How fortunate, we Kansans, to be blessed with a public official not only able to detect a problem with a magnitude of the negative fifth order but then willing to go the distance to effect sweeping changes to remedy the situation.

Good citizen that I am, I submitted my Federal and State tax returns earlier this week, faithfully rendering my calculations to the sixth decimal place, confident that, one day, all those fractions will add up to the lucky penny which will tip my entry upward to the next full dollar, thus transforming the State economy.

Cait48: "If you truly believe in democracy... then you would be for free and open elections with as many eligible voters voting as possible and as few barriers placed to that exercise as possible. "

That's as logical as saying that if you truly believe in parenting, then you should support as many people as possible having as many babies as possible. If one can support parenting while holding that it would be better if some people did not have kids, then it is possible to be a democrat (small d) while holding that it would be better for the majority if some people did not vote.

As Chesterton said, self-government is like tying your own tie and writing your own love notes: a thing that people ought to do themselves even if they do it poorly. It does not follow that your tie will look any better if everyone gives an opinion on how it ought to be tied.

I find it to be quite humorous that the leftist on this forum kick and stomp and scream about voter ID laws but don't seem to care about 4000 new IRS agents breathing down our necks. That DRD4 gene is oooone crazy gene I'm tellin' ya'! Why would it occur to me? I don't know why, because anything coming out of The Anointed One's white house is perfectly OK with the left. Even droning Yemen into smithereens. Even the lefties that cry and moan about the GOP's so-called monopoly on corporate money and Mitt Romney's wealth and bla bla bla and they don't care about or seem to care (or even know about) this:

"George Soros‘ Democracy Alliance, an invitation-only club for billionaire leftist political donors, has decided to drown Democrats and President Obama’s re-election campaign in an ocean of cash this year. Democracy Alliance, founded in 2005, is a financial clearinghouse that recommends to its wealthy members projects and groups aimed at transforming America into a European-style socialist state. The secretive group has directed untold hundreds of millions of dollars to left-of-center causes.

For those unfamiliar with Mr. Soros, he is the pre-eminent funder of the left in the United States. He openly favors American decline and has said European-style socialism “is exactly what we need now.” The radical, anti-American philanthropist praises China effusively, saying the totalitarian nation has “a better-functioning government than the United States.” Mr. Soros already has begun doling out funds for Democrats. In the 2012 cycle, he has given a modest $203,500, but that number promises to rise exponentially."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/5/left-vs-left/

cait48: "Your superciliousness and oily faux "concern" make me want to go shower. "

Then go shower. I never said I was concerned, in quotes or not. I said I treat people equally.

There was a time in this country when a white person taking a voting test would always pass, while a black person's test consisted of "Guess how many beans are in that jar." Amazingly, the number was never what the person guessed.

That's discrimination, and it's with that I am concerned. Rules that treat everyone the same are not something that bothers me in the least, even if they take a little effort to follow.

Mr. Kobach,

Let's start with some of your friends. I want to see proof that Sen. Ray Merrick, Rep. Mike Kiegerl, and Rep. Mario Goico are citizens. Have they ever shown the actual documents proving they became citizens of the United States? And I don't mean copies - not even certified copies - I want to see the originals. And not only that but I think we should be able to question the person who allegedly administered the oath to those three. They weren't born in this country by their own admission. So let's see the proof or let's see them out of office.

And as for Kobach...That name is not American enough for me. And what American would spell Chris with a K? He's probably not a citizen. I want his papers as well. And I want the long form, not some phony certified copy of the short form. In fact, I want him to provide every voter with those documents and I want them NOW. Otherwise take your unAmerican backside and go back where you came from, Mr. Kobach. Or is it Herr Kobach?

Reading "tuschakahouma" complex conversations.... I retract my 18-20:26 statement, "Critics" pigeonholing is not "nice".

I can now see "Critics" concerns and reasons for pigeonholing. "Critics" stereotypes may be necessary to augment their arguments and discontent for "life" in general, but, the "pigeonholed" do need guidance.

Maybe buses like the "M-T" could ferry the "pigeonholed" to voting stations. Keep them organized and together so they don't get lost. "Wandering off" is an issue.

Photo ID's could be pinned to their outer garments.

2000-2007: UFO sightings (32,229), Deaths by lightning (352), Possible cases of voter impersonation (9)

http://craigconnects.org/voter-protection-infographic

"He said if the proof-of-citizenship rule is not in place in June, 'We've missed an opportunity to keep our voter rolls white.'"

Fixed it for you.

Critics contend such a requirement will suppress turnout, particularly among student, poor, minority and elderly voters.

Why do the "Critics", think so "little" of these wide range of people stereotypes, that they can't prove who they are? What are the "reasons" for treating people this way "Critics"? Pidgeonholing people is not nice.

Let The People come! Let The People Vote. Accept all anchor babies!

give me your tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send me the homeless, the tempest-tost. I lift my lamp beside the golden door. (From memory, memorized along with the pledge of alleg.)

Remember the Kansas GOP Purity Tests????!!!!

Remember the Kansas GOP Purity tests!

