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Who has Romney’s ear on immigration, Kobach or Rubio?

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach says he and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio can work together to help presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney formulate an immigration policy, despite their differences.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach says he and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio can work together to help presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney formulate an immigration policy, despite their differences.

April 23, 2012


— Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach on Monday said he and U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., who share greatly different ideas about immigration policy, can work together to elect presumptive Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

"I think he (Romney) can embrace both of us and go merrily along to win the election in November," Kobach said.

The political relationship between Kobach, a Republican and national advocate for strong anti- illegal immigration laws, and Romney, who veered right during the primaries but now is trying to court Hispanic voters in the race against President Barack Obama, has been the subject of speculation in recent weeks in the national media.

On Monday, Romney was campaigning in Pennsylvania with Rubio, who has been mentioned as a possible vice presidential running mate and has recently announced that he is forming a proposal that would help some undocumented immigrants to stay in the country legally.

Earlier this year, Kobach announced his endorsement of Romney and said he was an unpaid adviser to the candidate on immigration issues. Kobach has said he was the source of Romney's view that the answer to illegal immigration was "self deportation" through the passage of controversial laws that Kobach has helped write in Arizona and Alabama.

When Kobach announced his support of Romney, the former Massachusetts governor had high praise for the Kansan. "With Kris on the team, I look forward to working with him to take forceful steps to curtail illegal immigration and to support states like South Carolina and Arizona that are stepping forward to address this problem," Romney said.

On Monday, Kobach said his role with the Romney campaign hasn't changed, describing himself as an "informal adviser."

Kobach said from time to time he sends Romney's campaign officials emails on developments in immigration policies and offers his advice. "He can either take my advice or reject it," Kobach said.

Meanwhile, Rubio has said he wants to craft a plan that would allow some young undocumented immigrants to stay in the country legally but deny them citizenship. Kobach said he could not evaluate the proposal until he sees specifics. Romney has declined to endorse Rubio's proposal.


Hooligan_016 6 years ago

I really hate it that Kansas and Arizona are constantly mentioned in the same breath >_<

"We have to be more like Texas! Florida! and Arizona!"

uuuughhhh ...

Brittanicus 6 years ago

In a new Reuters-Ipsos opinion poll ( not exclusively a rightist newspaper) found about 70 percent of those surveyed favored state laws that let police check a person's immigration status and make it a crime for an illegal immigrant to work in the United States; about 30 percent opposed such measures. WHAT MORE PROOF DOES THIS ADMINISTRATION WANT? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS COSTLY TRAVESTY? This week the Supreme Court will hear Arizona vs. United States and if its policing statutes go against this small defenseless border state, the American voter must push, pursue and use the severe pressure of the vote to verbally intimidate every Republican, Democrat and Liberal to get the “THE LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT” in front of the House, before taxpayers suffer any more at the hands of corrupt politicians who have sold us into financial slavery.

Repeating that special visas should be expedited for top professionals in Science, Engineering, and a whole range of high technology, given us the brain power for a futuristic U.S, but we must spend the money to check on females who are carrying an unborn infant, with new detection systems at entry ports, as 400.000 arrivals are ready to conceive annually and then apply for welfare. Just calculate the uncompensated cost to hospitals that have to pay for these deliveries, that are then passed on to taxpayers? By the Congress just amending the Birthright Citizenship Act of 2011 (H.R.140) the country could discontinue this billion dollar soaking of individual states? Don’t know who to call in Washington, and then phone 202-224-3121 the switchboard that will connect you with your Representative? Every prudential contender would be well advised to read the immigration sullen statistics advanced by “The Heritage Foundation” Can we afford 2.5 Trillion dollars to legitimize the 20 million plus Illegal’s who have settled here? That is what the Heritage Foundation has forecasts. Not all Tea Partier’s have excellent grades as found on the American patrol site, that not only covers the illegal alien issue, but a daily helping of the e-media from the National press, but anything that is against “the Rule of law’ and the sovereignty of this nation, constantly broken by Obama people.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years ago

I'm curious.

How many sites do you spam with this stuff? Are they all just copy and paste, as this appears to be? What key words do you search for to find articles to spam?

Jimo 5 years, 12 months ago

Why do you feel the need to plagiarize word by word?

deec 5 years, 12 months ago

It is pretty funny. I googled "In a new Reuters-Ipsos opinion poll ( not exclusively a rightist ne" and got 441,000 hits. The first page seems to be mostly news site comment sections, although I didn't actually click the links. Do these people get a daily email with today's script, or do they have to just copy from a daily designated blogger?

Brian Laird 6 years ago

I think this depends upon which quantum state Romney collapses to when you ask him this question.

