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Obama: Reagan couldn’t survive in GOP today

April 3, 2012

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— In combative campaign form, President Barack Obama accused Republican leaders on Tuesday of becoming so radical and dangerously rigid that even the late Ronald Reagan, one of their most cherished heroes, could not win a GOP primary if he were running today.

Obama, in a stinging speech to an audience of news executives, had unsparing words for Republicans on Capitol Hill as well as the man he is most likely to face off against in November, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. The president depicted the election as a choice between a Democratic candidate who wants to use government to help people succeed and Republicans who would abandon a basic compact with society and let most people struggle at the expense of the rich.

He framed his address around a new House Republican budget plan, saying it represents a bleak, backward “radical vision.”

“It is thinly veiled social Darwinism,” Obama said to the annual meeting of The Associated Press. “It is antithetical to our entire history as a land of opportunity and upward mobility for everybody who’s willing to work for it. ... It is a prescription for decline.”

Republicans shot back that the president had offered a deeply partisan speech devoid of accountability.

Campaigning outside Milwaukee just before Obama spoke, Romney said that the president “of course will look for someone else to blame.” The Republican Party chairman, Reince Priebus, said Obama had abandoned his hope-and-change campaign slogan of four years ago. Said Priebus: “All along, he’s been a cold, calculating, big-spending politician.”

Obama’s speech removed any doubt that the general election was under way for the president, despite his professed reluctance to weigh in before Republicans settle on a nominee.

He took a couple of digs at Romney, playing up the Republican presidential front-runner’s support for a budget-slashing plan the House has approved.

That plan is doomed to die in the Senate, but Obama held it up as a sign of the disaster that would come if Republicans got their way: poor children not getting food, grandparents unable to afford nursing homes, more airline flights getting canceled and weather forecasts becoming less reliable.

By invoking Reagan, a beloved Republican, Obama sought to take GOP charges of Obama extremism and turn them back on the party. He cited a presidential debate in the current campaign in which the entire field of Republican candidates rejected the idea of $10 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax hikes if that were offered in a debt-reduction deal.

“Ronald Reagan, who, as I recall, is not accused of being a tax-and-spend socialist, understood repeatedly that when the deficit started to get out of control — that for him to make a deal — he would have to propose both spending cuts and tax increases,” Obama said. “He could not get through a Republican primary today.”

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cato_the_elder 2 years, 8 months ago

As has been observed before, Obama became Jimmy Carter faster than Jimmy Carter became Jimmy Carter.

Liberty275 2 years, 8 months ago

I don't remember Carter being a bald-faced liar. Carter was just inept as president, but rather good at helping build cheap houses. I predict Obama will get a job selling used cars at a buy-here-pay-here lot when he leaves office.

camper 2 years, 8 months ago

I love it. The word Carter is so engrained in some people's minds as a bad president. Inflation was high no doubt. So was oil. Before we start criticizing Carter, look up Arthur F. Burns (he was the Fed Chairman appointed by Nixon).

Kirk Larson 2 years, 8 months ago

Read Francis Fanon. Oppressed people must always know more about their oppressors than the oppressors know about them. Just as a survival mechanism.

Kirk Larson 2 years, 8 months ago

I'm sure his mother probably gave him "the talk".

Flap Doodle 2 years, 8 months ago

In other political news: "Felony charges related to election fraud have touched the 2008 race for the highest office in the land. Prosecutors in South Bend, Ind., filed charges Monday against four St. Joseph County Democratic officials and deputies as part of a multiple-felony case involving the alleged forging of Democratic presidential primary petitions in the 2008 election, which put then-candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on the Indiana ballot. The officials are accused of taking part in a scheme to fake signatures and names on the primary petitions needed to run for president. Court papers say the plan was hatched by local Democratic Party officials inside the local party headquarters..." http://www.jammiewf.com/2012/indiana-democrats-charged-with-felony-election-fraud/ Remember, the Democrats would have you believe that a little election fraud never hurt anyone.

gudpoynt 2 years, 8 months ago

To think... Obama and Clinton being on the ballot all came down to the actions of a few unscrupulous Dem party officials in St. Joseph County, IN.

