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Immigration agenda

What constituency is Secretary of State Kris Kobach representing in his fight for new immigration laws in Kansas?

November 21, 2011


In his pursuit of new voting restrictions during the last session of the Kansas Legislature, Secretary of State Kris Kobach contended that voter fraud was a big problem in Kansas. Only a handful of voting fraud cases had been reported and investigated in the state, but Kobach was convinced that many cases were going undetected and new laws were needed to deal with them.

Kobach now seems to be applying the same logic to his other area of interest: immigration laws. He recently told the Journal-World that, even though the Legislature would be busy with many important issues in 2012, it shouldn’t overlook new legislation aimed at stopping illegal immigration in Kansas. In support of that conclusion, he said, “I think one of the reasons is that there is just so much demand for it from constituents.”

How has Kobach determined that demand? Has some sort of scientific poll been conducted, or is it more a matter of anecdotal contacts from Kobach’s supporters? The only organized position statement made recently on the subject came from some Kansas church leaders earlier this month asking the state to leave immigration reform to the federal government.

Kobach’s interest and national involvement with immigration issues significantly increases the chances that some kind of legislation will indeed find its way onto the state’s agenda. He helped author an anti-illegal immigration law passed in Arizona this year and continues to work in an “of counsel” position with the Immigration Reform Law Institute, which is part of the Federation for American Immigration Reform.

Kobach says he is a full-time secretary of state for Kansas and only pursues his interest in immigration laws on his own time, but some would question where his attention is focused. The home page of the website, maintained by Kansans for Kobach, lists two occupations for Kobach: Kansas secretary of state and “defender of cities and states that fight illegal immigration.” His moonlighting as an attorney dealing with immigration issues may not violate any state laws, but it raises questions about his commitment to the job he was elected to do.

Kobach said last week that he doesn’t see anti-illegal immigration legislation getting crowded out by other issues in the upcoming session. Given his interest in this issue, Kobach probably is right. The question is whether his pursuit of immigration legislation is driven by constituent interests or even the best interest of the state or by some other personal or political agenda.


Richard Heckler 6 years, 7 months ago

  1. It's a RINO agenda that is doing nothing except keeping his name in lights. He is obsessed.

2.If he was concerned about immigration people he could start busting companies that hire "illegal" immigrants which would probably be much easier. Then again that would men sources of special interest campaign money would be affected.

  1. He could be trying to make it more difficult for people to vote such as seniors who have been voting for several decades without the new hassle. Immigrants represent the smoke and screen because being honest about his endeavors simply would not fly.

Orwell 6 years, 7 months ago

Kobach had to make a career in right wing politics because he lacked the honesty required to sell used cars for his dad.

Paul R Getto 6 years, 7 months ago

"How has Kobach determined that demand?" === He hasn't, but this is a good time to remember the Brownback administration is faith-based, not fact-based. The agenda is purely ideological and not subject to questions based on mere facts or evidence. Deep breaths, Kansas. Vote in August to diminish the House's influence and to save the remaining rational senators.

ivalueamerica 6 years, 7 months ago

you never have explained why you only speak to the illegal immigrants and not the illegal Americans who have profited and taken advantage of them for decades.

headdoctor 6 years, 7 months ago

You never will get an explanation from Snap. He isn't in the habit of posting anything that actually contributes to a thread. The posts aren't much different than if they were copy and pasted and then only on about four subjects. Illegal aliens, Liberals, copy and paste and the one who can not be named.

Cait McKnelly 6 years, 7 months ago

Anybody ever notice that snap speaks in Tea Party rally signage?

Getaroom 6 years, 7 months ago

Paul has put it as succinctly as possible. Thank you Paul.

Bob_Keeshan 6 years, 7 months ago

Don't leave out more unicorns, gnomes, and jabberwockies.

I mean, as long as you're basing your opinion on a fantasy...

Orwell 6 years, 7 months ago

And they voted exactly as often as Kobach's imaginary army of illegal alien voters.

Maddy Griffin 6 years, 7 months ago

And if left up to you, only those that vote like you would have that right.

ivalueamerica 6 years, 7 months ago

Of course you can not prove it, not even Kobach can.

But, if you keep repeating a lie long enough...some believe it..while most of us just recognize you as a repeat liar.

mloburgio 6 years, 7 months ago

Two jobs may be too much for Kobach

Is Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach splitting his attention between two jobs?

In addition to serving in his state post, which pays a salary of $86,000 a year, Kobach is also the legal counsel for Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) in Washington, D.C., and has been since 2004. That is the legal arm of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). The question is, does Kobach earn anything from this effort? Does he get paid by FAIR, as it goes from state to state legislating immigration reform?

One hint comes from Farmers Branch, Texas. Kobach, working with FAIR, authored legislation in 2010 that cost the city $4 million in legal fees, according to the former mayor pro-tem of the city, Carol Dingman.

