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Mom of missing tot says she took lie detector test

Claims cops told her “You did it.”

October 7, 2011, 8:12 a.m. Updated October 7, 2011, 1:15 p.m.

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Kansas City, Mo., police issued an Amber Alert for Lisa Irwin, an infant who disappeared from her Kansas City home overnight on Oct. 3.

Kansas City, Mo., police issued an Amber Alert for Lisa Irwin, an infant who disappeared from her Kansas City home overnight on Oct. 3.

— The mother of a 10-month-old girl who went missing from their Kansas City home said police told her she failed a lie detector test and accused her of being involved in her baby's disappearance.

Deborah Bradley said Friday that police never showed her the results of the test and denied knowing anything about what happened to her daughter, Lisa Irwin. Bradley and the baby's father, Jeremy Irwin, said Lisa was abducted from her crib late Monday or early Tuesday.

"They said I failed (a polygraph test)," Bradley, 25, told The Associated Press. "And I continued to say that's not possible because I don't know where she's at and I did not do this."

Irwin, 28, said he also offered to take a test but that police said that was not necessary.

Kansas City police spokesman Steve Young declined to comment Friday on whether the parents have been tested, citing the ongoing investigation.

Bradley and Irwin, both dressed in jeans and sweatshirts, held hands and teared up several times during the 20-minute interview. They reiterated that their main focus "is to bring Lisa home."

"We need her. We have to have her. She's our link that ties everybody together," Irwin said.

They said police have treated them like suspects and that Bradley in particular has been preparing for the possibility of charges being filed against her. The mother said detectives told her: "You did it. You did it. And we have nothing.'"

Irwin, an electrician, said he returned from work around 4 a.m. Tuesday and discovered Lisa was missing. Bradley said she last checked on the child around 10:30 p.m. and that when Lisa disappeared she was asleep in her bed with her 6-year-old son and a stray kitten they found earlier in the day. The parents said they discovered their front door unlocked, a window open and house lights blazing, lending credence to the theory that the baby may have been snatched by an intruder.

"The main problem I think that we're facing is that everybody (else) has an alibi," Irwin said. "I was at work. I've been cleared. All these other people we were worried about ... the FBI said they've been cleared. The only one you can't clear is the mother that's at home when it happens 'cause there's nobody else there."

On Thursday, police told reporters that Bradley and Irwin were no longer cooperating with authorities in their investigations, but the family later released a statement insisting they had never stopped.

The parents reasserted their commitment to the investigation Friday, saying they are not angry with how things have gone and that they understand police have a difficult job to do.

"Don't get me wrong. I understand why they did what they did," Bradley said. "You see stuff like this everywhere. You watch the TV, and there's some crazy person doing something insane. There's been too many times stuff has happened. They have to assume what's worst ... but it felt like it was taken really, really far."

Bradley said, "I'm still not angry."

The parents also said their three cellphones had been stolen, but Young said the missing phones had not produced any leads.

Investigators focused their search Thursday on a heavily wooded area, sewers and an industrial park. About 100 officers scoured the industrial area and adjacent woods, while others were lifting drain covers and crawling inside.

But by Thursday evening authorities announced they were shutting down the command post about a mile from the family home. Police spokesman Darin Snapp sent out a news release saying authorities believed they had done everything they could "regarding geographic searches."

Lisa has blue eyes and blonde hair, is 30 inches tall and weighs around 28 pounds. She was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with pictures of white kittens.

Comments

oneeye_wilbur 2 years, 6 months ago

So what do the brothers think happened? Where is their daddy? Is Irwin the father of them?

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akt2 2 years, 6 months ago

Nancy does know how to rant. I think her and Judge Judy could rule the country courts single handed.

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lunacydetector 2 years, 6 months ago

a plausible explanation...perp entered through the window, because the mother is fat, most likely snores - maybe sleep apnea, perp can hear the mother's train wreck snore throughout the house, turns on the lights, finds cell phones, walks out the front door carrying baby....who knows? hope they find baby safe and sound. i saw mother interviewed and she seemed genuinely distraught.

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Deja Coffin 2 years, 6 months ago

I don't know what to believe and just hope that this little baby girl is returned home safe and sound. The lack of evidence leading towards a person is really disheartening. Hopefully somethings comes up and there is some kind of break in the case.

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acg 2 years, 6 months ago

I have to admit when I first heard this story I also thought Susan Smith, but the mother's grief seems so genuine. I saw thru Susan Smith the first time I saw her press conference begging for her boys to be brought home. She seemed so fake and her tears and cries were not well acted at all. This woman, though, seems genuinely distraught. Either way I can't imagine how one must feel. I think about what would happen if someone snatched one of my kids and the thought of it makes me unable to breathe. If this were me, I'd need to be sedated heavily or I would literally lose my mind with worry. I hope they find her. She's a cute little thing and she needs to be home with her family.

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moot 2 years, 6 months ago

how dare these parents did this to a child.

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LJ Whirled 2 years, 6 months ago

You knew that this would happen if the baby was not quickly found.

