presenting some real data or facts rather than just throwing out a statement you think will tickle the ears of those that agree with you.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 4 months ago

William F. Buckley, Jr., has been quoted as saying "Conservatives pride themselves on resisting change, which is as it should be. But intelligent deference to tradition and stability can evolve into intellectual sloth and moral fanaticism, as when conservatives simply decline to look up from dogma because the effort to raise their heads and reconsider is too great." But because Bill talked and dressed kinda funny, he must've been a Commie. I just know it!

yourworstnightmare 2 years, 4 months ago

While it might not seem so now, the downfall of the modern right wing populist conservatives will be their anti-intellectualism, ant-elitism, and stubborn resistance to reality.

These are great characteristics to win elections, but even the Koch brothers will soon become tired of this rhetoric when they no longer have use for it.

The Kochs, like many corporate leaders, are intellectuals and elitists. Corporate fat cats. Either the right wing populists will figure this out (doubtful), or the Kochs will toss them aside when they are no longer useful to them (already happening in many ways).

headdoctor 2 years, 4 months ago

There are not that many true intellectuals and the Koch brothers aren't part of that small group. What we have is a bunch of pseudo-intellectuals. The Koch brothers are spending millions trying to do what their dad realized couldn't be done in a way that would have a positive turn out.

HutchSaltHawk 2 years, 4 months ago

Regardless of the labels, Kansans need to pick a side - for or against Brownback/Koch Brothers. The Dems can't find this battle alone, and if we want to save the state from regressing about 60 years, we need to stand together.

cowboy 2 years, 4 months ago

In a couple years when the deficits start rolling up , republican relatives , disabled , and the aged , are denied health care services , the school budgets are decimated , your local property taxes have increased by double digits , your roads are crumbling , there will be only one party to blame.

headdoctor 2 years, 4 months ago

Sageonpage says, "Oh and we are to believe that no PAC or outside of KS group sent money to the 'Moderates'? Seems like yellow journalism again..."

You and those who follow Rothschild around like a puppy dog wouldn't know real Yellow Journalism if it bit you on the butt. Your twisted monthly rag, books, letters and posts are closer to Yellow Journalism than anything Rothschild does. Of course most of the modern Republicans don't have much taste for the truth. I think Fox News is more your speed.

headdoctor 2 years, 4 months ago

No, but my bird sure enjoys your work.

Getaroom 2 years, 4 months ago

This entire conversation, most often a yelling match, is reminiscent of the civil war days. The Tea Party is busy with their unbending extremism and are attempting to walk the Nation back to the good 'ol days of slavery, a time when life was simple and most people were uneducated, The United States of Rich with GOD on their side! Civil Wars always end up being run by Oligarchs. Unless you are wildly wealthy already, you are just going to be a servant, a servant to the wealthy, serving their needs, wants and desires because that is all the work left to do. The Tea Party is scurrying around all worried about the Muslim Brotherhood infiltrating the BIG GOV, the one they already purport to hate, nonsense birther issues, and apparently an unending list of reasons to get rid of the The Black President. All the while the US Military harbors in it's ranks a "small number of racist skin heads" who are actually practicing right under their noses. But oh my GOD, gotta get rid of the gays, they are ruining our military.

Well, I suppose President Obama will remain President even after all this insane extremest behavior and then what will you do. Continue to Not show up to vote, it's the American way, gripe about who is running the country, even though you know who they are and why they are doing it? Money talks louder than words and there is lot's of it for the few, elections are bought and sold like the stock futures, life goes on. Take profits now, use up the resources and to hell with the rest of you! The Republican Way of Life. Oh ya, and get free stuff that's what it's all about, as long as it is not from the pocket of a Republican because they pulled themselves by the booth straps and did it all by themselves and the Free Market. GOD loves only the Devout Republicans, so stop groveling and stand up like a Man and get back to work! Workin' for the Man, because who else is there to work and stop complaining you got a job don't you? Have a good laugh?

yourworstnightmare 2 years, 4 months ago

Is the ghost-writer a self-involved navel-gazer? Then, yes!

headdoctor 2 years, 4 months ago

I doubt it. Just a SNAFU of the forum program. I had problems a moment ago.