Dingman wrote to a newspaper: “I have researched Kris Kobach. Our mayor said he was an expert in immigration law who would help the city on a pro-bono (free) basis.”

Continues Dingman, “Mr. Kobach was paid $100,000. So much for pro-bono.”

Mike Ford 6 years, 7 months ago

herr kobach is selling fear to arguement baiting constituents like falsehope and math because they're the ones following him as he blows his flute of lies like a piper down the yellow brick. gotta keep the dimwits scared enough to vote their fear.... it kept the mccarthy scare and the previous red scare going for nothing right? ich heil!!! speichen sie deutch ouslanders???? jaja....der komissar's in town uhoh.....dumkaupfs.....

cowboy 6 years, 7 months ago

He's been in a year now , bout time for a FOI request for his attendance , appointment calendar , use of vacation or personal days , travel.

Paul R Getto 6 years, 7 months ago

CB: An excellent idea. If the LJW ever decides to do some investigative reporting, this would be a good place to start.

Phillbert 6 years, 7 months ago

It's a good thing the LJW advocated voting a straight Republican ticket in the last election, otherwise they wouldn't have anything to editorialize about.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 7 months ago

There's no mystery here-- Kobach uses this issue solely to keep his name in the news headlines.

Attacking/scapegoating a powerless and largely harmless group, immigrants, comes with very little political risk, because they can't vote (not even before Kobach's vote suppression legislation) and they don't fund lobbyists or political campaigns.

headdoctor 6 years, 7 months ago

Why do YOU support lawbreakers? The Republican moral compass doesn't exactly point North.

Could it be that you have lawbreaking confused with less Government interference? My bad. I forgot that it is only lawbreaking when the Republicans say it is. Must be the same confusion the Republicans have understanding Socialist programs and smaller Government.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 7 months ago

Ooh!!! Lawbreakers with a capital L.

For you, status crimes such as "illegal immigrant," (and likely "escaped chattel slave,") are opportunities for you to express your xenophobia, and to support the ability of social and genetic "superiors" to exploit their "inferiors."

I look at it differently, but that's because I'm capable of something completely foreign to you-- compassion, and the ability to see these "Lawbreakers" for what they are-- people just like me (and probably much much like you than you'll ever be able to acknowledge.)

kernal 6 years, 7 months ago

Kobach.... looking for monsters under the bed.

verity 6 years, 7 months ago

Oh, my dear Autie, have you no faith?

headdoctor 6 years, 7 months ago

Kobach must have had bad role models growing up. Instead of counting sheep he was taught to count illegal aliens. Either way he hasn't figured out that Kansas isn't South Texas where voter fraud has gone on openly for decades. There they have had everything from really dead people voting to voters ballots being declared not valid before they were even in the counter box and yes many of those non-valid ballots belonged to legal Hispanic voters. A subject Kobach will no doubt not spend time on.

jhawkinsf 6 years, 7 months ago

I know illegal immigrants are very much like us. Some want to work hard and better themselves. Some don't. Some see education as a way to achieve that something better, some don't. Some engage in criminal activity, some don't. Some have children they can't support, some don't. Some what nothing more than to scam the system, some don't. Some want their voices to be heard in our democracy, some don't. Yes, they are very much like the rest of us, except that they happened to be born somewhere else and came here in violation of our immigration laws.
But a big problem is sheer volume. Their numbers overwhelm us. Perhaps with our economic woes, the flood has slowed. But does that mean that our best means of controlling illegal immigration is economic recession? When times are bad, they leave? We as Americans have the right to establish our own immigration policies and immigrants from around the world should respect that. Every country has that right and every country should expect that their immigration policies should be respected. If a person's first act upon entering a country is to disrespect their hosts, then why should they expect respect in return. As I said, they are very much like us, and we are very much like them. I know I seldom respond to being disrespected with an offering of respect. Let immigrants come in the peaceful and orderly manner in which our laws have established. And if our laws are too burdensome, there is no shortage of advocacy groups that can petition our government to change our laws. But until that happens, I'll advocate that our laws be obeyed.

roadwarrior 6 years, 7 months ago

This reminds me of all the people who go to the zoo and oooo and ahhh over the cute alligators, so harmless so deserving UNTIL the day they find one in the back yard having eaten the poodle. It's all a matter of perspective. Just cause they aren't in YOUR backyard doesn't mean they aren't a problem.

MarcoPogo 6 years, 7 months ago

So, places like Florida would be having immigrant/gator problems, unlike Kansas where gators rarely show up in back yards?

I don't think your analogy works.

jhawkinsf 6 years, 7 months ago

Unless you're assuming the answer is zero, then your question and comment makes no sense. And if you really do think that the answer is zero, then there is a serious disconnect between your reality and the reality of everyone else in the state.

jhawkinsf 6 years, 7 months ago

If that's his hypotheses, that there are zero illegal immigrants in Kansas, then his entire remark, including his criticism of Kobach, looks rather silly.