Then again, you could just be intellectually challenged.

jafs 2 years, 8 months ago

So, I'd be very interested to hear what people think of the $1/$10 ratio of tax increases to spending cuts.

Seems like a reasonably good idea to me - why would people oppose it?

chootspa 2 years, 8 months ago

Because King Norquist deemed it to be unworthy of his blessings.

jafs 2 years, 8 months ago

Makes sense.

It's interesting that nobody has answered my question, though, isn't it?

Fossick 2 years, 8 months ago

I'd be for it, so long as the cuts came first, trending ahead by a year so there would be no funny business. What happens in reality is that as soon as the cuts look like they are going to happen, some GOP Presidential nominee says:

"The Congress is not bound by this," Sen. John McCain said last month. "It's something we passed. We can reverse it." http://money.cnn.com/2011/11/04/news/economy/super_committee_failure/

And they do.

camper 2 years, 8 months ago

Becaus that is socialism. Maybe even communism. Class warfare too.

BigDog 2 years, 8 months ago

On the other hand .... John F. Kennedy couldn't survive in the Democratic party of today. It was a much more moderate party then. People forget that Kennedy was the first President to cut taxes to stimulate the economy.

chootspa 2 years, 8 months ago

Kennedy advocated changing the then 91% top marginal tax rate to "a more reasonable 65%" He was demonstrably Keynesian in his approach to economics. You're right that he wouldn't survive the current Democratic party, but not because he was too conservative for it.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2011/01/26/the-myth-of-jfk-as-supply-side-tax-cutter

scott3460 2 years, 8 months ago

Other than killing Osaka bin laden, saving the auto industry, passing health care legislation preventing exclusion for preexisting conditions and improving the disastrous economy left by bush and the right wingers. Other than that, yeah, he's got nothin

chootspa 2 years, 8 months ago

Even if he didn't have some positives to brag about, "I'm not Romney" is probably enough.

camper 2 years, 8 months ago

I can't recall President Obama being a liar. Can you point us to some examples?

Richard Heckler 2 years, 8 months ago

The Reagan administration opened the doors big time to deregulation which stimulated massive leveraged buyouts,mergers and hostile takeovers all of which brought on massive lay offs.

Those laid off workers then watched their jobs go abroad largely to Communist China.

What about this:

ENTITLEMENT - Bailing out The Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist aka home loan scandal sent the economy out the window costing taxpayers many many $$ trillions (Cost taxpayers $1.4 trillion), Plus millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm

and Iran Contra?

Flap Doodle 2 years, 8 months ago

You're copy/pasting from your own copy/pasting?

jonas_opines 2 years, 8 months ago

Whatever you think about Obama, what he said here is also true.

/as evidenced by the fact that the thread is filled with rants about Obama, rather than what he actually said here. . . .

akuna 2 years, 8 months ago

This is the most salient point made in this discuss. Most everything else is FoxNewsy Troll Bait.

gudpoynt 2 years, 8 months ago

I'm partly responsible for saving the American auto industry?

I'm partly responsible for seeing marked improvements in econimic growth only 3 years after the largest decline in the last 80?

I'm partly responsible for tens of thousands being able to get health coverage who were previously denied by private insurance?

I'm partly responsible for moving toward a far more measured foreign policy, that seeks to leverage the resources of our allies, as apposed to taking the texas-cowboy-guns-a-blazing approach?

Sweet!

gudpoynt 2 years, 8 months ago

1) The US auto industry is stronger with GM in it, and GM wouldn't be in it today if it weren't for assistance from the fed gov't.

2) Unemployment is headed in the right direction. Economists agree that every month brings more and more positive signs. (Unless of course those Economists are pundits on F-news).

3) S&P lowering the credit rating was the direct result of Teapublican inaction in congress. Wow... did you really just try to attribute this to the Obama administration who fought so hard to prevent it from happening by raising the debt ceiling against the stubborn Teapublicans? Good try. I guess.

