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Immigration experts meeting at KU criticize Kobach’s laws

October 13, 2011

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Immigration experts on Thursday criticized laws in Alabama and Arizona that were co-authored by Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach. But Kobach said the controversial anti-illegal immigration measures were working.

“People are self-deporting,” Kobach said. “People are picking up and leaving.”

But Benjamin Johnson, executive director of the American Immigration Council, said the Arizona and Alabama laws were resulting in police racial profiling.

Alberto Cardenas Jr., an immigration attorney from Houston, said having individual states adopt immigration laws was counterproductive to forming a rational federal law.

“The solution has to come at the federal level,” Cardenas said. He added, “We have to look at this issue as a human one.”

Jeanette Hernandez Prenger of Kansas City, Mo., and vice chair of the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, said some of the consequences of the new Alabama law would be higher food prices because farmers in Alabama were having trouble finding people to harvest crops.

Their comments came during the Immigration and the Kansas Economy conference sponsored by the Kansas University Institute for Policy and Social Research and held at the Union.

Kobach, a Republican elected secretary of state last year, has been a national leader in writing tough anti-illegal immigration laws in various states and cities.

He helped write the controversial SB 1070 in Arizona and, more recently, the law cracking down on illegal immigration in Alabama.

Hispanic advocates and some business groups have said the Alabama law is causing panic and many undocumented workers are fleeing the state. The American Subcontractors Association said even legal workers are leaving because they may have a family member in the country illegally.

Last month, a federal judge upheld parts of the law that authorizes police to detain people suspected of being in the country illegally. Other provisions require public schools to determine the legal residency of children.

Kobach said the law is working as planned. “You are encouraging people to comply with the law,” he said. He said he has heard that U.S. citizens are lining up for jobs at an Alabama meat-packing plant where illegal workers are leaving.

Kobach argued that illegal immigrants are a drain on the national economy because of the welfare and education services they use.

But Cardenas and Johnson said the United States needs immigrants and if all undocumented workers left, the economy would fall into a tailspin. Cardenas noted that when a meat-packing plant in southwest Kansas was destroyed by fire several years ago, it was local leaders — not immigrants — who pleaded with the company to rebuild.

Earlier in the conference, James Hawkins, chief of the Garden City Police Department, said if Kansas adopted a law, similar to the ones in Alabama and Arizona that require police to check on immigration status, it would hurt his officers’ ability to enforce the law.

“It would really confound local law enforcement,” he said.

Garden City is home to several large immigrant groups and Hawkins said police work hard to communicate with them and gain their trust in order to investigate crimes.

Kobach disagreed with Hawkins and said it was possible that an Arizona- or Alabama-type law would be considered next year by the Kansas Legislature.

Comments

atiopatioo 2 years, 6 months ago

Lawbreakers are lawbreakers. It is beyond me why some people try to make lawbreakers sound like family people wih children that need special care. Special attention. Special rules that allow them to be all they can be. If they are brown, which is racist to designate people by color, they get special treatment.

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beatrice 2 years, 6 months ago

“People are self-deporting,” Kobach said. “People are picking up and leaving.” ...

... Arizona and Alabama for places like Kansas and Missouri.

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camper 2 years, 6 months ago

Ok maybe I'm not quite speechless. Why is this guy taking credit? Many illegal immigrants are going because of the economy. Especially because of the lower demand for construction. Many are simply folding there cards. The last thing on their minds is the guy in the picture of this article header.

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camper 2 years, 6 months ago

"People are self-deporting,” Kobach said. “People are picking up and leaving.”

I'm speechless on this quote. Except maybe I can say that at some point we should think of ourselves as humans, all god's children perhaps. That quote above does seem mean-spirited.

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MarcyDarcy 2 years, 6 months ago

Are you tired of paying for illegals, education, healtcare, Food stamps, crime investigation.. etc? Go to this website and register. Google this: NUMBERSUSA . Once you are registered, go to the "action buffet" to send free faxes to your state representative. They are all typed up and ready to go, you just need to click your mouse to send.

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BornAgainAmerican 2 years, 6 months ago

What the libs don't get is that illegals soak up tremendous amounts of tax dollars through medical care, education and benefits. In california alone (2004) illegal immigrants cost that state over $10 Billion dollars. Just how cheap is your food anyway?

