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Brownback hires $150,000 information technology chief from Florida, but questions arise about qualifications

Jim Mann, left, was Gov. Sam Brownback's choice to lead the administration's IT department until Mann resigned Tuesday afternoon after questions about his education background arose. He graduated from an unaccredited university, often referred to a diploma mill.

Jim Mann, left, was Gov. Sam Brownback's choice to lead the administration's IT department until Mann resigned Tuesday afternoon after questions about his education background arose. He graduated from an unaccredited university, often referred to a diploma mill.

November 7, 2011, 1:43 p.m. Updated November 7, 2011, 6:11 p.m.


— Gov. Sam Brownback on Monday introduced Jim Mann as his new $150,000 chief information technology officer from Florida, but hours later the Brownback administration was fielding questions about Mann’s educational background.

Mann lists a business administration degree from the University of Devonshire. The Chronicle of Higher Education and other reports list that school as among a group of unaccredited schools called diploma mills.

Mann’s online resume says he attended the University of Maryland from 1972 to 1974 and the University of Devonshire from 1993 to 1995.

But Sherienne Jones-Sontag, a spokeswoman for Brownback, said Mann was hired based on his “20 years of top-flight private sector experience.”

Jim Mann, the new executive branch chief information technology officer in Gov. Sam Brownback's administration.

Jim Mann, the new executive branch chief information technology officer in Gov. Sam Brownback's administration.

She said where Mann received his degree wasn’t as important as his work experience because information technology is such a fast-changing area.

Earlier Monday, Brownback said Mann was an important hire.

“This is a position the state desperately needs in order to catch up with advances in technology, to improve communication among and between state agencies and to boost business efficiency, saving taxpayers’ money,” Brownback said at a news conference.

Brownback also issued an executive order that directs all executive branch agency IT directors and staff to report to Mann. That order excludes regents universities.

Mann, 58, said he hoped to centralize IT operations to drive down costs, reduce redundancies and improve communication. He was unavailable for comment when questions came up later about his degree.

Before joining the state, Mann had a consulting business in St. Augustine, Fla.

Before that, he was the chief information technology officer for Service Brands International. He resigned after one year with that company after a dispute with management, he said. Previously, he owned Irishmann Enterprises and served as vice president and chief information officer of Havi Foodservice Worldwide.

Jones-Sontag said Mann’s salary of $150,000 was a bargain. The previous person in that position made $100,000 per year, she said. But Mann is also overseeing the responsibilities of another position called state information technology architect, Jones-Sontag said. The last person in the position retired Oct. 31 and was making $76,887, she said.


David Holroyd 6 years, 7 months ago

At 58 the guy should retire and coming to Kansas to take a $155,000 job as some technology director( again, another fake hollywood title and unneccessary job), Kansas needs jobs and now the Governor hires someone from out of state. Goes to show that the Universities and colleges in Kansas cannot produce anyone to do the job in Kansas.

The Presidents of the Regents schools should be raising heck about this and Dolph could surely write a column about this hiring since he has refused to tackle the hiring of a woman from California to come to the USD 497 and suck on that payroll .

Kansas is being played for a sucker. P T Barnum is alive and well in the state.

Kendall Simmons 6 years, 7 months ago

The only way Dolph will write about this is to complain about KU. I can see his "questions" now: "Why can't KU produce high-quality IT people?" "How long will Grey-Little allow this to continue?" "What are the Regents going to do about this latest embarrassment to this once-great university?"

As far as Brownback and jobs goes? Brownback will soon take credit for this job by way of proclaiming "high value, high earning people and jobs are moving to Kansas because of our focus on economic growth!" - and this $150,000 will be added right into his "growing payroll" figures. Yeesh.

jayhawklawrence 6 years, 7 months ago

While I also am not impressed by this guy's qualifications, I resent the idea that a 58 year old man should retire.

That is a stupid comment.

jafs 6 years, 7 months ago

Is there some reason the governor can't find qualified Kansans to hire for various positions?

kernal 6 years, 7 months ago

Maybe they left KS for better salaries?

Jillian Andrews 6 years, 7 months ago

Maybe they left KS for better living conditions, better government, better civil rights...? Maybe they just found some progressive-mined people passing through and hitched a ride....I know I would....

Katara 6 years, 7 months ago

Florida would not be one of those places.

Lindsey Buscher 6 years, 7 months ago

There are definitely be qualified Kansans but you also have to be a fully qualified crony to be hired by a retardlican.

Abort the Brownbackistan Regime!

ivalueamerica 6 years, 7 months ago

puggy, I am ashamed of your ignorance.

I agree that Brownback is a miserable failure who is abusing Kansas north south east and west and I hope he goes down in history as one of the worst governors of this century.

However, it utter ignorance, callousness and heartless usage of retardation to equate to stupidity is a sign of a person who has his or her own flaws.

Having worked with people with disabilities for most of my life, I have seen with my eyes many people with various cognitive disabilities who are hurt and sometimes cry when they hear their condition equated as being stupid.

even more to the point, I have yet to meet a single person who has a cognitive disability such as mental retardation that has done any of the things that the "retard" label is generally assigned to.