4) Price of gas? Really? Obama controlls gas prices?

5) Obamacare is unconstitutional? Oh... you mean the mandate which was a Republican idea, and used as a mechanism of comprimise away from the public option. Right. Unconstitutional. Very well. I suppose I, like you, shouldn't take any pride in a law that helps tens of thousands of people get health care who otherwise wouldn't have it. Because I, like you, should see things as black and white.

6) I am totally OK with the US standing for more Israli accountability when it comes to making peace with the Palestines. What's wrong with that?

7) I'm totally OK with Egypt holding a democratic, undetermined, non-Mubarek presidential election. What's wrong with that?

Your case is dumb.

patkindle 2 years, 8 months ago

is this a great country or what ? Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured.... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen.”

gudpoynt 2 years, 8 months ago

its_just_math demonstrates the predominate disposition of today's incompetent, right-wing blowhards when he even suggests that the comments made in the above article are akin to "all hell break[ing] loose with a fury", and meanwhile defends the Fox News talking heads who say things like "Did Obama Campaign Threaten Chelsea Clinton's Life 2 Keep Parents Silent?".

Math, let me spell it out for you clearly, since you are clearly incapable of coming to this conclusion on your own -- there is no basis for comparison whatsoever, between anything Obama has said, and the diatribe of unprofessional drivel that comes out of fox "news".

Linda Endicott 2 years, 8 months ago

Nah...but I'll take some Starbursts...ought to be a good show...kind of like watching the Keystone Cops...

Kirk Larson 2 years, 8 months ago

Just lay off the Skittles or you'll get shot.

jonas_opines 2 years, 8 months ago

"The Flexible Obama, once elected in this year, will be dictator for life."

Funny, I'm almost positive that you wrote that very same thing, in your blog, back in 2008. Under a different username, of course. I seem to recall you predicting that it would happen by late 2009 at the very latest.

bad_dog 2 years, 8 months ago

Ah, Michael Savage the voice of reason, paragon of logical analysis and master of calm, persuasive argumentation.

More crocks from the wnd potters, that's all.

camper 2 years, 8 months ago

Is Savage still supporting Herman Cain? He was really big on him during the holidays.

gudpoynt 2 years, 8 months ago

if ever there was validation of nutjobbery, it is calling in to the Michal Savage show and having him "run with" one of your ideas.

akuna 2 years, 8 months ago

Always trust a news organization that sues for the right to lie. That's my motto.

Theres_DOH_Place_Like_Kansas 2 years, 8 months ago

Ya know, watching Willard Romnoid and Paul Ryan stand side-by-side, Williard's a striking resemblence to C3PO (robotic head and rapid eye movement) and Ryan, a 2012 Eddie Munster, look-a-like.

Flap Doodle 2 years, 8 months ago

Reagan knew the purpose for the existence of the Supreme Court. The Mope, not so much.

Flap Doodle 2 years, 8 months ago

Not so much, but thanks for playing. Better luck next time.

Fossick 2 years, 8 months ago

Just words (and probably not his anyway) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H...

If Reagan's experience taught anything, it was that when you "propose both spending cuts and tax increases," you get the latter and and almost never the former. Not that it matters what party is in power - the GOP is just as happy to spend as the Dems.

Governor RepublicanHair RomneyCare does not offer that much of a difference from the current occupant of the White House. Therefore expect the campaign to be all the more bitter for its lack of substance.

jayhawklawrence 2 years, 8 months ago

It will be interesting who Romney chooses as his VP running mate.

How will he satisfy the right wing base and still be able to attract Independents?

I doubt if it will be a Palin type choice but you never know with the Republicans. This will be the most important decision of Romney's poltical career.

I think somebody like Ryan would be the kiss of death.

It should be fun to watch.