Steve Jacob 6 years ago

Romney is very anti-immigration, let's not deny it. And Rubio is a horrible VP pick because Romney needs a tea party type. Courting independents does no good when the conservatives stay home election day.

chootspa 6 years ago

Rubio is a tea party darling. They think he'll bring Latinos in, but really he won't. He's comparatively less anti immigration than Kobach, but that's really not a hard comparison.

KS 6 years ago

I hardly think the conservatives will stay home on election day. They dislike Obama more.

chootspa 5 years, 12 months ago

Of course they won't. Lucky for Obama, the majority of voters aren't conservatives.

1southernjayhawk 5 years, 12 months ago

I don't think they will stay at home. They are terribly concerned about the state of this country and, especially, where it is headed under Obama.

1southernjayhawk 5 years, 12 months ago

Obama makes bush look like george washington.

ebyrdstarr 6 years ago

Sure, 'cause the most corrupt sheriff in the country would lend Romney some credibility here. Being linked to Arpaio has so far only cost one County Attorney his law license and one legislator his seat in a recall. And, of course, Arpaio himself has been under a federal investigation for years now and, according to one source, is within about 30 days of an indictment. So, yeah, we should all definitely look to that guy.

Flap Doodle 6 years ago

Speaking of illegal aliens, how many relatives of the dog-eating tyrant are still in America illegally? Just a round number will do. ( ... from ... a ... source ...)

Orwell 5 years, 12 months ago

Pretty hard to say. Objectively, though, there have been more illegals deported annually since 1/20/09 than during Dubya's administration.

Sorry, but sometimes facts get in the way of the hatemongers' convenient falsehoods.

Steve Jacob 6 years ago

"Kobach said from time to time he sends Romney's campaign officials emails on developments in immigration policies and offers his advice. "He can either take my advice or reject it," Kobach said."

That means Romney does not want to be seen with Kobach.

Scott Tichenor 6 years ago

I won't deny the face Etch-A-Sketch is an intelligent business man. Proof of that is he didn't pay Kobach for advice. But Kobach thinking he's going to become a bigger player on the tails of Etch, dream on. Etch is already running from Kobach in fear of alienating almost every voter in the country, oh, except for Kansas and Arizona.

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Michael LoBurgio 6 years ago

Kris Kobach Our moonlighting secretary of state

The secretary of state, like many other public officials, is required to file a Statement of Substantial Interests. It lists the firms and organizations that have paid the secretary in addition to his $86,000 a year salary.

The list is very interesting and raises once again the ethics of pursuing two careers – as secretary of state and as an immigration attorney. It appears implausible that Kobach could have worked only on nights and weekends for these extracurricular activities, as he has suggested.

As I noted in a recent column, Kobach was alleged to have made $100,000, while secretary of state, as part of his involvement with Farmers Branch, Texas. The Federation of American Immigration Reform hired him to author an anti-immigration ordinance, according to the past mayor pro tem of that city.

But thanks to the Statement of Substantial Interests, filed in April 2011, we know of 10 others who have paid Kobach recently. Each represents income to Kobach of no less than $2,000.

Read more here:

JackMcKee 6 years ago

I feel sorry for anyone that listens to Kobach.

Scott Tichenor 5 years, 12 months ago

You, my friend, are sorely lacking facts. Alberto Gonzales holds the claim on not only being corrupt and not representing the interests of U.S. citizens and the Constitution, but he was woefully unprepared to assume the position. He's toxic to the Republican Party, as is his former boss.

ebyrdstarr 5 years, 12 months ago

You know that's not true, right? The idea that today's liberals have gone crazy far left? Statistically speaking the trend is clear that conservatives have moved to the right, much farther to the right than even Reagan while Democrats in general have drifted more to the center and the far left have not drifted at all.

Sorry if actual facts get in the way of a good anti-liberal rant.

Paul R Getto 5 years, 12 months ago

"But today's [liberals/conservatives] way to the [left/right] of the spectrum and full of hatred for [success/the poor] (who make them successful), self-sufficiency, cheap energy and in general The American Dream are about as repulsive as repulsive can be." ===
Here ya go. Turned it into an all-purpose rant. BTW: "Conservatives" are not all bad either. I'm not much on labels, but if forced would call myself pretty conservative financially. As for the other "smaller government" types who want to be in everyone's bedroom and doctor's office, they are not conservatives in my book. Shanti.

Patricia Davis 5 years, 12 months ago

I agree with you. I believe in a sound financial policy but I am liberal on social issues. I am a native Oklahoman so I have gotten a double whammy of social conservatism spewed at me. But two of the funniest comments I've read lately were in the Oklahoma City newspaper: Conservatives want small government. So small they can stick it in my vagina. And the best: If I wanted government in my vagina, I'd F@#! a congressman.