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm

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SnakeFist 2 years, 6 months ago

The conservative's "follow the law" reflects an intermediate stage of moral development, while the liberal's "do what is right" reflects the highest stage of moral development. Following the law is not always the same as doing what is right. Just ask Rosa Parks.

Being in the country illegally is a misdemeanor; its not as though we don't have more dangerous and harmful criminals to focus on. More importantly, illegal workers - who make less than minimum wage, get no benefits, aren't unionized (conservatives ought to like that), and cost their employers fewer taxes than legal workers - help to keep the cost of produce and other products low for us.

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ljreader 2 years, 6 months ago

O look- seems Americans will take these jobs. From the New York Times, regarding Alabama's law- http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/04/us/after-ruling-hispanics-flee-an-alabama-town.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2&ref=us

"Mr. Orr said there were already signs that the law was working, pointing out that the work-release center in Decatur, about 50 miles to the northwest, was not so long ago unable to find jobs for inmates with poultry processors or home manufacturers. Since the law was enacted in June, he said, the center has been placing more and more inmates in these jobs, now more than 150 a day.

On Monday morning, one of the poultry processing plants in Albertville had a job fair, attracting an enormous crowd, a mix of Hispanic, black and white job-seekers, lining up outside the plant and down the street. "

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autie 2 years, 6 months ago

Looks to me like the federal circuit courts are taking a dim view of Mr. Kobach's racist application of "law". He is right up there with Phill Kline (Klown)....Kline Klown; Kobach Klown.....must have shared test in law school.

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Ray Parker 2 years, 6 months ago

The USofA has been naturalizing and granting permanent legal resident status to over a million immigrants each year. Illegal immigration will ruin our ability to absorb immigrants. The new restrictions in Alabama were beginning to work, illegal aliens were beginning to abandon public schools and some of the jobs they had taken from American citizens. Enforce the new immigration restrictions. Build the dang fence. Run 'em out.

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MarcyDarcy 2 years, 6 months ago

Are you tired of paying for illegals, education, healtcare, Food stamps, crime investigation.. etc? Go to this website and register. Google this: NUMBERSUSA . Once you are registered, go to the "action buffet" to send free faxes to your state representative. They are all typed up and ready to go, you just need to click your mouse to send.

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pigballin 2 years, 6 months ago

LJW,, it is about illegal immigration. That should be the headline...A miss leading newspaper that has an agenda? The law is against illegal immigration...Don't you believe in up holding the law of the land?

Or is this another time to bash Kobach?

Raiding the KU and hIgh school students of jobs,,dorks?

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TongiJayhawk 2 years, 6 months ago

I call Bullsh*t, when they offer enough money, people will work! Quit crying about the price of food going up! Maybe we shouldn't have been taking advantage of the illegals to keep the food prices down! You don't think those lower prices are made up for when you figure in educating and providing healthcare to these folks? Or maybe we should let them take over all the auto workers and other union jobs so we can get cheaper cars, etc!

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jaketh 2 years, 6 months ago

Lets start with illegals being sent home. Farmers in Western Kansas, Wyoming, California, Texas, Colorado & Alabama cannot find worker to pick their crops, vegetables & fruit. If that is case, be prepared for higher inflation & food prices. Each household will suffer even more. Recession will be even more tougher. Don't get caught up in the whirlwind.

Here is one instance from a farmer in Colorado. He is trying to do the right thing by hiring 25 local American workers. He paid them $11.25/hour, a fair living wage. 24 quit on the first day by lunch time. Only 1 stayed on the job & because he was the truck driver & not on onion picker.

The work ethic of American worker is not there anymore. Today's American workers are not the battle hardened Grand pas & mas of the Depression Era or the WWII Era. Essentially, American workers or kids have it way too easy so they have no reason to work. They are LAZY face it. Wake up & smell the coffee. It is easy to blame illegal for our own inefficiences. They are a easy scape goat. Its time for introspection.

Do we see a Latino/Mexican hanging around the soup kitchens on 10th & Vermont or pan handling on Mass St? NO. They work. They work 2-3 jobs. They work the menial jobs that no American workers want to do. They are not taking American jobs. Everyone needs to watch the movie, "A Day without Mexican." If American workers worked as hard as illegals, we would never have a Recession.

