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Dozens of tickets issued alleging underage drinking; four Lawrence bars cited

October 5, 2011

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Lawrence police and other area law enforcement officers issued dozens of citations last week in the second crackdown this semester on underage drinking and fake IDs.

Jen Jordan, director of prevention for DCCCA and a member of The New Tradition Coalition of Lawrence, which aims to reduce underage drinking, said officers last Thursday issued tickets for 14 offenses and 26 citations during a separate enforcement event Friday night.

On Thursday, eight Lawrence police officers were on patrol for four hours, thanks to the coalition’s Drug-Free Communities Grant and wrote six tickets to minors in possession of alcohol, five for consuming alcohol in public and one each for furnishing alcohol to a minor, transporting an open container and possession of a fake ID.

On Friday, officers with agencies, including Lawrence police, the Kansas Department of Revenue’s Alcoholic Beverage Control, Douglas County Sheriff's Office and Kansas University Public Safety Office, issued 12 citations for minors in possession of alcohol, 10 for possession or use of a fake ID, two for consuming in public, and one each for removal of alcohol from a drinking establishment and interference of duties of a law enforcement officer. The Kansas Department of Transportation funded this patrol with a grant, Jordan said.

ABC officers also issued administrative citations at four bars for allowing minors to possess alcohol: The Hawk, 1340 Ohio; Quinton’s Bar and Deli, 615 Mass.; Bullwinkle’s Bar, 1344 Tenn.; and, The Wheel, 507 W. 14th St.

Officers wrote 26 citations related to underage drinking at an earlier patrol in September.

Comments

Richard Heckler 3 years, 2 months ago

The Hawk seems to repeat these offenses if my memory serves me well. The Hawk was cited in September. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Well law enforcement this is in your ball park.

Bob Forer 3 years, 2 months ago

The Hawk, the Wheel, and Bullwinkles have for decades catered to the fraternities and sororities and have a firmly established reputation of being easy on the carding.

itsalwayssunnyinlarry 3 years, 2 months ago

The Hawk has been known as "the freshman bar" for years. It's a reputation they have earned over the years.

Steve Jacob 3 years, 2 months ago

Is there any consequences for bars repeatedly being cited?

gatekeeper 3 years, 2 months ago

There are devices the bars can buy just like a credit card reader that will read the magnetic strip on the back of an ID. If it's fake, the info that comes up won't match what's on the ID. Good fake ID's is no excuse.

Richard Heckler 3 years, 2 months ago

"Is there any consequences for bars repeatedly being cited?"

Their licenses could be pulled indefinitely........

guess_again 3 years, 2 months ago

I believe the owners of the Hawk and Wheel are also huge Oread neighborhood landlords, and I think one of them is now the prez of the Oread Neighborhood organization, having run out the resident homeowners of the area.

Can you say "ghetto?"

juma 3 years, 2 months ago

I am so glad that good tax money is spent taking beer out of the hands of, oh my God!!!., kids old enough to go to Iraq and be killed for our freedom. I mean, what could happen if under 21 but older than 18, drank the evil alcohol. We are the only country, other that Saudia Arabia, with such stupidity.

itsalwayssunnyinlarry 3 years, 2 months ago

Actually it's not national law that you have to be 21 to drink. BUT the government strongly encourages each state to use the 21 age for grant and money purposes. States have considered changing the drinking age for years now, but the thought of losing that extra money and funding usually stops any talk.

itsalwayssunnyinlarry 3 years, 2 months ago

If you are in the army and 18 my understanding is that you are allowed to drink on base or something.

mjc2891 3 years, 2 months ago

minors are also allowed to drink malt beverages under the supervision of their parents.

http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_21/Article_36/#21-3610

see 21-3610(e)... This section shall not apply to the furnishing of cereal malt beverage by a parent or legal guardian to such parent's child or such guardian's ward when such furnishing is permitted and supervised by the child or ward's parent or legal guardian.

Trobs 3 years, 2 months ago

Correct. Overseas is the only time we were allowed to drink under the age of 21.

I was deployed until the month before I turned 21. Came back home and had to wait a month before I could drink again. Was not fun.

evilpenguin 3 years, 2 months ago

Agree that 21 is a dumb age limit, considering the US lets kids who are 14 drive CARS! Seriously!? If that's not the dumbest thing I've ever heard then I'll be damned!