It would be more direct and honest to just call the Brownback Republicans stupid and leave it at that...and perhaps when you think about your choice of words, you might try the label for yourself for a moment.

question4u 6 years, 7 months ago

Someone from Florida with a year of experience as a chief information technology officer for a company that he quit when he couldn't agree with management is more qualified for this position than ANYONE in Kansas?

It's no secret that Flim-Flam Sam thinks that Kansans are a bunch of rubes.

chootspa 6 years, 7 months ago

And for more money than the previous person holding that job according to the state salary database. If the data is correct, he's earning more than anyone in that agency did in 2010 by almost $20,000. I'm sure there was absolutely no political litmus testing or favor paybacks going on. Heavens to Betsy. Why would I even suspect it?

sourpuss 6 years, 7 months ago

When he is re-elected, you will see why he believes this.

Richard Heckler 6 years, 7 months ago

"Is there some reason the governor can't find qualified Kansans to hire for various positions?"

Yes. These people must have long standing credentials as a Nazi RINO who don't talk back and love to be on government tax dollar payrolls with benefits = socialism is good!.

This person must have skills related to screwing up economies and putting more people out of work.

How does laying off people help the economy?

right_down_the_middle 6 years, 7 months ago

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lgreen17 6 years, 7 months ago

The University of Devonshire..where is that? oh, it's is an unaccredited "diploma mill" according to the Chronicle of Higher Education see the link:

Who is this guy, and what experience does he have really? None it looks like.

Wonder what religion he is?

ebyrdstarr 6 years, 7 months ago

The only University of Devonshire I can find is an online diploma mill that doesn't have any actual classes or work involved. People can buy pieces of paper from these places, which are all run by the same people, and claim they hold degrees. Is this where this guy got the business degree that supposedly justifies his top job and high salary?

ebyrdstarr 6 years, 7 months ago

Yep. Among other things. But you can't find an actual website for the "university." Now I want to learn much more about this man to figure out why Sam is offering him this cushy job instead of hiring someone with an advanced degree in computer science from an actual Kansas university. It certainly provides some insight into what value Sam sees in education.

lgreen17 6 years, 7 months ago

Here's his resume.

So there's no one in Kansas that could do this job?

Heck, I have more experience than this guy does.

TNPlates 6 years, 7 months ago

Wow, he saved 68% in IT jobs by moving US jobs oversees. Will State of Kansas IT jobs be far behind?
And what is it with Florida that Sammy keeps going there to hire top Kansas bureaucrats?

chootspa 6 years, 7 months ago

To be fair, he does list many years of CIO experience, even if none of that is for government, and most of it involves cutting costs by outsourcing services to low bidders or overseas workers. Hello, more Texas contracts!

chootspa 6 years, 7 months ago

Ayup. Even though those things end up being more expensive for governments. They can save money for the private sector when they don't have the economics of scale, but there's a reason they start doing work in house when the company is large enough to handle it.

somedude20 6 years, 7 months ago

Blood money! That $150,000 came from cutting the funding to help the children, the old, the sick, the disabled, women, the poor and so on! Think of the people who have died from these cuts while you cash your check, chief

Brownback, you aint no religious fool cause christ showed compassion (and I do not even believe gods), you are just a plain old fool and really a disgrace to the human race!

jonas_opines 6 years, 7 months ago

You don't actually think that the above poster cares about anything other than cutting at "the left" do you? Because he doesn't. No other consistency in principle or ideal is required. No thought is put forth. Look at article, look at political persuasion of the people involved, and choose R) congratulate and agree or D) mock and disagree.

That's it.

jonas_opines 6 years, 7 months ago

Except, of course, that you can't support that statement.

jafs 6 years, 7 months ago

"If you don't like it move."

I wonder why this logic isn't applied to all of those on the right that don't like President Obama.

Shane Garrett 6 years, 7 months ago

Obama is the first President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife. First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000.00 a year at taxpayer expense. I think Brownbacker is just following the leader.

ebyrdstarr 6 years, 7 months ago

Totally off topic, but, no Michelle Obama does not have 22 "personal servants" working for her. The Staff attributable to the first lady is 22, which is actually 2-4 fewer staffers than Laura Bush had by the end of Bush's presidency. And is only about half of the staff size of Jackie Kennedy's staff. I can't find anything to back up your claim about the dog trainer.

kernal 6 years, 7 months ago

I agree that it's ridiculous for Michelle Obama to have 26 servants, when five should suffice, but that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

guesswho 6 years, 7 months ago

They are not servants, they are staff.

Care to cite your reference on the dog trainer?

chootspa 6 years, 7 months ago

But calling them servants makes for such a better dog whistle.

Paul Geisler 6 years, 7 months ago

Something just doesn't seem right with this appointment! I wonder what Brownslack did to change his mind about his willingness to relocate for a job??? And an executive order from Brownslack that mandates that all IT directors within state agencies report directly to this guy??? That should work out well.

kernal 6 years, 7 months ago

Nope. At least there's not one that is an accredited university in the Western world.