All of who who eat food, vegetables, fruit, sleep in hotels, drive on roads, eat at restaurants, eat meat is a damn hypocrite. WHO do you think cut your beef steak, chicken breast, pork chop? WHO cleaned your hotel room & plates? WHO built your house or the roads? http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/us/farmers-strain-to-hire-american-workers-in-place-of-migrant-labor.html?_r=2&hp

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felixiscariot 2 years, 6 months ago

easy solution: Make Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California become their own country and let them worry about the border

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its_just_math 2 years, 6 months ago

Good thing the far-left have plenty of GOP'rs to hate now right in their own backyard, especially since they have to deflect from their savior.

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kernal 2 years, 6 months ago

Somehow, I've never heard of U.S. citizens beating down the doors for the menial labor jobs the Mexican illegal immigrants have "taken away" from U.S. citizens.

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gudpoynt 2 years, 6 months ago

Come to think of it, what really happens when a Republican goes on unemployment?

I mean, we have something like near 20% actual unemployment now, right? Surely a big hunk of those are (or once were) Republicans, right? Once they become unemployed, what happens?

Do they refuse unemployment on principle?

Do they continue on with their right-wing political identity, while living in a state of denial about the government handout they are taking?

Or do the more honest of them acknowledge the betrayal of their political identity and hate themselves for it?

Or do they simply renounce the right-wing political identity?

Surely one could not both accept unemployment while maintaining the right-wing political identity without the blatant hypocrisy causing some serious cognitive dissonance.

Any unemployed Republicans who subscribe (or once subscribed) to the Fox News political identity out there have an answer to this?

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gudpoynt 2 years, 6 months ago

Suppose the Republicans get their way, and most undocumented workers leave the country.

Then suppose Republicans get thier way some more, reducing and limiting the availability of unemployment.

Suppose these two actions result in millions of formerly jobless Americans filling the void left by undocumented workers. And suppose that a significant portion of these people were Republican.

Would that be enough for Republicans to start arguing for a higher minimum wage?

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Brittanicus 2 years, 6 months ago

These reluctant politicians must be shown no peace, by our calls and free faxes, compliments of NumbersUSA. Contact Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-OH); House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA); House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) ; House Chairman of Ways & Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI); & Members of the Ways & Means Committee. You can additionally contact your own local Senator or Representative or federal politician at 202-224-3121 and insist on E-Verify. NEBRASKA, Rep. Berg, Rick (GOP) (202-225-2611) ; NEBRASKA, Rep. Smith, Adrian (GOP) (202-225-6435); LOUISIANA, Rep. Boustany, Charles (GOP) (202-225-2031); MICHIGAN, Rep. Camp, Dave (GOP) (202-225-3561) & (202-225-2031); KENTUCKY, Rep. Davis, Geoff (GOP) (202-225-3465); PENNSYLVANIA, Rep. Gerlach, Jim (GOP)(202-225-4315); KANSAS, Rep. Jenkins, Lynn (GOP)(202-225-6601); MINNESOTA, Rep. Paulsen, Erik (GOP)(202-225-2871); WASHINGTON, Rep. Reichert, Dave (GOP) (202-225-7761); WISCONSIN, Rep. Ryan, Paul (GOP) (202-225-3031)

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Brittanicus 2 years, 6 months ago

More about the Ways and Means Committee and E-Verify

You may ask, "Why does the Ways and Means Committee have jurisdiction over an immigration enforcement bill?. One of the greatest features of H.R. 2885 is the "No Match" letters to employers and the "Multiple Match" notices to employees.

These will identify illegal aliens using fictitious or stolen identities. They will lead to mass firings of illegal aliens who currently have jobs.

Both the "No Match" letters and the multiple match letters sections of H.R. 2885 are connected to the Social Security Administration. The House Ways and Means Committee has jurisdiction over those parts of the bill. If Chairman Lamar Smith is forced to strip out those provisions, MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS would have permanent access to jobs they have already gained illegally.

