Archive for Tuesday, November 29, 2011

Opponents on Kansas school finance to speak at forum in Baldwin City

November 29, 2011


A forum on school finance — featuring speakers on opposite ends of the issue — will be at 6:30 p.m. Monday at Baldwin City High School.

Mark Tallman, associate executive director of the Kansas Association of School Boards, and Dave Trabert, president of the Kansas Policy Institute, will speak at the event, which is sponsored by state Rep. TerriLois Gregory, R-Baldwin City.

Tallman has argued for more education funding, saying it is needed to maintain quality schools and achieve academic benchmarks set by state and federal law.

The Kansas Policy Institute has argued that the state spends too much on public schools and supports using tax credits to send children to private schools.

The Wichita-based institute also has weighed in on other fiscal issues that could affect school funding, which makes up about half of the state budget. It supports elimination of the state income tax and a 401(k)-style plan for new state employees to replace the current pension system.

School finance is sure to be one of the top issues of the 2012 legislative session that starts in January. Gov. Sam Brownback has said he will propose an overhaul of the school finance system. But based on preliminary discussions on that proposal, some school advocates say it will increase the funding burden on local school districts.

At the forum, Tallman and Trabert will both make presentations and then take questions from the audience.


PFC 6 years, 5 months ago

Yes, Koch brothers employee Dave Trabert will be speaking on behalf of keeping his employers taxes low.

chootspa 6 years, 5 months ago

Dont' forget that Trabert's also with ALEC, the Koch-funded entity that likely inked the very same legislation they're tying to push.

cowboy 6 years, 5 months ago

This is sponsored by our loser rep Ms. Gregory , avowed tea partier , and the invited speaker a Kochroach.

Have you no shame Ms. Gregory ?

Trotting out the Koch speakers as legitimate on an issue as important as our childrens education.

oldbaldguy 6 years, 5 months ago

Go and listen. Asked questions. The answer is not charter schools for all or vouchers. My kids went to either Lawrence or Baldwin. Lawrence was a superior education. Baldwin was good but that was probably because of size and courses were offered. We go back to local funding, the disparity will be bad.

kansanjayhawk 6 years, 5 months ago

hummmm---always bringing up the Koch brothers but never mentioning George Sorros??? I guess you think all of this type of influence comes from the right side of the spectrum? We should all just back off and really listen to the policy alternatives instead of having knee-jerk reactions--perhaps we can come to a reasonable compromise!--isn't that how it is supposed to work?

tolawdjk 6 years, 5 months ago

I'm sorry, wasn't aware that Sorros directly wrote Tallman's check or really gave two squirts about the Kansas Association of School Boards.

On a national level, Sorros is a player. Here in Kansas they money comes from Koch.

Tallman is invovled with an organization directly invovled in education. Trabert is involved in an organization directly involved in -not- educating children. KPI's position might be possible where there is a choice in education, but last time I looked there weren't many private school options in Ness City, Cawker City, Sylvan Grove, or Columbus.

oldbaldguy 6 years, 5 months ago

That's the rub. private schools/charter schools anyone in Mound City or Wellsville? What they really want to do is go back to local funding with minimal state funding. Ultimately no public schools is the goal. Having said that, fixes are needed.

chootspa 6 years, 5 months ago

Oh, they'd like public funding - of private schools. They want to socialize the risk and privatize the benefits. It's the Koch's pseudo libertarian plan at its best. If you get the whole voucher thing to work, you can give sales pitches to parents of at-risk students. The schools may fail, but that doesn't matter to you - you've already pocketed the profits, and you can close your school and reopen with a new name to play the whole game again.

question4u 6 years, 5 months ago

"The Kansas Policy Institute has argued that the state spends too much on public schools, and supports using tax credits to send children to private schools."

Why should children from the lower classes expect the same quality of education as the children of the wealthy? The children of Louis XVI didn't go to school with the children of bakers and cobblers. The Kansas "Plutocracy" Institute has the right idea, since we 'll be able to turn Kansas into a feudal state much quicker if we make sure that children only get access to the level of education that their parents can afford. That will keep the poor in their place. Sure, Kansas won't be able to supply a well-educated workforce, but we can always get that from Florida.

chootspa 6 years, 5 months ago

He'd like to sell you the used car sales pitch that "competition" magically makes education better. The dirty little secret is that the lower socioeconomic classes have worse outcomes whether they're in public or private schools with vouchers, and putting them in charters is more likely to make their outcomes even worse than it is to improve them.

Worse yet, charter/voucher systems like the one he's proposing are hotbeds of fraud and corporate greed. He's just as likely to ruin private schools as he is public, but it doesn't matter to him, since it accomplishes so many ALEC/KOCH/Brownback agenda items: bust unions, defund education, hand taxpayer money and property to private corporations, and remove teachers from public retirement eligibility. Making education worse is just a side benefit.

Tracy Rogers 6 years, 5 months ago

Everyone should hear Mark Tallman speak. He explains the funding situation better than anyone I've ever seen.

chootspa 6 years, 5 months ago

You don't know how much I wish I could attend this. I'd love to ask some really hard questions.

Those who do, bring a bunch of citations. Ask really good questions. Don't let him off the hook.

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