I don't think the rebellion has reached a critical mass, but I am always looking for signs of life which usually starts when people can look at this ridiculous ultra right ring social conservatism and laugh it...and then make a vow to change it.

Armstrong 5 years, 12 months ago

Yeah, yeah we know. Everyone disagreeing with you is wrong blah blah blah. Hopey changey blah blah

camper 5 years, 12 months ago

Romney should call on Ted Nugent for advice on this.

Alex Parker 5 years, 12 months ago

Kobach made these comments during a press conference. He and Rubio are two high-profile politicians associated with the Romney campaign; both have distinct views on how to tackle immigration. Many other news stories have been written about this issue in recent days, including by the Washington Post, Politico, the Guardian and the Capital-Journal.

Mike Ford 5 years, 12 months ago

Rubio is a peninsulare. A Latin American social class term I learned in Survey of Latin America 20 years ago at Washburn University. Peninsulares are the top of the economic food chain in Central and South America exploiting everyone below them. No wonder Mr. Rubio is in the GOP. What the peninsulares have done historically in Central and South America makes the exploitative wishes of the GOP here pale in comparion. The encomienda and and peonage system where people can hardly escape their economic bondage and rise almost sounds like flipping burgers, no insurance, and Wally World here. Some of the people who left places like Venezuela, Bolivia, and Cuba left because they could no longer exploit the people below them and their property they got from exploitation of others was redistributed by the leaders who stood up to the wealthy peninsulares and the military who mostly sides with the old guard. Mr. Rubio and the GOP have a major issue with the indigenous Hispanic population that gets targeted by the GOP with all of these Juan Crow laws. It's funny when a lazy state like Alabama that had slave labor before the US Civil War because their White population wouldn't do the work and now they have these crazy immigration laws where most of their migrant field workers rolled out and no White person there will step in to do the work and foreign executives from Mercedes Benz and Hyundai who opened plants in Alabama due to bribery from Jeff Sessions and Richard Shelby get asked for their papers leaving their auto plants. Alabama....GOP brilliance????

Mike Ford 5 years, 12 months ago

actually you're oblivious to the point being made here because you chose to have your head in the sand to try pathetically to call people like me racist when your political party is wholly unable to undue the mess it's made and choosing a minority who says all the right things to keep White GOP voters happy at the expense of the people you've offended and scapegoated. Cluelessness does not win an do you win arguements going the dumb route? oh that's right.....the gop has done this since 1980? welfare cadillacs....check.......willie horton.....check.....lee atwater....check.....the gop has won elections going dumb and let facts go awry...... 2012 is no different.....except Obama will win again.

Mike Ford 5 years, 12 months ago

here's the definition of what I stated:

In the colonial caste system of Spanish America, a peninsular (Spanish pronunciation: [peninsuˈlar], pl. peninsulares) was a Spanish-born Spaniard or mainland Spaniard residing in the New World, as opposed to a person of full Spanish descent born in the Americas or Philippines (known as criollos). The word "peninsular" makes reference to the Iberian Peninsula where Spain is located.

Offices of the Americas and Philippines were held by peninsulares. Apart from the distinction of peninsulares from criollos, the castas system distinguished also mestizos (of mixed Spanish and Amerindian ancestry), mulatos (of mixed Spanish and black ancestry), indios, zambos (mixed Amerindian and black ancestry) and finally blacks. In some places and times, such as during the wars of independence, peninsulares were called deprecatively godos (for the "Visigoths," who had ruled Spain), or in Mexico, gachupines or gauchos.[citation needed]

Colonial officials at the highest levels arrived from Spain to fulfill their duty to govern Spanish colonies in Latin America. Often, the peninsulares had large quantities of land. They defended Cádiz's monopoly on trade, upsetting the criollos, who turned to contraband with British and French colonies, especially in areas away from the main ports of call for the Flota de Indias. They worked to preserve Spanish power and acted as agents of patrol, in certain cases.

In colonial social hierarchy, the peninsulares were nominally at the top, followed by criollos, who developed a fully entrenched powerful local aristocracy during the seventeenth and eighteenth century. In the French Revolution, the peninsulares were generally conservative.

gotta love that conservative bit at the end basically meaning they were willing to exploit their own people much as the gop tries to do here.

William Weissbeck 5 years, 12 months ago

This is easy - Romney will not be seen on the same stage as Kobach except in the deepest of Red states. Kobach will not be in Florida and he will not give any public speeches at the convention. Romney has been running for president since 2007 and he still doesn't have an immigration policy. Makes 3 years of no Democratic budget seem small by comparison. Romeny is against in-state tuition if he has to put down Rick Perry, but then he's for non-legal residents getting a college education so that they can become a class of permanent resident non-citizens.

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