What's the Motive of the Ways and Means Committee? THIS IS NOT JUST THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION LEGAL OBSTACLES, BUT THE ELITISTS IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

And why would the Ways and Means Committee be blocking this bill anyway? Do they have legitimate differences on policy issues? Is it out of spite or legislative turf protecting? Sure looks that way. Whatever the reason for them sitting on this bill, the result is millions of Americans left without work because illegal aliens are filling the jobs!

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE…are you content to see that happen? Let me ask it another way. Are you determined to get the ENTIRE E-VERIFY BILL, including the N0 MATCH AND MULTIPLE MATCH LETTERS, SIGNED INTO LAW?

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Study “ImmigrationCounters site for in depth details on illegal immigrations, such as statistics, jobs, Social Services and welfare and figures on incarcerations. REMEMBER THE CHIEF MAJORITY OF THE TEA PARTY, WILL NEGATE ANY CHANCE OF ANOTHER AMNESTY, OR ANY TYPE OF SHREWD ILLEGAL ALIEN CLEMENCY.

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Brittanicus 2 years, 6 months ago

1) 22 million Americans cannot find a full-time job.

2) Chairman Lamar Smith's (R-TX) E-Verify bill, the Legal Workforce Act, will free up millions of these jobs for the legal workers who deserve them.

3) E-Verify have cleared its biggest single hurdle, when it passed (without crippling amendments!) through the House Judiciary Committee.

4) Now, the House Ways and Means Committee must either agree to the bill or just send it directly to the House Floor for action. If Ways and Means doesn't agree to H.R. 2885, the bill will probably go nowhere, that is----it will die. 5)
5) President Obama’s “job act” that relates to “Construction” jobs must go to citizens and lawful residents. Other than U.S. farmers building Contractors and their sub-contractors are the worst perpetrators of hiring illegal aliens. Currently a third of US businesses and corporations are using E-Verify, to employ American job hunters. Prestigious skilled workers, should be given a high preference for a working visa, but—ECONOMIC—illegal aliens should not be accepted or tourists and other overstays who never return to birth place. A “Bracero” type program should be available for honest farmers, but with a tracking system so field labor returns home, when their visa expires.

The truth is, if Americans fail to get H.R. 2885 past the Ways and Means Committee, all the hard work this year will have been for nothing! NOTHING! We must get that committee to send this bill on to the Floor.

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Brittanicus 2 years, 6 months ago

E-VERIFY! NOT JUST A LEFTIST DENOUNCEMENT? IT’S ALL ABOUT MONEY, PROFIT AND FUTURE VOTES.

Every jobless man and women should join the fight, to assure that Rep. Lamar Smith "THE LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT” passes. Some of the positive aspects are that it will determine who has a right to settle, work in the United States. E-Verify is part of the H.R. (H.R. 2885, Only the open border and special interests coalitions have an agenda to stop its passage and will not go down without a bitter battle. It is estimated that 8 to 9 million illegal aliens are lucratively employed in the United States and dependent territories, and need to be replaced by the growing ranks of unemployed legal workers.

Taking illegal aliens out of American jobs they don't deserve has never been popular with many in Congress. Its utterly disgusting that some Members of Congress –either Democrat or Republicans-- give enforcement measures like E-Verify lip service, but they can't be counted on to act when they have the chance. What we're now seeing with the House Ways and Means Committee sitting on H.R. 2885, Rep Lamar Smith's mandatory E-Verify bill? It sure looks that way to patriotic Americans, Multi-millions of TEA PARTY members. Every legal immigrant, whether Black, White, Hispanic, Latino, Asian of any race.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT A person’s ethnicity, as the special interests wishes you to perceive? It’s about saving the state of Arizona, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, even Liberal California and Nevada—it’s about billions of dollars—IN YOUR MONEY—being extracted from you by the tax code to support people who have illegally homesteaded in this nation. It’s about overcrowded schools, closing hospitals and a clogged prison system. Here are four quick facts from NumbersUSA, the pro-sovereignty website.

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darthtaco 2 years, 6 months ago

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/14/us/alabama-immigration-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

HAHA. If you want to build a wall on the border, then move to Russia where they do stuff like that...lol

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kernal 2 years, 6 months ago

One of you asked why the unemployed aren't taking the jobs in the fields to replace the illegal immigrants who have left Western KS. Think about it. Start with the fact that Western Kansas, as well as other agricultural areas, is sparsely populated, it's back breaking work that only the desparate and the forced labor people will do and it's minimum wage. If the growers did pay living wages, most of you commenting here would then start griping about the high cost of food. Who do you think are working in most of the beef and chicken packing plants? You can't have it both ways.