Armstrong 2 years, 4 months ago

Life in the bubble. It must be hard for the left leaners finding out how far removed they really are from reality.

headdoctor 2 years, 4 months ago

How about this for a dose of reality. Imagine what your life would be like when all your spoiled brat baby boomer politician heroes die off or if all the Gen X and younger generations finally figure out they have the voting power to oust all the power hungry wrinkled butts.

Armstrong 2 years, 4 months ago

By then they will have become republiccans. When school is over and reality of life sets in they will realize how bogus the D philosphy is.

headdoctor 2 years, 4 months ago

Your post, Armstrong, just shows how removed you are from reality. The Generation X and a good share of the Generation Y have already left school and life has set in. They are not ignorant. They know that the boomers have hung them out to dry. You may be waiting a long time for them to come around to the modern Republican party. If I were you I wouldn't expect a bumper crop of new NeoCons anytime soon.

Katara 2 years, 4 months ago

Can you tell us exactly what the Boomers left for the remaining generations other than overwhelming debt and gutted infrastructure?

Hell, they are even selling their own parents down the river. Who do you think is most affected by cuts in social programs?

Hint: the extreme elderly

Katara 2 years, 4 months ago

Try to keep up. That isn't even remotely along the lines of anything I said.

But here, I'll rephrase it so that your ideologically addled mind can process it.

When you pursue policies (as the Boomers have done in the last decade or so) that cut social programs and gut the nation's infrastructure, you hurt the extreme elderly (i.e. the Boomers' parents) the most as they are the ones most relient on them.

Talk about honoring thy father and thy mother...

Katara 2 years, 4 months ago

Try to keep up. You aren't even close to what I said.

Here, I'll rephrase it so your ideologically addled brain can process it.

When you pursue policies (as the Boomers have for the last decade or so) that cut social programs and gut infrastructure, you hurt the extreme elderly (i.e. Boomers' parents) the most as they are the ones who rely most on those.

Talk about honoring thy mother and thy father....

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 4 months ago

"Can you tell us exactly what the Boomers left for the remaining generations other than overwhelming debt and gutted infrastructure?"

Trying to blame where we are on a generation is pretty silly.

Sure, many millions of "boomers" are guilty of following the path of mindless consumerism, militarism and heartless, inhumane business practices (things largely learned from their parents.)

But there are also millions of "boomers" who followed very different paths, establishing movements promoting peace, environmentalism, sustainability and civil rights for all. And they're still working at it. And these are paths for which there were few role models in previous generations.

Katara 2 years, 4 months ago

Your post made me chuckle. You attempt to chide me for blaming a generation when you turn around and do exactly the same.

Movements of promoting peace, environmentalism, sustainability and civil rights for all have existed since the establishment of our country. Typical Boomer arrogance in that you somehow created those things. There are a lot of role models in previous generations for them too. There are a lot of role models not only in previous US generations for them but worldwide.

And those millions of boomers who pursued such "special" paths certainly did not affect much change as future generations are saddled with overwhelming debt and are being left with a gutted infrastructure.

But as long as your generation got yours, screw the others. The Boomers are known as the "Me" Generation for a good reason.

Armstrong 2 years, 4 months ago

Stay in the bubble baby, you're safe there

globehead 2 years, 4 months ago

Unfortunately, even if BOTH moderate republicans in this state voted with the democrats, it wouldn't be enough.

headdoctor 2 years, 4 months ago

Perhaps not. When you combine the moderates and independents that also contain a lot of women and minorities then mix in the Western half of Kansas voters who realize what is happening to their lives under Brownback's plan and you may end up with a different outcome. Maybe not this election but there is always next time. Brownback and company have made it very obvious that many of the registered Republicans are not welcome in their party. Brownback may actually find out the silent majority isn't made up of the people he thinks.

globehead 2 years, 4 months ago

Nice thought, but I see no indication from Western Kansas of dissatisfaction with Brownback. I'm surprised they haven't named their churches after him.

headdoctor 2 years, 4 months ago

Those from Western Kansas that I have heard from are not happy with Brownback. However, if the majority of them still support his cause in November and again when he is up for re-election then they can all celebrate living in their very own private waste land.

Richard Heckler 2 years, 4 months ago

Republican economic policy makes buying homes a huge risk as a long term investment

They have established this risk under Reagan/Bush and Bush/Cheney which of course is easily documented.