Alceste 6 years, 7 months ago

The Sterling credientials may be read here:

Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to find Mann's connection to the Republican Party in's there! But I'm not doing all the work and I feel so under appreciated.....sniffle

jesse499 6 years, 7 months ago

He has to do something with the money from SRS.

xyz 6 years, 7 months ago

This is from one of the many resumes posted for Mann: Educational Background 1993 - 1995: BBA Business - University of Devonshire 1972 - 1974: Business - University of Maryland

Hmmmm...a couple of years at Maryland and then 20 years later it takes him a couple of years to get a diploma from an online diploma mill!!! Come on, FlimFlamSam!

cowboy 6 years, 7 months ago

I'd like to see this clown's transcripts. With no IT degree , nor masters level degree , he is woefully unqualified for this position. One of his major accomplishments is offshoring jobs.

cowboy 6 years, 7 months ago


Down by the Diploma Mills Stream Kendra Mayfield Email 08.28.02

Welcome to Harrington University (also known as the University of San Moritz, University of Palmers Green and University of Devonshire, among others), where anyone can purchase a bachelor's or master's degree -- no tests or coursework required -- for the bargain price of several thousand dollars.

The "university," owned by an American resident in Romania, uses mail-drop addresses in the United Kingdom, printing services in Jerusalem and banking options in Cyprus. The operation has sold 70,000 diplomas in the United States alone, raking in over $100 million, according to diploma mill expert John Bear.

kernal 6 years, 7 months ago

Doubt we'll find any association of Mann with The Fellowship as they are closed mouth and secretive, althought that certainly doesn't preclude the possibility that there is a connection.

Paul R Getto 6 years, 7 months ago

Does it strike anyone as unusual that local bloggers can discover more about this gentleman in a few minutes than the administration or the LJW reporter? I am also shocked this gentleman agreed to move to a state that still (gasp!) has an income tax. How ever will he survive?

tomatogrower 6 years, 7 months ago

So rockchalk1977, is this why Brownback irrationally hired this loser? Because he hates Kansas? I can believe that.

moxibustion 6 years, 7 months ago


This is absolutely disgusting. My 14 year old has more tech knowledge and actually attends a 'real' school.

cowboy 6 years, 7 months ago

maybe he can fix the gov's email which doesn't work , I called them and got an "uhh" as an official response.

vuduchyld 6 years, 7 months ago

Our state needs jobs And there his record really ain't so great Unless you count Executives he's hired from out of state!

Welcome to Brownbackistan!

KansasPerson 6 years, 7 months ago

"Previously, he owned Irishmann Enterprises...."

Yes, he is listed as having been President and Secretary at this corporation, with a Kathleen M. Mann listed as Chairman and Secretary. One website (not theirs) lists their services as "Commercial lithographic printing Ceramics makers services, Glass blowers services, Textile spinners or loomers or weavers services, Taxidermy services, Visual art services, Painters services, Lithographers services, Cartoonists services, Sculptors services" but I don't know how accurate that is. Another source says just "Commercial lithographic printing."

Okay, two years of doing that (2007-2009) and before that he was a VP at Havi Foodservice Worldwide (CJ Online does not say he was Chief Info Officer there, but J-W says he was). Can't find much on them.

CJ Online already has this up:

"State IT chief's degree possibly from unaccredited college"

KansasPerson 6 years, 7 months ago

Oh sorry GovJunkie; you beat me to it. :-)

dinglesmith 6 years, 7 months ago

Stop wading around in the mud and political nonsense. The issue here is that this man is wholly unqualified for the position he was hired for. He is not from Kansas, his degree is from a degree mill, he couldn't get along with his last boss, his job before that was running an IT shop for 19 people. He is not qualified. All of us - left and right - should be angry seeing our tax dollars spent in this way.

Paul R Getto 6 years, 7 months ago

oops; sorry. the 'research' continues. I bet he's part of the C-Street Cult that trained Muscular Sam.

costello 6 years, 7 months ago

Someone at the University of Illinois tracked down some of these diploma mills. Amazing!

Richard Heckler 6 years, 7 months ago

Even Florida Believes The GOP Is Intentionally Sabotaging The Economy To Defeat Obama

Greg Sargent at the Washington Post picks up on a new poll out of Florida that does not bode well for the GOP.

The poll was conducted by Suffolk University and among other things asked voters "Do you think the Republicans are intentionally stalling efforts to jumpstart the economy to insure that Barack Obama is not reelected?"

The results: 49% said yes, 39% said no.

Yikes? Maybe.

Those results certainly dovetail nicely with Obama's reelection plan to run against a do-nothing Congress — particularly as Florida will be a key battleground in 2012 — and moreover reflect the record low approval rating Congress has been getting of late.

cowboy 6 years, 7 months ago

The gov's spokesperson , Sherrienne Nothingbutcrapolacomesouttamymouth says , they hired him for his 20 years of it , not his scholarly pursuits.

He submitted fraudulent info to the state of kansas

ebyrdstarr 6 years, 7 months ago

To me, this is the real question: How did the people involved in screening people for this position take anyone seriously who listed a degree from one of these diploma mills? Doesn't someone vet resumes before they actually offer jobs? Having reviewed resumes and done initial interviews, I would have tossed a resume listing something like this "university" from the get-go.

madcow 6 years, 7 months ago

Yes, it is fraud.

I am sure it is okay though because he has a valid picture ID to vote with.

hammerhawk 6 years, 7 months ago

Good for the governor. He knows that there is no one here in Kansas smart enough to do the IT job. After all, Brownback was voted into office by Kansans.

sciencegeek 6 years, 7 months ago

So much for "character". Apparently that only applies to "other" people. Then again, all those campaign promises weren't exactly honest, were they? Such as:

protecting education (as long as we don't pay for it)

creating jobs (just not for anyone from Kansas)

making government more efficient (by outsourcing everything to crony's companies who actually cost more and do less)

Gotta read the fine print.