In the UK, you can drink and smoke at 18, drive at 16. Kids who are grown up enough to leave home and go to college should be able to drink themselves silly, it's the way to learn lifes best lessons.

Scott Morgan 3 years, 2 months ago

Don't forget seatbelt law enforcement. Smoking too. I was driving very innocently when an underage slightly buzzed teen with a smoke came flying at me from a wrecked car.

Actually, I worry more about thugs. Concentrate of folks who break in homes, drive drunk, rape, and all the other evil things humans do.

gsxr600 3 years, 2 months ago

It should be a 3 strike you're out policy. After 3 violations, shut it down for at least 6 months. The Hawk is a joke. I would bet at any one time at least a third of the patrons in there are underage.

doc1 3 years, 2 months ago

Change the drinking age to 18. Otherwise change the draft policy for military to age 21. 18 is the age of an adult isn't it?

Richard Heckler 3 years, 2 months ago

If law enforcement is not actively seeking penalties with teeth and substance why do this nonsense ever?

juma 3 years, 2 months ago

Yes, 21 is the law?? Not really, it was attached to the Highway Funding Match by two housewives in DC; Nancy Reagan and Lizzy Dole (Sec of Transport) They blackmailed the Sates to comply. I do NOT want to discuss this with Ablosishtinists bcs you have a higher calling. Fact is all countrires are 'out of step' with us. And, anyone over 50 started drinking legally before 21 and are they ALL screwed-up????

flyin_squirrel 3 years, 2 months ago

Hawk, Wheel, and Bull will always have more tickets than other bars because they are checked every night. Why doesn't ABC and Jen Jordan try going to El Mez, Salty Iguana, Tres Mexicans, Applebees, etc... If you visit restaurants every night you will find minors as well (and most likely high schoolers).

Does ABC really think giving 24 tickets is going to stop college students from drinking? It may stop them from going to the bars and just force them into drinking at houses. Does it strike anyone as a coincidence that our city commission is looking at rental registrations to stop noisy houses while the police and ABC chase drinkers out of the bars....

Prohibition never worked, but nobody ever said government learns from their mistakes.

guess_again 3 years, 2 months ago

I believe the owners of the Hawk and Wheel are also huge Oread neighborhood landlords, and I think one of them is now the prez of the Oread Neighborhood organization, having run out the resident homeowners of the area.

Can you say "ghetto?"

Alceste 3 years, 1 month ago

not exactly true, guess_again: The "...resident homeowners of the area...." may have consisted of five or six very uppity types who didn't like to play by their very own rules. You'll be happy to know they have now created what they refer to as a "club" called the Oread Residents Association which may be viewed here: http://oreadresidents.org/

It is a "by application" "club". Note that the minutes to their meetings are password protected, please. They're an exclusive bunch....not a neighborhood inclusive group as they would have you believe. They're no different than developers and landlords. Not one bit.

The Oread Neighborhood Association is open to any and all, no questions asked. The fact a "democratic election" took place and resulted in some changes is what one might call a "tyranny of the majority".....but that's "democracy": The most votes win (except in Florida).

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 2 months ago

Under Kansas law, it's the server that bears the legal brunt of serving to someone underage, not the bar. And use of a fake ID isn't typically allowed as a defense.

Soapbox 3 years, 2 months ago

If they would ever check Konroy's it would be a jackpot!

Erin Graham 3 years, 2 months ago

sigh...everybody has 'something' to say... Why not a simple "Thank You" to our law enforcement officers? Dealing with these idiots is probably not their favorite thing to have to do.

It'd be impossible in a college town to bust everyone every night. If you want an officer at every alcohol serving establishment in town at all hours of operation, have fun paying for that.

flyin_squirrel 3 years, 2 months ago

Does anyone really think that any of the students who got a ticket at the bars that night is going to stop drinking because of this ticket? It will cause them to "binge drink" more, so they don't get caught with a drink in their hand again, but I highly doubt anyone will stop drinking.

Our drinking laws are the reason students binge drink. They don't want to get caught in the bars with a drink in their hand, so they binge drink to get drunk before they go out, then only have to drink a few shots when in the bars to keep their buzz. You would think Jen Jordan would know that but I think she is more interested in headlines than helping stop root of the problem.

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