Archive for Monday, November 14, 2011

Heard on the Hill: Mizzou newspaper blames end of rivalry on KU; lecturer Bernie Kish earns HOPE award; Monarch waystations find their way to Indiana, far reaches of the globe

Bernie Kish, KU lecturer in health, sport and exercise science, was the recipient of the 2011 HOPE, or Honor for an Outstanding Progressive Educator, Award during halftime of the game Saturday.

Bernie Kish, KU lecturer in health, sport and exercise science, was the recipient of the 2011 HOPE, or Honor for an Outstanding Progressive Educator, Award during halftime of the game Saturday.

November 14, 2011


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• The death of the MU-KU rivalry, yeah that’s KU’s fault. So says the Maneater, a student newspaper at the University of Missouri.

The editorial picks up on comments from KU’s chancellor saying the school was sorry to see the rivalry end, and basketball coach Bill Self saying the majority of KU fans don’t “give a flip” about playing Missouri.

“Both statements give off a defeatist attitude and indicate the KU administration is out of touch with the reality of rivalries in college athletics,” the editorial says. “There is no rule, written or unwritten, that mandates a rivalry can only be sustained if both schools are in the same conference.”

Missouri’s leaving the Big 12 Conference has already attracted a fair bit of snippy comments and rancor on both sides.

There was, of course, this tweet from KU’s official KU News Twitter account that attracted a fair amount of attention, too.

The tweet from KU's official account got attention.

The tweet from KU's official account got attention.

It’s these kinds of back-and-forth exchanges that make me think this rivalry will stay alive and well even if these two teams don’t play for some time.

• Here’s some Heard on the Hill kudos for Bernie Kish, a lecturer in the department of health, sport and exercise sciences, who received the annual HOPE award at Saturday’s football game.

The HOPE award is a pretty nice honor. Established by the Class of 1959, it's an honor for teaching excellence given to faculty entirely by students.

I attended the football game on Saturday, and, sadly, the result on the field wasn’t as happy, to put it mildly.

• The Times of Northwest Indiana wrote a bit about the monarch butterfly waystations in the area, a project of KU’s Monarch Watch program.

Monarch folks around the country have more than 5,000 waystations, which are gardens that have plants friendly to monarchs in support of their migration, and the Times reported that about 200 of those are in Indiana.

Here’s the complete list. It shows waystations in places outside the country, too, like Grand Bahama Island, Rockingham, Australia.

• It might not save the monarchs, but if you’ve got a tip for Heard on the Hill, you should send it to


TopJayhawk 6 years, 1 month ago

Yes, everything is KU's fault. so glad MU is going.
Any bets on how long it will take for the SEC to get sick of them?

Kookamooka 6 years, 1 month ago

The rivalry is over. I agree with that statement. MU can't have it both ways. I'm glad they are gone. Having two major rivalries (KSU and MU) was a drag. Boo Hoo Mizzou. They need to find another school in their new conference to hate. It will never be the same again.

ljwhirled 6 years, 1 month ago

They'd have to be relevant to be hated.

In their new conference they are going to get beat so bad that they'll look like a spouse after a "discussion" in Topeka.

Biscayne 6 years, 1 month ago

Congradulations Dr. Kish on the HOPE award, it couldn't have went to a more deserving and great person.

CardHawkFan 6 years, 1 month ago

Agreed. If you have a chance as a student to take any of his classes, I highly recommend it. Good stuff. Congrats Dr. Kish!

jayhawkinsf 6 years, 1 month ago

I suggest we play Missouri every year in both football and basketball, both games right here in Lawrence. Every year, here. And if they refuse, then we blame them.
Go to "H" "E" "double hockey sticks", missouri.

oldvet 6 years, 1 month ago

MU blames KU... and prisons are full of innocent people.

Let's start a series with Missouri State and call it the Border Showdown! Is the new Livestrong Sporting Park big enough to handle a football field? Then the game would be on Kansas soil.

Terry Sexton 6 years, 1 month ago

I have a cake. Watch me eat it. Hey, what happened to my cake!?

jayhawklawrence 6 years, 1 month ago

You always feel a little cheapened when you play Missouri. Like sitting through a torrent of obscene jokes by a bad comedian.

You just wish you had planned your day a little better.

I won't miss them.

Horace 6 years, 1 month ago

The MU paper is right. KU's administration and fans have been embarrassing throughout the meltdown of the Big 12.

KU could play MU if it wanted to, but because we're bitter, we won't.

KU is jealous that MU has moved on to a better conference. Get over it. KU's stuck in the hollow shell of what used to be the Big 12. Missouri wasn't and they took the only reasonable action: find a chair before the music stops.