Bob_Loblaw 6 years, 7 months ago

Kansas is now technologically....screwed..... I'll bet that Sam somehow "knew" this guy before he applied...if there even was an application process that is.

Brian Hall 6 years, 7 months ago

Complain all we want about this hire but we are stuck with him. The Democrats in office can't complain because then people will just think they are whining about Republicans and Republicans don't want to upset Lord and Savior Sam and have their careers ruined.

yourworstnightmare 6 years, 7 months ago

Faith-based technology.

If you pray hard and long enough, those IT problems will be solved by jesus.

somemisfits 6 years, 7 months ago

Does Jesus cover Windows, OS X, AND Linux?

tecuani 6 years, 7 months ago

Actually, I would disagree. $150K is pretty standard (if not a little low) for a CITO or CIO in the private sector. But of course that is someone with at least a DECADE of experience in IT.

I believe this person will basically be in charge of the WAN that interconnects nearly every state agency with each other and with the internet. Also, as the architect, he will be in charge of the consolidation movement that they are proposing.

I am just so happy that my friends in the AG affiliated agency should be insulated from this baboon.

chootspa 6 years, 7 months ago

He's going to be the information architect as well as the CITO? I first read it as he was going to supervise that position, but I guess he's going to take it over. We're so screwed.

A visionary could save the state money and leverage open source and hosted solutions to make a new system that was unified and both cost effective and attractive. A crony hack could hire his buds to do contract work and refuse to think flexibly about the future. Guess which I think will happen here?

chootspa 6 years, 7 months ago

The position should be worth that much, but it should be occupied with someone who is visionary and qualified. He doesn't really seem either of those things.

Scott Tichenor 6 years, 7 months ago

Never mind that there are eminently qualified IT professionals who are Kansas taxpayers that could have done a better job than this diploma mill Florida hire will. The Republicans elected this big fat turd and they can now eat their own dog food. What a clown.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 7 months ago

Wow. You managed to drag Obama into even this discussion.

If you could be irrelevant in an artful way, that'd be in someway admirable. But you can't, and it isn't.

jonas_opines 6 years, 7 months ago

So then are you denying that you possess frothing, irrational, obsessive hatred, or are you saying that it's simply okay since so many people that you loathe appear to you to be the same?

Alex Parker 6 years, 7 months ago

Let's stay on topic and away from these personal attacks, folks.

Keith 6 years, 7 months ago

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 7 months ago

This guy's primary job is to force out all the IT directors in the various departments of state government.

You don't need a college degree to be a bull in a china shop.

tecuani 6 years, 7 months ago

Spear Phishing Target Engaged....

Jim Mann

I think someone should let Anonymous know about this hire...

Joe Hyde 6 years, 7 months ago

Hoping Kansas survives the extremist governorship methods of Sam Brownback.

sourpuss 6 years, 7 months ago

Honestly, this guy does not sound at all qualified and now he's replacing TWO positions at the "bargain" savings of around $26,000/year. Well, maybe he'll surprise us. In a good way?

chootspa 6 years, 7 months ago

I read it as overseeing, not replacing the information architect position. If he's replacing that one, we're in big big trouble. He's wholly unqualified for that spot.

phsxtchr 6 years, 7 months ago

On Jim Mann's resume ( he makes this claim: "Won First Place Awards at Microsoft's Window World Open for the development of strategic business applications. Employee Information Access Systems (1997) and Remote Worker Support Systems (1996)" while working for Lawson Products, Inc.

But this Chicago Tribune article about the 1996 Window's World Open says that the application that won the Remote Worker Support Systems award was developed by RR Systems, Inc. FOR Lawson Products:

Is Mr. Mann taking credit for an application developed by someone else?

phsxtchr 6 years, 7 months ago

The same is true about the 1997 award as well. The application was developed by RR Systems for the company Mann worked for:

jayhawklawrence 6 years, 7 months ago

His resume does not list any actual programming skills so I would assume he has been taking credit for a long time from the real IT guys that put in thousands of hours and untold all nighters to hone their craft.

chootspa 6 years, 7 months ago

My long hours of doing actual homework beg to differ with you on that.

woodscolt 6 years, 7 months ago

Brownback also issued an executive order that directs all executive branch agency IT directors and staff to report to Mann. That order excludes regents universities.

Great, clownback brings a guy in who has a "pretend degree" and everyone else, whom may actually have legitimate degrees and a lot of service to this state are not only passed over but now have to mind this phony. I know, the state is broke and I know where we could have saved 150G. There is no end to this guys arrogance and spending.

kernal 6 years, 7 months ago

My best to the IT personnel of the various departments for the State of Kansas for what you will be dealing with. I don't doubt for a minute that the current IT people will be doing most of the work. Would serve Brownback right if they all find other jobs and leave. I bet at least half of them could.

tomatogrower 6 years, 7 months ago

No wonder he is so friendly with Brownback. Fellow liars.

tomatogrower 6 years, 7 months ago

There are already people working for the state who could have done this job, and for less money. How can any conservative defend this? You talk about wasting government money, yet it's ok to hire someone unqualified for more money than most citizens of Kansas earn.

