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Archive for Sunday, November 6, 2011

Three being treated in Lawrence after overdosing

November 6, 2011, 4:12 a.m. Updated November 6, 2011, 9:20 p.m.

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Lawrence Police are investigating a multiple overdose, involving three people in the 3400 block of Scioto Drive Sunday morning. Police and Fire/Medical were dispatched just before 3:40 a.m., according to Journal-World news partner Operation 100.

Police arrived and found three people, all breathing but unresponsive at the scene. Initial reports are "recreational drug use."

No other details were immediately available as of late Sunday.

Comments

ignatius_j_reilly 3 years, 1 month ago

Well, I hope for the best for these folks, both physically and mentally. The address given is a little strange. There must only be a few residences on Scioto Dr., if any at all. It's not far from the Hy-Vee at Kasold & Clinton Pkwy, with tons of nearby apartments. Wonder if it was just kids walking around stoned on whatever.

kawrivercrow 3 years, 1 month ago

Like a heart attack or stroke or 'other legitimate, more serious medical issue' in an obese person who chose to shovel garbage into their piehole for decades while watching themselves circle the drain?

The difference between a teen who has a catastrophic event from experimenting with unpredictable drugs and the typical fatty is that the fatty knowingly indulged in their drug of choice for years and years instead of a one-time trip to the buffet.

I think that all people who deliberately damage themselves should be left to die, don't you?

ignatius_j_reilly 3 years, 1 month ago

And not every person who overdoses did it from illegal drugs, and on purpose. It's quite easy to mix medications, etc.

The point is it's stupid to judge kids making poor decisions harsher than people who have -- mostly, but not all, I'll agree -- been making poor decisions for decades or for all of their lives. It really is a matter of one mistake vs. a lifetime of mistakes.

You seem to have good sense, so it's surprising you don't take more issue with cheeseburger implying that these people don't deserve as much medical attention as the food-stuffing heart attack patients.

I think cheeseburger likes to stir the pot, and kawrivercrow made an excellent counter-point based in logic and the real world. In reality, we should have sympathy for people in both situations.

ignatius_j_reilly 3 years, 1 month ago

"Finally, I'm not advocating obesity. It i something that many need to be aware of and deal with. It simply makes a poor analogy to deal with drug abuse."

If you're going to demonize people doing drugs and making a self-inflicted mistake, you need to demonize the people eating too much and making a self-inflicted mistake too. It's true not all obese people are that way because of eating, but many (didn't say 'most' because I have no backing research) are. Whether their drugs are needed for survival, each became addicted and put themselves into a bad position. If obese people should be forgiven for abusing a drug that started as sustenance, we can make the excuse that a drug addict was pressured into it or didn't realize what he was doing.

Remember, this is all coming from the perspective of 'do overdosing patients deserve less emergency care than obese patients with weight-related emergencies, or less emergency care than anyone else, regardless of race, religion or creed, or poor decision?' To me, we all deserve emergency care. It's what we all pay taxes for; it's part of a humane society.

You know, we're talking about drug abusers and food abusers, but often people can be both. Maybe it's just a matter of age. People with addictive personalities will use anything to destroy themselves. Everyone up and down the line deserves our support, and emergency services, not condemnation.

shinythings 3 years, 1 month ago

So... by your theory, it would be more acceptable for me to go on the crystal meth diet than to overeat. Then I'd qualify as being a human worthy of medical care? Interesting theory. Maybe we could have weight scales attached to our phones when we call 911 so we don't waste time going to the homes of the overweight.

Well, count me in on that plan! Clearly the drug addicts are making more rational decisions and are the better future citizens. Also... as long as they don't smile and show their rotten teeth they're better looking people and the world could use a few more of those.

ignatius_j_reilly 3 years, 1 month ago

Thank you, kawrivercrow. Excellent comment.

parco814 3 years, 1 month ago

cheeseburger and kawrivercrow are both wrong. Medical professionals have a duty to help those in need of medical attention. Moralizing and speculating about the choices that people whose lives are endangered did or did not make is not the province of doctors, nurses, et al. It's the province of some people on these message boards, apparently, and what the hell good does it do anyone?

beatrice 3 years, 1 month ago

Like someone crashing their vehicle while driving drunk?

beckyk 3 years, 1 month ago

R U serious? Self righteous people like you have to eat their words a lot of times. How dare you call these people morons! If you don't call this a serious issue then maybe you need your head examined! There are alot more "respectable" people that do drugs then you think, they just have the money to hush it up. I am just glad that all 3 units were there to help. Buddy you need to go to church and ask for forgiveness for thinking u are above everybody else. I could go on & on but you really aren't with the effort! Jerk!

topflight 3 years, 1 month ago

Must have been having a Wakarusa Festival reunion.