Brittanicus 6 years, 7 months ago


Has everyone seen or heard about the typical American worker, lining up for jobs that are now open after the raids from ICE, leaving wide gaps in staff needs throughout the country. It is obvious to the most prudent of people that if illegal migrants and immigrants fearful of ICE arresting them are fleeing custody. Then business owners really have no choice but to advertise in the local press, or just hang out a hiring sign for legitimate labor? Finally Homeland Security, with the ICE division is sweeping down on criminal companies, who think they exempt from Immigration enforcement. The manifest lightening ICE raids began with the Postville, meatpacking plant in Iowa, when 390 undocumented immigrants were arrested and taken into detention. Soon after the lines grew in volume as Americans turned up for a job opportunity, These are not isolated incidents as other companies have been caught red handed, by the sudden appearance of ICE agents and creating more employment.

This can be accelerated by the ‘The Legal Workforce Act- widely known as E-Verify. It is very distressing that citizens and legal residents must fetch this to the attention of politicians, of a great many who appear to be uninterested to the plight of American workers--that the US government have ignored this illegal alien problem for decades, seemingly denying even the real population size or the massive costs to Americans taxpayers. It's proven that they just don't care, or that the interests of Washington lobbyists and the enormity of money flushed into their campaigns by corporations is more important to them than their constituents. Those who enter America illegally are come here for jobs, but are well acquainted in the public entitlement aid structure and are better adapted to use forged ID to get their share of taxpayer dollars--over a hundred billion of those dollars? This astronomical entitlement programs going to migrants and overstay immigrants is going to continue, unless politicians pull-the-plug by enacting the E-Verify law?

A Republican Representative In Decatur, Micky Hammon stated, "The truth is more Alabamians are working today thanks in part to our decision to crack down on illegal immigration." It is his name on the immigration bill that became law, the Beason-Hammon Alabama Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act. Birmingham-area unemployment fell by nearly a full percentage point from 8.9% in September to 8% in October. Illegal alien families are leaving, so what other proof do the Congress need to show that immigration works if imposed?

Brittanicus 6 years, 7 months ago

The 'Legal workforce Act' like the tough policing laws in Alabama especially; also adopted in a similar fashion in Georgia, Arizona, Indiana and South Carolina, are producing surprising results of foreign nationals moving away to less inhibited states. Sanctuary States like California, Nevada, run by majority leaning Liberals will soon apprehensively find welfare costs will sky rocket. Is it no conjecture that the Democrats, Liberals and the elitist wealthy Republicans are getting uptight, throwing any piece of ambiguous information—whether the racial card or slurs in their newspaper columns of leftist media. In just the last few days was the fact that a German executive from Mercedes Benz Corporation was arrested in Alabama, evidently displays that the new policing laws are working.

I would expect nothing else in immigration enforcement to uphold our laws. The same if the local police pulled me over for a traffic offense, and then I would be ready to display my driving license and insurance card. Both major parties are adamant in 'business as usual' so nothing changes for the career policy makers; that are why our country is slipping even deeper in to a recession. These privileged leaders only enforce laws, except where they are of an advantage to their interests. Of late it's 'Insider Trading' that Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) majority Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and others hope this blemish will fades away in their Congressional record? Look at the seemingly cover-up in the Obama administration with the massive government guarantee for the ‘Solyndra's’ solar panel corporation that will cost taxpayers $500.million dollars bailed out once again by taxpayers.

The American people’s own advantage comes in future elections, when we have the opportunity to rid Washington of these rascals. Not only can we vote for more TEA PARTY selected leaders whose main agenda is to repack the US government Departments and return them to the control of the 50 states. Then additionally completely trash the Tax Code, which has been profoundly corrupted giving massive tax liberation of subsidies to thousands of corporations, business and well placed friends of legislators, while the rest of us have to pay the tax-man.

Brittanicus 6 years, 7 months ago

Nobody says we shouldn’t attract the highest skilled works, specifically in the Sciences, engineering and other technology. But within our country the most urgent need is for utterly zero-tolerance enforcement for all illegal aliens no options; that’s what the TEA PARTY believes?

Rep. Smith’s THE LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT’ (H.R.2885.) The ‘Ways and Means Committee led by Majority Speak John Boehner (R-OH) must adopt the Mandatory E-Verify Bill (H.R. 2885.) This would be a great start to cutting down on illegal foreign workers, in every occupation. Don’t be put off by screener's, just keep the barrage going till lawmakers know where you stand on this issue. Call this number at the Washington Switchboard 202-224-3121. Consider that Pro-sovereignty sites as NumbersUSA and hundreds of organizations such as American Patrol, Federation of American Immigration Reform, CAPS, Heritage Foundation and others have the answers on costs, surveys and analysis

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