Brownback is the most hypocritical low life creep in politics. I'd rather have someone who has affairs in office than this lying jerk. He calls himself a Christian? He lies about that too. He is an immoral hypocrite. It's going to take Kansas a long time to recover from this. Surely this could be grounds for recall. Surely, we can figure out some way to get this guy out of office before he gives all our tax money to people from Florida. Go back to Florida, all of you Brownback creeps. And take him with you.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 6 years, 7 months ago

Tomato. you are my kind of person! I have wondered for years how this jerk ever got off the ground in the election, he was a lousy senator and is an equally lousy governer (CEO of the State of Kansas) Voted in by the religious right wingnut population. Brownbackwards will live in infamy for all of history.

KansasPerson 6 years, 7 months ago

"This resume has been removed from public view by the job seeker."

Wow, that was fast!!

KansasPerson 6 years, 7 months ago

The one observant put up ( -- two main comments above mine (not including threaded responses if any).

xyz 6 years, 7 months ago

Jimbob isn't very thorough. His resume at these 3 links are still posted as of 9:42 pm. C'mon, man, shape up! Thoroughly covering your tracks is a skill I'd bet that FlimFlamSam values highly in his hired shills.

nekansan 6 years, 7 months ago

So the guy has a degree from a university that was closed by the FTC as a scam, and.....

One of his key accomplishments listed on his resume is cutting his IT budget 68% by outsourcing IT overseas, sounds like just what we need in Kansas to help stimulate our economy and create jobs.

emceelean 6 years, 7 months ago

While I think it is intellectually dishonest to hold an unaccredited degree, is it not possible that Mann might be very skilled as an administrator and IT professional? There are many aspects of this that are unseemly, but I'm not prepared to castigate him based on his lack of an accredited degree.

ebyrdstarr 6 years, 7 months ago

I don't particularly care about his lack of accredited degree. I care a great deal about his buying a piece of paper that says "Degree" and then declaring on a resume that he has a bachelor's degree. To me, that says a lot about his integrity, his substance, and his character. It also makes me question the process used by the Governor's office in screening applicants, interviewing them, and in ultimately selecting hires.

If I were hiring and saw a resume listing a "degree" like that, I would throw the resume away and never consider giving that person an interview. Not because the candidate didn't have an accredited degree, but simply because if that candidate thinks a bought and paid for fake degree is as good as the real thing, what else will that candidate fake? What else would that candidate try to scam me about?

woodscolt 6 years, 7 months ago

It is easy to explain. He is clownbacks guy, doesn't matter if he is qualified or has any integrity what so ever. And furthermore, all you other people associated with the states IT will mind my guy because he's my guy and that is that. If you don't I will eliminate your job in the name of "Well we have to make tuff decisions because the state is broke".

Bob_Keeshan 6 years, 7 months ago

The arrogance of the right knows no bounds.

I am particularly enjoying posters like rockchack something and toe and ksrush who are defending this.

Or the poster who decided this is OK because Obama. No real reason, just the word Obama.

The word "sheep" comes to mind, but to bandy that about would be an insult to farm animals.

another_right_wing_nut 6 years, 7 months ago

DISCLAIMER: isn't letting me post my source links. If you are interested in my source links, just let me know.

All of you crazy Liberals are right. Bring back Kathleen and her common sense.

You know, like giving $700,000 to her friend. Or appointing a gal from North Carolina instead of a Kansan for the Kansas Bioscience Authority.

Instead of hating so much, why don't you sit down, be quite and learn to quit being so negative all of the time. I love you all, even those that express your deep hatred toward Governor Brownback. Put down your Mac, shut off your iPod, turn up your heat and settle in with a nice dessert.

Y'all really need to learn to care about things of great importance like volunteering to empower those kids whose parents don't [or can't] properly support. Or learn to be grateful that our state has lower unemployement rates than the majority of the US of A.

That is all. Please return to your blind and selfish hatred.


just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 7 months ago

Oh, please, don't go so soon. You need to teach us the right pronunciation of baaaaaaa!!!!!!.

tomatogrower 6 years, 7 months ago

So you aren't for fiscal responsibility? So you aren't for smaller government? So you are for hiring incompetent people? You conservatives really confuse me. Make up your mind already.

another_right_wing_nut 6 years, 7 months ago

@Agnostick, links sent.

@tomatogrower and @Fretster, that's just it. I've never talked to the guy, so I really don't know his level of expertise. And I definitely wouldn't hire anybody by just reading their resume, so you asking me to decipher his knowledge from a piece of paper is quite frankly not practical.

tomatogrower 6 years, 7 months ago

Yet, he has a fake degree. That's the same as lying. This is grounds for not hiring the guy. If he didn't have a degree, but was really talented, no problem with me. But he lied about have a college degree. It's a slap in the face to those of us who worked hard to get a degree.

Alex Parker 6 years, 7 months ago

How bizarre. Not sure what to tell you. I'll look into it.

another_right_wing_nut 6 years, 7 months ago

The only 'filter' that makes sense to me is the length of the URL?

another_right_wing_nut 6 years, 7 months ago

Well, don't look at my resume because it isn't that impressive, but I guess I know a thing or two about web development ...

another_right_wing_nut 6 years, 7 months ago

Well, crap. I guess I know nothing. Glad you didn't check out my resume!

another_right_wing_nut 6 years, 7 months ago

Isn't it great when somebody starts with name calling -- as the majority, if not all of the left-wing posters have -- to start off an argument? Annoying, isn't it?