OH No, more KOBACH PURITY TESTS!!

Born and reared here, never once moved out of the state, while all other siblings have.

But since the Religious Rite is my sworn enemy, I am sure Kobach will find a way for me NOT to pass the Kansas Citizen Purity Test.

Kobach is like Neo-Nazi, seems like these days, IMHO. He is just like the power-mongers in Germany way back when. Just like them!! The Patriot ACT is included in the Nazi-like behavior. Hell, if Kobach has his way, we may well indeed be speaking German soon.

BTW, NEVER ever trust someone who is charismatic, like Kobach. Chances are they have a drinking problem.

"rockchalk1977 (anonymous) says… Let's just have the New Black Panthers stand in front of our neighborhood polling places to scare off the illegals...."

Still obsessed with the New Black Panthers? Never in recorded history has the sight of two black guys caused more scared old white guys to piddle themselves. Pathetic.

Kobach has made a name for himself. Here's a couple of articles from the Guardian newspaper in the UK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/17/mitt-romney-campaign-immigration-adviser?INTCMP=SRCH

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/24/kris-kobach-immigration-law-mastermind?INTCMP=SRCH

Hopefully those will work. If not, go to www.guardian.co.uk and search for Kobach.

Kobach is getting an international reputation. I don't know if these articles were in the printed Guardian or just appeared in the website.

Point is that Kobach needs Kansas to follow his plan if he's to retain the "dark lord of the anti-illegal immigration movement" status. If he can't convince the locals of his plans, how can he sell his 'snake oil' to other States.

Going after illegal voters is worse than trying to find the needle in a haystack. No sane illegal will walk into a courthouse to sign an affidavit giving his / her name, address and identifying information to the government. Only thing that would draw more attention to their situation would be to put up a neon sign in their window stating that "Illegals live here".

I have met many legal and illegal residents in Lawrence. Those who were legal were proud to vote WHEN they had obtained citizenship. On the other hand, illegals had no interest whatsoever in voting or participating in the political process. They simply didn't have the desire or the time. The only time they'd show up at a voting location would be if they were part of the cleaning crew or making a delivery.

Kobach's whole effort is a sham to reduce voting numbers.

How will it keep the voter rolls clean?

What about the thousands of illegals all ready registered? You can't tell me the Illuminati hasn't been infiltrating the voter polls since 2010. So what if we have a hard and fast date before November, the knife is already there and at our throats.

No, the safer thing is to wipe the entire slate clean, magnetize teh hard drive and start over from scratch. Force -everyone- to re-register a week before the election with new,freshly printed ID cards containing proving documents imbedded in thier microchips. Biannual voter poll purgings will assure that the rolls stay clean between election cycles. Short of active duty military, absentee ballots will be a thing of the past. If it is important enough to vote, it is important enough to vote in person to prove you are who you say you are.

Its time to clean it up, Kansas.

"Kobach argues that the rule, which aims to keep illegal immigrants from registering to vote...."

What an absurd rationale. Illegal immigrants are here for one reason--to be able to work and survive. They could care less about whom the voters of Kansas elect to state and national offices. More importantly, they avoid all unnecessary contact with government employees and officials for fear of having their illegal status discovered and being deported. Can someone please explain to me why an illegal immigrant would risk being discovered and deported simply to vote. Hell, over half of the registered voters don't even exercise their right to vote. Why makes an illegal so anxious to cast a vote when the majority of Americans realize that it is an exercise in futility.

The stated rationale, or rather, the excuse for the law is merely a subterfuge to hide the real motive: to suppress people who might have a difficult time complying with the new law, as those folks generally vote democratic.

It's not a coincidence that every legislator or public official who has sponsored similar legislation throughout the country belongs to the republican party.

Watched "V" the other night. I see more and more of it in Kansas. The Guv is Sutler and Kobach is Creedy.

Where is a reference for the bill? Someone post that, please.

As a note, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals nixed Arizona's law.

"The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Tuesday that an Arizona proposition requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote was in conflict with the National Voter Registration Act but upheld a portion of the constitutional amendment which requires a form of photo identification at the polls." (http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/9th-circuit-nixes-arizonas-proof-of-citizenship-requirement)

So far Kobach has cost other states a lot of money. Now he wants to defend his law and spend the $500 bil surplus Kansas has.

@rc1977. Say something new and germane, and quit bringing out old attempts at fear mongering.

Let's just have the New Black Panthers stand in front of our neighborhood polling places to scare off the illegals.

We already know Attorney General Eric Holder will reject claims of voter intimidation. Keep hope alive!

I thought Republicans wanted to keep the big bad government out of their lives? But, I guess that doesn't apply to voting, abortion, what substances you choose to put in your body, the gender of who you marry, where muslims can worship, what language you speak, to push their religious beliefs in to science class, etc, etc, etc. For the party that wants to minimize the influence of government, they sure like to use it to push their agenda. What's next Mr. Kobach? A polling tax? How about "colored" polling places?

What the GOP doesn't realize is that these type of laws are seen to be aimed at latino immigrants (remember Arizona?). That's going to cost them BIG in November.