It is these two administrations that brought the USA frauds that effectively took down home values substantially.

Why isn't the democratic party reminding voters,taxpayers and homeowners of this monster risk? Sweeping matters under the rug will not protect homeowners and new buyers.

Brownback and other Kansas delegates were in the beltway. Did they warn their constituents of the coming financial disaster?

It was fraud and republican politics not the housing market that destroyed an all American long term investment.

Richard Heckler 2 years, 4 months ago

In the wake of continued efforts to bar Planned Parenthood federal funding, we are proud to share the following statement of support from Republicans for Women's Health:

For over 95 years, Planned Parenthood has made vital health care and education available to millions of American families. As a specialist in women’s health, Planned Parenthood provides vital sexual and reproductive health services to nearly three million patients every year at nearly 800 health centers nationwide.

One in five American women has received care from a Planned Parenthood health center during her lifetime, and for many Americans, Planned Parenthood’s doctors and nurses are the only health care providers they see. An essential community provider of lifesaving primary and preventive care, Planned Parenthood represents the very best of traditional Republican values — which is why so many Planned Parenthood health centers were founded by Republicans years ago.

Republicans for Women's Health are proud to support this vital American institution, which safeguards women’s rights to control their reproductive health and destinies from government interference, and provides necessary care that enables women to plan their families and lead productive lives.

STAND WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD

Republicans for Planned Parenthood is dedicated to the preservation of individual rights and reproductive freedom. We believe our nation is best served by policies that support family planning and a woman's right to choose, and we actively support Planned Parenthood as a critical health care service provider, especially for women and young people worldwide.

The Republican Party was founded on a commitment to individual liberty and freedom. The party has a proud history of defending individual rights — from fighting to end slavery and working to secure equal protection and voting rights for African Americans, to leading the way in achieving women’s suffrage.

http://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/get-involved/republicans-740.htm

Katara 2 years, 4 months ago

Wow. It isn't enough for you to presume to speak for what women want but now you have to presume to speak for what female fetuses want.

Richard Heckler 2 years, 4 months ago

In the early 1980s, under Reagan, regulatory changes took place that gave the S&L industry new powers and for the first time in history measures were taken to increase the profitability of S&Ls at the expense of promoting home ownership.

What is important to note about the S&L scandal is that it was the largest theft in the history of the world and US tax payers are who was robbed.

The problems occurred in the Savings and Loan industry as they relate to theft because the industry was deregulated under the Reagan/Bush administration and restrictions were eased on the industry so much that abuse and misuse of funds became easy, rampant, and went unchecked.

There are several ways in which the Bush family plays into the Savings and Loan scandal, which involves not only many members of the Bush family but also many other politicians that are still in office and still part of the Bush Jr. administration today.

Jeb Bush, George Bush Sr., and his son Neil Bush have all been implicated in the Savings and Loan Scandal, which cost American tax payers over $1.4 TRILLION dollars (note that this is about one quarter of our national debt).

Between 1981 and 1989, when George Bush finally announced that there was a Savings and Loan Crisis to the world, the Reagan/Bush administration worked to cover up Savings and Loan problems by reducing the number and depth of examinations required of S&Ls as well as attacking political opponents who were sounding early alarms about the S&L industry. Industry insiders were aware of significant S&L problems as early 1986 that they felt would require a bailout.

This information was kept from the media until after Bush had won the 1988 elections.

Jeb Bush defaulted on a $4.56 million loan from Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, Florida. After federal regulators closed the S&L, the office building that Jeb used the $4.56 million to finance was reappraised by the regulators at $500,000, which Bush and his partners paid.

The taxpayers had to pay back the remaining 4 million plus dollars.In the early 1980s, under Reagan, regulatory changes took place that gave the S&L industry new powers and for the first time in history measures were taken to increase the profitability of S&Ls at the expense of promoting home ownership.

Bush/Cheney did a magnificent repeat performance of robbing taxpayers,putting millions more out work,out of medical insurance and billed taxpayers trillions of dollars for the Bush/Cheney admin monitor the largest fraud scheme in the history of the USA.

Who can afford another republican administration?

Richard Heckler 2 years, 4 months ago

Paul Davis/Anthony Hensley where are you?

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