My point was to be hypocritical. When we call names, nobody takes the name-calling party seriously. Off to answer your other post.

another_right_wing_nut 6 years, 7 months ago

To anybody and everybody who continues to live a hypocritical lifestyle, while blasting others for having a different opinion.

As for my comment as a whole, I admit I deviated quite a bit from the original news article. I just got so tired of reading comment after comment of senseless drivel; I had to post something!

Anyway, my original tongue-in-cheek comment was a generalized statement to Liberals. And only in regards to those posting their opinions and 'facts' about this news article.

Case in point are those posting links to a resume and claiming somebody isn't qualified. As I said to another person that responded to my original message, who in their right mind would read a resume and decide on the spot to hire said person? That's why we have an interview process ;-)

As for the actual article, I really don't know what to think. I have little free time to do any degree of research [I created time out of thin air to find those links re: Sebelius :p]. What I do know is I voted Governor Brownback into office and I trust his appointment UNTIL said appointment proves to be incompetent. This is America -- innocent until proven guilty, not guilty because you're a Christian and a Republican, guilty even if you're just a Republican.


pace 6 years, 7 months ago

He would of been wiser to omit the degree. He probably wasn't smart enough to do that

Richard Heckler 6 years, 7 months ago

Too many voters young and old stay home.

That is how we got Brownback and the RINO party in general. Brownback works for the Koch family money and the Wal-Mart family money keep this in mind.

Democrats and true republicans need to stick together for we are getting duped. The right wing RINO's quietly took control of the republican party in order to avoid the ballot process required to establish a new party.

RINO's do not like republicans or democrats. With lots of money they voted out republicans over the years until absolute control was achieved.

VOTERS NEED TO PAY ATTENTION!! It may well be taking place within the democratic party as well.

Flap Doodle 6 years, 7 months ago

You only spammed two threads with this post? You're slipping, merrill. Back in the day you'd have posted this twaddle at least half a dozen times.

Richard Heckler 6 years, 7 months ago

In two states, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, GOP legislators have introduced bills that would change how electoral votes—a candidate needs 270 of the 538 to win the presidency—are awarded in a presidential election. Under the current system, the winner of the statewide popular vote receives all of the electoral votes from that state.

In Pennsylvania, a secretive nonprofit group called All Votes Matter has been pushing the electoral vote scheme since May. All Votes Matter has close ties to the Pennsylvania GOP—it hired a number of former top state Senate staffers-turned-lobbyists. "It was pretty much the Senate GOP All Star Lobbying Team and [former state House Democratic Counsel Bill] Sloane," Peter DeCoursey, the bureau chief for Capitolwire, a newswire that's read religiously by Harrisburg insiders*, explained in September.

All Votes Matter doesn't disclose its donors "as a matter of policy, per the request of many of them," Gerow told Mother Jones. "It's their legal right not to have it disclosed, and they don't want it disclosed so they're not subject to media calls and other potential harassment," he added. All Votes Matter has "fully and completely complied with the law and will continue to do so," Gerow said, and "if those who don't agree with the law want to change it, it certainly is their right to do that."

There's no law that says All Votes Matter has to disclose where its money comes from. But opponents of the electoral college changes are outraged that voters are being kept in the dark about who's behind such a potentially consequential reform. "This is an effort to fundamentally change the way Pennsylvania conducts its presidential elections, in my view to rig the election," says Democratic state Sen. Daylin Leach. "They raised an awful lot of money very quickly—$300,000 in just a few days. We're all curious where that level of funding comes from."

Carolyn Fiddler, a spokeswoman for the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, which assists Democrats in state-level races around the country, says: "Given the potential impact of this measure this group is lobbying for, not just for Pennsylvanians but for presidential politics and Americans in general, the public has a right to know who's behind it."

Transparency advocates say it's not enough to just know who is doing the lobbying—voters should also know who is paying the bills. "The old adage is that actions speak louder than words, and deeper pockets allow for more action," says Michael Beckel, a spokesman for the Center for Responsive Politics. "Without disclosure, the public is unable to fully hold accountable the companies and organizations that have hired these lobbyists in the first place."

Flap Doodle 6 years, 7 months ago

And you slimed this onto three threads.......

Bob Forer 6 years, 7 months ago

If Brownback dropped dead today I would become a Christian, as that event would prove that a Christian God does exist. However, that ain't gonna happen, and I will remain a non-believer,. If God existed he would wipe charlatans like Brownback off the face of the earth, considering how much suffering he has caused other human beings.

mloburgio 6 years, 7 months ago

Republicans hate education because they couldn’t hack it in school

tomatogrower 6 years, 7 months ago

So you agree with bringing in people from out of state who have fake degrees and paying them more tax money than the previous people? I'll bet you really admired Madoff too. Why not address the issue that Brownback's move goes against professed conservative policy, yet you still support him.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 7 months ago

You've violated them so many times in your many guises, I figured that you just took them as a checklist for your own posting behavior.

jafs 6 years, 7 months ago

"keeps you leftist...extremist hater trolls shorts in a bunch"

Why is it ok to throw that sort of insulting disrespectful stuff around, as long as you don't single anybody out?

jafs 6 years, 7 months ago

And, how does your above post not violate them?

jayhawklawrence 6 years, 7 months ago

Maybe this is a good time to reflect on the $135 million dollar contract with Accenture of Austin, TX that Brownback announced around the time of his "prayer meeting" in Texas.