What we will have within the next year is higher food prices and more imports. Not only is the loss of the illegal immigrants going to cause it, but also the weather. Texas, which is second to California for our food production, is like an old dried up prune with no relief in site until some time in 2012 - they hope. Know where most of our produce will be coming from this winter? Mexico.

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kernal 2 years, 6 months ago

Seems a Federal Appeals Court has just ruled on blocking parts of that Alabama immigration enforcement law. So....

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Rockchalk_Mom 2 years, 6 months ago

If I make an illegal turn, I get a ticket. If I trespass, I can be arrested because it is illegal. What is so hard about defining the word illegal? It's against the law! Period. Send them back. If they want to live in the US, do it like every other immigrant has had to do. Come over legally either by application or fighting in our armed services, learn the language and pay the taxes that pays for all the services available to us, as US citizens.

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Tony Kisner 2 years, 6 months ago

I love my cheap strawberries and lettuce. I also like paying $5.00 for 6 white tee shirts. Nothing wrong with undocumented workers, its not like they are slaves or anything.

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Rae Hudspeth 2 years, 6 months ago

In Alabama, crops are rotting in the fields, businesses are failing, the economic realities are surprising: http://www.npr.org/2011/10/08/141183030/can-the-u-s-economy-really-function-without-undocumented-workers

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Jim Williamson 2 years, 6 months ago

Meanwhile, in the middle of this "self-deportation," a couple of friends of mine who farm in Western Kansas can't find anyone to work their fields. No amount of advertising or hourly wage is bringing in "legal" residents.

I'm not saying illegal immigration isn't a problem, but "self-deportation" has consequences.

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Angela Heili 2 years, 6 months ago

I think it interesting that the white man killed men, women and children, lied, cheated, and ripped the land right out from under the native American's, but when the Mexicans come up here and take jobs that no one else wants we cry "foul". What goes around comes around people. Doesn't feel very good to be "invaded" does it?

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citizen1 2 years, 6 months ago

I do not see any experts listed. I see agenda driven folks.

Alberto Cardenas please realize the states are taking matters into their own hands because the Feds, thru inaction, are supporting illegal immigration.

Jeanette I don't believe prices would go up if the illegals would go home & get their green card, and any other documentation they need and then come back legally.

All arguments supporting illegals are political and not in the best interests of the USA.

America is a country of laws. What part of illegal don't folks get?

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 6 months ago

Raise the minimum wage to something approaching a living wage, and enforce it, and implement a guest worker program that's well supervised to prevent employer abuse, and the immigration problem goes away.

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Mike Ford 2 years, 6 months ago

actually texas comes from the word tejas which is supposedly Caddo for friend... actually bedtime for bonzo signed the indian gaming regulatory act into law in 1988. actually Mexico has a significant indigenous population that is treated as bad as the indigenous peoples here. The Spaniards there co opted hundreds of indigenous languages with Spanish, an immigrant language like English which co opted hundreds of languages here. English came here on a boat with immigrants who have turned reality on it's head now for three or four centuries on this land. One has to love it when corporations refuse to pay their own caucasian people a living wage while the misinformed vote for politicians who profess their love of god and guns while closing down these misinformed people's places of work and sending them to India or Mexico where their people value education more than the over confident misinformed and undereducated people called rural americans do. Only in America....keep failing and voting for the people who kneecap you...you're doing great....and instead of dealing with the problem assail the messenger....

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ivalueamerica 2 years, 6 months ago

If we can not find a way to deal with immigration without violating human rights, ignoring our own Constitution and holding ourselves accountable for our part of the problem, then we fail as a nation.

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billbodiggens 2 years, 6 months ago

Had dealings with Hawkens on various state-wide and local issues over the years. The man is not a nut. He is a highly educated and competent enforcer of law and has been at it for decades. Dismiss him if you will, but do not expect a relative new comer to the arena to have any better opinions on the issues at hand. Kobach says he disagrees with Hawkens. Kobach does not say why he disagrees. Maybe Kobach simply does not want to deal with reality but knowes he has found his magic carpet to fame and fortune. To disagree with something or someone by calling it or them a liberal or conservative is meaningless. It is merely name calling used by desperate people to feel important and imposing. It is, for the most part, simply foolish. It apparently requires saying the dumbest things imaginable.