Mike Ford 2 years, 8 months ago

Obama never had Iran-Contra, Obama never had a chickenhawk pretend war like Grenada that spawned all of the non military service cowards like Cheney and Gingerich. Obama never suggested ketchup was a vegetable. Obama never raised taxes yet reagan did. Obama got Osama Bin Laden while Reagan didn't get Khadafi and Lockerbie happened. Obama never had the Savings and Loan scandal or Charles Keating or John McCain. Reagan signed the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act in 1988 making tribal casinos legal. No racist tea partier would do anything like this. David Stockman, a member of the Reagan cabinet has called supply side economics a disaster and called this current crop of dimwits and yet these dimwits won't let reality get in the way.

Flap Doodle 2 years, 8 months ago

You're doing much better with your punctuation, tuschie. You ... been ... taking ... lessons?

Flap Doodle 2 years, 8 months ago

In other "who would survive" news: "..Just a week after he copped a plea in a drunken-driving rap, President Obama’s illegal-alien uncle has landed a hardship driver’s license from the Registry of Motor Vehicles, making it perfectly legal for him to drive in Massachusetts — even though the feds say he doesn’t belong here. Onyango Obama, 67, who lost his regular license for 45 days last week, scored his limited license yesterday from the Registry’s Wilmington branch, after convincing a hearing officer that life without wheels would have posed an undue hardship on his livelihood as a liquor-store manager. Obama bolstered his case with a letter from his employer, Conti Liquors, as well as proof that he’d enrolled in an alcohol-treatment program. …The license award drew fire from one advocate of tough enforcement on illegals, Bristol County Sheriff Thomas Hodgson. “Our democracy is predicated on law,” Hodgson said. “When we start to interpret these laws differently and manipulate them the way we want them to work for certain people, we start to send a mixed message to people that the law doesn’t really matter. Its subject to interpretation. You don’t have to follow the law. They find ways to justify it. We need the laws to be very clear. We need ‘no’ to mean ‘no’ again.”..." http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/04/good-news-obamas-illegal-immigrant-uncle-is-getting-his-drivers-license-back/

Flap Doodle 2 years, 8 months ago

Disappointed progressives are all about pushing fictional narratives. obs is a prime example.

Mike Ford 2 years, 8 months ago

ever notice how conservatives ignore facts and make issue of punctuation? You can't handle facts. You're like Sarah Palin ducking real questions due to no intelligence whatsoever and then blaming the lamestream media. The lamestream media isn't the one without a clue....sarah and the watering down to the dummy levels people are without a clue.

Mike Ford 2 years, 8 months ago

kennewick man may be used by a pathetic arguement baiting conservative and his grave robbing white scientists but the laugher is on the dumb conservative that doesn't realize his side lost and kennewick man was reburied at the wishes of said tribes by the corps of engineers. you lost loser.

Jim Phillips 2 years, 8 months ago

As much as it pains me to do so, I do have to agree that Reagan probably could not get a nomination with today's GOP namby-pamby leadership. After we assist Obama in moving out of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. in January , maybe we should consider ousting the Centrist "Republicans" from the helm of the GOP.

I know I'll get heat from the Libs/Progressives/Obamanoids about this because they won't like it. That makes me happy.

Mike Ford 2 years, 8 months ago

half of this country is too homophobic, minority phobic, reasoning phobic, and probably morman phobic to back mr romney so keep dreaming. besides you always have the crooks who brought us gore v bush to assure us of your theft capabilities. as I have the dimwits on here assailing me with firewater, peyote, and kennewick man to remind of this court's most efficient manner of legalizing legal miscarriage of law against the First People here. Be proud of your ignorance... you're amerikun....

usnsnp 2 years, 8 months ago

Talking of no skin in the game, how about all the politicians pushing to go to war with Iran, how many of them have any skin in the game. Of the Republicans that are running or tryed to run for the nominationm only one ever served in the military (Ron Paul), only one has any children in the military (Huntsman). Of course the Democrats are no diffrent. If a republican gets elected president we will probably be at war within 6 months with someone. One more thing howmany of the population of the United States has any skin in the game when it comes to war 1%.

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