So what exactly is the "Kansas way" of doing things according to Brownback?

jayhawklawrence 6 years, 7 months ago

You have to wonder what kind of shenanigans this guy has been up to ever since he started getting involved in Kansas politics. What kind of games did he play when he was Secretary of Agriculture and who is the puppet master behind the scenes.

Today we have a situation where monopolies headed by rich and powerful people control our food supply. Brownback has been acting like an "agent of influence" for powerful people who have no real interest in the welfare of average Kansans.

dogsandcats 6 years, 7 months ago

Don't tell him that! Now he's going to make the internet illegal too.

ku_for_me 6 years, 7 months ago

Be fair, I'm sure the guy has some great references. Like Brownback's illegal immigrant house-maid Juanita Chiquita...

Seriously...executives in IT are now just playing the Con-game with state agencies...they've realized its easy to "wow" techno-morons in an interview, and are getting jobs they don't qualify for at all.

Getaroom 6 years, 7 months ago

Lack of academic credentials are of no issue with Rev Gov Brownbackward and as long as the "IT puppet man" reads the same bible, believes in the same sky god and is in lock-step with his crusade to prepare Kansas for the second coming of the LORD - all is well. Really - it is that simple minded. It is no more or less a fantasy than Ron Paul's perfect "Free Market" delusion. Cram religion down the throats of the masses, gain dominion over all and voila! Done deal.
Meanwhile, Obama hateful "it's_just_ math" will continue to sing a one note song, run that one trick pony show all the way into the next century.

Kate Rogge 6 years, 7 months ago

Were any of these state government jobs Governor Brownback has filled with ideologues and incompetents from Florida actually ever advertised to the public? Has there ever been any justification for the substantial jumps in salaries? Who has oversight responsibility here?

lawslady 6 years, 7 months ago

Another of his Dominion friends. (google dominionism). Intent upon taking over the country. One appointment at a time. Doesn't matter that the man's diploma is a fake one. (And if he is not lying about how it took him 2 years to get it, he's dumber than most. You can buy one today!). Everything can be explained and condoned, as long as it's done in God's name.

Glenn Reed 6 years, 7 months ago

This article was updated at 6:11pm last night, to reflect the source of this guy's diploma.

Claiming a diploma from a fake college is equal to lying about having a degree.

Honestly, I was expecting an article announcing the position to be open, considering the fact that he lied on his resume.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 7 months ago

Brownback's nothing if not a narcissist. He won't admit any mistakes unless he's dragged kicking and screaming to it.

Boston_Corbett 6 years, 7 months ago


And anyone stupid enough to put a fake college degree on an internet circulated resume really can't be very smart to begin with.

tolawdjk 6 years, 7 months ago

A surplus means you can spend it on unqualified hires?

jayhawklawrence 6 years, 7 months ago

Keep in mind that Brownback will surely take credit for that even though he benefits from that work of the last two administrations. What he has done has been to gut social services and education in ways that were unnecessary and to set the stage for his big payoff to his handlers, a huge reduction in taxes.

sciencegeek 6 years, 7 months ago

It isn't about competence, it's about being a True Believer and an ultra-conservative "Christian". It isn't about improving the state of Kansas, it's about remaking it in the image of a select few, backed by a lot of money. It isn't about employing Kansans, it's about outsourcing to friends who believe in making money for themselves.

As a result, Kansas is becoming more of a laughingstock. If it wasn't enough to have the Phelps plague, and cutting funding for arts and education, and bringing in faith-based anything, and holding prayer meeting in state offices on a regular basis, now we hire someone whose false resume is available to anyone with an internet connection. What an incentive to bring more jobs to the state, let alone to rural communities! It's gone from embarrassing to humiliating.

The only thing worse than this is that the wingnuts in the legislature are going to keep supporting this. God help us (the real God, that is).

trinity 6 years, 7 months ago

And us front line staff folk STILL have not had even a slight cost of living increase for oh, let's see, nearly FIVE years now??? UGH. Unreal. Just unreal. This of course aside from this maroon sliding in to a 150k per year job with a phoney degree?? UGH.

pickles1 6 years, 7 months ago

If you focus on what the article says, this is only a budget reduce of $26,887. I personally believe that if the government wants to pay someone $150,000 we better be %100 positive that he has the right qualifications for the job. Brownback says that this will save taxpayer money. First, it will only be saving a small amount, an amount that no one will even notice. Second, Brownback should be focusing on what the voters want. It always seems like he does the exact opposite. There are millions of people living in America. Why does Brownback pick the one that cheated his way to success? That is not the kind of influence we need in the state of Kansas. If I was hiring an IT worker, I would pick some one with TRUE education, experience and someone who is younger. Mann is 58. Instead of hiring some one older, lets pick some one younger who can work with the state for years and years to come.

Kendall Simmons 6 years, 7 months ago

I agree...his age should have nothing to do with this, and I'm disappointed in the people who want to bring it up.