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BornAgainAmerican 2 years, 6 months ago

"Jeanette Hernandez Prenger of Kansas City, Mo., and vice chair of the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, said some of the consequences of the new Alabama law would be higher food prices because farmers in Alabama were having trouble finding people to harvest crops."

End the welfare program that is called extended unemployment compensation. If that's done, then Alabama will have people tripping over each other to harvest crops.

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Jayhawker07 2 years, 6 months ago

Bottom line the border is still unprotected. This an unenforced state. I guess I will change my opinion when I am told to do so. At least that is what I am told.

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ksrush 2 years, 6 months ago

It would be a real shame if Iran hired a hitman here on illegal terms. Some people have no ethics

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Flap Doodle 2 years, 6 months ago

Head 'em up & move 'em out. There should be fleets of buses going to the Mexican border every day loaded to the gunwales with illegal aliens being deported.

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Mike Ford 2 years, 6 months ago

misinformation brought to you by the Koch brothers.....

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Delawarebob 2 years, 6 months ago

The Federal Government has refused to enforce our immigration laws and now we have 12-20 million illegal aliens in this country, not counting their anchor babies, (illegal alien children). Anyone ever figure out what a drain this illegal immigration has been on this country, the schooling of the illegal alien children, the free medical care, the stolen jobs, the crime, the costs of deportation, the cost of building the fence, the costs of the law suits, the money sent out of this country by the illegal aliens, the costs of jailing these illegal aliens and everything else. When is this all going to end? We have an estimated 18 million Americans out of work, yet 7 million illegal aliens are working. There is a problem here. This problem will only end when we get rid of all the illegal aliens and their anchor babies, (illegal alien children). THAT IS A FACT!

http://www.irishcentral.com/story/news/from-the-right/57-of-immigrants-in-america-are-on-public-assistance-128359273.html

http://www.newsmax.com/JamesWalsh/Illegal-Aliens-IRS-Tax/2011/09/23/id/412134

http://www.lvrj.com/news/more-illegal-immigrants-getting-emergency-treatment-at-umc-82579442.html

Any questions?

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Mike Ford 2 years, 6 months ago

better yet false hope why don't you and your incredibly intelligent european immigrants create another H.R. 108 to terminate the federal recognition of over 300 tribes so that you can steal all the timber, water, oil, and natural gas you want... stealing is what republicans actually do right...in all actuality H.R. 108 did occur between 1954 and 1973 when Richard Nixon declared the legislation a failure and began the congressional process of restoring the federal recognition to many of the formerly terminated tribes to end a process another republican Dwight Eisenhower started. Of the 1.2 million acres of timber the Klamath Tribe of Oregon had prior to termination they've got maybe 100,000 acres back. If you're going to be a good thief you might as well ask a republican how it's done. Better yet, why not ask Jack Abramov and Tom Delay how it's done. Jack Abramov left federal prison owing the Coushatta Tribe of Louisiana $ 22.3 Million for his lobbying frauds...how do you assail Democrats with a straight face.....denial....that's the ticket.

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optimist 2 years, 6 months ago

It is unbelievable how dishonest these illegal immigrant advocates are.

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FalseHopeNoChange 2 years, 6 months ago

It takes an immigration expert to identify lawbreakers. That's why they need an immigration expert. They have broken the law.

Tossing them back over the borderline is not punishment nor will it solve the problem. What the country needs is the Democrats Japanese internment camps from the 40's.

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consumer1 2 years, 6 months ago

Who besides themselves say they are "Immigration experts"? Of couse they disagree with Kobach. Show me a left wing nut job who doesn't disagree with him.

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bradh 2 years, 6 months ago

Immigration experts? With the exception of James Hawkins, it looks like all the experts in the article either make their living from defending illegals or work for organizations supporting illegals. That doesn't make them experts, they just presumably agree with the author's viewpoint.

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itwasthedukes 2 years, 6 months ago

Not a pretty situation but something has to be done. Shame on the federal government for letting it get this bad.

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