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Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt joins effort to save Utah highway crosses

May 24, 2011

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— Kansas has joined 19 other states in asking the U.S. Supreme Court to hear a dispute over crosses along Utah highways honoring state troopers who died while on duty.

Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt says he joined the effort because he wants to protect the right of free expression on public land.

Fourteen crosses have been erected since 1998 by the Utah Highway Patrol Troopers Association, using private funds. Each 12-foot-high cross contains a biography of the trooper who died and the state patrol's logo.

An atheist group filed suit in 2005 over the crosses. A federal appeals court ruled last year in the group's favor, concluding the crosses were an unconstitutional government endorsement of religion. Utah then appealed.

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Paul R Getto 2 years, 10 months ago

witchfindergeneral (anonymous) says… "An unfortunate ruling--Utah obviously just wanted to remind drivers of a common execution device used throughout the Roman Empire. I see nothing wrong with the public display of historical instruments of torture and/or death. === Good point, The Romans were good at this (see Monty Python) and maybe we should honor their execution methods. A 'christ' was killed each spring to make the crops grow. One year, they stole the body of a great ESSENE teacher, got some policital backing and money after a few generations and the rest, as they say, is 'history.'

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 10 months ago

I thought the AG was Kris Kobach. O wait....

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witchfindergeneral 2 years, 10 months ago

"A federal appeals court ruled last year in the group's favor, concluding the crosses were an unconstitutional government endorsement of religion."

An unfortunate ruling--Utah obviously just wanted to remind drivers of a common execution device used throughout the Roman Empire. I see nothing wrong with the public display of historical instruments of torture and/or death.

Maybe here in Kansas we can put up a few guillotines along I-70!

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hujiko 2 years, 10 months ago

The whole video is golden, but the portion most applicable to this story begins at 2:40

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dontcallmedan 2 years, 10 months ago

Look out--the Church of Fred may want sings on the highway next.

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Bossa_Nova 2 years, 10 months ago

i'm not a christian, but if the troopers who were killed were christians then perhaps they would appreciate the monuments in their honor

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jimmyjms 2 years, 10 months ago

We traded Steve Six for this jackwagon?

Way to go, Kansas.

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Ron Holzwarth 2 years, 10 months ago

Next thing you know, it will be illegal for a church to display a cross because it will be visible from the street, which is public property.

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storm 2 years, 10 months ago

Silly agnostics and atheists, crosses keep vampires away. A good christian never displays a cross.

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autie 2 years, 10 months ago

Grandstanding for recognition. same deal as joining the anti Affordable Health Care suit. All to get our name in the paper. Posturing? Probably.

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Brock Masters 2 years, 10 months ago

I am a Christian, but think the federal appeals court got it right. Setting aside the religion aspect, public land should not be permanently altered by any individual or group. Erecting permanent crosses on public land alters the landscape and changes its use for others, ergo, it is wrong.

On the religious issue, I beleive that there is no separation of church and state, that the law only precludes the establishment of a religion. Thus, if the state was open to allowing any and all relgious groups to erect structures then it would be one thing, but I doubt that is the case. So, by selectively allowing a Christian structure, the state is by default establishing or at least showing favor to one religion and should be prohibited from doing so.

If it was a Jewish or Muslim group wanting to erect structures then you can be sure that our AG wouldn't be joining the fight so one must conclude he is joining it not because of the legal issues, but the religous and political ones. Bad reason to join in.

The federal appeals court got it right.

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Soapbox 2 years, 10 months ago

Be careful, Utah, 95% Mormons, don't think of Christ in any sense of the way that 95% of Christians do. Mormons are not followers of Christ. They believe each of them will become Gods at death, unless you are female and then good luck!

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Paul R Getto 2 years, 10 months ago

What if the deceased is a Wiccan? Can we put up a statute of the Wicked Witch of the West? Another magic-related nonissue for both sides. Let's get down to business. We should have outgrown these superstitions long ago. When you are dead you rot....worm food, nothing more; nothing less. The R's specialize in worrying about folks before they are born and after they turn into fertilizer. Can we pay attention to those actually here?

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johnnymercer 2 years, 10 months ago

Right, because I'm sure the AG is wasting all kinds of taxpayer dollars throwing a name onto a petition. The man sees something he believes is wrong, knows that the majority of his represented constituents would feel the same way, and stands up for something. Oooo, so diabolically political!

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Bob Forer 2 years, 10 months ago

Derek, don't we have enough problems in Kansas to deal with? Or are you simply planning your next run for even higher office? .

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