It's his lying that we should focus on and shame the governor about...not the man's age. I mean...a phony degree? And lying about awards he's won? Those goes to the core of the man's integrity...or lack of same.

Eric Neuteboom 6 years, 7 months ago

"Do you hate the arts?"





I'm pro-life.

"Welcome aboard! By the way, do you have any experience? No? That's alright, doesn't matter anyway."

Jimo 6 years, 7 months ago

I see nothing in this guy's resume that makes him more qualified than Herb Cain.

Mann must be quite an interviewee to have landed this position.

"Final Question, Mr. Mann: if you were a Häagen-Dazs ice cream flavor what flavor would you be? (And please don't say Black Walnut.)"

true_patriot 6 years, 7 months ago

We saw how well the whole crony-from-Florida thing worked out with SRS. Here we go for round two. Overpaid incompetent cronyism to corrupt and ruin state services.

Heckuva job, Brownie!

another_right_wing_nut 6 years, 7 months ago

PS - LJW, you need to fix your comment threading. It'd be nice if 'newer' posts were somehow highlighted so that I can quickly scan the page for replies without having to go comment-by-comment.


jayhawklawrence 6 years, 7 months ago

I think doing business with Kansans should be a priority and any money our tax dollars spend should first go to Kansans.

Look at how China does business with other countries. By the time you get set up in China they practically own you and they get all your technology for almost nothing.

We need people who have some business savy who KNOW how to negotiate and develop creative solutions.

Let's just stop voting for these people and TRY to find some people with common sense.

beatrice 6 years, 7 months ago

If I had to work for the new IT guy, I'd buy all kinds of bogus degrees and plaster my office wall with them just to make fun of him.

jaywalker 6 years, 7 months ago

The pure hatred for Governor Brownback is disturbing. More than 200 comments on this? And polarization is supposedly a specific party problem?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 7 months ago

You have to understand that jaywalker thinks that being "in the middle" is a guarantee of being right, and then tries to accomplish that by arbitrarily flitting around defending the indefensible.

jaywalker 6 years, 7 months ago

Excellent, bozo. Perhaps I'd earn your respect if I was as close-minded and one-sided as yourself? And for the thousandth time I will request citation, though I know it won't be forthcoming, this time for my "defending the indefensible". Oooh, how I love the the chirp of crickets.

jaywalker 6 years, 7 months ago

Please specify which part of my post is partisan. And exactly how do you know the hire is idiotic?

jaywalker 6 years, 7 months ago

You pointed out what was partisan with my post? My asking if polarization is supposed to be a one party problem? Wow. With that sort of astute deduction I wonder what you might divine if I state that I like my coffee black.
And while I know nothing of Devonshire, it's interesting you're willing to discount the man's career history and focus on one piece of paper. That automatically means the hire is 'idiotic'? Mmkay, punkin.

jaywalker 6 years, 7 months ago

First, you didn't point out jack. You simply asserted something and just because you wrote it doesn't make it true. Second, I don't "support" Brownback nor this particular hire by any stretch. My original post was simple surprise at how a seemingly innocuous story could generate 200 plus comments, and the only logical explanation is unbridled vitriol for the Governor, which is readily apparent on these boards with any mention of his name. Last, I never disputed the diploma mill angle but I'd love for you to point out how the "man is unfit for the job" from what's been "covered above." There's certainly nothing in the article nor in the comments, at least that I saw.
And yes, punkin', when I encounter irrational children it seems prudent to converse with them in soft, gentle tones and pet names. It's not "all I got", just maturation-specific.

beatrice 6 years, 7 months ago

Jay, I don't see it as hatred for Brownback (although there is plenty of that to go around) as much as it is disgust at a governor acting as if he can play above the rules. He hired someone in a significant position overseeing others who attempted to pass a bogus degree off as legitimate, and then Brownback stepped up and defended the action by claiming it unimportant. Really? Bogus degrees on a resume are now something we should ignore? I don't think so. This is about a governor's abuse of his powers and people should be commenting. Certainly, there is piling on by those who dislike Brownback, but others who support his should be upset as well.

And who ever suggests that polarization is specific to one party? I'm pretty sure everyone just thinks it is always the fault of the OTHER party.

jaywalker 6 years, 7 months ago

Love that last line! Too true.
And your line "although there is plenty of that to go around" is basically what I was getting at originally. I didn't mean that people hate Brownback because of this particular story, just that over 200 comments on this string in less than a day points to severe aversion of the man. It's not that interesting a story. But people see his name and Whammo!

To be honest, I truly don't know that much about him nor care, probably like yourself. It's stomach churning enough to follow the politicians we have in our states. As to the hire, I kind of doubt he was trying to pass off the degree. It's not like you can hide something like that or believe nobody is going to look into it before a hire. My guess is, and it is a somewhat educated one as I know a few people who've done this, the guy was already an expert in the field and knew he needed a degree for certain positions, didn't want to waste the money or the time on something he could be teaching, so got a quick-cheap piece of paper. Wouldn't have to mean he's not qualified. And I imagine that's what the Gov was getting at when he deemed it 'unimportant.' But this, of course, is complete speculation. I doubt the Governor's office would hire a boob with full knowledge the public would be aware of the situation, but then again it's difficult to rely on the collective intelligence of any political group any more. Maybe the guy is a bum.

Brownback abused his powers here? How so?

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