Dixie Jones 3 years, 1 month ago

Cheeseburger, you dont consider a overdose a legitimate more serious medical issue ? and what makes these three indiv's not honest, respectable and decent people?? Do you know them? No i didnt figure you did , So how can you pass judgement on the? Do you know the whole story ? No didnt figure that one either. Do i know them ??? NOPE.. but Like most people in the world i do not judge anyone. IF this were your family member needing medical assistance i bet it would be a legitimate serious medical issue. It doesnt matter the nature of the overdose all is considered a legitimate serious medical issue.And im pretty sure that had there been a more serious medical issue elsewhere the medic/EMTs/dispatchers would of known what actions to take and pull however many needed units off this issue and respond to the emergency leaving fewer but yet still responsible professionals on the call . Again your judging. This time the knowledge of the medical responding teams in lawrence . I hope that everyone involved in this incident make full recovery, and that they dont listen to Morons like cheesebuger,,,oops CB was that judgemental of me ?

Lana Christie-Hayes 3 years, 1 month ago

Maybe they should pay more attention to those of you (cheeseburger) .. that need a HEART transplant!.. figuritivly speaking of course. (what a heartless moron)

Raphael 3 years, 1 month ago

So you're all grown up now and smart, and never do anything wrong? Wow - Very impressive.

parco814 3 years, 1 month ago

You heard it here first (or worst), folks. Providing medical attention to people who have broken the law and/or abused their bodies means that other, more moral and intelligent people will be deprived of said care. It's an either/or case, a zero sum game. Let the former die and rot so that the latter can be saved.

True, few people have more experience in the realm of stupidity than does cheeseburger, so I guess his view carries some weight.

jhawkinsf 3 years, 1 month ago

Legalize all this stuff. All that money we spend on the "war on drugs" will be saved. Then we can spend the money on ambulances, E.R. staff and cemetery plots. Oh wait, no savings, never mind.

pizzapete 3 years, 1 month ago

Actually legalizing would save money. Imagine buying booze and having no idea if it was 10, 50, or 100 proof. That is the problem with illegal drugs. No one is ever sure of the purity of the drugs they are taking.

jhawkinsf 3 years, 1 month ago

So the money saved on the war on drugs will be spent on another government bureaucracy that will test and administer the drugs. With the cost spread out amongst all taxpayers. So the non-users will be subsidizing the costs of the drug users. Yep, sign me up that that one.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 1 month ago

Yep... Only this new government bureaucracy will not mistakenly kick in your door in the middle of the night and shoot you or your dog for looking at them.

cabocrazed 3 years, 1 month ago

Fine - I'll judge them then.

They are stupid, stupid, stupid.

Recreational drug use that ends up as a overdose is stupid - as alcohol is. First of all, do you realize it can kill you? Secondly, do you realize how many resources taking care of these people ties up - all in the name of fun? The EMS workers, nurses, doctors, technicians, and hospital bed ? Now multiply that by 3.

Be considerate of others. Before you dabble in drugs or alcohol, think of how your actions are going to affect others - drivers, medical personnel, etc.

kernal 3 years, 1 month ago

Plus the horrendous monetary cost! One incident like this can wipe out a college fund.

tanaumaga 3 years, 1 month ago

it's a joke. and that's a fact. are we straight?

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 1 month ago

The only way pot brownies are going to hurt anyone is if you made a literal ton of them and they fell on you.

beatrice 3 years, 1 month ago

Or you ate a ton of them and got so fat from the processed sugar that you have a heart attack.

Liberty275 3 years, 1 month ago

You could always try to eat your way out.

kernal 3 years, 1 month ago

Legal drugs used for the wrong reasons is not recreation...it's stupidity and ignorance.

Parents, please keep an eye on your medications, as well as your parents, if you have kids. No matter how "good" you know your children are, it's still a temptation for many. Also, please have the "substance abuse" talk with them when you have the sex talk. Often times they go hand in hand.