Bursting 6 years, 1 month ago

Whatever Dude... Its people like you and Mizzou that think Music is playing... If they stayed and we get Louisville after the Big East loses it's case against WVU, then tell me what the Big 12 would have looked like. 12 teams that are just fine.

Horace 6 years, 1 month ago

In the last two years the Big 12 has lost Nebraska, Colorado, Texas A&M, and Missouri.

Those four have been replaced with West Virginia and TCU.

If you can't see that the Big 12 is on the decline, go get Lasik.

If the Big 12 was a strong conference getting stronger, big time programs would be trying to join. They're not.

Corey Williams 6 years, 1 month ago

Nebraska was regaining it's football glory and it was on the road to being a basketball powerhouse. In the big 12 with Kansas, that doesn't really mean that much. And the nearest school that they will play is in Illinois. How many Nebraska fans will travel with them for that? Colorado was horrible at football and basketball. Basically a whipping boy for everyone else in the conference. The only reason the Pac 10 took them was because they thought they would get Oklahoma and Texas. Let's see how much they regret that move in a few years. Texas A&M/TCU, pretty much an even trade. Missouri gone? They have football, but no basketball game at all. And since the coach drove them back to KC in order to not spend a dime in Lawrence, good riddance.

jesse499 6 years, 1 month ago

MU started the whole mess that caused NU and CU to leave by popping off that they were going to Big Ten and found out that that the Big Ten didn't want them they wanted NU.To save face they go to the SEC I don't know how their going to save face from the bottom of the SEC standings but.Now their going to blame KU for not wanting to play someone who's been talking out of both sides of it's mouth and was a major reason for the break up in the first place.

Horace 6 years, 1 month ago

If you think NU and CU left because of Missouri, well no.

jesse499 6 years, 1 month ago

Maybe not but Missouri was the first to pop off about going some place else so as far as I'm concerned they started it .It also leaves a bad tast that the guy at MU that was suppose to be working to keep the BIG 12 together at the same time was talking to the SEC but their good at going behind your back had a lot of practice.

LogicMan 6 years, 1 month ago

Is our FB nonconference schedule already contracted-out for next year? If so, there's no chance for an MU/KU game except for an unlikely bowl matchup.

I read that the Arrowhead contract has another year to go, and if we don't have a slot, I don't see how we could play MU there. Maybe ISU or WVU instead? One year only, then home-and-home games forever.

But I could see what someone else suggested: KU playing in an annual early season BB tournament in KC with MU, NU, and UMKC, for example. I think all four teams would have to be from different conferences.

canusayduh 6 years, 1 month ago

Finally some common sense!! I am so tired of the whiners at KU and the sense of entitlement that goes with it. MU realized that the conference is totally unstable and decided to leave. Pick up any other team you want. We don't really care!

jesse499 6 years, 1 month ago

Wait tell MU loses every week in the SEC we'll see who the whiners really are!

tbinch 6 years, 1 month ago

Hey, canusayduh, if you don't care why are you reading the Lawrence newspaper!! DUH!

gorilla10 6 years, 1 month ago

If KU asked MU to keep the rivalry going they would say yes in a second......Sorry MU, we don't need you as much as you need us!!!

nixon00 6 years, 1 month ago

I grew up in Lawrence and am a die hard KU fan, but I have also lived in Alabama for the past 11 years, and I have news for MU...You will never survive the SEC football season. I am sorry, but they will destroy you. You may have better luck in basketball, but if you make it far enough you will still get desroyed by KU during March Madness. Bad move.

Jeeveshawk 6 years, 1 month ago

I can see your point, but if MU could survive and do relatively decent in B12 football they can do okay in the SEC, but yes there are teams that will beat them just like how OU, Nebraska (i know they're not in B12 anymore but they whooped MUs ass when they were), and OSU did. But they will be decent in the SEC athletic world.

classclown 6 years, 1 month ago

Every sports pundit in the country has chided KU for its pettiness over the matter.

jesse499 6 years, 1 month ago

Thats what I worry about what some talking mouth on a sports show thinks.Mu was wrong not KU and when they get to the SEC they'll find out how wrong they were.

JayhawkFan1985 6 years, 1 month ago

To me, mizzou asking KU to keep playing them is like a divorced man asking his ex-wife for sex. It ain't gunna happen...

blindrabbit 6 years, 1 month ago

If we need a Missouri game, let us schedule Missouri State; they are an up and coming program and have recently had major upgrades of their facilities. The reason Missouri State is lagging behind is due to the subservient role that they have to Columbia. The Missouri system has a President housed in Columbia that has control over the other schools in the system; this is especially detrimental to UMKC and Missouri State. It is apparent the MU does not want any in-state competition.

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