The police come into a situation where a child has disappeared, and they must establish the "universe" of people who could have "dunnit" or at least know what happened. (Amanda Knox is reportedly in Seattle, so it probably wasn't her) The family lives right in the middle of that universe, surrounded by others who might be classed as "known" - friends, neighbors, registered offenders in the area - and "unknown" - mysterious strangers. They have begun to weed out all the "knowns" and think (maybe incorrectly) that they have eliminated everybody but Mom, and they cannot come up with any "unknowns", so they focus on Mom and pound on her mercilessly, because there is no one else left to suspect. Of course, there are plenty of "others" to suspect, but the cops cannot I.D. them, and have not good evidence of them, so Mom is the handiest thing at which to direct their efforts. They really have no choice but to pound where there is ANY possibility of finding the truth.

If, as is very possible, she knows what happened to the child, then so be it, I guess. If, as also is very possible, she does not know, then ... wow, what a brutal process to put a mother through.

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avoice 2 years, 6 months ago

The specifics of this case remain to be seen, but the most important thing for We The People to take away from these types of investigations is this: When police are able to infringe on a citizen's Constitutional rights, they call it "cooperating." When a citizen invokes the protection of his or her Constitutional rights, they say the person has "ceased to cooperate with police." This is meant to give the rest of us the message: We, the Police, would rather dispense with your Constitutional rights and we'll go to any lengths, both public and private to bully you into relinquishing them.

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jafs 2 years, 6 months ago

Police are allowed to lie to suspects, legally.

If she did in fact fail the test, why wouldn't they show her the results if she wanted to see them?

If they don't, it's entirely possible that they're lying to her in order to pressure her into confessing.

Also, I agree that the tests aren't infallible - the scientific community has much less faith in them than law enforcement.

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jman785 2 years, 6 months ago

I still think it's a little odd that someone would break in and turn on all the lights in the house. Couldn't afford a flashlight or someone's not being honest here. An hour to call the police after finding your child missing? Long enough to hide evidence possibly...

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Paul R Getto 2 years, 6 months ago

Who knows what happened? I hope the child is found safe. Sadly, many domestic situations like this find a family member or close friend guilty. While 'stranger danger' is a fact, most of the time the danger is under the family's roof or very close by. Random kidnappings are quite rare. They make good television drama, but that's about it.

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senegal66025 2 years, 6 months ago

So this is the situation at present. While dad is at work some unknown perp decides to steal baby. The unknown perp goes in a window ( the only one without a screen) and then turns on the lights in the house. I guess thats so the perp can find the baby. The perp decides that since he or she is stealing the baby he or she might as well take three cell phones at the same time. Then the perp decides its ok to go out the front door since nobody would possibly be watching.

Under this set of "facts' the cops are getting a little impatient with the mom. She in turn has decided that the cops are not understanding enough about her situation so she needs to go on network TV which will certainly help find the baby.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn that i'd like to sell. It is more likely that the bridge is really mine than the story the cops are now getting.

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friendlyjhawk 2 years, 6 months ago

Wow, a polygraph expert who wants to be president took the time to post on this anonymous comment rag! LJW you draw the most exotic posters ever. Let the police do their job. That poor baby is what they are worried about. The hell the with families feelings.

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Adrienne Sanders 2 years, 6 months ago

So, the mother took one but the father doesn't have to. The baby went missing while the mother was home but the father wasn't. The thing with the three missing cell phones... I hope the baby is safe somewhere but something ain't right.

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senegal66025 2 years, 6 months ago

Police call the polygraph a "confession box." There is an elaborate ritual attached to it that results in the lead detective saying "this looks bad." "I have never seen one this bad." "You have to start telling us the truth." Believe or not this works and most of the perps are so dumb they fall for it. In this particular case the name "Susan Smith" comes to mind. If you don't know who she is look it up.

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somedude20 2 years, 6 months ago

I hope the child is still alive and well but I also hope that Nacy disGrace does not jump on this story!! God, I did not like waking up for work and having to hear that pig's voice and the phrase 'tot mom" is really one of the dumbest ever

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Rara_Avis 2 years, 6 months ago

More fodder for Nancy Grace coming soon.

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Agnostick 2 years, 6 months ago

Well, polygraph or not, the parents have stopped cooperating with the police--and their cell phones are missing. While every fiber of my being knows it's wrong to jump to conclusions like this, there's no denying that those two actions look really, really bad. It's really hard not to think of Susan Smith, or the Ramseys.

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cthulhu_4_president 2 years, 6 months ago

The polygraph is an antiquated piece of technology that measures 4 basic body parameters, none of which has anything to do with the act of deception, or the intent to lie. The theory that these paremeters are linked to lying and deception is tenuous, and the machine is incredibly easy to beat, if you know how to alter some of the parameters (blood pressure, pulse, breath rate) at the time that the control questions are asked. Basically, your body gives a 'lie' response during the control question, and as a result the machine cannot tell what a 'truth' response is. Of course, factors such as being nervous, tense, or having your freaking child abducted through a window are likely to confound many of these parameters, and the end result is in no way guarenteed to be the truth. There's a reason they're not allowed as court evidence, after all.

The art of admistering a polygraph test is the art of the scammer, and a good polygraph examiner will always get whatever answers they want. They are used as bullying tools in the court of public opinion, and they should not be used by police departments, since they don't freaking prove anything, other than the person taking the test was nervous.

Also, the basic design of the polygraph has not changed since it was introduced in 1921. How many pieces of unimproved technology from the 1920's would you trust to help you solve a crime?

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