Liberty275 3 years, 1 month ago

Legalize drugs, tax them, regulate the commercial sale and put in a new aisle at walmart. I'd rather see people using walmart-quality recreational drugs than putting just whatever they can find on the local street corner at midnight into their bodies. The only real problem is getting the Chinese to grow/manufacture the drugs for next to nothing so they can get the walmart contract.

Maybe Z's could have a premium line of fair-trade drugs to go with their $5 lattes for people with too much taste to go to walmart. And you could be getting it from college girls. That's always an added bonus.

Nah, America is too stupid for that. It's better to keep it in the shadows so it can keep killing people or sending them to the hospital, probably on our dime.

beatrice 3 years, 1 month ago

Come on L275, you are completely off base here and you don't even realize it. You should stand for legalizing drugs without taxation. This pro-taxation bent of yours will ruin our country.

Becky Smith 3 years, 1 month ago

Don't you see that it states "Inital Reports" state that it was recreational. Until you know exactly what is going on don't be rude and cruel. Maybe say a prayer for them. Do you donate to help people struggling? I do...try it out than judge

kawrivercrow 3 years, 1 month ago

@ none2: You are enabling others (and possibly yourself) to die of Piehole Disease with your flimsy rationalizations. We all live and die by the choices we make. However, the same peer pressure that promotes drug use also runs parallel to the permissive fat acceptance dogma that promotes food abuse. Hopefully Cheeseburger will not take your cue and dig himself even deeper with a fork and spoon.

BTW - 'water retention' as a cause of obesity almost made me laugh so hard I spewed green tea on the keyboard. You see, the choice of green tea over soda is just one of many choices I make that prevent Piehole Disease. A low-cal Mediterranean diet is another. Quit pretending the epidemic of obesity is due to pregnancy, water retention and hypothyroidism. That's just silly.

bookemdano 3 years, 1 month ago

The linked source where LJW got their information from (presumably someone transcribing police scanner transmissions) states that it was supposedly a mixture of GHB, Ecstasy, Adderol, and alcohol. Sounds pretty recreational to me.

I'm also familiar with the house where this occurred and let's just say I'm not surprised at all. I don't wish them any harm, but just calling a spade a spade.

sherbert 3 years, 1 month ago

maybe it was alcohol. all 3 could have taken too many shots and passed out. legally.

Christine Anderson 3 years, 1 month ago

The use of illegal recreational drugs IS stupid! I have loved ones who are addicts, and I still say it is stupid. It's about people being in pain and doing stupid things to deaden it.

KuGal12426 3 years, 1 month ago

My thoughts are with those in any kind of unfortunate condition as well as their families.

On another note, to address the hobby commentators...

I hope that a tragedy or a trying circumstance never strikes the lives of any of those who feel justified in exhibiting blatant disrespect to their fellow members of society. I think that realizing how terrible they've been toward complete strangers in their most difficult moments may be even more pain than they can bear.

That is, unless they are indeed simply heartless and so self-righteous that they don't see the error in their ways. In that case, I rely upon the ljworld.com staff to delete their comments before they cause further pain.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 1 month ago

So, did they overdose on prescription drugs? Please, do tell.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 1 month ago

The National Post; Nov. 1, 2011 - U.S. prescription drug overdose ‘epidemic’ kills more than cocaine and heroin. "Lethal overdoses from prescription painkillers have tripled in the past decade and now account for more deaths than heroin and cocaine combined, U.S. health authorities said Tuesday."

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/11/01/u-s-prescription-drug-overdose-epidemic-kills-more-than-cocaine-and-heroin/

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 1 month ago

These are the 'good' drugs, am I right? Legal and all...

megarooski 3 years, 1 month ago

Who do you think you people are? Who are you to say that someone should die? You're NOT God. Obviously these three people were given a second chance for a reason. What makes you get off on posting evil things about a situation that you know nothing about. You dont know, maybe something was slipped in their drinks without them knowing it. Think about it, it is pretty weird three passed out at the same time? Its no ones business but theirs. You all need to look at yourselves instead of judging others and assuming you know everything about everyones situation. No one is perfect and how dare you act like you are better than another. Just remember karmas a b*tch and what goes around comes around. I pray for all of you ignorant people!

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